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    www.estorebuilder.com genuine?

    i came across this website eStoreBuilder which lets you setup your online diet supplements estore. all you have to do is subscribe to them by paying 15$...i havnt found anything against it on the internet yet but am still wondering if its real.
    I live india and they say its available here now..

    Please advice
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    Re: www.estorebuilder.com genuine?

    Quote Originally Posted by sambhide View Post
    i came across this website eStoreBuilder which lets you setup your online diet supplements estore. all you have to do is subscribe to them by paying 15$...i havnt found anything against it on the internet yet but am still wondering if its real.
    I live india and they say its available here now..

    Please advice
    Thankyou
    If ou are going to sell suplements, you will have some intense price competition with Vitacost, Puritans Pride, and a host of other sites that will sell products that compete with Slimming.com products but probably a lot cheaper.
    It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!

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    Re: www.estorebuilder.com genuine?

    Quote Originally Posted by sambhide View Post
    i came across this website eStoreBuilder which lets you setup your online diet supplements estore. all you have to do is subscribe to them by paying 15$...i havnt found anything against it on the internet yet but am still wondering if its real.
    I live india and they say its available here now..

    Please advice
    Thankyou
    Was this promoted to you after signing up with the Automated Paydays system?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustTooMuchTime View Post
    Was this promoted to you after signing up with the Automated Paydays system?
    I also noticed this. Traffic to eStoreBuilder spiked 100 fold just in May when they started bundling with Automated Paydays system scam. While I can not find anything bad about it either, assosiation with scam and sharp changes in traffic says it is not worth the risk. I also do not see prices you are going to pay to buy supplements. Without seeing them and be able to compare those costs with prices in other online stores, there is no way to figure out if you ever be able to make a profit.

    I read many times when I was on scam.com from people who where in legitimate affiliate market that buying turn key solution websites is the worst idea. You have no control over website. You are forced to sell what they want you to sell. You can not put on stuff from other suppliers. I bet only minimal customization is possible. Just a crappy deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fromthehood View Post
    I also noticed this. Traffic to eStoreBuilder spiked 100 fold just in May when they started bundling with Automated Paydays system scam. While I can not find anything bad about it either, assosiation with scam and sharp changes in traffic says it is not worth the risk. I also do not see prices you are going to pay to buy supplements. Without seeing them and be able to compare those costs with prices in other online stores, there is no way to figure out if you ever be able to make a profit.

    I read many times when I was on scam.com from people who where in legitimate affiliate market that buying turn key solution websites is the worst idea. You have no control over website. You are forced to sell what they want you to sell. You can not put on stuff from other suppliers. I bet only minimal customization is possible. Just a crappy deal.
    DO NOT waste your time and money on this crap site..!! this is all nonsense. I myself have registered on this web site 2 weeks back. They do not even reply to your email after you pay them the amount. The Website they create for you is a bullshit web site having just a single Webpage will only 4-5 product info.
    The Account number u want to add to receive the payment, never gets added. This is real scam web site... BEWARE..!!

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    Re: www.estorebuilder.com genuine?

    Quote Originally Posted by sambhide View Post
    i came across this website eStoreBuilder which lets you setup your online diet supplements estore. all you have to do is subscribe to them by paying 15$...i havnt found anything against it on the internet yet but am still wondering if its real.
    I live india and they say its available here now..

    Please advice
    Thankyou
    The "absence" of complaints while better than tons of complaints certainly does not mean it is legitimate. There are plenty of tricks companies can use to bury complaints, but beyond that my first question always would be "what do they need me for"? Ok they have the greatest vitamin in the world, cures cancer, toe jam, impotence, makes you lose weight, and only need 3 hours sleep per week. Why would they not just set up a website and sell the thing and keep 100% of the profits? Second to that, why would they not hire professional sales people and keep 80% of the profits? Contrary to the popular talking points, "affiliate type marketing" is one of the least effective, most expensive ways to distribute a product. The goal in almost all cases is for the promoters to earn from distributor fees and excessive mark-ups.

    I see no reason they need you other than the money that is now in your pocket, but if you have some marketing or computer skills that you have not mentioned that would be relevant.

    Don Lapre was somewhat of a scam celebrity, his last big hurrah was the Greatest Vitamin in the World, it ended in a jail cell, and badly at that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ribshaw View Post
    Contrary to the popular talking points, "affiliate type marketing" is one of the least effective, most expensive ways to distribute a product. The goal in almost all cases is for the promoters to earn from distributor fees and excessive mark-ups.
    I know only one exception to this statement. If you have very popular niche website with a devoted audience, you can be very successful. For example, movie/comics news websites often do affiliate ads for amazon.com. Probably there are some other niche website that do the same business with Amazon. But go into affiliate advertising with cookie cutter website is insane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fromthehood View Post
    I know only one exception to this statement. If you have very popular niche website with a devoted audience, you can be very successful. For example, movie/comics news websites often do affiliate ads for amazon.com. Probably there are some other niche website that do the same business with Amazon. But go into affiliate advertising with cookie cutter website is insane.
    I agree, and had lumped "affiliate marketing" in with any recruit and sell and recruit type plan. Almost any of these deals you could make extra money if you had some sort of natural market. With vitamins you could do that as an add on if you had a health type website or something similar. Or as you say something with a link to Amazon, if for no other reason than there is a huge brand recognition and trust level built in.

    Though the question lingers in my mind about where the bulk of the money is truly made, is it in actually being an affiliate marketer or in selling programs to affiliate marketers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ribshaw View Post

    Though the question lingers in my mind about where the bulk of the money is truly made, is it in actually being an affiliate marketer or in selling programs to affiliate marketers?
    Since english is not by first language, does your question goes under "snide remark"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fromthehood View Post
    Since english is not by first language, does your question goes under "snide remark"?
    No, not at all was being serious. For instance, I had bought a book from Joe Vitale, think it was this one. The E-Code: 33 Internet Superstars Reveal 43 Ways to Make Money Online Almost Instantly--Using Only E-Mail!: Joe Vitale, Jo Han Mok: 9780471718550: Amazon.com: Books

    Now I feel pretty comfortable that Joe Vitale makes a lot more more money selling his books and tapes than he does from internet marketing. But on the other side of the coin and I ask this from a business interest standpoint not to cast stones. There are also smaller players who both market and sell programs on how to market, so at the end of the year, if you added up the P&L where would the bulk of it come from?

    I would suspect the education revenues to actual earning ratios would be fairly similar in many industries.
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    Re: www.estorebuilder.com genuine?

    Quote Originally Posted by sambhide View Post
    i came across this website eStoreBuilder which lets you setup your online diet supplements estore. all you have to do is subscribe to them by paying 15$...i havnt found anything against it on the internet yet but am still wondering if its real.
    I live india and they say its available here now..

    Please advice
    Thankyou
    My advice it is one of internet scam. Please do not fall for it. Let alone make money. You cannot even login, I keep on sending mails regarding this but they are not responding, so please be aware of those guys. estrorebuilder

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    Re: www.estorebuilder.com genuine?

    Hello,
    I signed up to estorebuilder.com and like other people have said, you pay a small fee at first and then pay more. I was stupid and paid even more for a 'pro' website and extra support. It didnt take me long to realise that this was a scam. There is never any online support or even a contact telephone number. Due to their 30 day money back guarantee I thought I was perfectly within my rights to ask for a refund. I paid them just under 150 and they will not give me my money back. My advise is steer well clear and tell everyone else to do the same. Does anyone know where I can report this to and try to get help with getting my money back?

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    Hiya, Shelly and welcome to REALSCAM.com

    You have taken the first step by making your complaint public.

    Let's see with whom you're dealing, shall we ??

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    Slimming.com, Eh ???

    Here's the Slimming.com website



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    Is it scam or not?

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    I would advise caution on two scores.

    The market is saturated in the UK. Dietary supplements are sold in almost every chemist and there are long established health food stores like Holland and Barrett that sell a huge variety. The products are far cheaper than anything that is being sold online

    You often need to give people advice when you are selling these types of products. Not everybody who contacts you has asked his or her doctor, if it is wise to take them with their prescribed medication. Sales staff in any chemist can refer to a qualified pharmacist, if they have any doubts and the managers of large health food stores have been properly trained.

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