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    Rex Venture Group and Zeekler / ZeekRewards takedown of critic's article about ZeekRewards

    Looks like Zeek wants to play hardball. My hub was hit with a takedown notice.

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    Play hardball ????

    HotDamn it's tempting.
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    KS, let us know if there's anything we can do to help.

    Updates from the pep rally:

    Im excited
    BEVERLY MARIE TOLER 1 day ago
    Atmosphere at the Red Carpet Event




    Thank you Zeek for the Red Carpet event today in Clemmons, NC! Meeting is now in process. The room is packed. The audience is filled with excitement and anticipation. The event is being professionally recorded for Zeek.
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    • BEVERLY MARIE TOLER 13 hours ago
      Ok, so I finally got home. My trip one way was about 2 1/4 hours. I drove up yesterday. Stayed overnight at the Super 8 next door to the Village Inn where the event was hosted. Many other people traveled from much farther away. The farthest was India. Then we also had several from Canada and the rest from the US mainly.

      We heard from several corporate members on the origin of the company, how it has grown and what measures are being activated to help build and sustain the growth.

      First, most companies spend anywhere from 30 to 40 MILLION dollars on advertising. Often, they pay this amount to other companies to handle the advertising. Zeek decided to give this back to the people. So, instead of hiring an advertising company they are sharing company profits with us to advertise them instead.

      What that means for us is that we are acting as that firm collectively by our own individual efforts. As Zeek grows so do we. And the growth has been phenomenal!

      Zeek went from a handful of core employees to several hundred! And they are still hiring more staff due to the stupendous results of everyones efforts in bringing in more customers and affiliates.

      There are Zeek employees working 80 hour work week to assist us. There is also a new affiliate servies center that has been established in a private location.

      The next Red Carpet event will be on Aug 22, 2012 at the same location in Clemmons, NC. Tickets go on sale Aug 1st for this event.

      There is a National event for Zeek being held in Nashville, TN on November 8-11, 2012.

      Please, please, please, take the time to listen to training calls and support calls live or listen to the recordings to keep up with Zeek. Affiliate services is ONLY for account issues! So whoever sent 22 tickets and whoever sent 55 tickets (you know who you are), you only delay getting help yourself and you delay others getting the help they need.

      Age requirements: You must be at least 18 years of age to join. The ONLY exception is where your parents have set up a company and you are an employee of their company (13-17).

      DO NOT contact corporate for tax advice! Why? Because each person has a different set of circumstances and Zeek is not a licensed tax preparer. Please, DO contact your own personal tax preparer for assistance with your tax needs. Thank you.

      DO use the training videos. Why? Because there is an average of 400 to 600 % increase in sales when you use these. We will be receiving a few new ones to target women raising families. This is especially targeting the 18-44 year old women market.

      Zeek will be coming out with it's own debit card!!!! Yay! Zeek also has plans to add an ACH option soon. Better payout options expected in about 30 days.

      There will now be a new Zeek drop box to purchase sample bids from the physical corporation. One reason is to even out the odds. Not everyone lives close enough to just stop in. Another reason is to avoid accidents caused when drivers get distracted trying to figure out why there are 400 to 600 people lined up outside the building. Also, then the staff hired to answer phones will have the opportunity to do so. Right now that time is being taken up by all those who want to stop by the office with their payments trying to jump ahead of the sample bid purchases made through the mail.

      Matrix commissions: Free and opt outs are removed and not counted during commission runs even though they may still be showing up in your back office. Building up paying customers and affiliates provides longterm sustainable income.

      Note: You have the option to add your own products to sell on Freestoreclub at the diamond level. Not just the products shown originally on the website. You can also customize the look and feel of the website to better suit your tastes.

      Meeting with potential new affiliates: you may ONLY meet with 1 (one) person in public, such as at a restaraunt, to discuss Zeek. However, if you decide to invite your family and friends over for a meal and Zeek happens to get mentioned that is ok. The reason: it is a private family gathering. If you have more than one person in public then corporate must be present. Period! No exceptions.

      Zeek now has a new 10 story building (with all the growth let's see how long that is sufficient....lol). Won't that be awesome! So keep busy! Let's give them a reason to expand and buy more buildings to serve us better! Thanks Zeek! Remember, Zeek is a debt free company!

      Ok, I have much more but I am very tired from the drive. I will try to post PART TWO of my notes tomorrow.

      But for now, Thank you all, each and every one of you, for being here and for taking the time to read this. PS. By the time you read part two tomorrow I hope you have already found out something new Zeek gave us to advertise the business in person. If not, stay tuned.

      Thank you ZEEK! Thank you Paul and Dawn and Peter and.... the list goes on... Thank you!



    So your prophets of finance have fallen on their collective proverbial face, and you hear muffled voices calling: Welcome to the human race.
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    Open up your heart...

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    Some guy with a Gmail address, claiming to be from Rex Venture Group, wants to discuss what I wrote about what companies are "associated" with Zeek

    Robert Craddock (________@gmail.com)
    To (________@hotmail.com)

    I'm following up about the content you published on HubPages, regarding Zeek Rewards and companies connected with or believed to be connected with.

    If you would respond with a number so I can discuss this matter with you

    Sincerely

    Robert Craddock
    Rex Venture Group LLC
    And my reply:

    Mr. Craddock,

    Care to provide your bonafides first? I'm not releasing my phone number to anyone over the Internet
    just because they *claim* to be from a particular business. Not to mention you're using a free webmail
    address same as I am, one that never appeared on Google, and your name is not listed among Zeek
    employees or RVG that I can see.

    If you believe I have made a factual mistake in my hub, you are welcome to provide the proper facts,
    and I'll gladly update them and analyze those facts.

    As you have responded promptly, I believe you should have no problem in providing me with a list of
    content RVG seem to have a problem with, within say, 48 hours. As this is over the weekend, I expect
    to see a list by coming Monday by noon.

    If I do not see one, I will then assume that you have no real objections to my hub, and request that
    it be republished as soon as possible.

    And this entire conversation via e-mail will be added to the hub itself, of course. (with addresses
    redacted, if you wish)

    KsChang

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    Re: Zeek Rewards !! How to get to $3K a month, starting as a free member !

    Quote Originally Posted by kschang View Post
    Some guy with a Gmail address, claiming to be from Rex Venture Group, wants to discuss what I wrote about what companies are "associated" with Zeek



    And my reply:
    Good for you and I hope your Hub is back up soon.

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    here's the complaint they sent to Hubpages:

    They're claiming "fair use" is copyright infringement, they claimed a section is wrong without offering corrections, and a mistake they themselves admitted committing is tortuous and libel.

    https://anonfiles.com/file/ff8995fb3...5c057dbaa8f02c

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    Craddock just wrote back... STILL can't prove he actually works for RVG

    I can understand that I'm not listed in the RVG pages, but I'm a consultant for Zeek and I'm the person that contacted Hub Pages. As I stated, I would welcome the opportunity to discuss the impact your posting has generated. As you are aware of, the posting is quite large and will take some time to go over the entire site but, if needed, I will start now and let you know in detail all our concerns. I do not expect to have it completed by Monday as Kevin Grimes, RVG corporate attorney will also want to weigh in on this discussion if that is what it takes to keep your posting from being re-published on Hub Pages or anywhere else, as we believe and know this story contains false information and is disruptive to our affiliates.

    if you desire is to post a story about Zeek I'm willing to go over it with you or I can just make notes that are of concern on your posting, as I saved it in a PDF and get it back to you. This way everyone should be happy, but again that will take longer than just this weekend.

    Please let me know how you would like to proceed as of now, this was a friendly request and no future action was planned.

    Robert Craddock

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    Quote Originally Posted by kschang View Post
    here's the complaint they sent to Hubpages:

    They're claiming "fair use" is copyright infringement, they claimed a section is wrong without offering corrections, and a mistake they themselves admitted committing is tortuous and libel.

    https://anonfiles.com/file/ff8995fb3...5c057dbaa8f02c
    Errr, I presume he meant tortious, not "tortuous". I tend to get suspicious of people trying to exert legal pressure when they cannot spell the term they are using. You also apparently have another fellow that is assuming that opinion is actionable.
    It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!

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    Seems to me that you should request that "Robert Craddock" take the items line by line an point out the exact inaccuracy and supply the correct information. I notice he sidestepped the suggestion that he identify himself...!
    It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!

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    That typo may be me. I'll check the spelling again. :)

    I checked Craddock's mail header. The email was sent from VIRGINIA, not North Carolina (where Zeek is).

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    KS, don't give them your direct contact information. They don't have a legitimate case but nuisance lawsuits cost money to defend too, that might be their goal. Make them go through the relatively spineless Hub Pages people to get personally identifiable information and if they do, the could be co defendants in any counter suit you file. This has the makings of a classic SLAPP action, they just want you to shut up. The only thing to offer them is an invitation to post their own comments to what ever blog format you set up next (assuming Hub Pages wont spontaneously generate a spine).


    And an update on the Red Carpet event:

    I’m confident and thankful.

    BEVERLY MARIE TOLER 1 hour ago
    Ok, here comes PART TWO.

    First, only mom ever called me Beverly Marie and that is when I was in trouble....lol. So Bev or Beverly is fine.

    Second, the pic of my kitty was taken last year. He and his sister Mona just turned a year old on June 30th. His name is Mosby and he is huge. His sister, on the other hand is a calico (multi-colored) and very petite.

    Third, the second part of my notes from yesterday's Red Carpet event.

    There is a special team that meets to discuss the business. It is called Leadership Team X. This team contains some corporate and also some who are leaders in building Zeek. If you have a huge organization under you already and wish to be considered for this counsel contact Anthony at dawn@zeeklers.com Do NOT send any other requests to this email. Do not send requests to join the council if you only have a small handful of people or are trying to learn how to build your business. That is the purpose of the training calls and the back office along with all the training videos.

    The YGPTA videos: in order to not "kill the little guy" a provision will be made for those who live in poorer countries who cannot afford to buy this now. The $29+ YEARLY fee is to cover the bandwidth and expenses necessary to keep this accessible to all of us. Normally, this would have cost $180 yearly for each of us if we purchased it on our own. This is a huge savings that was set up to benefit each of us in growing our Zeek customer and affiliate base.

    Also, the option to BUY from set aside funds is being reinstituted to make it easier for us to purchase this.

    For those who may wish to host webinars and the like, this will be made available in the future. They will have to be cleared through the home office FIRST.

    ADVERTISING! Please, please, make sure you are working within the compliance guidelines! The videos and materials that Zeek is providing us are already in compliance. So take the time to use what we already have. If you have some other marketing materials that you wish to use, video, written or otherwise: please contact corporate compliance department before using these to make sure they are compliant. If they need to be adjusted to meet compliance they will work with you on what can be done to ensure that it is.

    NEW MATTERS:

    Paul Burks revealed that Zeek has purchased another company. This company has a 50/50 ratio of customers/affiliates. He would not tell us yet which company yet. However, the 50/50 ratio is fantastic and bodes well for our company's future.

    New Zeek website: http://zeekprinting.com Now we can buy fully compliant business cards to advrtise Zeekler and also ZeekRewards. They are very cool! Please, grab you some and enjoy!

    OTHER MATTERS:

    To answer one of the questions posted earlier: missing payments is a matter that must be taken up with the AFFILIATE Services department to handle. As Zeek finishes training all the new staff they have hired in the past few weeks and months, the wait time on getting issues settled will be greatly reduced. Just as many of us have just come into Zeek and are under a huge learning curve, so are these new employees.

    I know that may not ease the frustration some of you have had but have you ever tried to run a company? This company literally exploded in growth from a couple hundred thousand affiliates to around 1 MILLION in a matter of a few short months! Can you imagine the infrastructure that they have had to build and the amount of time it takes to train the new staff? There are no "instant mashed potatoes" here now matter how hard it is for any of us to be patient.

    500 internal server errors and other website errors: a new member has very recently been added to the Zeek staff to tackle and fix any programming/website issues. If you presently are getting these 500 errors please, check your bank account or try logging into your back office first before resubmitting the payment. It is very possible it already went through and obviously you won't want 2 or 3 extra charges just because of not checking on it first.

    Languages:

    While it is true that there are many affiliates who use languages other than English, Zeek is an English company. Everything is provided in English. However, there are many online translators to assist those who need it.

    Payouts:

    Zeek pays in US dollars only. Everything Zeek pays out will always be paid in US dollars. There are other companies out there who convert money. It is up to the affiliate to care for conversion to their own currency.

    ZEEKLER

    The Zeekler website is getting redesigned. August 7th there will be some big ticket items added for auction. If there is anything you would like to see them add then post it on this website so that they can see what else can be added. There will be different items coming for the auctions plus the redesign of the website.

    CORPORATE

    We now have a CEO, COO, CFO, CTO, new acting COO, MD and shortly a new CMO. For those of you who don't know what that means: Paul Burks is our CEO (Chief Executive Officer). Dawn is presently COO (Chief Operations Officer) and will be moving to the new CMO (Chief Marketing Officer). Greg Caldwell is our new acting COO (Chief Operations Officer). Angie has become our CFO (Chief Financial Officer). Dr. Clifton Jolly will be our MD (Media Director). This only the short list of those in our corporate staff. We also have those in charge of marketing and compliance and those in affiliate services to mention a few.

    POLICIES AND PROCEDURES

    If you have not yet read the policies and procedures on Zeekrewards please, take the time to do so. This is exceptionally important for EVERY affiliate to do.

    IN CLOSING

    There was so much information from this meeting. I have tried to convey everything with accuracy and conciseness. If I see questions that I know the anwser to I will answer them for the benefit of everyone. My greatest wish is that you all remember that in ZEEK we are a family. We need to try our best to work together and get along. Help your fellow Zeeksters to progress in the company even if they are not in your downline. Spend time with the rest of your familiy at home and seek peace among each other. Because no matter what we make here financially we will always need each other on a daily basis. It is what enriches our lives and give them meaning.

    May the sun shine on each of you. May each of you have a peaceful day to enjoy and share!

    So your prophets of finance have fallen on their collective proverbial face, and you hear muffled voices calling: Welcome to the human race.
    You made a killing dealing real estate at NASA selling cemetery plots in outer space til some falling coffins crashed upon your doorstep: Welcome to the human race.

    Open up your heart...

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    KS, don't give them your direct contact information. They don't have a legitimate case but nuisance lawsuits cost money to defend too, that might be their goal. Make them go through the relatively spineless Hub Pages people to get personally identifiable information and if they do, the could be co defendants in any counter suit you file. This has the makings of a classic SLAPP action, they just want you to shut up. The only thing to offer them is an invitation to post their own comments to what ever blog format you set up next (assuming Hub Pages wont spontaneously generate a spine).
    An interesting section of the Wiki Link posted above:

    United States

    California has a unique variant of anti-SLAPP legislation which has led a significant volume of SLAPP litigation in that state. A search for reported cases on SLAPP litigation in 2009 found 1,386 cases for the State of California alone. The rest of the states combined had about 341, of which Massachusetts accounted for 176, raising the question whether California's SLAPP statute is accomplishing its primary objective of reducing costly litigation [6] The U.S. state of California enacted Code of Civil Procedure 425.16 in 1992, a statute intended to frustrate SLAPPs by providing a quick and inexpensive defense.[3] It provides for a special motion that a defendant can file at the outset of a lawsuit to strike a complaint when it arises from conduct that falls within the rights of petition or free speech. The statute expressly applies to any writing or speech made in connection with an issue under consideration or review by a legislative, executive, or judicial proceeding, or any other official proceeding authorized by law, but there is no requirement that the writing or speech be promulgated directly to the official body. It also applies to speech in a public forum about an issue of public interest and to any other petition or speech conduct about an issue of public interest.
    To win an anti-SLAPP motion, the defendant must first show that the lawsuit is based on constitutionally protected activity. Then, the burden shifts to the plaintiff, to affirmatively present evidence to show that they have a reasonable probability of prevailing on the action. The filing of an anti-SLAPP motion stays all discovery. This feature acts to greatly reduce the cost of litigation to the anti-SLAPP defendant, and can make beating the motion extremely difficult for the plaintiff, because they effectively must prove their case without the benefit of discovery.
    If the special motion is denied, the order denying the motion is immediately appealable. Defendants prevailing on an anti-SLAPP motion (including any subsequent appeal) are entitled to a mandatory award of reasonable attorney’s fees. After an anti-SLAPP motion has been filed, a plaintiff cannot escape this mandatory fee award by amending its complaint. More than 300 published court opinions have interpreted and applied California's anti-SLAPP law. [7]
    California's Code of Civil Procedure 425.17 corrects what the Legislature found to be abuse of the anti-SLAPP statute. [8] Signed into law on September 6, 2003, this statute prohibits anti-SLAPP motions in response to certain public interest lawsuits and class actions, and actions that arise from commercial statements or conduct. Section 425.18, signed into law on October 6, 2005, was enacted to facilitate SLAPP victims in recovering their damages through a SLAPPback (malicious prosecution action) against the SLAPP filers and their attorneys after the underlying SLAPP has been dismissed. [9]
    Frisco, isn't it? (don't answer that) ;)


    Late edit to add:

    I started a thread for our friends over at Quatloos about Zeek Rewards and Internet Censorship. I have some rather pressing RL commitments at the moment so if I got any details wrong or if any questions are asked requiring some follow up, please feel free to step up.
    So your prophets of finance have fallen on their collective proverbial face, and you hear muffled voices calling: Welcome to the human race.
    You made a killing dealing real estate at NASA selling cemetery plots in outer space til some falling coffins crashed upon your doorstep: Welcome to the human race.

    Open up your heart...

    Welcome to RealScam.com.

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    Don't worry, I'm only giving them an e-mail address that I've been using for many years, but have no current info attached to it. It may get them closer, but not directly to me.

    The conversation is turning to be bizarre. This guy repeated claimed to be a consultant, but does not appear in any RVG or Zeek webpages. He also posts from Hearndon Virginia, not anywhere near Lexington NC Zeek hails from. When I asked him for employment contract, or a letter from Paul or Dawn, he simply hinted at "all legal avenues".

    he had even CC'ed Hubpages with all the mails. We'll see how Hubpages responds.

    EFF has promised me a referral to a lawyer for some pro bono work, if one's available, and if it comes to that.

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    Keep an eye on that Quatloos link I posted. Sometimes it's a little difficult to predict what topics will attract much interest over there but this one stands a chance. I need to be clear that nothing over there will in any way be "legal advice" but a significant number of the people who post there have opinions and are in the legal profession. And if nothing else we're giving much needed publicity to the strong arm tactics Zeek Rewards and Rex Ventures Group seem to be implying they'll apply to you. They will be made to understand that they can't try to silence a determined and intelligent critic without amplifying that persons message in the process.
    So your prophets of finance have fallen on their collective proverbial face, and you hear muffled voices calling: Welcome to the human race.
    You made a killing dealing real estate at NASA selling cemetery plots in outer space til some falling coffins crashed upon your doorstep: Welcome to the human race.

    Open up your heart...

    Welcome to RealScam.com.

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    Just for fun, I forwarded the file and the e-mail exchange to Troy Dooly. ;)

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    Troy Dooly got back to me: apparently RVG does have a Mr. Craddock as an independent consultant. However, it's not clear whether he has the power to issue takedown notices.

    Troy had forwarded the takedown notice to the COO and we'll see how THEY deal with this can of worms.

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    Putting the legal ramifications aside for one moment, does anyone REALLY believe Zeek Rewards and/or Paul Burks wants to intentionally bring itself into public scrutiny ???

    Hypothetically, of course, just how long could a company offering 1 or 2% per DAY survive being outed in the mainstream media ??

    IM(very)HO, the fraudsters behind Zeek must be choking on their Cornflakes at the possibility this not-so-subtle attempt at silencing criticism becomes mainstream or gets picked up by search spiders.
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    FWIW, there's a top level shuffle at Zeek. Dawn moved over to CMO and they hired a new COO. This was at the Red Carpet Event.

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    I think we should get Okosh to frame a betting market offering odds on what, if any of this Zeek stuff in any way resembles the truth.

    IM(very)HO, all this CEO, CFO, COO nonsense will turn out to be just that, Nonsense with a capital B/S.

    There's a handful of people on the inside and a squillion shills on the outside.

    Substitute "Andy Bowdoin" for "Paul Burks" and "AdSurf Daily" with "Zeek Rewards" and what practical difference is there ??
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    Re: Zeek Rewards !! How to get to $3K a month, starting as a free member !

    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post
    Putting the legal ramifications aside for one moment, does anyone REALLY believe Zeek Rewards and/or Paul Burks wants to intentionally bring itself into public scrutiny ???

    Hypothetically, of course, just how long could a company offering 1 or 2% per DAY survive being outed in the mainstream media ??

    IM(very)HO, the fraudsters behind Zeek must be choking on their Cornflakes at the possibility this not-so-subtle attempt at silencing criticism becomes mainstream or gets picked up by search spiders.
    If they don't want Zeek to be in the glare of investigators doing DD on it, they could ask Scamlanders to stop advertising it. When it is quite openly advertised by Mary Evelyn Simpson (Scamland's Pillager of The Year) it is as good as painting Investigat me on your tee shirt. I will have to try and make a list of people in Scaamland going mad advertising Zeek in all their most suspect Biz-Opps forums.

    Mary Evelyn Simpson's Zeek Rewards Advertisemnts. Scroll down the page to see Mary Evelyn's sig files with Zeel and other dubious opportunities.

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    Zeek is now between the rock and the hard place that which every one of these "next big thing" HYIPs eventually arrives.

    They CANNOT afford to get into the mainstream media and MUST remain under the radar of the regulatory authorities.

    Even the most reluctant investigator will be forced to act should questions begin being asked outside of the usual suspect HYIP areas and forums.

    On the other hand, there are a great many "true believers" who fully expect Zeek to react like any legitimate business would do when facing the kind of accusations Paul Burks and Zeek are so desperately attempting to stifle.

    Put simply, all Burks and Zeek can do is threaten.

    They simply CANNOT afford to have this progress past threatening letters from lawyers and/or takedown of some blogs.

    Stop and consider for one minute the ramifications of Zeek and/or Burks and/or their legal representative having to:

    * Sue across borders AND international borders
    * Prove IN COURT how it is possible to offer 2% per day WITHOUT being a ponzi.
    * Prove every single "fact" he and they have published is true and accurate, Oh, and that would be in front of the entire media and 'net world as well as a judge. Because, rest assured, there wouldn't be a media organization, blogger or anti HYIP ponzi forum which wouldn't have been made aware of what Burks, Zeek and their "legal representatives" are attempting to do.

    I've said before, this is not TV.

    The law may well be an ass at times, but it is NOT as easy to manipulate as outright internet criminals and bullies like Burks and Zeek.

    One step into the public arena and Zeek is as good as dead and Burks may as well reserve the cell next to Bowdoin.
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    Re: Zeek Rewards !! How to get to $3K a month, starting as a free member !

    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post
    Putting the legal ramifications aside for one moment, does anyone REALLY believe Zeek Rewards and/or Paul Burks wants to intentionally bring itself into public scrutiny ???

    Hypothetically, of course, just how long could a company offering 1 or 2% per DAY survive being outed in the mainstream media ??

    IM(very)HO, the fraudsters behind Zeek must be choking on their Cornflakes at the possibility this not-so-subtle attempt at silencing criticism becomes mainstream or gets picked up by search spiders.
    I'm inclined to agree but this presupposes that ZR will or can think rationally about this. The greatest likelihood is that they already have most of what they wanted, Kasey's Hub Page is down and now all they want is to intimidate him into not getting it back up. The question becomes what (if anything) will they do when those pages do go back online? (Hell, we'll post them here if no better option presents)

    That's when things get a bit dicey. IF they are smart ZR will do nothing, they stand to lose a lot more than they have to gain. At best they can nit pick at a few minor errors but in doing so they'll highlight the oh so many damaging facts that Kasey documented accurately.

    The problem being that (for the moment) ZR has a lot of their affiliates money and might believe their own lies. If this situation escalates past the e-mail pissing match phase I'd invite Mr. Change to read the following link from the California Anti-Slapp Project's website.
    So your prophets of finance have fallen on their collective proverbial face, and you hear muffled voices calling: Welcome to the human race.
    You made a killing dealing real estate at NASA selling cemetery plots in outer space til some falling coffins crashed upon your doorstep: Welcome to the human race.

    Open up your heart...

    Welcome to RealScam.com.

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    Considering none of it is a 'business', I agree

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    Re: Zeek Rewards !! How to get to $3K a month, starting as a free member !

    Quote Originally Posted by Glimdropper
    I'm inclined to agree but this presupposes that ZR will or can think rationally about this.
    IM(very)HO, it doesn't matter WHAT Zeek thinks or does.

    The very worst they can do is have Kaseys' blog taken offline temporarily.

    A lawyers' letter is just that, a letter. In practical terms it means nothing.

    HOWEVER, I can guarantee you that 5 minutes after Zeek does ANYTHING untoward it will be spread so far over the internet both Zeek and Burks will be pulling out barbs from their as**s for years to come.

    In fact, it's probably the best thing that could happen in terms of outcomes for those who despise fraud.

    Think Bowdoins' empty threats, think Salty Droids' exposure of Steven Pierces' posturing, thinkCharles Gregoire de Rothschilds' threatened actions, think Property Wikias' successes at intimidating other forums, but it's total lack of success with attempting the same tactics on REALSCAM.com

    It simply CANNOT proceed past bullying, AND, whatever happens it will be carried out in full, SEO enhanced public view.

    Is Mr Burks REALLY stupid enough to let that happen ???

    Likewise for his "crack legal team"
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    Re: Zeek Rewards !! How to get to $3K a month, starting as a free member !

    Technically it's not even from a lawyer, but a consultant working for RVG.

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