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    Quote Originally Posted by laidback View Post
    Since many of these scam operators pick names out of a hat, are you positive that this "Roman Novak" is the same one your mother knew? Also given that many of these scams are perpetrated by "older" folks, if he is the same person, is he still honest today? Something to think about...!
    I am 110 procent positive he is the same person because at the point she told me that she knewed a Roman Novak she also told me
    his brother was a lawyer or something, i DIDN'T knew that at that point, a day later i readed that on his website from profitable sunrise so i knew it was this Roman Novak she talked about! i am 110 procent sure!! I am not lying.. A friend of my mother who was in the same business and lives 3 miles from me also had some dinners at restaurant with him..this guy is real, more i cannot say. If he is still honest? i know he even helped a friend in troubles with money..at that point i was a young guy (age 11 i guess) Thats all i know, i don't know if he's changed, that i cannot say, what i believe he is a bussinessmen who does what he says, don't shoot me if this isn't! It's all at your risk, i am now 2 months on profitable and i can withdraw my interests whenever i want, a friend of my has putted a number on it that i don't even dare to share here, but he withdraws his interests with ease..no problems at all. And if the administrator still thinks he is not real, he should know that when he puts 50K or more in it, he first have a personal meeting with Roman. (again sorry for the bad english :-) )

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    My apologies for starting a new thread on this subject. I had no idea the Zeek thing was about this. In fact, (hanging head in embarrassment) I don't even know what the Zeek thing is. It's going to take a while to catch up.

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    No problem at all klagoosh, some topics run off track and ever so very soon to be an un profitable sunrise is worthy of it's own thread. When I get a chance I'll copy some of the info here to your thread.

    colorz, forgive the lateness of my reply and welcome to RealScam. First off I'm not even sure that a person with a real legal name of "Roman Novak" has anything at all to do with the "Profitable Sunrise" (PS) program and I'll tell you why. PS is not a real company, they don't make loans and they don't share the profit from those loans with their investors. PS is a run of the mill "High Yield Investment program" ponzi game that will last only as long as it attracts fresh investments faster than existing investors ask for their money back.

    Think about it, the interest rates they claim to share with their investors are so high that the people supposedly taking out loans from them could save a lot of money by going to loansharks, the sort of people you get a loan from when you can't get money anywhere else knowing that they will break your legs if you don't pay them back on time. Yet for some reason PS charges more interest than the leg breakers?

    For the record I am in no way suggesting that PS does physical violence to any of the people who take out loans from them but rather I'm telling you that they aren't issuing loans to anyone. They take the money from one investor and give it to another investor (after keeping their cut) and when they run out of investors they'll close the website down and open another one doing the same thing.

    "Roman Novak" may be a peach of a person but if he's running Profitable Sunrise he's a money stealing HYIP thief.
    So your prophets of finance have fallen on their collective proverbial face, and you hear muffled voices calling: Welcome to the human race.
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    Hello glimdropper. Owkay, let's see what we have here..well..high interests, brake some legs..pompoppomm..thiefs..owkay, i got it. You have some serious points brought up here and all i can do is give you is all the credits for that. Yes its true that it's not because i know this guy is real everything he does is right or legal or whatever..i'm not the guy that takes your knowing in question BUT if all the so called hyip programs are ALL ponzi schemes and therefore all the administrators are all thiefs..what about the casinos then? You always loose in casinos..like i said a friend of mine makes a living of it and yes, he knows the risks..many people i think are making money with this and yes there are people losing some money too because they are too greedy..the administrators of this systems gives people the chance to gain some nice money, but you need to keep your head with it..like with everything in life..and YES, between this bunch of administrators will sit a lot of scum and scam..i agree..but really, thieves..? I cannot put the label on all of them because of the opportunities i am now creating for myself..at own risk offcourse. You need a bit of luck with everything, that will never change. About that casino's, nobody that i know has ever earned some real money, real profit from casinos and nobody that i know off lives from putting his money in casinos..so, for wich thief i'm gonna choose you think? ;)

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    Let us not forget that Zeek members are also being told to join "Bids that Give".
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    Hello glimdropper. Owkay, let's see what we have here..well..high interests, brake some legs..pompoppomm..thiefs..owkay, i got it. You have some serious points brought up here and all i can do is give you is all the credits for that. Yes its true that it's not because i know this guy is real everything he does is right or legal or whatever..i'm not the guy that takes your knowing in question BUT if all the so called hyip programs are ALL ponzi schemes and therefore all the administrators are all thiefs..what about the casinos then? You always loose in casinos..like i said a friend of mine makes a living of it and yes, he knows the risks..many people i think are making money with this and yes there are people losing some money too because they are too greedy..the administrators of this systems gives people the chance to gain some nice money, but you need to keep your head with it..like with everything in life..and YES, between this bunch of administrators will sit a lot of scum and scam..i agree..but really, thieves..? I cannot put the label on all of them because of the opportunities i am now creating for myself..at own risk offcourse. You need a bit of luck with everything, that will never change. About that casino's, nobody that i know has ever earned some real money, real profit from casinos and nobody that i know off lives from putting his money in casinos..so, for wich thief i'm gonna choose you think? ;)
    Casinos? Gee, where to start. First off all every casino in my country is licensed, regulated and inspected. If a casino is ripping people off (loaded dice, rigged roulette wheels, what ever) the government knows exactly who owns them and where to find them. None of this is true for Profitable Sunrise (PS).

    No casino ever promises it's customers that there is no risk to their money. The notion is absurd on it's face, that's why they call it gambling. You yourself admit there are risks in PS yet what does honest Roman Novak say on his website:

    Risk-free

    An investment with a certain rate of return and no chance of default. Although various investments (for example, savings accounts or blue chip stocks) meet these requirements, a Treasury bill is the most common example of a riskless investment. Risk-free investments have such a low level of risk that it may be ignored. All our loan operations are insured and each one has a security which is equal to the amount of loan plus the interest on the loan. We use the funds invested by our members. So all your investments are insured by default.
    Roman is lying and you know it.

    If he instead had said something like:

    This is a HYIP ponzi scheme. The only way for some one to make a profit is for another person to lose money. This is illegal in every country and if I ever wake up on the wrong side of the bed some morning I'll just turn the website off and walk away with as much of your money as I can.
    Then he would be being honest.

    Also, casinos give you free drinks. And I've never heard of a casino up and vanishing like a fart in the wind before people could cash in their chips.
    So your prophets of finance have fallen on their collective proverbial face, and you hear muffled voices calling: Welcome to the human race.
    You made a killing dealing real estate at NASA selling cemetery plots in outer space til some falling coffins crashed upon your doorstep: Welcome to the human race.

    Open up your heart...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorz View Post
    Hello glimdropper. Owkay, let's see what we have here..well..high interests, brake some legs..pompoppomm..thiefs..owkay, i got it. You have some serious points brought up here and all i can do is give you is all the credits for that. Yes its true that it's not because i know this guy is real everything he does is right or legal or whatever..i'm not the guy that takes your knowing in question BUT if all the so called hyip programs are ALL ponzi schemes and therefore all the administrators are all thiefs..what about the casinos then? You always loose in casinos..like i said a friend of mine makes a living of it and yes, he knows the risks..many people i think are making money with this and yes there are people losing some money too because they are too greedy..the administrators of this systems gives people the chance to gain some nice money, but you need to keep your head with it..like with everything in life..and YES, between this bunch of administrators will sit a lot of scum and scam..i agree..but really, thieves..? I cannot put the label on all of them because of the opportunities i am now creating for myself..at own risk offcourse. You need a bit of luck with everything, that will never change. About that casino's, nobody that i know has ever earned some real money, real profit from casinos and nobody that i know off lives from putting his money in casinos..so, for wich thief i'm gonna choose you think? ;)
    Darn it....I had my money on you going with the "Social Security is a ponzi" line but you went with the casino BS
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    Hahaa okosh hey common man, give me a break lol, i'm sooo sorry i brought that casino bullshit up :-)) damn me..

    Hello glimdropper, i know it's kinda harsh to come with a casino example, all i actually wanted too say of them is not that they ripping people off, i know they are
    licensed, and regulated and etc. but that people always loose money there, ALWAYS! regulated or not..and yeah, they give people free drinks and food, to make them comfortable so that they put more money in it, its al very obvious. and most casinos are nothing more then money carrousels (or how do you call that in English), you know that, therefore i call them REGULATED (licensed) thiefs. I don't wanna loose everytime my money just to have a good time and some free drinks, i want to cash something too, and yeah i know, it's not the perfect story and yeah it's not the perfect reference, all that ponzi's and that promises, neither do the free drinks and foods in casino's.
    I find it strange that someone who i really know is real puts his full name on it, is reachable in reallife and on the phone, is taking this risks..maybe he found a spot in the world where he can hide and no one will ever find him..?
    In short, casino's reference is food and drinks for free and no money
    Profitable Sunrise (ponzi's whatever) reference is no food, no drinks, and maybe money. (you don't get fatter from it ;-) )
    And don't forget, my BEST reference is my friend who lives from it..

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    Guys thanks for starting this thread, after reading all the stuff here. I am going to invest $200 in this program and cross my fingers for a good return..... WIsh me luck
    Its good to read some funny comments here on this thread regarding profit sunrise .. ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by funnyjune View Post
    Guys thanks for starting this thread, after reading all the stuff here. I am going to invest $200 in this program and cross my fingers for a good return..... WIsh me luck
    Its good to read some funny comments here on this thread regarding profit sunrise .. ;)
    Why don't you give the $200 to a horse help charity instead of scam aid. I will fish out a post where somebody claims an investment of that amount in Zeek or Profitable Sunrise goes to a horse charity.

    Copy from a source which I can provide if you PM or e-mail me.

    "I was benefactored with $50 in to this a while ago ... it seems to have gone through several different kinds of upgrades but is not working .... now it is back to the original way it was before. Can you tell me how it works and what it is that I am supposed to do. I don't see any ads to view now. It did look like Zeek for about one week.

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    PROFITABLE SUNRISE - 2.17%/business day in our Private Plan - Referrals help horse rescue and Cloud recovery fund."


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    Quote Originally Posted by funnyjune View Post
    Guys thanks for starting this thread, after reading all the stuff here. I am going to invest $200 in this program and cross my fingers for a good return..... WIsh me luck
    Its good to read some funny comments here on this thread regarding profit sunrise .. ;)
    Heeeey hey hey hold on, wait a minute girl, can i be your referral lol? 2.15procent! :-))) let me know!

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    Quote Originally Posted by funnyjune View Post
    Guys thanks for starting this thread, after reading all the stuff here. I am going to invest $200 in this program and cross my fingers for a good return..... WIsh me luck
    Its good to read some funny comments here on this thread regarding profit sunrise .. ;)
    I wish you well with your donation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by funnyjune View Post
    Guys thanks for starting this thread, after reading all the stuff here. I am going to invest $200 in this program and cross my fingers for a good return..... WIsh me luck
    Its good to read some funny comments here on this thread regarding profit sunrise .. ;)
    Hmm, why does the proverbial saying, "A fool and his money are soon parted" come to mind?
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    Quote Originally Posted by funnyjune View Post
    I am going to invest $200 in this program and cross my fingers for a good return.....
    Hmmnn,

    no prizes for guessing how you got your forum name.

    "cross my fingers for a good return"

    That must be straight from the book "Investment Strategies of the Rich and Famous"

    I wonder if Warren Buffett and Bill Gates do the same thing when they "invest"
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    Quote Originally Posted by funnyjune View Post
    Guys thanks for starting this thread, after reading all the stuff here. I am going to invest $200 in this program and cross my fingers for a good return..... WIsh me luck
    Its good to read some funny comments here on this thread regarding profit sunrise .. ;)
    LOL....Too funny
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    Hi guys

    Now i am here i wanted to ask you guys, because this is what you do, are there maybe programs that you are aware off that can give you a nice amount of money with a faulty proof rate of about 80 procent that you gain your money back? Just a question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorz View Post
    Hi guys

    Now i am here i wanted to ask you guys, because this is what you do, are there maybe programs that you are aware off that can give you a nice amount of money with a faulty proof rate of about 80 procent that you gain your money back? Just a question.
    In a nutshell more education and a real job would cover that!
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    Good one admin, but where i live i give 50 procent from my earnings of my real job back to the state. thats not an option. But it's a beginning :)

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    But, as we learned here, most programs explode after a few weeks and some better programs explode after a year with many people who loss money, what if i tell you there is a program running for 10 years now and everybody is happy with it (at least that i know off..). Probably you know this program..?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorz View Post
    But, as we learned here, most programs explode after a few weeks and some better programs explode after a year with many people who loss money, what if i tell you there is a program running for 10 years now and everybody is happy with it (at least that i know off..). Probably you know this program..?
    If you are aware that any program will eventually "explode" and people will lose money, then what honest person would want to be involved? Legitimate businesses certainly fail, but one does not go into one knowing failure is a 100% certainty and that numerous other desperate people will pay in money that they can't afford to lose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soapboxmom View Post
    If you are aware that any program will eventually "explode" and people will lose money, then what honest person would want to be involved? Legitimate businesses certainly fail, but one does not go into one knowing failure is a 100% certainty and that numerous other desperate people will pay in money that they can't afford to lose.
    Well, it all comes eventually to this if i understand: If you are not 100% sure of something, then don't try it! Am i right? But that's just the point where i have my doubt on, the ONLY 100% certainty that we all can have in our lives is this: we all die.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorz View Post
    Well, it all comes eventually to this if i understand: If you are not 100% sure of something, then don't try it! Am i right? But that's just the point where i have my doubt on, the ONLY 100% certainty that we all can have in our lives is this: we all die.
    I am 100% certain I would never knowingly do anything to harm another! I will die with a totally clear conscience!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soapboxmom View Post
    I am 100% certain I would never knowingly do anything to harm another! I will die with a totally clear conscience!
    My friend said to me: look, i do this this and this, but there are always risks involved! you can loose too..it's your choice. I took that risk
    with both hands and if i loose, then that's not the fault of my friend, neither it is my fault, i just took a risk! it's nobody's fault, it's like a gambling game where you can steer your luck a little bit if you know what you are doing.
    I think you are a very good guy because you would never knowingly do anything to harm another..that probably means that you drive
    in an electric car (no gasses that spread deadly CO), you are aware of where your clothes come from (fabriques with children), never put money on the banks (one big PONZI thats now collapsing) and etc.. Where is that 100 procent now?
    I think you guys do a very good thing here to help people not too fall in every scam and do some sensibilizing around this subject but saying that someone harms other people because he want too take that risk..a bit far for me i'm sorry. If you go to a casino (again, sorry guys ;-) ) how do your free drink taste if you know how many people has lost their home because of it? Is this your fault too because you betted some money on the same games? Is it the fault of the casino's? is it the fault of the dices? no, it's probably the fault of their gambling addiction.
    So, do i harm another one because i put some risk in it..? I know with my totally clear conscience there is a place for everyone in heaven, not? ;-)

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    Colorz, there are people who play HYIPs and know them for what they are. They know the risks and take them willingly, I don't really care about them. As I pointed out above on the Profitable Sunrise website "honest" Roman Novak directly and deliberately lies about those risks. You Know He's Lying and You Don't Care, we do. Can I be any clearer?

    The people we're concerned for are the people who've never played a HYIP before and believe the lies that people like Roman tell them. It's these people who consistently lose money and the money they lose goes to people like your friends who know how to play the game. There is a ton of false information being spread by the people who profit from these scams so we set up this place to make sure that if people are smart enough to search before investing, they have a chance at finding out the truth.

    I'm glad you found this place, I invite you to continue posting. You do a better job of explaining why people shouldn't send Roman their money than we do.
    So your prophets of finance have fallen on their collective proverbial face, and you hear muffled voices calling: Welcome to the human race.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GlimDropper View Post
    Colorz, there are people who play HYIPs and know them for what they are. They know the risks and take them willingly, I don't really care about them. As I pointed out above on the Profitable Sunrise website "honest" Roman Novak directly and deliberately lies about those risks. You Know He's Lying and You Don't Care, we do. Can I be any clearer?

    The people we're concerned for are the people who've never played a HYIP before and believe the lies that people like Roman tell them. It's these people who consistently lose money and the money they lose goes to people like your friends who know how to play the game. There is a ton of false information being spread by the people who profit from these scams so we set up this place to make sure that if people are smart enough to search before investing, they have a chance at finding out the truth.

    I'm glad you found this place, I invite you to continue posting. You do a better job of explaining why people shouldn't send Roman their money than we do.
    Hey tnx admin for the invite, maybe i should explain now why my burger from Mcdonalds that i'm eating right now not looks the same as on the advertisement..

    Look, i've got your point, do i care about the eventually lies if it is like it is, no
    Do i think you guys do a good job with this forum for the people who aren't aware, yes
    Do i think i'm harming people because i put some money at it, no
    Does anyone asked me till now what that 10 year program was with all the happy people? no
    Should i care about that last question? no

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