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    PIMP LIST. Name and Shame Your Favourite Scam Promoters.

    If there was an Olympic Gold medal for ponzi pimps, it would probably be a tie between Ken Russo and Faith Sloan. Who are the worst that any of you have encountered?

    There have been many runners in the race for third place so who is or was leading the pack?

    I nominate "Chris007" the Bob Krimm and Nick Smirnow scum bag who offered to lend me $200 to get into either a Krimm or Smirnow scam so that he could help "poor people" to make money from Internet marketing. Needless to say I declined the offer but the kindness of Chris007 and my ungracious response to his kind offer was posted in all the forums.

    There are pictures of Chris007 with Nick Smirnow and pictures of Bob Krimm that should be posted in this rogues pimping gallery.

    Interesting comment by RS member Eddie Haskell about Chris007 on a report by PatrickPretty.

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    Feb 26, 2012 at 3:27 pm | Permalink

    Hard to believe after all of this time that Smirnow has not been arrested. I fought tooth and nail with the promotors at the talk gold crime forum back in the day. We got Bin Laden but cant find Smirnow? Something is just wrong with this and how could we all forget Chris007 whos last name escapes me at the moment. He was a huge promoter and probably profited in a huge way. Anybody remember the picture of Chris and Nick? I had it on an old computer but it crashed. Chris has since disappeared from the hyip scene because he likely make enough to retire off of this one scam. The ASA crime forum was quite good at protecting him also. Somebody needs to step it up and get this thug in jail. Thanks Patrick for the news.
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    Chris' mother was also a huge pimp. Does anybody remember her name? Honey something or other?
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    Re: PIMP LIST. Name and Shame Your Favourite Scam Promoters.

    What are the criteria we're looking for in terms of "worst?"

    Number of scams pushed? Frequency? Number of personal victims? Cluelessness?
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    Re: PIMP LIST. Name and Shame Your Favourite Scam Promoters.

    Quote Originally Posted by ProfHenryHiggins View Post
    What are the criteria we're looking for in terms of "worst?"

    Number of scams pushed? Frequency? Number of personal victims? Cluelessness?
    I can only state that the worst in my experience, are those who have offered me finacial incentives to get me involved in their scams. Those included chris007 and TerryKurtis.

    Faith Sloan tried flattery by naming me as an alpha female like her!!

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    I nominate Adolf Hitler. Convincing people to part with their money for the prospect of making more money is easy. Convincing people to give up their lives for a goal they would not approve if they were thinking straight - that's major pimping skillz.

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    Personal experience is BS. Rate promoters in neutral terms, such as effectiveness in spreading the ideology to the largest number of participants.

    HYIP forums trump individual promoters, for example. At the rate they are going, pretty soon no one will be left to want to work for the elites.

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    Re: PIMP LIST. Name and Shame Your Favourite Scam Promoters.

    Quote Originally Posted by Finix View Post
    Personal experience is BS. Rate promoters in neutral terms, such as effectiveness in spreading the ideology to the largest number of participants.

    HYIP forums trump individual promoters, for example. At the rate they are going, pretty soon no one will be left to want to work for the elites.
    I am not in the least interested in getting into academic arguments with you or anybody else about this "finix." I found chris007 the most unpleasant of the Krimm and Smirnow pimps as he projected a good image to his followers by offering to lend me money. His followers considered him to be very generous indeed and considered me to be extremely ungracious for not accepting the offer.

    If this thread is going to become a bloody academic argument, please will admin delete it for me.

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    Re: PIMP LIST. Name and Shame Your Favourite Scam Promoters.

    Everybody forget Gary, AKA PVR? He was a friendly version of Chris Balsdon (Chris007). Pushing the same crap and lies but nicer about it, at least publicly...!BTW don't forget Wiseowl and Tappin...!
    Last edited by laidback; 04-08-2013 at 01:52 PM.
    It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!

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    Re: PIMP LIST. Name and Shame Your Favourite Scam Promoters.

    ...And in case anybody has forgotten...Nick-Diane-wife.jpgGaryPVR1.jpgNick-Chris.jpg Nick and wife Diane, Gary PVR, and Nick and Chris007.
    It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!

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    Re: PIMP LIST. Name and Shame Your Favourite Scam Promoters.

    You have to look at things objectively. For example, Pat Robertson is by far a more successful pimp than anyone in HYIP industry could dream to become.

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    Having said this, HYIP industry got talent as well. For example, Nanci Jo Frazer is a true inspiration to every promoter around.

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    Charis Johnson trumps Nanci Jo, though. The woman had no chance to succeed in real life. Thanks to the industry and religion she's got millions. Combining religion and money into promotional techniques is the best way to go.

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    Re: PIMP LIST. Name and Shame Your Favourite Scam Promoters.

    Quote Originally Posted by laidback View Post
    ...And in case anybody has forgotten...Nick-Diane-wife.jpgGaryPVR1.jpgNick-Chris.jpg Nick and wife Diane, Gary PVR, and Nick and Chris007.
    That was the picture which I remembered so well "laidback." Chris007 played a very large part in the Krimm and Smirnow scams. Posterity may find out how much he and his mother made from those scams. Rumours are that Jake Amadee and kent Black sang like canaries when they were questioned about Krimm and Smirnow.

    Chris007 and his mother have not fallen off the radar screen.

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    P2P was a great program, no doubt about it. We need more of long lasting programs like 12DP and P2P around.

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    The admins have gotten lazy as of late and started to opt for quick programs. Banners Broker and ProfitClicking were pleasant exceptions.

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    Re: PIMP LIST. Name and Shame Your Favourite Scam Promoters.

    Quote Originally Posted by ProfHenryHiggins View Post
    What are the criteria we're looking for in terms of "worst?"

    Number of scams pushed? Frequency? Number of personal victims? Cluelessness?
    I'd suggest a score out of 10 for each.....
    Ken Russo would score high on "Number of scams pushed" cos he pimps multiple scams at the same time....While Nanci Jo would score low because she pimps one big one at a time...

    "Personal victims" Nanci scores higher then Russo......

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    Re: PIMP LIST. Name and Shame Your Favourite Scam Promoters.

    The Krimm mods were a group of bullies who wielded power for a long time. I am not aware of any other program where a group of mods reigned supreme on most of the forums. The gang of five were finally broken when they announced their joint aims as "ModSquad" and tried to take over one of the surf monitor forums which was owned by Gary somebody or other. One of their main aims was to assure their followers that Bob Krimm was taking action against me for libel. Somebody called Karen found an investigative journalist who was after Krimm and his hound dogs so those doggies had their day and "ModSquad" disappeared into a cyberspace holding pen.

    Krimm Mods included

    1) "brookie" Rhonda somebody or other.

    2) "wiseowl" Barb something or other whose mugshot is all over the Internet. "Wiseowl"

    3) Jerry1503 or some similar number whose real name and photograph was all over ASA so he is well known to legal authorities.

    4) The Tonik who started a forex trading school and taught his students "legitimate trading?"

    5) can anybody remember the fifth member?

    I do not think Chris007 was a mod for Krimm. He was MrNiceGuy in the Krimm playing fields and not many insulted him because he was so kind and offered poor pensioners like me loans to join Krimm's programs

    Chris007 was the ultimate slimy pimp in my book. MrNiceGuy Chris007?

    Eddie nearly burst blood vessels lambasting Chris007 and the rest of the Krimm mods. Keep up the good work Eddie!
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    Re: PIMP LIST. Name and Shame Your Favourite Scam Promoters.

    Path2Prosperity, you have a pretty good memory. Brookie was one of the dumbest gullible people I ever came across. She dropped off the face of the earth after Krims ponzi went bust. I vaguely remember Todd(?) (ex owner of ASA) going to Florida to start a new MLM. I cant remember who all was involved but it never got off the ground. They put out a video and all kinds of stuff.

    Anybody remember Krimms videos? Some of them were hilarious. I guess the guy is still in Florida a free man. Hard to believe he got away with it but he did.
    If its listed at the Talk Gold ponzi and crime forum its a SCAM.

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    Re: PIMP LIST. Name and Shame Your Favourite Scam Promoters.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie Haskell View Post
    Some of them were hilarious. I guess the guy is still in Florida a free man. Hard to believe he got away with it but he did.
    This more of an offline scam, and mere $30,000,000 one at that, but the free man in Florida seems to be a theme. Wayde McKelvey, Troy Wragg, and Amada Knorr swindled investors out of money that was supposed to go to a green energy company. Turned out it was nothing more than a Ponzi. McKelvey is quite a character who advertised on Bloomberg as a sort of financial coach in what he called Speed of Wealth. He held seminars around the country, wrote a book on the Secrets of the Rich, Utbue videos and the like.

    Seems like so many he roped folks in with promises of high returns and enjoyed their money. I linked an article below which is a bit racy, but an interesting read if you like debauchery mixed in with your cons. One thing that caught my eye as I was following him was he had an "A" rating with the BBB in Denver right up until the feds moved in. They then promptly changed it to an "F", thanks for the heads up guys.

    But as you say, at present he is living the good life in Florida. And if he stays out of jail, I am looking for a comeback or scamback as these guys never seem to be able to quit while they are ahead.

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    Oh, and lest we forget, Adrian Baker, AKA HNV, the self-proclaimed bee from Judy's neck of the woods...
    It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!

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    Re: PIMP LIST. Name and Shame Your Favourite Scam Promoters.

    Speaking of pimps, Jim Paris is a really good one. Dave Ramsey as well. Eagle isn't as good, he is just a wannabe.

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    Re: PIMP LIST. Name and Shame Your Favourite Scam Promoters.

    Quote Originally Posted by Finix View Post
    Speaking of pimps, Jim Paris is a really good one. Dave Ramsey as well. Eagle isn't as good, he is just a wannabe.
    I have heard of being "out in left field" but you're out in the parking lot...!
    It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!

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    Re: PIMP LIST. Name and Shame Your Favourite Scam Promoters.

    A few names that spring to mind from the cash gifting sector of scamworld.

    Kenneth Belton
    Derek Duncan
    Brad Kamanski
    Jhontise Carter
    Dorothy Cothran-Cooper
    Sherm Mason
    Derrick Strickland
    Tom Yatar
    Shannon Dollarhide
    Beau Bridgewater
    Phil Miranda


    And a dishonorable mention to this man.
    Austin Rose - he even pimps offline. How many scammers brazenly advertise overhead at international tourist destinations? He does.
    Beware of planes flying ad banners around Disney World in Orlando.
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    Re: PIMP LIST. Name and Shame Your Favourite Scam Promoters.

    Quote Originally Posted by Finix View Post
    Speaking of pimps, Jim Paris is a really good one. Dave Ramsey as well. Eagle isn't as good, he is just a wannabe.
    I listen to Dave Ramsey on the radio from time to time and I would say on the whole if people follow what he says it would be hard to end up in a bad spot financially. Sure he sells books and tapes, but you can pay down debt, pay cash for everything and save for the future without buying anything. And he sures the hell would not tell people to send money via STP to someone in the Isle of Man that claims to have the golden touch.
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    Re: PIMP LIST. Name and Shame Your Favourite Scam Promoters.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie Haskell View Post
    Anybody remember Krimms videos? Some of them were hilarious. I guess the guy is still in Florida a free man. Hard to believe he got away with it but he did.
    You bet I do? I wrote a review of them before they were released and Krimm was so angry that he got "brookie" and "wiseowl" to tell their sob story about the harm that I was doing to him on a surf monitor which I now remember was called NetSurfMonitor. The guy who owned it was Gary something or other. He was keen to let the site be used by Krimm mods until he realized that an investigative journalist was hounding Krimm. Gary lost hios nerve and sold NSM (the monitor site) to David Estes, who did have a genuine boat building business. The libel writ which Krimm promised his followers would be forthcoming was never delivered. Krimm nearly blew his top about my article but is it libel?

    Krimm Videos.

    Krimm may have got away with some things but you can bet he squealed and that his life depends on looking over his shoulder. He was a common criminal and there certainly is no honour among thieves.

    I think of The Krimm Mod Era as being a significant era in Internet History. There were no other major ponzis that I can remember in that era when Chris007 served his apprenticeship under krimminal himself.

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    Re: PIMP LIST. Name and Shame Your Favourite Scam Promoters.

    Quote Originally Posted by Finix View Post
    Speaking of pimps, Jim Paris is a really good one. Dave Ramsey as well. Eagle isn't as good, he is just a wannabe.
    I am sad that you made yourself so unpleasant that RS admin had to ban you "finix." I enjoyed reading your posts when I joined TG. There were some really good posters in that forum including Eagle, LRM, Goldkitty, "okosh" "lita" Eddie and one called Butch/brookie/wiseowl who had me in hysterics. Your posts were thought provoking and I enjoyed reading your comments in those days. I hope you will mellow with age and develop the potential which you obviously possess..

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