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    Cathy Darnell Physical Therapist or Lying Scammer Complicit in Husband Tim Darnell's Shenanigans

    Is Cathy Darnell a dedicated physical therapist that has no involvement in her husband's shenanigans or is she in fact complicit?


    Report from the AC November 2007 Conference:
    Tim told ** that you stalk him, sit outside his house all hours of the night and watch his family, and that you have made death threats. He told ** that the speakers who backed out did so because you personally threatened them. He also told ** that they were planning to sue you and they had a iron-clad case against you and that Satan is attacking AC.
    From Footspteps of Folly (Faith):
    ...Say the name of Jesus in the marketplace. Do
    it consistently and watch the demons of hell come out from under the bogs and out of their comfortable cesspools, spewing hideous, wretched venom. Funny thing about those demons – they always prefer to work under the cover of darkness. They’re great at espionage and covert, cowardly hit and run tactics.
    But, boy, do they hate the light.

    We’ve encountered many of those demons on the
    Internet. They can hurl their lies and hate-filled accusations, saying virtually anything they want about True Believers, their number one targets, because they can denunciate and attempt to destroy with very little fear of reprisal. Virtually all choose to remain anonymous for fear of being exposed! They’ll also resort to other methods, like making phone calls to try to malign
    and destroy a Believer’s character, business, and reputation, the content of those messages and calls always being jaded, twisted, and oftentimes, malicious lies...

    On the Internet, lies are the essence and substance of the attacks. In my case, one such attacker, a Scambuster, has
    literally and physically stalked me and my top Representative, Jack Weinzierl, for over two years now....She’s made defaming my name and character, including several of our top business associates, a career path. I’m still mystified by her hatred and obsession, but it is indeed the reality we’ve experienced....

    This woman has physically followed us on multiple
    occasions, taken pictures of our homes, taken pictures of our vehicles (why – I have no idea), our families, and most noticeably, posted negative filth about my character and every move I’ve ever made in our Christ-centered business -
    all on a regular basis....

    Stalking (I naively thought that just occurred on
    television)

    Organized Attacks (misery loves company – get
    others involved in the hate fest).....

    Death Threats – oh, yeah, lot’s of bravado on the
    Internet!

    From Tim's first Opposition page:
    ....She has literally stalked me and our top
    Representatives...
    From Tim's e-mail to his reps October 2007:
    ...actually included her literal stalking of our
    homes, my attendance at recreational events, and our public conference
    events,
    From Tim's latest AC Opposition page:
    ...posting pictures of our top Rep’s homes and cars she
    “stealthfully” snapped at our events and at their home...yes, but also stalking.


    Tim Darnell filed a losing suit against me in June 2008. At the first hearing he was forced to admit under oath he was responsible for all these statements. If you were his wife Cathy and any of this was true wouldn't you have gone to the police and other law enforcement agencies in a desperate bid to protect your own children??? Tim and Cathy Darnell never went to the police. I turned myself in to the Allen, TX police and demanded they investigate and clear my name. The police cannot investigate unless the alleged victim reports the crime. Lying wench Cathy Darnell couldn't make a report because I have never threatened them. There is a penalty for making a false police report:

    WARNING: IT IS A CRIME TO MAKE A FALSE POLICE REPORT UNDER THE TEXAS PENAL CODE, SECTION 37.08.
    A FALSE REPORT IS PUNISHABLE AS A CLASS B MISDEMEANOR.
    Attachment 193

    Now, why would I be blaming Cathy Darnell for Tim's vicious lies. She came to the courthouse for the various cases we were tangled in and she sneered when asked about the slam site about me. She had a complete meltdown about my visit to their daughters' high school. Well, I signed in at the Allen High School office and went to the School Resource Officer's office and spoke with them and the principle. They had not been notified that Darnell's two daughters were being stalked or had received death threats, which any sane parent would do and the police would do if the threat weren't imaginary of course. The school agreed to help in any way if I needed to file suit against Cathy and Tim Darnell and needed teachers and students to answer subpoenas. They were shocked to see the threats I was accused of making since they had never been informed. Darnell whined about how I humiliated his children. Darnell's children were humiliated by his lies and nothing more. I will continue to raise this issue until Cathy and Tim Darnell retract and apologize for these vicious lies!

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    I’m still mystified by her hatred and obsession,
    That explains it.

    He IS narcissistic and/or sociopathic.

    He doesn't know what he's done wrong ???

    You have GOT to be kidding me.

    Has he ever apologized to ANY of his victims ???
    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing

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    Re: Cathy Darnell Physical Therapist or Lying Scammer Complicit in Husband Tim Darnell's Shenanigans

    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post
    That explains it.

    He IS narcissistic and/or sociopathic.

    He doesn't know what he's done wrong ???

    You have GOT to be kidding me.

    Has he ever apologized to ANY of his victims ???
    Tim Darnell knows no bounds. Cathy Darnell's mother also got tangled up in Tim Darnell's renouncing his citizenship. What better way to derail a legitimate court case against one then to jump up and renounce one's citizenship and even con one's own mother-in-law into joining in the sick deception and write a Affidavit in support of that? I hope they deny this clown his Social Security and Medicare as he is no longer a citizen!

    Tim Darnelll (Timothy Spencer Darnell) Non-citizen / Not a Texas Resident / Mary Lou Starnater Affiant

    What was Cathy Darnell thinking allowing Timmy to do that to her precious mother??? How utterly humiliating!

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    Re: Cathy Darnell Physical Therapist or Lying Scammer Complicit in Husband Tim Darnell's Shenanigans

    I would like to challenge Cathy Darnell to substantiate those hideous death threat and stalking allegations and tell us how wildly successful Advantage Conferences was. No doubt she can explain why the linked earnings claims resulted in 98% of the reps losing money and many out thousands of dollars while she was supporting the family working as a physical therapist. If the earnings were as great as Jack Weinzierl and Tim Darnell were claiming, why wasn't Cathy working full-time as an Advantage Conferences rep???

    Tim Darnell / Jack Weinzierl / Advantage Conferences Earnings Representations



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    Re: Cathy Darnell Physical Therapist or Lying Scammer Complicit in Husband Tim Darnell's Shenanigans

    Tim Darnell and Catherine / Cathy Starnater Darnell both sent to IRS Hell

    Tim Darnell and Catherine / Cathy Starnater Darnell both sent to IRS Hell

    Cathy Darnell should tell us more about their tax protester activities. She is on the $97,265.17 tax lien filed in January 2011, for their joint taxes for 2005.

    To quote her husband from the post he made that I archived here I guess his Marginal or Poor mental health always results in non-success.

    And of course my favorite Timmy quote:
    Likewise, when a household’s economy dips, blame and accusation flare against a spouse for his or her ineptness, stupidity, and lack of concern. The very subject of money becomes a source of contention, eliciting disgust and frustration.


    I bet so!!! Cathy sure knows how to pick 'em. How long will she stay on this Titanic with Timmy the tax protesting nutbag???

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    Love is not just physical attraction, although that’s a part of it. It’s more the determination to commit to each other for the long haul. It’s more the day-in, day-out unconditional trust, mutual consideration, and humble respect.
    Or so says Tim Darnell. His years of scamming and financial disasters show no respect for his wife Cathy and his children who have had to pay for college themselves. I am sure he is in daily prayer as he claims. He must be praying Cathy doesn't wake up and send him packing in a last ditch effort to save the home for her kids.

    Yikes!!!

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    Re: Cathy Darnell Physical Therapist or Lying Scammer Complicit in Husband Tim Darnell's Shenanigans

    Cathy Darnell's husband Tim wrote a hilarious piece of fluff while she was toiling away at her job and he was between golf games. Slay your Giant is beyond worthless, but really hilarious. Tim explains how he is psychologically unemployable and tells his readers:

    http://scottysgold.com/E-Books/SYG - Stephen Scott.pdf
    Your Giant is very likely something you created. In most cases, he’s something you’ve invited into your life of your own volition, your own choice. The good news is that he’s also someone you can invite “out” of your life. Although he easily wedged his way into your life, he will not be escorted out as easily. Whether easy or not, Your Giant is a problem, a huge hindrance; and once you decide that he absolutely does not need to be around, you must take decisive action......Let’s decisively move forward with resolve and excitement. It’s time to Slay Your Giant!....

    Truth is of paramount importance. Indeed, the truth will set you free....

    There is a very special place within your heart of hearts and your inmost being. It is a place that is known to you, though you may have dismissed the thought of going there for years. This is truly your personal dream place; and yet, it is as real as the words in front of you at this very moment. It is the place of your destiny. Your Inner Champion has longed to go there for many years, simply because it is your rightful, God-given destination.
    I call that place New Home. New Home is the true place you deserve to inhabit, the place you belong – that special, personal place of greater freedom, independence, fulfillment, effectiveness and autonomy. It is a place full of greater rewards than you’ve ever experienced in your life. New Home is the intuitive ideal of what your perfect life can and should look like....

    My thinking and the way I’m wired have always disposed me to being psychologically unemployable. I believe in personal independence as a way of life, and have always treasured being my own boss, being in charge of my time, and having the ability to create an unceilinged income based on my production......

    Losing a business takes no small toll on a person. I wouldn’t wish what I and my family went through on anyone. A failed business affects a person mentally, emotionally, and even physically. Non-stop, intense stress will actually make you look different, and not for the better. I vividly remember looking into the bathroom mirror and being startled to see a significantly aged, gaunt, ashen face of a man I barely recognized. Was that Tim Darnell in the mirror? Whoa!
    But there were other signs of the stress I was facing. A business failure can cause you to start losing things. For instance, after looking at that remarkably changed face in the mirror that particular morning, I glanced around the bathroom to discover we were out of body wash, deodorant, toothpaste, and lo and behold – toilet paper! How low could we go?.....

    Some of your Giants may not be a habit or vice, and they may also take human form....

    Your Giant loves for you to not recognize him. He can more easily wreak havoc in your life if you’re not willing to admit he exists....

    Giants (enemies) can be some of your closest acquaintances who have publicly and to you personally avowed allegiance and support. But beware: behind your back, their intentions, words, and actions can be anything but supportive. The reality of the matter is that they in no way are looking out for your best interest, and actually intend to do you harm.....

    I really pray that you are outraged about what this Giant has caused you to miss in your life.
    Disgust and outrage are actually God-given indicators that need to be heeded.....

    Now, I know those of you whose Giant is another person are asking, “Do I have to kill that person?” Obviously the answer to that is, “NO, not at all!” We’re talking about eliminating the One Single Thing, the Giant, the issue or obstacle in your life with a powerful solution, not killing a person. We’re talking about distancing your self from the obstacle once and for all.....

    You’ve got to toughen up. You’ve got to face reality. You’ve got to decide that Your Giant must be eliminated, period, with no exceptions. Allowing Your Giant to be part of your life can no longer be an option. You must take charge, and you must plan to GET HIM OUT OF YOUR LIFE once and for all. There is no room for gray. This is only black and white here. Your Giant must go. It is the most important action required for your move into New Home....
    I think the name of Cathy Darnell's giant is quite apparent. When is she going to slay Tim?? She is likely well on her way to new home thanks to his tax protester shenanigans. Is she going to continue to support him? How can she continue to expose her kids to Tim's blatant lies and serial scamming???

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    Re: Cathy Darnell Physical Therapist or Lying Scammer Complicit in Husband Tim Darnell's Shenanigans

    Cathy's husband Tim Darnell just doesn't know when to stick a sock in it. The serial failure has plenty more comedic Gems in his book Slay Your Giant. He and Cathy thought their way to pauperdom and IRS hell, a hell which never ends.

    Your income is a result of your thinking, plain and simple; and it can and should be much greater than what you have experienced in the past. Stated another way, your thinking, perceptions and mindset have placed you squarely in the income bracket you now find yourself. There’s nothing magical about where you are now. You’ve thought your way to that level....

    When you accept the statement that you can think your way to higher income levels, then you will progressively think your way into the reality of a greatly improved, New Home financial condition.....all of the money on earth belongs to God, and that having money is simply a test for each of us as to how we handle it during our lifetime.......

    “Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter. Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes and clever in their own sight.” Isaiah 5:20-21....

    I say, “take the time to envision what can be better about your life and determine to make that new vision your reality.”.....

    You don’t have to accept mediocrity. You don’t have to be complacent. No, you can change your life amazingly for the better if you’ll recognize the limitations of Old Home and the joy and reward of moving to New Home!!!
    The Right Thing
    Old Home Outrage is one reason to move to New Home – the “negative conditions” reason.....

    The fact is: if you haven’t conquered your Giant, you have been serving your Giant. You may have never thought there was any other way to live your life other than being in submission to Your Giant, but there is a better way. It’s time you toughen your stance on Your Giant. It’s time your Giant is eradicated. You aren’t going to negotiate or compromise your way out of the fight and finality of KILLING YOUR GIANT!....

    At our most recent Millionaire Mindset Treasures for the Kingdom Conference in Orlando, Florida, where we invite six Christian Millionaires and Multi-Millionaires to bare their souls through their story, wisdom and advice, a single commonality became clearly apparent. The greatest mistakes that each of these highly successful individuals had made in their entrepreneurial journeys were all the result of NOT PRAYING about the specific issue that later wreaked havoc in their business life.....

    Not Surrendering Everything
    to Jesus Christ Was My Giant!
    That’s right. I’ll say it again: I finally figured out that I, and my not allowing God to fully take control of my life, was my own Giant.
    Just think Cathy, your new home might be a park bench thanks to that rambling idiot! God must be absolutely sure Timmy is an idiot as He doesn't entrust him with money. Tim may pretend to pray, but obviously, looking at his colossal failures he only hears what he wants to hear and acts with no regard for the welfare of his children. I would beg to disagree with Tim. In my humble opinion his giant is his incredible dishonesty and unwillingness to work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim Darnell
    Losing a business takes no small toll on a person. I wouldn’t wish what I and my family went through on anyone. A failed business affects a person mentally, emotionally, and even physically. Non-stop, intense stress will actually make you look different, and not for the better. I vividly remember looking into the bathroom mirror and being startled to see a significantly aged, gaunt, ashen face of a man I barely recognized.
    Ahhhh, NOW I get it.

    We're supposed to feel sorry for Timmy and forget about his victims.........GOT IT

    Next thing we know, Darnell will have Andy Bowdoin as a guest speaking about how it feels to lose a multi million dollar "business"
    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing

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    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post
    Ahhhh, NOW I get it.

    We're supposed to feel sorry for Timmy and forget about his victims.........GOT IT

    Next thing we know, Darnell will have Andy Bowdoin as a guest speaking about how it feels to lose a multi million dollar "business"
    Darnell is incredibly upset and traumatized when one business after another implodes, but never seems to grasp the destruction and horrific suffering in his wake. In just Advantage Conferences 98% of the reps lost money. Many of them lost thousands and thousands of dollars they could not afford to lose. Those that joined at the top level could esaily be out more than $20,000.00. One rep was thrown out by his wife and that pastor attempted suicide. I buried another rep who was forced into bankruptcy because of AC that we have taekn in as she would have landed on the street without us. Many more went without food and / or lost their homes, so Tim and Cathy's self centered diatribes and vicious attacks on me just completely turn my stomach.

    I will continue to do everything in my power to see the Darnells cannot harm any more innocent trusting victims. Cathy melted in one of our run ins in the courthouse about how everyone got the conference they paid for. What a joke. That conference was a fig leaf cover for an obvious pyramid scheme as the BBB discerned and proved in court. Not to mention the Darnells involement in Global Prosperity which sent folks to prison for tax evasion and 3 more conference scams. I can't wait for the IRS to enforce the tax liens and / or garnish Cathy's salary so she might finally be able to understand what the victims have suffered.

    These scammers claim they will help you amplify your financial situation. It must perpetually be opposite day at the Darnell home!

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    Re: Cathy Darnell Physical Therapist or Lying Scammer Complicit in Husband Tim Darnell's Shenanigans

    The most laughable part of the book is Darnell discussing the Not Enough Money Giant. That has been Darnell's problem perpetually. Now he is claiming he can solve the problem he is in 985 of the cases going to exacerbate. This is complete lunacy!!

    NEM Giant
    For instance, if constant financial pressure is Your Giant (the Not Enough Money Giant), I have good news for you – you can create a much larger income and be much more productive in your financial life than ever before. You simply need to be taught how. When you consciously choose to be mentored by people who are accomplished “money people”, millionaires in their own right, or experts in the particular field in which you are working, you can find out how they think and act. Modeling their thoughts and lives will allow you to do the same things, and accomplish even greater things than they have!
    Most of us are woefully educated in money matters. In 17 years of public schooling, I was never once even taught to balance a
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    check-book. Whenever I mention that fact in public speeches, I receive near unanimous agreement each time.
    If you want to be a great singer, you’ve got to think and act like a great singer. You’ve got to rehearse and learn music like great singers do. If you want to be a great coach, you need to study the lives of great coaches. You’ve got to learn their mindset and their language.
    If you want to be a hundred thousandaire or a millionaire, you’ve got to think like people who are in that position. Be creative, use your ingenuity, but also spend time finding and scrutinizing successful mentors’ paths. You will want to inspect details about their successes; and you can also learn extremely important pointers from the mistakes that they have made.
    Your thinking brought you to your current financial situation. It wasn’t your circumstances, your parents, or misfortune that is to blame. No, it’s all your responsibility. The good news is that your thinking can take you to a new, more abundant financial situation. One of our central premises is that you should be more resourceful in your life. You shouldn’t just “get by.” That is a very selfish way to look at life.
    If you want to be a millionaire, then you must learn to think and act like a millionaire. Your thinking will eventually manifest into reality. If you change your thinking, you can change your reality – You Can Change Your Life!
    God is infinite. He is unlimited. He is abundant. That is why you don’t want to short-change your life by thinking it’s all you. We humans are finite, limited, and “Scared City” thinkers without God. With God in our life, we are empowered to do more, be more, give more, and serve more.
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    Did I mention this buffoon fancies himself a great singer. He claims to have sold 1 million albums, but not one can be found online. They were self published for the most part. And, as we all know he keeps attending millionaire mindset conferences (those started in 2002) and yet he repeatedly has thought his way to pauperdom and business demise. I am proud to be in scared city with the honest hard working people in the real world. I know all about Darnell's thingking, lies and vicious personal attacks. His so called musical career to his claim of being a highly successful entrepreneur, to his claim of being an experienced reputation management specialist well versed in legal issues, to financial planner, to marketing guru and on and on are all silly little fantasies in his own tiny little devious mind.

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    Re: Cathy Darnell Physical Therapist or Lying Scammer Complicit in Husband Tim Darnell's Shenanigans

    Quote Originally Posted by Darnell
    If you want to be a great singer, you’ve got to think and act like a great singer.
    And THAT'S where these new age fraudsters go completely wrong.

    Thinking and acting EXACTLY like "a great singer" will NOT make you a great singer.

    That's what "gurus" do, take a truth, extract a minor contributing factor, bastardize it, put it out of context and claim it as being a reason for buying what they're selling.

    Put simply, "singing" is not "becoming rich" and "thinking and acting" like either one of them gets you absolutely nothing.

    Darnell and "gurus" like him, all IMPLY that anyone can have or become whatever they want, and, as much as we'd all like to believe it, they simply can't.

    The USA has a current population of 310+ MILLION people.

    If they all "thought and acted" like real singers, then what ??

    Every one of them is equally talented/genetically gifted ??

    That's the one thing about dealing with humans that IS an absolute, irrefutable "truth"

    There IS no single absolute truth.
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    Re: Cathy Darnell Physical Therapist or Lying Scammer Complicit in Husband Tim Darnell's Shenanigans

    Tim, the Tool, has been wildly jumping and dumping one MLM scam after another. While his wife slaves away at her job, he is promoting worthless scam after worthless scam while playing golf, bragging about being his own man and spending the family into financial ruin. The only question now is who will get castle Darnell first. The IRS could foreclose on their $97,265.17 cent lien or garnish Cathy's salary (necessitated by the Darnell's tax protester shenanigans), or the taxing districts may foreclose on it to satisfy delinquent property taxes.


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    Re: Cathy Darnell Physical Therapist or Lying Scammer Complicit in Husband Tim Darnell's Shenanigans

    Cathy Darnell is one deeply disturbed lady as we can see from the false death threat and stalking allegations she is behind and of course the tax evasion scheme with her scammer husband. In addition, there was a hideous slam site about me that as I mentioned she found quite amusing. The Allen, TX police investigated that as a felonious criminal act until the court in Collin Cointy accidentally leaked news of the investigation to the Darnells. At that point I had no choice but to sue Tim Darnell civilly to get that lie-filled trash removed. Cathy Darnell became very threatening and menacing toward me in court during that case. It was so serious that the Bailiff asked me to wait with him until the Darnells were long gone and then escorted me out an entrance not used by the public to keep me safe from that Darnell woman.

    As we were all under a gag order in the case filed by the elderly representative defrauded in Advantage Conferences I could not discuss all this until recently. Why Cottonwood Creek Baptist Church allows these dishonest and menacing goons to host a youth group in their home is a pressing question.

    Heather Dobrott vs. Tim Darnell Serial Scammer

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    Re: Cathy Darnell Physical Therapist or Lying Scammer Complicit in Husband Tim Darnell's Shenanigans

    The sleazebag, toilet paper borrowing Darnells are once again spending money (presumably on their credit cards) that they will never be able to pay. The whole clan is out spending the week at a ski resort according to my spies. With $113,000.00 in IRS tax liens and over $12,000.00 owed in delinquent property tax for which they have a lawsuit to foreclose the lien on their home, one would think they would be desperately trying to hang on to their home. But, the Darnells have lied and snaked their way through life and are so deluded they probably think they can keep spending money they don't have and evading their taxes.

    The bigger the fat head the harder they fall theory will be at work. The taxing district, the IRS and angry defrauded reps are all after these clowns. The only question is who will take these scammers out first. All the hard working Americans out there who do honestly pay their taxes and credit card bills need to file a complaint with the IRS. They had $200,000.00 in credit card debt in 2005 and wrote most of it off paying pennies on the dollar.They are once again likely abusing his credit cards which means higher interest rates and charges for all of us out there.

    The honest people who pay their bills are likely not at the luxury ski resort with these tax protesters and tax evaders and serial scammers.

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    Maybe a nice avalanche will finally put an end to the Darnells' scamming! The attorney handling the property tax suit has all this and more and I will forward it all to the IRS as well!

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    The Darnell tax evaders and non-citizens should be taking this more seriously. I for one will not sit idly by while they live the millionaire lifestyle while the rest of us pay our taxes and live within our means.

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    No doubt Cathy Darnell can explain this lie-filled tripe her husband used to sucker in trusting recruits:
    Tim Darnell wrote:
    Serious Question of Ethics: I find it unconscionable that companies promote an income opportunity at which the overwhelming majority of people fail. The people who are exceptions to this statement (those who do succeed) comprise such a small percentage that it is a blatant misrepresentation for a company to parade their "stud's" success in front of the unsuspecting public and say the oportunity is for everybody...I will tell you that arriving at this model has not been easy and has come about at no small price (literally millions of dollars and years out of my life).
    Please allow me to introduce the Advantage Conferences stud:
    Jack Weinzierl claimed:
    $762,245.50 in 23 Months (January 2007)
    In March 2006 after just over a year in the business Jack claimed he had raked in $544,000 from his unsuspecting recruits. Things must have been slowing down drastically as he made only $218,245.50 in the 10 months between March 2006 to January 2007. His current figure and final figure is over 800,000. He is one of 3 reps (MMC-IVs) to exceed the $100,000.00 dollar mark. Over half the reps (350 or so of about 700) have purchased an MMC-IV President's Package for $10,000.00. Only five more of those MMC-IVs broke even in this deal. Many have lost around $20,000.00 or much much more.

    98% of all the reps lost money as verified in the court papers when nutbag, Tim Darnell, filed suit againt the BBB on behalf of Advantage Conferences. Since there were no retail sale (outside 1 with mitigating circumstances Darnell claimed had occured) it is no mystery why this was adjudicated to be a pyramid scheme. 98% failure rate means the overwhelming majority lost money, scammers!!!

    Now, I think Cathy Darnell should provide proof of those millions of dollars Timmy spent coming up with this dishonest business model. Tim has never had any money. People borrowing toilet paper from the neighbors with hundreds of thousands in credit card debt would never have had millions of dollars to spend on cooking up one of his numerous failed scams and schemes. Document it Cathy. Lies, lies, lies Timmy and Cathy. All lies!!!!!


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