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    Go Daddy has been really great so far. We back up this site like clock work and could easily move if that should ever become necessary.

    The Darnell case was brilliantly handled by my attorney, Matt Kita. That Summary Judgment motion is a beautiful read.

    Following the 60 million dollar suit should be delightful! We can put all the large pdfs here. Those will be pure comedic gold no doubt!

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    Doc Bunkum, you are my hero!
    Looks like we have a mutual admiration thingy going on here, MLMFU, because you're my hero as well! welcome to the forum. That's an awesome site you have over there.

    Nice to see the bots are visiting and indexing these threads on a frequent basis.


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    Along with everyone else here on this forum who supports the downfall of MLMs in general.

    I don't think you'll find too many pro-MLMrs on this site - unlike that scam.com forum
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    Other sites like this one have dumped Doc Bunkum's thread on Adam Baker. It seems everyone is scared to death of "Defamation Lawsuits" and they quickly hang their heads and run away from a fight.
    Trust me, Soapboxmom won't be dumping any threads anytime soon! You haven't see her in action yet!

    Maybe if we ask her nice she'll make this thread a sticky and pin it to the top of the board. Something tells me this is going to turn into a run away thread!

    BTW, I'm not sure if you've found a similar thread to this I started on Quatloos!, but that's another site that isn't going to cave into any threats of "Defamation Lawsuits". They've got some pretty sharp lawyers moderating that place and they'd relish a good skirmish.


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    I'm not worried about being bullied. I did my homework when selecting the host for my website, just like Diederik. Too many people, like Adam Baker, just build websites not realizing that the hosts have to answer for the content.
    Reminds me what happened a while back between Lifewave and Bob Burtis who was running World Wide Scam at the time.

    Lifewave threatened legal action, not against the WWSN, but against the Domain Name Registrar (Network Solutions) that controled the WWSN name and they disabled it. The CONTENT for the WWSN was hosted elsewhere - all Network Solutions does is direct Internet traffic. This is similar to what Travelogia.com tried to do before their program collapsed and died, except THEY went after the web site host. Lifewave attacked the people who simply direct the flow of information on the web.

    How's that for First Amendment rights and due process?

    Lifewave was effectively holding the WWSN hostage and would not release it until their demands were met. Sort of like an MLM version of Al-Qaeda.

    Quote Originally Posted by MLMFU View Post
    For now, I would welcome any stories or communications anyone wants to share.
    Don't be a stranger to this site, MLMFU.

    I've got a ton of stuff I'm going to post about that skank piece of trailer park trash.

    Thanks for dropping in!


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    I was sued by MLM scammer Tim Darnell and kicked his lying rear in Summary Judgment. I am now tangled in a lawsuit with Don Allen Holbrook LLC, an economic developer, that is behind the failed Earthquest theme park in Texas.
    Now, let's not forget to include Broker Jones and that Oceanside Network Forex scam debacle in your list of accomplishments.

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    Now, let's not forget to include Broker Jones and that Oceanside Network Forex scam debacle in your list of accomplishments.
    What about her revelations about BoggyBoy Fiedur of Adlandpro, who tried using one of the top British Law firms to get comments from RS and my web site removed. She showed Bogdan Fiedur up as nothing but a purveyor of women's dirty underwear and some other rather seamy sex videos including she male porn sites

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    Go Daddy has been really great so far.
    I guess that's why they're not called 'stop' daddy.

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    re: Adam Baker's Banned Book: "My Scandalous Life with a Billionaire Cougar" NuSkin's Sandie Tillotson

    This from the Nu Skin scandal cover-up Formerly Filthy Rich thread:


    Quote Originally Posted by lostopportunity View Post
    No doubt about it, that's one vile book! But I made it through and only dry heaved once. My thoughts are this guy entered into a relationship that he felt would improve he and his childrens lives but right away it went down the drain. Its understandable that he'd want out once he met Jen, someone who would give him the one thing all that money would not--affection. Sandie handled the divorce like a typical scorned woman hyped up on millions of dollars, that too was understandable.

    A previous poster stated the book is libelous and I would agree, but usually when a book is written and put out to the public containing libelous content, lawsuits ensue. That didn't happen in this case, or it doesn't seem to have happened. The book and its websites and press releases have been pulled because of threats and intimidation from Nu Skin lawyers. Joe Alfieri stated it in one of his articles on the Examiner... well, before they pulled the story.

    I find it clever that BJean, whoever that is, put the book on ripoff report where it cannot be taken down by money or lawyers. (Wrong) I surfed around on that site and found many libelous claims about many other people. Adam Baker's book is in good company there. I'm glad there is at least that one outlet where the first amendment of Free Speech is upheld. (Certainly not Ripoff Reports. More likely RealScam or MLMFU (Multi-Level Marketing Fraud Uncovered)).

    I've always known MLMs were bad news and the people who formed them were crooks, but this really upset me to see the incredible over-the-top spending/wasting of money. My meager paychecks are a pittance compared to the kind of money mentioned in this book, but, I'm happy and loved and there's food in the cupboard. I wonder how much money is being spent to try to hush this book. If no lawsuit was filed and no court order was given to pull the book, then the contents must be true, that's all I can say.
    To which a NuScam tool took exception:

    Quote Originally Posted by raeder View Post
    i actually work for the company, none of that is actually true. having been here for 3 years i can tell you Nu Skin is not a scam and it does more good in the world with its Nourish the Children and Force For Good then a lot of other companies. You should really research the company before comparing it to other MLM
    BigMac took exception to raeder's post and replied, giving up an awesome link in the process:

    Quote Originally Posted by BigMac37 View Post
    Their 'humanitarian' efforts mimic the Mormon church where the members or distributors make the actual charity contributions. Nu skin only pays administrative costs. You might think that's all fine and dandy but keep in mind that those are tax deductible and these ubber-rich crooks spend more on vacations and new vehicles and more houses and jewelry than they spend on administrative costs to be these 'humanitarians' you have on a pedestal.

    You say you've worked there for three years? I bet you didn't know that Sandie evicted Adam and his children at christmas time and then went on to be the high bidder at the sheriffs auction and then turned around and sold the house to a nu skin employee profiting 400K. Book Burning: I saved one of the blogs - thank goodness for internet cache!

    Make sure you check out that link above and see if you still hold Sandie in 'Saint-like' standing.
    WOW!!!

    Awesome link indeed!


    Book Burning

    This is a blog about my dear friend and his struggle to get the truth out about what happened before, during, and after his marriage to the tyrant Sandie Tillotson. Sandie Tillotson molested his son and is using her billionaire status to extinguish all traces of Adam, his family, and his TRUE STORY! Stand up for First Amendment RIghts and READ THIS BLOG!!


    My son wrote this letter right before Christmas in 2008. He was 9 years old at the time. When a little boy is that age, a few days before Christmas he should be dreaming of all the toys he is going to get on the “big day”, pining over the ones he might not get – and making sure he’s been a good boy all year so Santa doesn’t forget him. Not Korbin. Not that year.

    Korbin disappeared down to his room right after dinner. My sweet little blonde haired son Korbin, who was usually jovial and fun-loving, who liked goofing off and watching re-runs of SpongeBob, was all of a sudden sullen. He reappeared back up into the family room a while later, with this piece of paper in his hand.

    “Dad. I wrote Sandie a letter.”

    He handed it to me. I quickly read it, and a tear welled up in my eye. I fought hard to hold it back.

    “I thought maybe if I sent her a letter she wouldn’t take away our house.”
    Nice one, Sandie.

    Christmas time.

    What a kind, wonderful, thoughtful, caring human being you are, Sandie. Definitely a credit to the human race and the Mormon church.

    Know that old saying about what goes around, comes around?

    Trust me, you're starting to get paid back for all the misery and heartache you've caused others.

    It's your turn now!

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    re: Adam Baker's Banned Book: "My Scandalous Life with a Billionaire Cougar" NuSkin's Sandie Tillotson

    A previous poster stated the book is libelous and I would agree
    How would they know? They weren't there

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    re: Adam Baker's Banned Book: "My Scandalous Life with a Billionaire Cougar" NuSkin's Sandie Tillotson

    Book Burning in America & More Stories Not in the Book


    This is the Adam Baker story. The story not told in his book. This is the Adam Baker story told by one of his very close friends, who has been there with him through it all.

    You see, I have known Adam since we've been little, and I've seen everything he has done, experienced, flown, married, and crashed. Adam Baker is a guy that even alpha males can get a "guy crush" on - not because he's the best looking guy, but because he's a guy with BALLS. Because he is the guy who is not afraid to say what he thinks and be who he is. Even most of us self-proclaimed "alpha-males" are still living our lives for someone else - trying to be, buy, impress, whatever you call it.

    I read his book, cover to cover. I begged him not to publish it, because I knew Sandie would come after him with her "assassins" and her other on-the-payroll "thugs" and "merchants of deception."

    Makes sense now. I was confused over just who's blog this was, but I think I understand who's writing. There's both Adam and a friend contributing.


    Sandie was, and continues to be, a merciless and nefarious woman who knows no God other than the "God of money." No, that creepy woman with the facelift in the youtube videos that talks about being a great mother to her kids and this wonderful Grandmother? Hogwash. I've seen it. The woman detests kids, her own, and especially "other" people's kids.

    Not only is the "loving mother" persona a sham, so is her entire past. Sandie hails directly from Nazi's who escaped the Nuremberg trials, and the Neaman's still pass around old family photo albums at family parties, proud of their "SS" heritage. The cold and soulless blood that ran through her forefathers veins certainly did not escape Sandie, no, she is very much a thriving, calculating individual with enough venom in her pinky finger to incapacitate the entire island of Manhattan.

    Every decision in Sandie's life is a calculation of risk to reward. Each person in Sandie's life is there, not because they like her as a person, but because of what they hope to get by being present in her ubiquitous "court." I've been at parties and seen people actually start shaking when they meet Sandie, as if they've just met Jesus or the President of the United states. What kind of an idiot would behold someone and put them on a pedestal simply because they have made a lot of money? Sadly, that is what we as Americans judge each other on and place most value, the accumulation of material things, not the actual true nature and deeds of the individual person.
    Neaman - I've never seen her maiden name mentioned before. Good to know!

    Nazi lineage. Proud of their "SS" heritage.

    This just keeps getting better and better!

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    re: Adam Baker's Banned Book: "My Scandalous Life with a Billionaire Cougar" NuSkin's Sandie Tillotson

    Book burning in America: a tale of Nu Skin
    by Joe Alfieri (Examiner.com) November-06-11

    There are moments in a person’s life that shake you to your foundation, that cause you to rethink everything you think you know, moments that hit like a two by four upside your head. Just such moment arrived for me late on a Friday afternoon.

    A friend of mine, let’s call him Adam, since that’s his name, has self-published a book, Formerly Filthy Rich, My Scandalous Life with a Billionaire Cougar. . . .

    Now his book is at the very least R-rated, and it’s an account of his six year marriage to Nu Skin co-founder Sandie Tillotson. Nu Skin, for those of you who don’t know, is a multi-level marketing company which sells skin care and nutrition products through a network of independent distributors.

    Nu Skin thinks he knows too much, or at the very least says too much, and on this particular Friday afternoon used its team of lawyers to shut down distribution of Formerly Filthy Rich by Barnes & Noble and Amazon. Let me say that another way, in case you missed it: they got the book banned. A figurative burning of a book, but in the world of electronic publishing a burning none the less. A burning worthy of Nazi Germany, or Fahrenheit 451. Book burning and censorship in America, friends. . .


    (Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...

    Don't bother trying to read the rest of the article at the examiner- the on-line newspaper - Sandie and her team of lawyers got to them too.


    http://www.examiner.com/conservative...ale-of-nu-skin This article gives more info on how Nu Skin was able to get the book pulled from B&N and Amazon. (link)
    There must have been some pretty damning information in that article!

    Unfortunately, no trace of the original article exists on the web that I could find.

    However, not all is lost. I did manage to find a copy of what must have upset Sandie and her hot-shot lawyers so much.

    Thank you Jon M. Taylor at Consumer Awareness Institute for preserving this!


    "BOOK BURNING IN AMERICA: A TALE OF NU SKIN"


    This article by Joe Alfieri describes how the book Formerly Filthy Rich;My Scandalous Life with a Billionaire Cougar, by Adam Baker, husband #3 of NuSkin founder Sandie Tillotson, was banned from distribution by Barnes and Noble and Amazon.com. NuSKin's attorneys. Quoting the author:

    "Nu Skin thinks he knows too much, or at the very least says too much, and on this particular Friday afternoon used its team of lawyers to shut down distribution of Formerly Filthy Rich by Barnes & Noble and Amazon. Let me say that another way, in case you missed it: they got the book banned.

    A figurative burning of a book, but in the world of electronic publishing a burning none the less. A burning worthy of Nazi Germany, or Fahrenheit 451. Book burning and censorship in America, friends.

    The lawyers argued (at least to B&N, their story to Amazon was quite different, which we’ll address in a moment) that the book was defamatory. It may be, but defamation is best argued before a court of law, where each side presents its case. Adam says he stands by every word he’s written, and is ready to produce witnesses. If that’s the case, then there is no defamation. Nu Skin says burn the book anyway, before anyone gets to read it. Barnes & Noble rolled over and pulled the book from its website quicker than you could say, oh, Sarah Palin. The Joe McGinnis book about Palin, if you’re keeping score, is still available, even if it is defamation, or claimed to be.

    The story presented to Amazon by Robert S. Clark of Peer Brown Gee & Loveless of Salt Lake City, said nothing about defamation, but the result was the same. Nu Skin argued that the material in the book was not Adam’s. Baker says that of course it’s his story, and is ready to produce his drafts and copyrights to prove it. No matter, Amazon has pulled the book “pending investigation.”

    Earlier in the week Adam’s WordPress blog was shut down, and although he hasn’t gotten word as to why from notoriously slow to respond WordPress, one has to think there’s something of a pattern here.

    And here then is the Thumper betrayed Bambi moment, for me, dear reader. I celebrate and proclaim on a continual basis, loudly and very proudly, the freedom we enjoy as Americans, even as I watch good people slandered, lies told, and reputations destroyed in the press on a daily basis because of that freedom. I tell myself it’s the exchange of ideas in a public forum, and that the truth will out in the end, that it’s the price paid for freedom of speech. And that we all enjoy that freedom, that we’re all equal in the marketplace of ideas and free speech. But I am shaken by this story of David and Goliath, by the idea that a woman with over a billion dollars and the company she owns a good deal of can prevent the publication of a book that might do them harm, even if the tale is true. I’m shaken by the story because I can’t imagine it happening in this country, where we supposedly value the truth, unvarnished, and equally distributed. Am I wrong? I’d like to think that David will slay Goliath, because if he doesn’t, then perhaps all is lost, and those mobs on the street in Oakland braying against evil corporations may have more truth in them than even they know."


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    And now realscam has probably the only complete copy of the original article that still exists on the web!

    I should start a separate thread on Joe Alfieri's original article and see if 4Skin's lawyers can take it down!

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    re: Adam Baker's Banned Book: "My Scandalous Life with a Billionaire Cougar" NuSkin's Sandie Tillotson

    Littleroundman and I both have copies of Adam's book as well. I will slap it all over the net if that becomes necessary. NuSkin, Sandie Tillotson and Don Allen Holbrook can go jump in the lake!!!!

    The truth will out in the end and this bloody fight may well generate some great national media coverage. Let's get to work on that!!!

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    re: Adam Baker's Banned Book: "My Scandalous Life with a Billionaire Cougar" NuSkin's Sandie Tillotson

    I just had a lovely chat with Diederik van Nederveen. He is an incredibly caring person. Our hearts go to those harmed by their involvement in MLM. It looks to me like NuSkin is finally going to get the attention it deserves. Sandie Tillotson's 60 million dollar lawsuit against Mr. van Neederveen is generating a deluge of publicity. Kudos to him for taking a stand!

    http://pyramidschemealert.org/nu-ski...histle-blower/

    Dr. Jon Taylor and Robert Fitzpatrick have published a great deal about NuSkin. Now, we are learning real story behind NuSkin. This should help the little guys losing their shirts in these pyramid pay plans to think twice before getting involved. Who would believe that Tillotson is doing NuSkin out of the goodness of her heart to help the masses succeed???

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    Nu Skin co-founder embroils company in her marital maelstrom | The Salt Lake Tribune

    It will be quite interesting to see how the stock NUS reacts to this deluge of publicity!
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    Nu Skin exec files defamation suit against ex-husband
    Deseret News - Monday, May 21 2012

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    SALT LAKE CITY — A Nu Skin Enterprises executive filed a lawsuit Monday, suing an ex-husband for defamation.

    Sandra Tillotson, who founded Provo-based Nu Skin and serves as senior vice president and director of the multilevel marketing, personal care and pharmaceutical products company, claims her ex-husband Diederik van Nederveen Meerkerk recently published harmful information about her on his website...

    The lawsuit details only a portion of the information that was publicized, in which van Nederveen alleges Tillotson was "engaged in criminal conduct, conduct that is incompatible with the exercise of a lawful business, trade, profession, or office, and being unchaste.

    Van Nederveen also represented to the public that Tillotson "used corporate aircraft to transport illegal drugs to Asia, that the business she founded is an illegal pyramid scheme, and that she previously worked as a prostitute," the lawsuit states...

    I tell you, looking at that photo, if that woman has one more facelift she's going to have to start shaving.

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    Re: Adam Baker's Banned Book: "My Scandalous Life with a Billionaire Cougar" NuSkin's Sandie Tillotson

    Time for some fact checking:
    The Quiet Listings | Observer
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    By Max Abelson 2/03/09 11:33pm

    In the middle of these cartoonishly dismal times, what’s a cosmetics executive to do if she wants to ask nearly $100 million for her penthouse? She’ll put it on the market without actually putting it on the market, just like a venture capitalist, a widowed philanthropist, a pharmaceuticals mogul and a Victoria’s Secret billionaire have recently done.

    According to two sources, Sandie Tillotson, the senior vice president and co-founder of Nu Skin Enterprises, a massive direct-selling cosmetics company (products include a Creamy Hydrating Masque Nourishing Treatment and IceDancer Invigorating Leg Gel), has quietly put an $80 million price tag on her Time Warner Center penthouse. She paid $29 million for it in early 2005, and renovated the condo from about 8,300 square feet of raw space into a five-bedroom pied-à-terre.

    One reason for the spate of these very hushed listings is embarrassment over asking such huge sums during such a hugely depressed time. On the one hand, sellers don’t want to seem uncouthly, insensitively ambitious; and then again they most certainly don’t want to seem desperate: “Some of the prices are so egregious and greedy,” a broker who has one of New York’s biggest listings said this week. “Why would you put the thing on, have friends speculate on why you would or wouldn’t be selling? You do it quietly, and if someone gives you the right number, then great.”

    Considering that no single piece of New York residential real estate has ever sold for more than $53 million, is it slightly awkward to be asking $80 million for an apartment this winter? “No, I don’t think so,” said Sotheby’s broker Eva Mohr, who confirmed that she’s handling Ms. Tillotson’s penthouse, and will be the listing broker if it officially comes on the market. “I think people have something in their mind, and if that’s what people want to ask, then that’s what they’ll ask when they’re ready to ask it.”

    Ms. Mohr wouldn’t discuss her client or the apartment except to say, “It feels like you’re sitting on top of the world. You can see all the way to the Tappan Zee Bridge, and you can see all the way up to Connecticut, and all the way over to Pennsylvania.” She paused and thought about that, then said, “I think it’s safe to say you can see all of New Jersey.”
    Clearly, while the desperate masses are on autoship for Nu Skin, the founders and top reps are living the lifestyle of the rich and famous off of their backs. Adam Baker's story about this purchase is factual.

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    Re: Adam Baker's Banned Book: "My Scandalous Life with a Billionaire Cougar" NuSkin's Sandie Tillotson

    Adam Baker's book, Formerly Filthy Rich, really made me think


    AUTHOR: TheoB - (United States of America) SUBMITTED: Tuesday, November 22, 2011


    I have been approached regularly by independent Nu Skin distributors; some of whom are actually related to me. I wouldn't have responded to Adam's book had I not attended a Nu Skin opportunity meeting and experienced the deception first hand.

    Adam's book was sent to me by an acquaintance who has been an active distributor but never had much success and is rather disgruntled. After reading the book, I found some of it hard to believe, but he sure got me to surf the web and I was appalled at what i found.

    Reading the postings by independent journalists clearly shows a level of ignorance that I had not expected from people in her position. Several other individuals seem to have fallen for the abuse dished out by Ms. Tillotson. A while back I heard about a Park City based divorce case describing Adam's ex wife Sandie in unflattering terms, but I got online to find it and it seems to have vanished. It irks me that a large corporation will simple strong-arm and remove any negative material even if it's true, all to protect their precious image. Who else have they abused and silenced.

    I also wonder why they need lobbyists if their business was up to snuff. In any case I will be watching the development of this debacle with great interest. I hope it leads to more protest and action from other victims of Nu Skin. I'm really surprised there aren't more blogs on the web about it
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    Trust me, Theo, there's going to be plenty more info about Nu Skam - most of it not too flattering I might add - that's going to be published!

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    Re: Adam Baker's Banned Book: "My Scandalous Life with a Billionaire Cougar" NuSkin's Sandie Tillotson

    It just didn't get much better than this!

    Sandie, is this you or one of your minions writing?


    Adam Baker is far from a saint

    AUTHOR: I know him - Salt Lake City (United States of America)Friday, January 20, 2012

    I cannot comment on anything to do with NuSkin; much of it may be true. However I know Adam and I know him to be the most dishonest, decetful person I have ever known. He has no skills, cannot read or write (his latest wife probably actually wrote the book). He was hardly a star of any ice shows, he helped his family run a small ice rink. He got his first wife pregnant when she was 16, and proceeded to have total of 5 kids with no means of support. He was always on the take. Somehow got a loan for a house, never made any payments and lost that, then moved his young family into a self storage "closet" without heat of water or toilets for a time. He used each of his kids social Sec # to obtain credit for loans for cars, furnature at places like RC Willey with no intention of ever paying for a thing. He became a male stripper, abandoned his 5 kids and married again. Then left her and married Sandi. Adam is not smart - you can only imagine what her standards must be like. But in Sandi's defense, she took in his 5 kids, paid for things they needed, took them on trips and after their split she still supported them quite a bit. Adam has paid nearly zero child support to date ! Adam is on about his 4th marrage - always looking for someone to take care of him, because remember he never got past about 8th grade and has no skills except stripping, ice skating and spending someone else's money. He can't be trusted so take some of what he says with a grain of salt from a scorned lover as well.

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    Re: Adam Baker's Banned Book: "My Scandalous Life with a Billionaire Cougar" NuSkin's Sandie Tillotson

    Geez,

    if they made this into a TV show no one would watch it, saying it's too far fetched to be true.
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    Re: Adam Baker's Banned Book: "My Scandalous Life with a Billionaire Cougar" NuSkin's Sandie Tillotson

    Then this priceless rebuttal to the above poster!

    Is it really Adam Baker?

    AUTHOR: Estelle de Cloutier - Paris (France) SUBMITTED: Wednesday, February 15, 2012

    The previous statements is hilarious!

    Here is a woman who claims she was Adam's lover and tells the world what a loser he is in the same sentence, lol
    Who makes that the biggest idiot of the two?

    I don't know Adam well, other then seeing him at some NS functions, but Adam married successful woman (at least the last two), while she who says to be a former lover states that he is an idiot but fails to mention that he has a pilots license, dances like only a few guys can, and has done quite some other stuff that most man love to do but simply do not or can not.

    Despite all that, from what I have seen, he is perhaps not the brightest light but that may be due to lack of education. However, again, maybe it is the woman who sleep with him that should be blamed for doing so if they really felt that he was a leeching loser.

    What ever Adam or any of her other lovers are, for Sandie, a shareholder of a billion dollar outfit, to marry a fellow like him speaks of her more than it speaks of him. Given her history, she is the one to question.

    I also read online about the drama surrounding Ron Gratzinger and some of her other lovers. She truly has a screw lose but gets away with it because of her wealth which enables her to manipulate reality. Exactly that is at trial here; the ability of the 1% of the super wealthy to abuse and manipulate the 99% who can't defend them self.

    All of this dirt on Sandie or Adam doesn't changes NuSkin's deceptive business model. It doesn't remove the fact that NSI is run by a bunch of LDS (mormon) freaks whose obsession to enter the next realm, free of Earthly stains, (while ripping people off on a grand scale), should be upsetting the masses.

    Ask your self how it is possible that a brainwashed cheater like Blake Roney who is now heading on a Mormon mission slime balls his way in to an imaginary, illusive heaven after life, and/or Sandie who's acting all charitable and sweet on camera but then will abuse her power to hurt people in her private sphere, blowing millions on her egoistic lifestyle. (Read Adam's book).

    So, again, is Adam really the bad guy for exposing these dirty manipulators for what they are?

    I am a former employee of a company that supplies NSI, and when it comes to NSI, I have seen it all, and some.
    They maybe big and powerful, they may even look good on the outside, but now, since that curtain is lifted, we get to see what is at their core.

    Don't be fooled by their ability to shine and don't be mislead by the reward they give a few on top who suck dry the masses who lose!

    And certainly do not ignore their abusive business model and personal behavior!

    Whatever you believe, ask any basic CPA BEFORE you sign up in to their bs and waste your time and money!


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    Re: Adam Baker's Banned Book: "My Scandalous Life with a Billionaire Cougar" NuSkin's Sandie Tillotson

    Diederik van Nederveen's response to Adam Baker's book is very telling:
    http://diederikvannederveen.com/updates
    In October of 2011, Sandie’s third ex-husband, Adam Baker, published a book about his marriage to her titled, Formerly Filthy Rich. I warned Sandie via e-mail that her way of dealing with Adam’s book was a clear sign of negligence to honor her fiduciary obligations, which require her to always try to avoid drawing negative attention to herself and Nu Skin.
    At the time, I was trying to assist in the situation after Mark Roney (brother of Nu Skin co-founder, Blake Roney) asked me to try to communicate with Adam. Instead of facilitating the process, Sandie’s lawyers purposefully disrupted my already feeble communication with Adam Baker and his book went on to spread like wild fire.
    Had she made a sincere effort to handle her divorce fairly, Adam wouldn’t have developed the festering hatred toward her which drove him to write the book. I know so because I too endured her manipulations while I was trying to bounce back after the divorce. This had serious implications to my relationship with our daughter and it is her own behavior that triggered me and later Adam to take a closer look at her and Nu Skin. In my case, leading to my discovery of the clear and utter deception committed by them.

    When Barron's reporter Bill Alpert called Nu Skin he was told that Adam Baker and I are "engaged in desperate attempts" to gain more favorable treatment from Sandie and disrupt Nu Skin activity for our personal advantage. I am no Adam Baker fan but what he did via his book is lash-out in a libelous fashion after being abused. And what I am doing is expose the truth which includes the absurd behavior by Sandie, Nu Skin and some others (including my own--as can be read in my book) because it is the only way available to us to make a point: enough is enough.

    Remember, Sandie blocked my communication with my daughter after hustling me for years for no good reason... while abusing millions of people around the world with her Nu Skin scam.
    Instead of looking in the mirror and admitting to the massive exploitation these Nu Skinners commit, they ridicule Adam and now also me (and anyone else who tells the truth) while going on with their deceit and abuse.
    All I can say is once you see the pile of data I have you'll know who the real "Saints" are.

    In October of 2011, Sandie’s third ex-husband, Adam Baker, published a book about his marriage to her titled, Formerly Filthy Rich. I warned Sandie via e-mail that her way of dealing with Adam’s book was a clear sign of negligence to honor her fiduciary obligations, which require her to always try to avoid drawing negative attention to herself and Nu Skin.
    At the time, I was trying to assist in the situation after Mark Roney (brother of Nu Skin co-founder, Blake Roney) asked me to try to communicate with Adam. Instead of facilitating the process, Sandie’s lawyers purposefully disrupted my already feeble communication with Adam Baker and his book went on to spread like wild fire.
    Had she made a sincere effort to handle her divorce fairly, Adam wouldn’t have developed the festering hatred toward her which drove him to write the book. I know so because I too endured her manipulations while I was trying to bounce back after the divorce. This had serious implications to my relationship with our daughter and it is her own behavior that triggered me and later Adam to take a closer look at her and Nu Skin. In my case, leading to my discovery of the clear and utter deception committed by them.

    When Barron's reporter Bill Alpert called Nu Skin he was told that Adam Baker and I are "engaged in desperate attempts" to gain more favorable treatment from Sandie and disrupt Nu Skin activity for our personal advantage. I am no Adam Baker fan but what he did via his book is lash-out in a libelous fashion after being abused. And what I am doing is expose the truth which includes the absurd behavior by Sandie, Nu Skin and some others (including my own--as can be read in my book) because it is the only way available to us to make a point: enough is enough.

    Remember, Sandie blocked my communication with my daughter after hustling me for years for no good reason... while abusing millions of people around the world with her Nu Skin scam.

    Instead of looking in the mirror and admitting to the massive exploitation these Nu Skinners commit, they ridicule Adam and now also me (and anyone else who tells the truth) while going on with their deceit and abuse.

    All I can say is once you see the pile of data I have you'll know who the real "Saints" are….

    The issue about “Extortion” is another fable because I never demanded money with the threat of releasing a book. During the conversation with Nu Skin’s CEO, Truman Hunt, who called me in April of 2012, he asked me how much I thought my book was worth. I told him that publishers estimated the value to be about fifty million dollars with global sales, but I never asked to be paid by him or anyone for it.

    The other claim her lawsuit makes is that I supposedly have said or written that Sandie was a prostitute. She totally ignored that it was Adam Baker, not me, who wrote in his book that she bought her first sports car with her earnings as a teenage prostitute. I never publically said anything to that extent and I will never write anything on my website nor in my book on the matter either. By accusing me, Sandie only urges people to now ask, “Is it true, was she a prostitute?”

    Then, I never claimed that she would risk her freedom by trafficking drugs or money out of the country when her income is several millions per month; this wouldn't make any sense.
    What makes her attack against me so laughable and devious is the fact her lawsuit was supposed to be “private,” closed off for public viewing. It was a blessing that it was “leaked” by a court clerk who “misplaced” the file. If it had not been leaked, no newspaper would have exposed the truth of her illegal abuse of power and mis-use of the legal system.
    I am not sure which one of her lawyers had the less than brilliant idea to either follow her advice to make these allegations or suggested she includes them in the lawsuit. Whoever it was, it sure helped me make my point: Ms. Tillotson will do nearly anything to get her way and hurt people, even if she looks like a fool as a result and takes her company down with it. That is one of the main reasons, in my opinion, why she was told to vacate her spot on the Nu Skin board of directors.

    Just weeks ago Sandie contacted Ron G. and did what can only be described as “intimidation of a witness.” She fears that he will tell what she did to him and expose her absurd, illegal and unethical use of her financial power.
    Her actions against me are in many ways exactly that. I was a witness to many of the illegal, deceptive or abusive insanities of the Nu Skin world and now I am not allowed to speak to my own daughter and I am being sued for 60 million dollars based on false charges, and she seeks a court injunction to silence me. What else will this lead to?
    It is this aggressive bullying by her and other 1%-ers that is feeding a global rebellion and it is no accident that people like myself are exposing companies and individuals who resort to tactics designed to manipulate people to go away and be quiet.
    The focus is the millions being harmed by Nu Skin.
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    Re: Adam Baker's Banned Book: "My Scandalous Life with a Billionaire Cougar" NuSkin's Sandie Tillotson

    If this doesn't want to make you...

    Uh... Extortion Anyone?


    AUTHOR: Voice of Reason - Salt Lake City (United States of America) SUBMITTED: Wednesday, May 02, 2012


    It is hard to believe anyone would fall for this blatant display of extortion. Sandie is one of the kindest, most generous, and loving people I have ever met. I have had the wonderful blessing of being a long time friend of hers and would stand with her until the end.

    To me Sandie is a wonderful inspiration. She was born in very humble circumstances (her father being a carpenter in Long Island, NY). She moved to Utah at age 17 to go to BYU on an full-ride academic scholarship. After graduation she became a high-school science teacher while her first husband, and current best friend, Craig worked on the oil rigs. They both had big dreams and began to explore entrepreneurship... They chased the American dream and defied all odds by turning a little Provo company into a Billion dollar publicly traded business. Is she perfect? Who is? But she is definitely not the person this extortionist is trying to make her out to be. Along her journey she has blessed the lives of millions. One example Nu Skin Force for Good Foundation

    What you have with this whole Adam thing is one man that "got rich quick" without paying the price Sandie did to get there. He lived in opulence for a while but he did not have the emotional character forged by the journey to keep it together. He blew it. Now he wants more $$$ and is resorting to extortion. That's illegal by the way... Extortion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Adam never mentions that Sandie still takes care of his kids financially... Not out of a court order but because she loves those kids. She has even given each one of his kids a college/schooling fund. One of his daughters used these funds to go through hair school. Oh, and she has had all of Adam's kid over for Christmas ever years since the divorce.

    ----

    Now about Nu Skin. People have sited 99.6% as a failure rate of some kind. That is also untrue. I joined Nu Skin years ago, not to make me a millionaire, but so I could get products at wholesale. I didn't want to keep bugging Sandie for product :-) It doesn't cost anything to sign up as a distributor.

    So technically I am a distributor (part of the 99.6%) but like the majority of distributors in the company, I joined to get the products at wholesale. And I love the products! My experience with Nu Skin has been a complete success despite my lack of Nu Skin millions.

    I know other distributors that joined Nu Skin to make a car payment or a house payment. These people would also fall under the "failure" category despite having reached their individual goals. Individual success does not necessarily require making the kind of money the .4% makes.

    In conclusion, Sandie is an amazing mother, grandmother, and friend. She is up on a pedestal because of her success and people "throw rock and thing that shine." I love Sandie with my whole heart.

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    Re: Adam Baker's Banned Book: "My Scandalous Life with a Billionaire Cougar" NuSkin's Sandie Tillotson

    And the follow up rebuttal to the above post:

    Big Money Can't Buy The Truth


    AUTHOR: Voice of Reality - (United States of America) SUBMITTED: Sunday, May 06, 2012


    In response to the above comment by Voice of Reason, I have a dose of Reality. It's perfectly clear that Sandie Tillotson and/or Nu Skin posted that comment to build up the character of Ms. Tillotson. Best friend you say, stand with her till the very end? I hope you don't have a boyfriend or husband because she'll soon be in bed with them. She's done it before to her 'Best Friends'. Sandie Tillotson has a long history of abusing her ex-lovers, even filing false charges, as I've found on the internet.

    The book, Formerly Filthy Rich, which was removed from this original post by Nu Skin's ruthless lawyers, is still floating around out there in cyberspace. It's only a matter of time until it finds its way onto a site where it cannot be 'bought off'. These sites do exist, mind you.

    The 'Blessed the lives of Millions' with the 'Force for Good' charity crap stated above is Nu Skin's way of looking good while the distributors are the ones who are paying the money to purchase items through 'Nourish the Children' (a FOR PROFIT initiative -read the fine print listed on the inside back cover of the current product catalog.) Posing for a photo with starving children means nothing really. Now, if Sandie was to show her charitable contributions that she claims on her taxes, that would be something to defend.

    As far as her claims of Sandie working so hard to get the company going, it's not true. Sandie is just the token face. Clara McDermott is really the one who was the driving force from the early beginnings. Clara is Sandie's ex-mother-in-law.

    The above poster said: "What you have with this whole Adam thing is one man that "got rich quick" without paying the price Sandie did to get there. He lived in opulence for a while but he did not have the emotional character forged by the journey to keep it together. He blew it. Now he wants more $$$ and is resorting to extortion."

    I guess the fact that Sandie Tillotson chose to marry a stripper and drag him into the 'opulent' lifestyle has nothing to do with it?

    When a woman, who is on the board of directors of a publicly traded company, decides to marry a stripper a decade and a half younger than her, and then needs to have her 'friends' try to reestablish her credibility because said husband gets upset when his silver spoon is taken away, the question needs to be asked... Why was she allowed to remain on the board of directors with a personal life that was so out of whack? Don't the shareholders have a say in the type of people allowed to be in control of the company they invest in? Actually, they do. Their voices are heard every time the share price drops like it has recently.

    The above poster says she only wanted to buy wholesale products from Nu Skin and that the 99.94% failure rate is bogus. My response to that is, even wholesale price is waaaaaaaay too much money for shampoo that makes your scalp itch and turn red. Question- does she pay the $100 a month minimum to remain 'active'? Does her friend who only wants to make a car payment pay $100 a month minimum to Nu Skin? Most likely so. Nu Skin's #1 product is listed on the first page of the catalog in the first three words--AN UNSURPASSED OPPORTUNITY. It is the product that is promoted the most often at their high pressure sales meetings and its not even a product at all, its an opportunity. If the above poster or anyone one else for that matter loved the Nu Skin products so much why don't they just buy them for the full retail price and not become part of the 99.96% failure rate. For a publicly traded company trying to appear successful alongside the other Big Boy companies, they should really be trying hard to improve the failure rate of the distributors. They could do that by encouraging people to buy retail UNLESS they really want to push the business and are properly motivated to do so. It's possible the failure rate could improve. But that's not what a Pyramid Scheme does. They are dependent on you and others like you 'buying wholesale' and paying out $100 a month.

    So, before Sandie Tillotson and/or Nu Skin tries to defend her character or the company's #1 product, they might want to open their eyes to the way the rest of the world perceives them.

    -Voice of Reality

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    Re: Adam Baker's Banned Book: "My Scandalous Life with a Billionaire Cougar" NuSkin's Sandie Tillotson

    Where do these people get their power to halt free speech?


    AUTHOR: TBingham - (United States of America) Monday, November 28, 2011

    Do we live in the United States of America or the United States of Nu Skin? I want to know what the court order said that would have given the authority to remove this book. The courts were never involved with this debacle or else Adam would have had to appear in his own defense and that hasn't happened according to a friend of mine who's in the know. I smell a national news feeding frenzy.
    The United States of Nu Skin!

    I hope this forum has a small part in starting a national news feeding frenzy.

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    Re: Adam Baker's Banned Book: "My Scandalous Life with a Billionaire Cougar" NuSkin's Sandie Tillotson

    'MLM' The American Dream Made Nightmare: The narcissistic bosses of the 'NuSkin' mob have foolishly attracted more media attention.
    Sunday, 3 June 2012

    The narcissistic bosses of the 'NuSkin' mob have foolishly attracted more media attention.







    So far, the inflated market-price of 'NuSkin's' counterfeit shares has fallen from $62 to around $40. This has led the 'NuSkin' bosses to embark on a desperate attempt to maintain their rapidly-crumbling monopoly of information.

    Sandie Tillotson

    On May 21st, 2012, one of the instigators of the 'NuSkin' racket, Sandie Tillotson (b. 1957), filed a malicious lawsuit in a Utah state court, in which (amongst other things) she falsely-accused her ex-husband, Diederik van Nederveen Meerkerk (b. 1965), of being responsible for the dramatic fall in the value of 'NuSkin' shares. Rather than face up to reality,Tillotson, who is an executive vice president of 'NuSkin' (on an annual salary in excess of $800 000) and who apparently remains the largest individual holder of effectively-valueless shares in this ongoing criminal enterprise, now steadfastly pretends that, as a result of Mr. van Nederveen talking to Wall Street insiders, she has, so far, personally lost $60 millions.

    This week, I have been in contact Diederik van Nederveen, who is currently writing an account of his life as the second of Sandie Tillotson's three trophy husbands. Far from being the wild money-grasping liar (whom Ms. Tillotson has portrayed in her recent lawsuit), I found Mr. van Nederveen to be a free-thinking individual (trying to maintain his sense of humour) who now courageously accepts that, for seven years (1993-200), he lived under the influence of a pernicious cult leader who exhibited the diagnostic criteria of severe and inflexible Narcissistic Personality Disorder.



    Extracts of Mr. van Nederveen's forthcoming book are already freely-available on his Website.


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    Ms.Tillotson's ill-advised lawsuit against her ex-husband has already attracted the attention of the media; particularly, Barrons Magazine. However, when the wider-evidence is examined, what she and her attorneys are doing, clearly constitutes a further attempt to obstruct justice and, again, it fits into an overall pattern of ongoing major racketeering activity (as defined by the US federal Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act, 1970, and clarified by subsequent US Supreme Court judgements).






    Mitt Romney Super PAC Raises $12 Million From Wealthy Donors

    One of the many, major beneficiaries of the 'NuSkin' racket who will be increasingly worried by this latest media interest, is, undoubtedly, Mitt Romney. Indeed, senior members of the Republican party must be monitoring this rapidly-developing 'Mormon/MLM' /Wall Street scandal. In fact, I can't be the only person beginning to wonder what odds might be available with a bookmaker on Mr. Romney suddenly coming up with a plausible excuse to withdraw from the forthcoming US Presidential election.


    That link has much more wonderful info. I hope her frivolous lawsuit will get Nu Skin the deluge of media needed to warn and inform the public of the horrific loss rate for the representatives.
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    Re: Adam Baker's Banned Book: "My Scandalous Life with a Billionaire Cougar" NuSkin's Sandie Tillotson

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    Nu Skin exec files defamation suit against ex-husband
    Deseret News - Monday, May 21 2012



    I tell you, looking at that photo, if that woman has one more facelift she's going to have to start shaving.
    According to Adam, she already has. Maybe that's why?
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    Very high volume and a huge drop in price.
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