Thread: Disciples Cross, why I wouldn't recommend them

I purchased the starter kit from Disciple's Cross after reading about them on several websites. The general consensus was that the nails were easy to bend and the necklaces weren't too terribly difficult to make. Most people claimed that they were able to make money making the necklaces. However, those making decent money weren't actually selling the necklaces back to Disciple's Cross but instead selling them locally (which Disciple's Cross allows you to do). Now, if you have a market for that kind of thing in your area then I guess it might be a reasonable choice, however only because you can purchase pre-bent nails. If you sign up with Disciple's Cross and are hoping to sell the necklaces back to them, be prepared for a tough road. The nails are NOT easy to bend. I have carpal tunnel in both my wrists and could not get the nails to bend correctly. The instructional video that came along with the kit was confusing at times, he'd skip entire steps and you'd go from having several pieces laid out in front of you to the pieces suddenly put together with very little to no explanation.

At the end of the day, I wouldn't really recommend them. I still plan on trying out one of the kits from New England Crafters to see if that's any easier and if they do pay.

Is this the web site, Lisa?

Ya it is... I should probably start posting that huh? Lol sorry.

Well, since I'm not a Christian or interested in crafts, I probably have no business responding, but that top banner leaves me... speechless.

Lol, I'm agnostic. I wasn't trying to glorify Christ by making necklaces, I was trying to see if it was a real way to make a few dollars.

I am into crafting a bit. I'm not nearly as hardcore as some people, but I don't mind making the occasional little things for around the house. I loooove to scrapbook though.

If you're looking for craft assembly companies Lisa, New England Crafters and The Ideal Craft Company in Michigen Ideal Craft Home Page seem to be the most reputable. Home craft assembly is also a pretty scammy industry, as I'm sure you know.

Wow did the Disciples Cross site look yucky lol (I'm not calling them a scam)

If you feel brave enough to find your own markets, you'll find a heap of craft kits on the Craft Site Directory web, Craft Site Directory - Your guide to arts and crafts on the Internet

Wow did the Disciples Cross site look yucky lol

Since Lisa was discussing nails, the word that came to my mind was tacky.

Grrrrrrrrrrrr. lol

Originally Posted by alasycia

If you're looking for craft assembly companies Lisa, New England Crafters and The Ideal Craft Company in Michigen Ideal Craft Home Page seem to be the most reputable. Home craft assembly is also a pretty scammy industry, as I'm sure you know.

Wow did the Disciples Cross site look yucky lol (I'm not calling them a scam)

If you feel brave enough to find your own markets, you'll find a heap of craft kits on the Craft Site Directory web, Craft Site Directory - Your guide to arts and crafts on the Internet

I'm not brave enough to find my own markets lol. I've never heard of The Ideal Craft Company, but I like their prices. They seem to be a bit cheaper than New England Crafters.

I've done a few different work at home things (kgb, OnPoint Advocacy, Associated Content and I'm currently trying out emergingcast.com as well as a webcam model recruiting thing - I know the model one pays).

Grrrrrrrrrrrr. lol

Sorry, but I spent a little time at the JREF forums, where puns were a staple of many threads--whether you wanted to hammer in a point or not.

Originally Posted by Emet

Sorry, but I spent a little time at the JREF forums, where puns were a staple of many threads--whether you wanted to hammer in a point or not.

Aaaaaggghh

Found this link on the 2 Work-at-home forum. They ran a test, buying a kit, making the crosses and then selling them back to the company and here is the conclusion

The Bottom Line

I feel that while this is not an outright scam, the company's advertising is very misleading. They lure you in with the idea that you can make the crosses, send them in and get paid.

Let's take another look at the ad:

Make Disciple's Crosses™
Work from home. Make up to $2000
a month. No Selling Required!

It becomes clear later (after your crosses have been rejected) that the company really only wants to sell the kits. They actually encourage you to sell the crosses on your own. So, in reality it's all about selling.

If you're interested in starting a business where you're making the crosses and then you sell them at craft fairs, etc. then it may be a way to make some extra money. I think that until you got really good at making the crosses though, it would hardly be worth the time and effort it would take.

Personally, I find it reprehensible that someone who is supposed to be a "man of God" is operating in this underhanded way to make money. Did I mention that he was on Survivor? I guess that explains the autographed picture that is included with the starter kit...

Remember in the FAQ's at the website he says, "This is much more than a business to us, it is first and foremost a ministry." I don't see it that way. He's out to make money, period.

To follow the whole test click on the link

The Work At Home Reporter :: Unbiased work at home reviews

There are some pretty unhappy bunnies writing on RipOff Report as well

Disciples Cross - John Raymond Review | Rip-off Report #149992

And it seems that John Raymond has the set up registered as a non-profit!

And you said you shouldnt have posted this thread Lisa? Looks like you might already have saved a few people a few dollars.

John Raymond was on Survivor? I consider myself a hard core Survivor fan and couldn't for the life me remember that. So turned to my friend Google.. and sure enough!. I can be forgiven for not remembering him. He was on Survivor Thailand back in 2002 and was the first one voted off LOL