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    Mike Melvin And Tim Darnell Desperately Push Advantage Conferences Pyramid Scheme

    Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 20:03:03 -0700
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    Dear Soapbox mom, I think you just saved me $7000. I just got my check that I withdrew for AC with tim darnell and Mike Melvin, both who profess to have this fabulous business, yet they would never give me any details. I just spent an hr. reading your website and all I can say is THANK YOU AND GOD BLESS YOU for having the courage to stand up against thes thieves in Devil's clothing. Any new updates??? Thanks Joy
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    Re: Mike Melvin And Tim Darnell Desperately Push Advantage Conferences Pyramid Scheme

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    Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 23:58:58 -0400

    Joy,

    Bless you for seeking out the truth and making the right choice for yourself. Thank you for letting me know my site was informative. I am happy your money was mentored back into your own account. I will continue the good fight renewed by yet another day that folks were protected from this scam by the truth.

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    Re: Mike Melvin And Tim Darnell Desperately Push Advantage Conferences Pyramid Scheme

    Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 21:16:48 -0700
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    Hi, I never gave them my money, but they sure don't care for Heather - who is she and why is she mad at AC and was she or you an AC rep?? who lost money -you or someone you know?? They are still trying to convince me that they are right and Heather is just against Christians, other TV preachers also. Thanks so much for responding to all my queries and questions, Joy
    So thrilled that she didn't lose thousands of dollars to those scamming goons. Mike Melvin is still buddying around with Jack Weinzierl and Tim Darnell from what I hear. Scamming sleazbags stick together! They would have happily taken her money knowing she was virtually guaranteed to lose it and would have to rip off at least 4 more warm marks to recover her money. Joy was smart enough to check out the clowns and get the facts. Kudos to her!

    Soapboxmom / Heather

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    Re: Mike Melvin And Tim Darnell Desperately Push Advantage Conferences Pyramid Scheme

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    Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 00:52:00 -0400

    Dear Joy,

    I am a homeschooling stay at home mom with a college degree. I was constantly hit up to buy MLM stuff like books, toys, make-up, kitchen ware and electricity etc. All but one of the many that were doing these MLMs lost money and quit. I became an active member of Quatloos.com and educated myself about the math and legal issues involved so I could share important information with others. I want everyone to have the facts to make an informed decision for themsleves.

    Heather Dobrott is my real name. Soapboxmom and Elizabeth Templin are what I used to post anonymously early in my career as a scambuster. I was never an AC rep, but was invited to blog about it by a family member of a rep that was desperately trying to get them out. I have never attacked religion or Christianity in any way. I think it is truly sickening that AC uses faith to draw folks in and then blames folks lack of faith when they lose thousands of dollars in this pyramid scheme. I want to protect Christians and all consumers. I have befriended numerous ex reps that have been through home sales, sold possessions, hunger, pawning belongings, credit card debt, foreclosure and bankruptcy. I will fight the good fight until no other reps will be conned out of their money and suffer financial devastation like that.

    Tim Darnell sued the Dallas Better Business Bureau and lost. I have all the court documents from that and the bankruptcy papers from his former business All Star that he founded and ran out of his own home as well until it hit rock bottom and he left his partners holding the bag for that 1.2 million in debt mostly accrued under his watch as president. I deal in facts and the experiences of former reps.

    If you have any further questions I will do my best to answer them.

    Best wishes,

    Heather
    Another wonderful family saved from financial disaster! Mike Melvin had to have known all the facts from the thousands of posts I had made across the net. He had to be perfectly well aware of how dishonest Jack Weinzierl and Tim Darnell are. I suppose he thinks ripping off hundreds of people and making false allegations of being stalked and receiving death threats is Christian and the way legitimate businesses are operated. There is a special place in hell for folks like him who defraud the desperate and trusting Christians out there.

    Perhaps Mike Melvin should do some more reading here:

    Tim Darnell and Catherine / Cathy Starnater Darnell both sent to IRS Hell

    Advantage Conferences Sued the Dallas Better Business Bureau and Lost in Summary Judgment / Tim Darnell / Jack Weinzierl

    Jack Weinzierl Multi-million Dollar Earner or Destitute Ding-a-ling???

    Tim Darnell / Jack Weinzierl / Advantage Conferences and One of the Heroes That Helped Shut Them Down -- Judy S.

    Jack Weinzierl Threatened and Tim Darnell Sued Soapboxmom / Heather Dobrott in District Court & Lost in Summary Judgment

    http://www.realscam.com/f11/tim-darnelll-timothy-spencer-darnell-non-citizen-not-texas-resident-mary-lou-starnater-affiant-894/

    Jack Weinzierl / Tim Darnell Fabrications of Receiving Death Threats and Being Stalked By Soapboxmom / Heather Dobrott

    Jack Weinzierl is an EVIL Rat! Liar and Scammer! Stephanie Weinzierl of Coram Deo Academy

    Advantage Conferences Implodes into Bankruptcy just as Its Predecessor All Star Entrepreneur / Tim Darnell

    Insurance Agents Held to High Standards / Tim Darnell's Insurance Escapades

    http://www.realscam.com/f16/coram-de...nces-reps-303/

    http://www.realscam.com/f14/tim-darn...backfired-769/

    Jerry Weinzierl / Aaron Weinzierl Religious Scammers Who Threaten Consumer Advocates with Lawsuits Using Google Ads

    Tim Darnell / Jack Weinzierl and Their E-mails Straight From Purgatory



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    Re: Mike Melvin And Tim Darnell Desperately Push Advantage Conferences Pyramid Scheme

    MLM cult brainwashing bull$hit:
    Positive Expectancy



    Written by Mike Melvin on Jan 25, 2008 7:13 pm






    Positive Expectancy
    Nehemiah 4
    Here is a perspective that eludes MP’s (Most People) - one of the secrets that highly successful people possess. It is a powerful nuance overlooked by the masses. That nuance is: “positive expectancy” - constantly finding an accomplishment(s) to look forward to and working with that object firmly in mind. If you want to be more successful than you’ve been in the past, this single ingredient can truly make the difference. In fact, it is imperative that you put your mind in this mode all the time. You can’t let your guard drop regarding this single, extremely important and empowering thought pattern. You’ve got to maintain “positive expectancy,” and stay deeply committed to it. You cannot deviate from that commitment in the slightest. You’ve got to be on top of this single concept every day, every week, every year – for years, and back it up with action.


    I had a dream that Jack Weinzierl, the top producer at Advantage Conferences, was casually mentioning to those around him the names of the Candidates who were coming into his business. In my dream, he was confident and excited. The fact is, my dream is more than a dream – it is his actual reality – the way he lives his life. He’s done that when he made $97,000.00 in one month (July of 2005), and he’s done the same thing when he only made a couple thousand in a single month (which is not often). Jack always has “positive expectancy.” It’s a decision and he sticks to that powerful, little thought-about choice.

    I, also, think in those same terms, partly due to that being my natural temperament and partly due to practicing and disciplining my mind to think that way. I constantly think about the power of the future and the multitudinous factors that are fomenting and congealing as we speak that ARE making that future even better than ever. I envision highly talented Candidates who today will receive a communication from me, or will heed an outside stimulus in their environment independent of me, that will help them develop their thinking to the point of action. That single message will help them make a positive decision to move forward, working with me in actualizing the vision of delivering Christ-centered Mindset MentoringSM to the world. Their involvement will be greatly to their benefit as well. Most importantly, the synergistic efforts by all of us will also greatly benefit those who will be impacted by our message and movement.

    This is not Pollyanna thinking. If you remember the movie, Pollyanna tended to have a mindset of total positivity that Most People (MP’s) can’t understand. Anything people can’t understand they tend to derogate and put down. This phenomenon is nothing more than ignorance and prejudice. What the naysayers think is that totally positive people tend to be stupidly unaware of negative elements and obstacles that are part of their environment. Actually, Pollyanna was smarter than they were, and at the same time she was well aware of extenuating circumstances, obstacles and barriers. We certainly are as well. We simply choose not to let those negatives be the guide. God’s power and our Holy Spirit led choices are our determining factors. That’s why the future is so incredibly exciting!

    In spite of those seeming “negative” things that you and I face, “positive expectancy” negates the negative. Two negatives make a positive in math and they do in life. Champions make the conscious decision that a positive reality will indeed manifest – and we have total control over whether we think this way or not. It’s our disciplined thinking that allows the positive which God intended for us all along to be truly made manifest in our life.

    Is there an enemy? Yes! In fact, the more “good” you do in life, the more opposition you will face. Combine that with standing up boldly for Jesus Christ and you’ll be sure to attract kooks and krazies from all over the place. I attempt to structure my life around several key scriptures that have had a major impact on me, one of which is Luke 12:8 – “I tell you, whoever acknowledges me before men, the Son of Man will also acknowledge him before the angels of God. But he who disowns me before men will be disowned before the angels of God.” When you do that you’re obviously doing the right thing, and you’ll also open the door for trouble – so be it.

    Worst Enemy?
    There are indeed enemies and powerful obstacle ahead of you and ahead of others. I see most of those enemies with perfect clarity. Amazingly, the greatest enemy is our own attitude – and especially our propensity to vividly imagine:

    lesser, rather than greater

    scarcity, rather than abundance

    finite even though the “Infinite” (God) is at work


    We constantly bow down at the altar of fear,
    rather than responding to the reality
    that Almighty God is in charge


    The thing that adults tend to hang onto more than anything else is a non-imaginative perspective that refuses to allow the idea of good things happening. Outside obstacles, including other people who choose to be our enemies – those things will change, but choosing to think with positivity and enthusiasm about the future is much more accurate. This kind of thinking will prevail, and it will lead to eventual accomplishment.

    It’s time to wake up to the fact that your imaginative mind is capable of conceiving fantastic concepts about the future that can and will indeed occur. Your vision should be alive and bold – not just barely breathing on life-support. No, it should be your driver, and you’ve got to protect it and feed it daily.

    Listen to how one of my Mentors, famed marketing guru, Dan Kennedy, speaks to his constituents. He’s blunt. He hits them right between the eyes. He doesn’t avoid subjects that most people avoid. He tells it like it is. He talks about attitude all the time, and he’s right on target.

    “In every business or sales field, there are people making high 6 figure and 7 figure incomes while thousands and thousands of others come and go through the very same business, start and quit, often within the same year, and spend their lives hopping from one unsuccessful endeavor to another like fleas hopping from one passing dog to the next….”

    “Personally, I figured out early in life you never win by quitting.”

    “Former Minnesota Vikings all-star quarterback Fran Tarkenton, with whom I’ve worked on occasion, tells his story of doing so badly with the Vikings he left the team and skipped practices and decided to quit. When Coach Bud Grant finally got to him, Fran told Coach Grant that he hated being booed by the hometown fans, was weary of the media criticism, didn’t feel he was helping the team, and wanted to quit. “Fran, everybody wants to quit. It’s okay to want to quit,” Grant told him. “It’s just not okay to quit.”

    Most People quit on their dreams. Their imagination fails them. They let go of positive expectancy and allow negative expectations to pour water on their fire. Stand up. Be strong. Be courageous. Listen to God’s voice telling you what to do. Defend your vision. Enunciate your vision. See the success. Feel the success. Don’t be afraid of obstacles or enemies. Eat their lunch instead of letting them eat your lunch. Your lunch is not for sale – no way, no how.

    My friend, it is the intangible will to win that allow us to actually win. You’ve got to see the win. See the victory. It is a mature, positive expectancy amidst diverse obstacles that penetrates the barriers to success and takes you to the Champion’s seat of accomplishment.

    Tim Darnell
    2008 – Rhino Nation Publishing

    Be Encouraged
    Mike Melvin
    954.325.3559 Direct Line
    Advantage Conferences
    Sorry, but the people that continued pushing Advantage Conferences after the facts and truth were out there are the kooks and crazies. Mike Melvin might want to explain why Jack Weinzierl and Tim Darnell were making false criminal allegations against me. Darnell sued me and lost. He was forced to admit that I had never stalked him, sent death threats of threatened him or his family in any way.

    Jack Weinzierl was mentored into chapter 7 bankruptcy in 2008 and Advantage Conferences soon followed him straight to chapter 7 in December 2009. I would encourage Mike to "Be Encouraged" to seek out the truth and separate himself from serial scammers Tim Darnell and Jack Weinzierl he is still associating with. Judy Sterling said in 2007 AC had no sales in May and many months there was almost no money coming in. Jack Weinzierl made next to nothing in 2008 and didn't renew for 2009 as the gravy train had long ago ended.

    Soapboxmom
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    Re: Mike Melvin And Tim Darnell Desperately Push Advantage Conferences Pyramid Scheme

    Here is a fake job ad scammer Mike Melvin posted. Becoming a rep for Advantage Conferences meant the mark was coerced into spending $10,000.00 to secure a spot in the pyramid scheme. Thousands more would be spent attending the scamference and advertising that flop of a scam. It was not a legitimate full-time job. Darnell, Weinzierl and Melvin should be behind bars for these fraudulent come ons.

    Advantage Conferences

    FL, Florida, United States

    Date Posted:2/14/2006
    Job Category:Administrative/ClericalSecondary
    Job Category:
    Education:Any
    Min Pay Rate:unspecified
    Max Pay Rate:unspecifiedJob
    Type:Full-TimeJob
    Code:Business
    Company Name:Advantage Conferences-FloridaDepartment: Contact:Mike MelvinEmail:Posting no longer available


    Website:Posting no longer available
    Job Description:MAKE $ 7000 OVER & OVER AGAIN
    Proven 3 step sytem
    Christian multimillionaires mentor
    MILLIONAIRE MINDSET CONFERENCE
    Christian owned company
    Full on going training
    not MLM

    The appropriate candidate must be capable of:

    Consistent effort
    Long term commitment
    Positive attitude
    Well-mannered
    Strong self-image

    Review detailed information regarding Advantage Conferences thru link provided below
    We could count the reps that made $7,000.00 over and over on our fingers!

    Soapboxmom

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