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    Freelancer - Warning!! Ripoff!

    If you are a free lancer please do your homework before signing up with freelancer.com

    There are 1,000's of complaints all over the internet about the company and agents who have completed their assignments but do not receive compensation for what they have done because their account is suddenly "Frozen".


    BEWARE OF FREELANCER.COM


    There are a number of reputable companies with which freelance authors can do business. But I’m about to tell you a tale about one such company that has proved NOT to be. Please note that all experiences related here are my own and may or may not reflect other users’ experiences. However, I would strongly urge anyone contemplating using the company in question as a way of generating revenue to be VERY careful in their dealings.

    After doing some homework, I thought Freelancer.com - Hire Freelancers & Find Freelance Jobs Online looked like a legitimate company with decent payouts. There was even a chance I could make a decent living doing three jobs a month for that place! I set up my account, started bidding on jobs…and I scored one! The job was a $600 contract, to be performed within ten days of receipt of the materials I needed. This appeared to be a good deal, so I jumped on it.

    Within ten seconds, the account balance on my dashboard showed that I owed them $60, representing a 10% commission on the order price. Okay, I thought. As long as the client pays up, no problem.

    However, days went by. And became weeks. No word from the client, no project materials, no payment. I wrote an email to the client; no answer. I wrote an email to Freelancer; standard “we’re looking into it and we’ll get back to you” reply, but no further follow-up.

    All this came to a head earlier today. After almost a month of no response from the nominal client, I received an email from Freelancer

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    Hi Great hub JasonLicerioPH! I am very glad that everybody is aware. My account got also suspended just recently for fixing my friends account suspension. We have suspended both for transferring funds with out any project related. We admit the violation twice and we are trying to fix everything because I still have $100 + $300 milestone for my 2 ongoing projects there, (now unfortunately my Employer disputed the $250 because of my account suspension). However my friend's account was suspended for almost 5 months with $177 and $250 milestone funds. We are trying to fixed everything but the support@freelancer.com sucks! - They might be a scam or not, but freelancer.com is hurting people. Freezing or "STEALING" our funds (which we have worked hard to earn for more than a month) without any mercy. Guys we have already a team (113 people with the same case) to fight out against them and relieve the truth. Let's see a few more months if they still do the same way. please kindly contact our leader to fight these out -- ... TO all with same experience like we had, you are not alone. email us -- epsurv@gmail.com or juliusgalvez12@gmail.com --- or you can seek help and send complaints to ---- http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/investigate/cyber/cybe --- and ---- Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3) | Home

    How to Avoid Scam on Freelancer.com

    Freelancer.com has the worse staff and "customer support", if it can be called a "customer support", the staff is VERY rude, totally unprofessional, you can open a ticked and wait untill you die for an answer or you can receive a copy-paste stupid answer. They have the WORSE customer support I EVER seen!!! Also they have A LOT of cases where they "block" users accounts which have quite a lot of money and steal all the money. Don't use freelancer.com!!!

    Of course in most cases there is a reply from emir just as we got here in RS and what we are understanding to just be a generic reply to most complaints written about freelancer.com

    Come on back to RealScam Matt Barrie and give us your reasons why so many complaints about your company!!
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    I'm a motion graphics designer and animator. I'm going to share with you my experience with the site freelancer.com and let you decide and judge for yourself.
    I've been a user of this site since the year 2006, back when it was called getafreelancer.com, I had never had any issues with it whatsoever and I was always able to work and get paid. I have reviews in the site all from different users for projects of different sizes.
    I don't use the website all of the time because I have other sources of work. It had been a while since I didn't use it but by the end of 2011 I decided I wanted to star bidding on projects again. I bid on this Marketing video project that I thought fit my skills and sent the employer a link to my portfolio.
    I got a personal e-mail from the employer. I know according to freelancer's terms of services that there should be no private communication before the job is awarded. But I can't help it if the client likes my portfolio and finds a way to contact me on the internet by googling my name or my company name.
    We got in touch and we agreed to start the project. We could've done it outside freelancer.com but as I've never had any reason not to trust this site, I decided I felt safer if we used the milestone feature. So I was awarded the project, and paid the corresponding fees for a project this size, which in this case was about 100 dollars.
    Everything seemed ok, we agreed upon a set of goals, because it was a long project that consisted of three quite long videos. For each one of the goals the employer would do a milestone payment. So the project delayed quite a bit because the employer had to source some assets like voice over, testimonial videos, work on the script, etc, which take some time. As I delivered the storyboard, the first video roughs, etc, I received a series of partial payments and I decided to keep the money on the site until a considerable amount was accumulated. When I had about two thousand five hundred dollars in the site, it was time to withdraw. In case you don't know, this website requires that you make a withdrawal request and wait for it to be processed in order to send you money, this can take up to more than a week.
    So I made a withdrawal request for one thousand two hundred dollars.
    The day after I did this request I got an email saying that my account had been suspended, and I didn't have access to anything else than the support system. I had an account with two thousand five hundred dollars and suddenly I couldn't even log in to it. They didn't provide a reason or issue any warning before suspending the account.
    My employer contacted me saying that he'd also had his account suspended. At that time I wasn't very alarmed, I thought it'd be some verification and everything was going to be ok soon.
    In the email sent by freelancer.com support it said that I had to verify y identity by clicking on a link, I clicked on it and it took me to a page where I had to upload a copy of my ID. I did so because I trusted the site, but I waited for about two days and my account was still suspended. I opened a ticket in the support system and asked them what was going on. They said that they acknowledged that I had uploaded my ID but that it was not enough. And they wanted me to give them a full description of the project and send them a picture of myself holding the ID in one hand and a paper with a code in the other. I did everything they asked for.
    Once I've done that, they asked me how we had communicated, and questioned that we were using private means like skype or personal email. No explanation why, because in the user agreement it says clearly that you CAN make direct contact with another user if it's for a project you've been picked for. Which is exactly the case. They also asked how did we get our direct contact information. I replied that the employer had found my email address by his own means and therefore I wasn't violating any terms. I also noticed that even though in their website help in the "HOW TO HIRE" article, in the section "Project Start" it says clearly to buyers that "When a freelancer accepts a project, Freelancer.com will send your contact information to the provider and the provider's to you".
    So I said, wait a moment! According to this, I should have the contact information of the buyer in the email that was sent to me once we started the project. So I checked my emails and surprise! They don't send that information anymore, even though that procedure is still in their help documents.

    After my account had been suspended for almost 10 days I was starting to get really nervous. I was in touch with the employer, I trusted him because he had paid the milestones as we had agreed. We both were very upset about this situation and we thought it'd be best if he disputed the funds and try to pay me by other means. After he started a dispute with paypal , I receive a message from freelancer.com saying that they had enabled my account.
    I was sort of happy, I said, well, these guys don't want to keep my money after all!
    But then I created a withdrawal request in order to get the funds. Once the request was in place, I waited two days for it to be processed. After two days, when I checked the state of the request, I found it was blank. Nothing.
    My employer had already started the dispute for the last payment of a thousand dollars, so they took that money out of my account. Since my request was for two thousand five hundred dollars and now I only had one thousand five hundred dollars then I thought they cancelled it because it surpassed what I had in the account at the time. So I did a new request for one thousands five hundred dollars.
    After two days, the request was deleted. Again.
    Then I sent a support ticket again and asked them what was going on.
    They replied that since my employer's account was still suspended, I wasn't able to withdraw funds from my account because they were concerned about the "security of the funds".
    I replied that I couldn't force the employer to comply and if he didn't want to send more ID's or whatever, it was none of my business, if they were so concerned about the security of the funds, why didn't they refund everything to him so he can pay me by other means.
    They surprised me saying that it wasn't a problem for them to reimburse the funds to the employer.
    I replied, ok, go ahead.
    Then I got an email saying "we have reversed all the payments to your employer". Ok I thought! Now it's solved! I asked the employer if the money was in his paypal account already. He sent me a screenshot of his paypal balance showing that there was no money on it.
    I asked them, "When will the money be on his paypal balance?"
    They replied that they were sorry but that they couldn't process the refund, that they still required that the employer's account be re activated.

    The end of this story is that after more than a month of contacting the support system and threatening them with legal actions, we got them to revert all payments and all fees to the client's paypal account, and fortunately the client was able to pay me by other means. Luckily he agreed to do this before the funds were in his account, otherwise I would have had to wait for at least one more month.

    This things make me suspicious of freelancer.com keeping or delaying the money withdrawal of relatively big amounts in order to take an advantage, I wonder:

    Why do they get concerned about security JUST when you have a considerable amount of money in your account and JUST when you're about to withdraw it?

    Why instead of warning you they just SUSPEND your account?

    Why don't they check all user's identity before the projects are even posted instead of when the project is quite advanced and there is money in the system?

    Why do they get so picky about identity when in their terms and conditions at point 8.3 they say they don't verify user's identities?

    Would you be willing to work with a website that handles things like this?
    Would you trust a site that withholds funds earned from your hard work?

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    Thank you Mycroplasma for joining and posting your story here. I do want to add another comment you made:

    Also freelancer.com is starting to buy all the other freelance companies, soon there will be no options! We have to fight it!

    We need to try and make sure that does not happen!!
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    Especially not on a fake magazine cover

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    Freelancer.com withholds my money

    mycoplasma started the above thread 5/15/2012 we really need to get this exposed, people are being ripped off and freelancer.com is stashing the money these people have earned and blocking their accounts. Could we get some more action in here by RS members??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whip View Post
    Especially not on a fake magazine cover
    Thanks Whip! It seems there are a lot of fake things about Matt Barrie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scratchycat View Post
    Freelancer.com withholds my money

    mycoplasma started the above thread 5/15/2012 we really need to get this exposed, people are being ripped off and freelancer.com is stashing the money these people have earned and blocking their accounts. Could we get some more action in here by RS members??
    Where does the story start "scratchy?" It is a bit like watching a film and trying to get the gist of it when you missed the beginning. I will read mycoplasma's posts in more detail after I have cooked my dinner.

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    Re: Freelancer - Warning!! Ripoff!

    Well, we have 3 threads now.
    Freelancer.com withholds my money

    another I can't remember and this one. I believe it started in May 2012 when mycoplasma posted the one above.
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    Re: Freelancer - Warning!! Ripoff!

    Another blog by person scammed by Freelancer.com

    Freelancer.com Scam Artist 2012

    I hope you found this post by typing ”Freelancer.com Scam” into Google! I want you to know that you’re not alone. I think Freelancer.com is the biggest scam/fraudulent website I have ever dealt with. The freelancers on the website are semi okay, but the owners of Freelancer.com act like crooks. I have no idea how that website is still in business.



    Here’s a quick story of what happened to me. I signed up for a Freelancer.com account, posted my first job, got about 11 bids (10 of those bids were clearly scam automated responses) but 1 guy was cool!

    So I hired the cool guy, but I had to make a deposit into the Freelancer account to get things going.

    The minimum deposit for the job was $30, and it’s supposed to go into an alleged “Escrow” account. The money is to be held there until the hired freelancer completes the job. First off, Freelancer.com charges you an extra $1.01 for a processing fee, so I ended up paying $31.01..not a big deal.

    About a week later, I get an email from Freelancer.com saying that my account has a negative balance for the job posted. Turns out these scam artist have a hidden fee of $3 for every job that you post. So my $30 deposit was now $27!

    I find that strange because they said I could post my first job for FREE..which I did! But as soon as I made a deposit, I guess they decided it wasn’t free anymore and stole an extra $3…eh still not a big deal.

    Anyways, almost 2 months past and the Freelancer that I hired never completed the job. (He said he could complete the job in 4 days, so he had more than enough time! I was patient right?) The Freelancer I hired eventually just cancelled the job which means I should be able to get my deposit back..right? After all, the money is in Escrow.. allegedly.

    Read more, there are well over 230 complaints against the company in one blog!
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    Let's take a look at the real Matt Barrie.

    He is a real party person and lover of sexy women. Spending those fortunes made by not paying people for the work they have done.

    https://www.facebook.com/mattbarrie

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    Timeline photos

    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Sexy-...56608731145276

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    He loves those sexy girls, wonder if he gets to party with any of them??


    https://www.facebook.com/mattbarrie/...tes#!/abcqanda

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    The person on FB claims female gender but it is the real Matt Barrie of Freelancer.com. The magazine cover is photoshopped but I cannot verify if it is a legit magazine or not. Anyone else know? This guy is a real rich loser.

    How do you think he would do in a courtroom defending his activities with freelancer.com?? Oh course they have the high-powered attorneys to represent him and I know nothing of Australian law. He has sent out letters and emails of Cease and Desist to several people complaining about the company. They are being threatened.
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    Well the magazine is legit, cover probably not. I did not see a cover like that one but there are lots of them!

    Oh look they have a FB page also:

    https://www.facebook.com/GoodWeekendMagazine

    About Good Weekend
    Named Newspaper Magazine of the Year in 2010, Good Weekend is Australia’s premier newspaper-inserted magazine and continues to set the benchmark for excellence in Australian journalism.
    Every Saturday, Good Weekend is inserted into Australia’s most well respected newspapers, The Sydney Morning Herald and The Age – a must read for 1.48 million Australians in two major states.

    A confident leader in the inserted magazine market, Good Weekend offers a rare balance found in no other magazine; an even male/female readership and a mass reaching vehicle with premium appeal. Delivering a dedicated, loyal and reliable reader base, Good Weekend is regularly invited into the sanctuary of the weekend, offering advertisers a unique opportunity to play a part in our readers’ weekend routine.

    Now with a fresh new look and revamped editorial Good Weekend continues to remain a relevant and trusted source of information for our readers.

    Click here to view Good Weekend's Media Kit.

    http://www.adcentre.com.au/good-weekend.aspx

    Wonder if they know Matt Barrie is flashing this picture around?
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    Quote Originally Posted by scratchycat View Post
    Timeline photos

    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Sexy-...56608731145276

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    He loves those sexy girls, wonder if he gets to party with any of them??
    For around 2k an hour anyone can party with such girls..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scratchycat
    I know nothing of Australian law. He has sent out letters and emails of Cease and Desist to several people complaining about the company. They are being threatened.
    Cease and desist WHAT, Mr Barrie ??

    Telling the truth ???

    Offering an opinion ??

    The problem with many of these celebrity business leaders is they start believing their own publicity and imagine themselves to be untouchable.

    It may be fashionable to think of Australia as some backward, out of the way place, but I can assure readers that is not the case.

    Cease and desist letters in Australia are just that, "letters"

    Letters which anyone who can afford to pay can have sent out by his/her/their legal representatives.

    They carry no legal weight at all.

    In fact, should Mr Barrie and Freelancer decide to follow through with their threats, I am in no doubt the internet would have no compunction at all in responding with a complete exposure of the Freelancer practices described both here and on the countless blogs which are already on the Freelancer case.

    I am also in no doubt Freelancers' policy of requiring identity verification by means of "someone/anyone" holding up a card will be the subject of endless ridicule when and if it becomes general knowledge.

    Add in the hundreds of same/similar complaints currently circulating on the 'net regarding non payment for ridiculous reasons AND the fact 'netizens are notoriously reluctant to accept being bullied by anyone, and I can but imagine the outcome for both Mr Barrie and Freelancer.

    Far be it for me to lecture anyone as "famous and well connected" as Mr Barrie or his Freelancer businesses, but, surely it would be far easier and more productive to fix the problem/s at the source instead of unleashing a shi*****m of unwanted publicity ??

    Freelancers' "identity verification" procedures, customer service, complaint and payment procedure services are demonstrably inefficient on occasion.

    No amount of bullying via "cease and desist" letters can change that and no amount of "cease and desist" letters can remove anyones' right to point out the fact thay are.

    "Cease and Desist" THAT, Freelancer lawyers, who ever you are
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    I wonder if the magazine editor for Good Weekend would be interested in doing a story on Freelancer.com and all their customer service problems and issues? With the circulation it gets, I'm sure that would get the attention of Freelancer.com and Barrie. I think it would be harder for Barrie to snow the reporter who would do the story on how these issues are being dealt with and resolved. Might make them actually refund the money to try and save face. Just a thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EagleOne View Post
    Might make them actually refund the money to try and save face. Just a thought.
    Just a thought but a very good thought Eagle. Good journalists are worth their weight in gold.

    I have just finished reading Kate Adie's autobiography. It is called "The Kindness of Strangers." It is well worth reading the book. Her reports from places like Tianamen Square and the 1991 Gulf War countries are evidence of how much support complete strangers do give to those who are brave enough to try to bring the eyes of the world to trouble spots.

    Perhaps this Australian paper can show us that there are competent journalists covering cyberspace stories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by okosh View Post
    For around 2k an hour anyone can party with such girls..
    Yes, but using your client's money to hire these party girls should be a crime, don't you think?

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    LRM, this should be a great relief to Chaim and others to hear this. I hope some of the ones being threatened will join us here, some already have and hopefully they have read your statements.

    Thank you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by EagleOne View Post
    I wonder if the magazine editor for Good Weekend would be interested in doing a story on Freelancer.com and all their customer service problems and issues? With the circulation it gets, I'm sure that would get the attention of Freelancer.com and Barrie. I think it would be harder for Barrie to snow the reporter who would do the story on how these issues are being dealt with and resolved. Might make them actually refund the money to try and save face. Just a thought.
    It is a wonderful thought Eagle and maybe we can get their attention to do this. I am sure Karol appreciates your information here and I appreciate your support.
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    Thank you P2P for joining in and it certainly is a great idea to contact this magazine. I could not yet find (time limited here) if the magazine actually did an article on Matt Barrie. We will find out soon I am sure.
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    Chaim could contact BBC World Service to ask for help. On the other hand somebody like Eagle who already contributes to radio and TV programmes could ask for their assistance in exposing the biggest International fraud that he has encountered to date.

    BBC World Radio and TV

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    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post
    Cease and desist letters in Australia are just that, "letters"

    Letters which anyone who can afford to pay can have sent out by his/her/their legal representatives.

    They carry no legal weight at all.
    Spot on.....C&D letters mean nothing here in Aus....Clearly Mr Barrie been watching too much American shows on TV.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by scratchycat View Post
    Yes, but using your client's money to hire these party girls should be a crime, don't you think?

    Thanks for your support.
    Does it really matter where a crook spends the money they stole??....All that matters is that it's stolen money...
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