Thread: Zeek Rewards !! How to get to $3K a month, starting as a free member !

Originally Posted by Okosh

Got to wonder what is them lockers??

Wine ??

Cigars ??

Art ??

Originally Posted by kschang

I believe in the footnotes it says mini-storage contains no Zeek related items.

But the lockers were in zeeks name....Doesn't that make anything in them considered as zeek assets??...

The document simply says: "Neither unit contains Rex Venture Groups property"

Which could be interpreted to mean they don't contain anything at all.

Originally Posted by okosh

But the lockers were in zeeks name....Doesn't that make anything in them considered as zeek assets??...

We need to call in Geraldo Rivera. He'll get to the bottom of it like he did with "Al Capone's Vault"...!

Originally Posted by laidback

We need to call in Geraldo Rivera. He'll get to the bottom of it like he did with "Al Capone's Vault"...!

That Geraldo looks like an extra from a porn flick.......

Would be more fun digging up where did Paul Burks came from.

Apparently he went to school in Shreveport Louisiana, but nobody knows where was he born. Moved to NC "23 years ago" (1989).

Apparently joined up with a country singer and his wife as "the singing magician"

When the lead singer died in 1993 Burks embarked on his MLM journey, it seems. First company started in 1993, then various other companies every 3 years or so.

Tried to run for office in Lexington as a Libertarian about 2000, did not win.

Originally Posted by Mitch McDeere

But if Craddock is perpetuating a scam, he's the one in control. We would seek out a law firm that is reputable enough to continue the "sue the SEC illusion" but with a favorable retainer agreement. If our work is successful, maybe the potential law firms Craddock is approaching is reading this and will either reject him or take up work with a minimum consumption clause.

In my varied legal representation experience as the client working for Fortune 500 companies, we always had a refund clause for unbilled work for retainers above $100k. Always. In fact, we often used escrow accounts and had agreed upon accounting process dispute resolution for billing rates. Granted this was corporate law and slightly different, but I would be shocked if Craddock could not fine a law firm that would offer refund clause for at least some of a $100k retainer.

There's a big difference between being a Fortune 500 company that presumably is contracting legitimate legal council and being a few guys who any decent lawyer knows don't have dick in the way of a case but insist on doing something. I really doubt they have a lawyer to tell you the truth, the antics we've seen so far would honestly scare off most ethical lawyers. I think they're just accumulating the war chest until the clawback actions begin. Of course, when they get sued for the ill gotten gains, this is all gonna come out in THAT case as well, which I'm sure will go over just swell with the Judge.

But if Craddock is perpetuating a scam

There is no 'if' about it.

Smarmy Dave is getting back on his feet:

How To Get 20 Bucks F.R.E.E. Over And Over Again!

From:Dave Kettner <zeeksamurai@gmail.com>
To:xxxxxxxx@yyyy.zzz
Date:Tue, 18 Sep 2012 3:43 AM (4 hours 38 minutes ago)

Hey Team,


There is nothing really new on the Zeek announcement front, but Robert has been making a few updates on his site zteambiz.net under latest news. Also, if you are having troubles logging into your site, please contact Robert directly at legalboards@gmail.com and he will be sure to get your login working for you.


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God Bless,


Dave

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I know what NetSpend's pitch is, but I don't know the deal. When someone uses your affiliate link to get a card and funds it with at least $40 you get $20 and so do they. Don't worry, I'm sure Dave is sharp enough to have found as many of the thousands of complaints about NetSpend on the net and that he'll be transferring all those $20 communions out of the system as soon as they arrive.

I know in a multi level comp plan the numbers don't really need to add up, they can promise to pay out more than they could sustain on paper because of "breakage." They know that a significant percentage of people putting money in will fail to qualify for payouts so there's something like a built in cushion.

But this isn't MLM, it's a straight affiliate marketing deal. Sure, there are thousands and thousands of people complaining about NetSpend freezing up their accounts and making it near impossible to get refunds, but this is a prepaid debit card company. It doesn't make any sense for them to rob Peter to pay Dave. But it also doesn't make any sense for them to match the first $40 someone deposits with them (split between the new member and the referrer). On the other hand their fee schedule looks like they nickle and dime you for a lot of basic transactions, so maybe the loss leader theory is at work here.

Either way, Rip Off Reports at the time of this post lists 164 separate complaints about NetSpend and a simple Google search will turn up many, many more. I am sure that Dave Kettner is completely aware of these issues but he simply doesn't care, after all it's F.R.E.E. M.O.N.E.Y.

Originally Posted by GlimDropper

Smarmy Dave is getting back on his feet:

Is this a separate mailing list from the zteambiz list?

Curious if the zteambiz site has sent out recruiting ads for other opps or not.

Originally Posted by surfer

Is this a separate mailing list from the zteambiz list?

Curious if the zteambiz site has sent out recruiting ads for other opps or not.

This was sent by Dave using the e-mail address which he uses for all his "Samurai" updates, which technically may be different from it being an "official" zTeamBiz list. Robert Craddock owns zTeamBiz but he generally leaves it up to Dave to e-mail updates, if you've ever read Robert's writing it's easy to understand why.

Near the end of last month it looked very much like Dave was going to be following Keith Laggos' example in joining Lyoness as a "Plan B" company. That effort sort of petered out (at least publicly) rather quickly. It's hard to hype Lyoness and raise funds for the lawsuit to nowhere in the same e-mail.

There is nothing really new on the Zeek announcement front

And there never will be either.

Actually,..

I'm on my way out the door but Robert just posted the following:

LATEST NEWS

September 18, 2012


Hello Good People, a lot has happened from our last update, we now have a second law firm assisting in the effort to hold the SEC accountable, so not to confuse anyone we have two law firms on the case now. As soon as they send me over the notice of appearance filing, I can publish it on the Zteambiz.net site.


Second, I would like to say is please; don’t fall for the trap the receiver would like everyone one of you to fall into. As of now the receiver has no victims, and let me expand on this a little, on August 15, 2012 is there anyone here, that felt they were taken and wanted out of Zeek Rewards, I’m willing to bet no one felt that way, in addition if you asked anyone, they would say simply we purchased bids to give away and encourage others to play the penny auction. From that simple action we were all able to earn daily cash awards and we had the ability to have that money paid directly to us, or purchase more bids and build up our retail profit pool.


Now that we all have had a refresher on what we did, how is it that people want to ask if they should fill out a claim form for the receiver thus saying they were a victim and part of an illegal investment Ponzi scam.


Next, the leaders that you all looked up to a month ago, are the same people you trusted with your future growth in Zeek Rewards,. I’m here to tell you they are still the same good people that want good things for you and, and for you to enjoy financial success.


So now we have an overzealous government agency, making unsubstantiated claims and convincing a judge to freeze the bank accounts and, dismantle the penny auction and for what, so the receiver can employ 100 people making in excess of 500 an hour for 210 weeks or 4.3 years and burn through the $500 million they have grabbed in 16 bank accounts.

So looking at this, what is this really about? Is it protecting people or giving a win fall of money to a politically connected law firm? Does the receiver have any incentive to protect anyone or run up a bill and submit invoices to the courts so they can pay themselves?


If you can stay strong, and let the process unfold we have some of the top people now working for us and they are not going to allow the SEC, NC DOJ and the Receiver misstate the facts and create victims where there are none. Lastly, this portal you are reading this in, was not our desire to build a portal for fun, but rather a single point of contact that allows the attorneys to clearly state that they can reach everyone and the costly process the receiver was gearing up to take on is greatly curtailed by this portal and we can limit the money he bills for reaching everyone. We want to make this less and less financially appealing to the receiver as this goes on.

Robert

Note to Robert: More people than you intend are reading your updates. Including the people you are bad mouthing for donations. :)

Netspend is a crappy consumer product that has some use at the very bottom of the sub-prime pre-paid reloadable debit cards. Netspend pays $20 per sign-up to the referring affiliate. They also offer $20 if you load $40. So it looks like 'free money'.

But the fine print shows you where Netspend makes money. You have two choices with your Netspend card:

1. Pay $1 fee per transaction

2. Pay $9.95 monthly fee for "unlimited transactions"

Netspend is targeting those who actually need the card and is willing to pay the exorbitant fees. The "use and cancel the card for the free money" won't last long as Netspend will realize they lose money on the incentived offer and will start cutting off affiliates.

From Craddock and team, they are probably looking to monetize the list, which is what we and some of the critics on BehindMLM have been saying from day one. "The money is in the list" (and its gullible members).

They want to hype up a theoretical situation (i.e. slippery slope fallacy) to promote their own agenda, ha-ha.

Originally Posted by lying scumbag

Second, I would like to say is please; don’t fall for the trap the receiver would like everyone one of you to fall into. As of now the receiver has no victims, and let me expand on this a little, on August 15, 2012 is there anyone here, that felt they were taken and wanted out of Zeek Rewards, I’m willing to bet no one felt that way, in addition if you asked anyone, they would say simply we purchased bids to give away and encourage others to play the penny auction. From that simple action we were all able to earn daily cash awards and we had the ability to have that money paid directly to us, or purchase more bids and build up our retail profit pool.

There were plenty of victims, you're just looking for the ones too stupid to realize it. Of course, no one felt ripped off yet, but had you told them the "profit" they were sharing was just their own money recycled, and that there was no money to pay out any of the rewards if people stopped rolling them over, they may have felt different.
I'm really looking forward to you having to explain yourself when a Judge is asking the questions.

The next announcement will be if you file with the receiver you will be opening yourself to be charged criminally just like they did in the ASD case. This is just ASD Part Deux only on steroids.

Just a hunch, but I think this time they may have a couple of people that sent donations that are going to wake-up and realize just what the Gang of 12 are really doing and then sue their a$$et$ off. One can hope.

"Win fall"? Egad, this gent is barely literate. Not as funny as "crawl back", though.

Originally Posted by GlimDropper, quoting Craddock

" . . . a politically connected law firm."

So, now, according to Craddock, the receiver is a political hack? That's just rich, given that Craddock couldn't wait to drop the name of former Florida Attorney General Bill McCollum (now of SNR Denton) when Craddock was pitching the fundraising scheme with AdSurfDaily Ponzi scheme pitchman Todd Disner on the line. Wasn't long after that that SNR Denton no longer was the ZTeamBiz attorney.

"I reached out to a real good friend of mine," Craddock said. "He's a prior Florida Attorney General: Bill McCollum. Bill is now a partner at SNR Denton . . ."

In the same call, Disner claimed that the SEC "bamboozled" the judge in the Zeek case. It was an interesting claim in that Disner advised a different federal judge six weeks after the government issued $55 million in remissions to ASD Ponzi victims that he was "unaware of any remission payments having been made." For good measure, he later claimed the prosecution went judge shopping when it brought the ASD Ponzi case.

Even after ASD's Andy Bowdoin pleaded guilty and admitted ASD was a Ponzi scheme, Disner declared the government's case was a "house of cards."

UPDATE: AdSurfDaily-Like Weirdness Increasingly Creeps Into Lawsuit Against United States By ASD Pitchmen Dwight Owen Schweitzer And Todd Disner, Who Now Are Promoting Zeek Rewards

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That guy in Columbus Ohio seems to be really out for me. 16 spam comments in the whole morning. Each one with a different IP address, but all in the same subnet (some insurance company). Wonder if he's war driving, or he actually works there? Also saw him use RoadRunner service once, still out of Columbus Ohio.

Originally Posted by kschang

That guy in Columbus Ohio seems to be really out for me. 16 spam comments in the whole morning. Each one with a different IP address, but all in the same subnet (some insurance company). Wonder if he's war driving, or he actually works there? Also saw him use RoadRunner service once, still out of Columbus Ohio.

My employer offers free wifi to the public, so maybe that's it.

Heh, maybe there's an insurance company in Columbus whose employees are really creeped out by someone hanging out in their parking lot for hours, feverishly typing on their phone and mumbling to themself.

Originally Posted by Marley

Heh, maybe there's an insurance company in Columbus whose employees are really creeped out by someone hanging out in their parking lot for hours, feverishly typing on their phone and mumbling to themself.

HeHe, that would be my guess.

Originally Posted by kschang

That guy in Columbus Ohio seems to be really out for me. 16 spam comments in the whole morning. Each one with a different IP address, but all in the same subnet (some insurance company). Wonder if he's war driving, or he actually works there? Also saw him use RoadRunner service once, still out of Columbus Ohio.

Maybe he thinks that's how you do a DDOS attack. :)

Where's MMB when you need him? With his IP Detector he could tell us who it is. Then again, maybe it's him.

Dave's getting testy:

Important Issues That Need to Be Addressed

From:Dave Kettner <zeeksamurai@gmail.com>
To:xxxxxxx@yyyy.zzzDate:Tue, 18 Sep 2012 4:58 PM (2 hours 33 minutes ago)

Hey Team,

A few things that I wanted to address...

Firstly, I sent out a free offer today that I felt some people could benefit by getting some free cash. I have had a bunch of people saying that they do not have $20 to donate to the Zeek lawsuit and to let them know ways to get extra money so they could donate. Another Zeek leader from a different team sent me this free offer, so I thought it would be a great way to help out some people with some free cash and they could do with it what they choose to do with it. It is not a new business we are building, just a free offer. If you are not interested, then simply delete and sorry if it offended you in any way.

Secondly, this newsletter is for communication with the Kettner Samurai Team and you are all subscribed to my newsletter. The purpose of this newsletter is to communicate specifically with our team regarding Zeek Rewards, training, news, and other building opportunities and free offers that we feel will benefit our team. Therefore, there will be times that we send out information regarding things that are offers and other business opportunities as that is what we do for a living. We have a sizable team to communicate to, and we do this via our team newsletter.

We know that some of you have joined our newsletter from other teams to get the latest Zeek Rewards updates and news regarding the lawsuit. Do realise as I have said though that this newsletter is intended for our team and downline, therefore if you choose to stay subscribed, you will be receiving this information too. This newsletter is not intended to be a Zeek Rewards Lawsuit Support Line. If you do not like that, then please unsubscribe from our newsletter. You can get all of the updates directly from Robert Craddock at zteambiz.net, creating an account if you have not already, and watching the latest news section. Trust me, you will not offend me one bit! Then you can contact Robert directly with all of your questions, account problems, worries, rumors on the Internet, why we have not heard from Paul, etc., etc., etc. at zeeklegal@gmail.com.

If you do stay subscribed to our team newsletter, then you will hear about the Zeek lawsuit news as I get it, how things are progressing as I hear it, plans for Zeek moving forward when we win the suit, and how we will build and train our team moving forward from that. You will also learn about how our team is now building Lyoness while we are waiting for Zeek to return and why. We have always been focusing on building proven solid companies and Lyoness is not only that, but has huge opportunities associated with it in many countries. We have asked that the lines of sponsorship be kept in tact as best we can which is why we have not offiically announced it here. Now all of our leaders who wanted to be are now on board, so we have now done this as best we could.

Those of you that have already joined us and are moving your teams of people over to our Lyoness team are being communicated using a different newsletter. That is why I only mentioned it once and do not need to mention in future emails. If you realized that almost all of your spending that you are already doing can be done through the Lyoness network moving forward and you can not only get cash back from that spending but also not turn your liability into a highly rewarding business, then you would want to learn more about what our team is doing with this unique and clear program.

I will also tell you my thoughts regarding other opportunities out there and why we are not building them. First off, there is a lot of junk companies out there. Let me ask you this...did anyone take the MLM Compliance Course through Kevin Grimes and learn anything? The reason why I ask is because I am seeing that many people have jumped on board programs that are NOT COMPLIANT and in time be shut down. These include companies that are passive incomes, do not require sponsoring, require no work, and put money in and let it grow...These are illegal! WCA (World Consumer Alliance) is a perfect example and Banners Brokers are operating in a dangerously grey area.

Another thing is that we do not build any companies that are under five years old and I would not recommend them to you either as they are just too risky! The majority of all start-ups fail before they ever reach five years in the business no matter how wonderful their product is or how great their company is or how huge of a concept they think they have. So why would you want to risk your business and that of people you are recommending into businesses that do not meet the five year criteria? Go Fun Places and Alive Matrix fit perfectly into this category.

Companies that only have one product or a few products are something that we tend to turn away from. If you were not going to purchase a product before hearing about the compensation plan behind it, then it is not a company you are going to want to build. Many health companies from the traditional network marketing business model are losing traction since these models just do not work. But when you can find a company where you are already buying the products and not forced to buy them...bingo!

Anyway, enough about that...The latest information regarding Zeek is that our motions have been filed with the courts and we are waiting for news to come out publicly regarding them. When this happens, you will know and then all of the naysayers spreading rumors around the Internet can find another story to blow out of proportion and lie about.

Thank you as always for your time in reading our newsletter. I hope you understand the tireless hours and effort that a few people have stepped up to the plate to fight for our Zeek Rewards businesses for all of you, the Zeek Rewards affiliates, to benefit when no one else did. These people include but are not limited to Robert Craddock, Todd Disner, the lawyers working behind the scenes, and my beautiful wife Mary. We are still very hopeful and praying for the best as we believe justice will be done. Please continue to support and pray and if it is in God's will, it will be done.

God Bless,

Dave Kettner

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Wow, Dave came dangerously close to saying something I'd agree with him on. But unlike Troy Dooly, Dave isn't worth an effort at correction.