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    Ray st Clair.The real story.

    Major Raymond st Clair. ( Part 0ne.)

    Remember the name,(also known as Raymond (Lord) st Clair,) for there is every chance you might one day come across him in the course of business.He has traveled all over the world relieving unsuspecting people from their hard-earned cash.
    He has been involved in just about every dodgy type of deal imaginable.these range from false charities to bogus churches,to network marketing ,multi-level marketing and the Internet lottery.
    Many of his “shell” companies are currently running,all publicized on the world-wide web.
    He is a computer guru in the true sense of the word,or if you prefer a “geek”.He is a past master at conning people from all walks of life,not just the ordinary man in the street,and has absolutely no scruples or morals and if given half a chance will leave you penniless.
    I shall reveal on this thread many of his nefarious dealings both past and current. Stand by to be amazed at his antics!
    Who knows you might enjoy the story—!
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    Re: Ray st Clair.The real story.

    aka,Gary Martin Beaver.
    Our man Ray st Clair has had a string of aliases as long as your arm.For a number of years he called himself Gary Martin Beaver.At one point not so many years ago he even stole the name Lord Newport from Richard,seventh Earl of Bradfords son! This led to litigation,and caused Earl Bradford to launch his very interesting website www.faketitles.com

    http://www.faketitles.com/html/the_eager_beaver.html






    The Eager Beaver is how I refer to him, but he seems to call himself whatever name suits his mood at the time - Gary Martin Beaver, alias Lord Newport, alias Lord Beaver of Newport, alias His Supreme Excellency the Right Honourable Chevalier Gary Beaver, Baron of Richecourt, Doctor of Laws.

    This man should carry a wealth warning, as almost everybody that has dealt with him has left poorer for the experience. I first came across him when I was e-mailed and told that this man was passing himself off as Lord Newport. This was brought to my attention by a colleague, another peer, who knew that Viscount Newport is one of my titles, and is available for use by my eldest son, Alexander, as a courtesy title. Gary Martin Beaver has no right to use it whatsoever.

    I subsequently learned that the Baronage website had noted the arrival of "The Most Noble Order of the Sword" and had clearly demonstrated that everything about it was bogus. It attempted to link "Lord Newport" to the town of Newport in the Isle of Wight and through that to the feudal Lordship of the Isle of Wight, with the implication that "Lord Newport" was the direct descendant of these ancient lords.

    It claimed that Gary Martin Beaver's ancestors could be traced back to the time of the Norman Conquest, which, if he was indeed the descendant of those who had held the Isle of Wight as a lordship would have been true. But he is no more descended from them than he is Lord Newport.

    The website of "The Most Noble Order of the Sword" hoped to recruit potential "knights" who would pay for the privilege of belonging to such a "prestigious" order. An annual fee of £300 was mentioned, but the entry fee was not. It described "The Right Honourable Chevalier Lord Beaver of Newport" as having been elected in plenary session as the order's Grand Master for Life.

    As the Grand Master for Life, Gary Martin Beaver would have been in overall charge of the order's finance and must therefore take some responsibility for the order's unpaid bills. One such is for the beautifully produced stars worn by the "knights" of the order and designed by Carl W. Lemke in America.

    Another of Gary Martin Beaver's bogus claims is to be a Doctor of Laws (LL.D.) although he normally fails to specify the university responsible for this award. In fact, when pressed, he explains that the doctorate was granted by the Guild Of Licensed Estate Planning Lawyers, which is not an organisation that has been recognised by the Minister of Education as one competent to award academic distinctions.

    Actually, the Guild Of Licensed Estate Planning Lawyers was a limited liability company, struck off on September 23rd 1997, whose sole action appears to have been to grant Gary Martin Beaver his doctorate. It seems fair to assume that, as the company never traded, this award may have been the sole reason for its formation; though Gary Martin Beaver also claims to possess a Diploma with Honours from the College of Will Writing.

    In 2001 Gary Martin Beaver bought a French "title". Nominally, this is a "barony" and the status of baron belongs to the land, the title being borne by the owner while the baronial land is in his possession. However, as is explained by Baronage in the notes on French feudal titles, the current validity of ancient French titles is often doubtful.

    Moreover, even if Gary Martin Beaver now holds a genuine French barony of Richecourt, as a British subject he cannot use the Baron de Richecourt (as he calls himself) title without a Royal Warrant from the office of the Queen's Lord Chamberlain. That is the law.

    Additionally, as a British subject he may not use the Richecourt arms shown here without the confirmation of the College of Arms or the Lord Lyon, and even with that confirmation he cannot use the lion supporters, for supporters may be used by British subjects only if they are peers, or chiefs of ancient Scottish families, or Knights Grand Cross of British orders of chivalry.

    Gary Martin Beaver currently describes himself as "His Serene Excellency, The Magistral Prior of Notre Dame, Saint Mary of Magdalene, The Chevalier Baron de Richecourt, KGCNS, KtJ". He has passed the Grand Mastership of "The Most Noble Order of the Sword" onto his successor and is now "The Past Grand Master". Readers seeking to know the terms on which he now facilitates the grant of "titles" and invited to contact him through his "Templar" website should be aware that older Templar organizations do not recognise his "titles" as genuine.

    Latest: He has elevated himself even further, and Beaver now calls himself “The Most Reverend Archbishop Gary, Hugues ll” as well as “The Marquis of Aulnois” - The Knights Templar must rue the day that he ever got involved with them. Though his site seems to be defunct, his outfit is/was an offshoot of the The Ordo Supremus Militaris Templi Hierosolymitani, Latin for the "Sovereign Military Order of the Temple of Jerusalem”, if it ever reappears this should be avoided completely.

    Apparently he even managed to persuade the Masons to accept him; one wonders what personal grief he must have caused there!! Presumably, however, they eventually saw through him and his activities, as he resigned towards the end of 2003.

    For more on Gary Beaver, I suggest that you visit the Baronage site.
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    Lord st Clair,I presume?
    In Ray st.Clairs dark and dingy past,he had a very profitable sideline selling bogus titles.For a fee (a fat one),you could become an Earl,Lord,Baron,Archbishop etc.
    Distinctly annoyed at being taken to task for selling fake titles by The Baronage Press,our man Raymond (Lord) st.Clair took to writing them nasty letters under one of his bogus names “Reimund,Major Freiherr von Massener”.

    http://www.baronage.co.uk/2002c/bradford1.html

    June issue of Baronage, has already made an impact on the bogus “titles” market. This impact can be assessed by the incoming correspondence, much of it thanking the website’s creator for saving the writer’s face and money, but one letter had a rather different message. This we have been permitted to print ~
    Sir,

    Having just reviewed your website regarding alleged fake titles I could not but howl with laughter: Please, allow me to elaborate.
    In the first instance you quote both Baronage and The Manorial Society as being shall we say.. in the good guys camp.
    You may or may not know that the creator and proprietor of said Baronage Press is wanted in England by Her Majestys, tax inspectors for various offences relating to companies that he ran in the UK and to this day still owe thousands of pounds. Additionally your man uses his Son and Daughter to “front” companies in the UK from his base overseas whilst in reality he disqualified as a director here in the UK. (a fact you can easily verify with companies house).
    Baronage is a scam for the following reason — you will note that our learned friend decries every seller of alleged bogus titles on the internet, yet he does make it clear that if he is approached he is able to “recommend” a “reputable” company for the purpose of acquiring a title. If you follow this trail as an anonymous buyer of a title — where you end up upon your mans “recommendations” will horrify you I am sure!
    The purpose of Baronage is clear — to defile all purveyors of titles on the internet in an effort to make the way clear for his “Reputable” company to take those sales.
    Robert Smith of the Manorial Society is in my opinion one of the cleverest con men I have ever come across — last year his company salted away over £9 Million and paid little or no tax on that. Mr. Smith doesn,t give two hoots about heritage, peerage or any other aspect of his trade — it,s a commercial venture out to make a profit — nothing more.
    The second reason that I laughed is this -
    I hold a doctorate in history from Magdalen (its real) and if you were to examine british history, there were, before William of Normandy,s invasion NO Demesne Manors in England. The whole system was devised and implemented by William in this country. In most (if not all) cases the Titles were, for want of a better phrase, “made up” — “fabricated” from thin air by those in power at the time to suit whatever needs arose.
    The reality is Sir that anyone holding a title whether “real” or otherwise is merely clinging to a false, meaningless and wholly worthless accolade. The only recognition these titles held were in the courts of various kings and queens (all of whom have no blood right to throne) who then dished them out in return for favours, Military, Political or indeed in many cases sexual! The world is fully aware of how incestuous, deceitful, power crazy and bloodletting the monarchial and court classes of this country have been from the outset. How many people did your ancestors murder, rape or pillage to acquire their status?
    His Royal Highness Prince Charles has over 72accolades but only ever uses one pertaining to his Duchy in Cornwall. In this present climate local councils are destroying the old Demesne Manors as “manorial waste” in favour of roads and housing developments.
    The reality is Sir, that nobody cares any more about this, except it would appear, yourself and Baronage.
    I would question why this is — given that all titles were made up in the first place why is it so important to you that you feel you have to hang on to it — does it make you feel important? I would respect you more without it — as it is — it merely serves to make me feel pity for you.

    Lavatorial humour deleted at this point


    Sir, with little if any respect or deference toward YOUR bogus and completely fabricated title — get a life!
    Clearly you are very insecure and feel highly threatened by companies selling what your ancestors made up and gave you — why are they any different to your ancestors who did exactly the same thing but usually it involved the unlawful (by Common law) deaths of freemen of England before they were granted? Could it be that Lord Bradford has seen the light that one day your kind will not exist and that this sceptered Isle will once more belong to those from whom your ancestors stole it in the first place!
    Regards
    Reimund, Major Freiherr Von Massener


    Since we prepared the above comments for publication the letter’s writer has changed his pseudonym from “Von Massener” to “Ray St Clair”. Presumably this is the same Ray St Clair who used to sell “titles” a couple of years ago while posing as “the Lord of Huntingdon” and has been known elsewhere as “Baron Graham Fothergill”.
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    Re: Ray st Clair.The real story.

    Grubby backstreet conman.
    THE CHAMELEON AT WORK.
    You will find Ray st.Clair all over the internet just like a rash.However nothing before 2002,a bit like he “re-invented” himself at that time,something he has done many times.He claims to be all sorts of things,such as “netpreneur”,a word coined by yours truly in a vain bid to make himself look credible as a successful businessman,which he most certainly is not!
    Ray has had more failed business ventures under his belt than we have all eaten hot dinners!
    I thought it might be beneficial at this point to mention a few of the names that Ray st.Clair has masqueraded under over the years in order to scam innocent people.It might help you avoid our Teflon-coated friend,who is ever-ready to fleece the unwary and relieve them of their hard earned cash.After all it might be you one day.

    His Supreme Excellency the Lord Chevalier Gary Beaver.
    His Serene Excellency the Primal See.
    The Right Honourable Chevalier Lord Beaver of Newport.
    His Emminence Archbishop Gary Beaver Hughes11.
    Right Reverend Gary Beaver.
    Lord Beaver Baron of Richecourt.
    Lord Newport.
    Sir Illustrious Commander of La Fontenotte.
    Marquiss of Aulnois
    Lord of the Manor of Newport.
    Dr Gary M.Beaver.
    The Most Honourable Lord Chevalier Gary M.Beaver.
    The Most Honorable Lord Beaver.
    Baron de Richecourt.
    His Serene Excellency (HSE) Magistral Prior.
    Reimund,Major von Messener.
    Major Raymond st.Clair
    Raymond,Lord st.Clair.

    More too follow,much more,stay tuned for developments—.
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    Re: Ray st Clair.The real story.

    Lies piled upon lies!

    In order to give himself an air of credibility,and to appear to be both wealthy,educated,and well connected,Ray st.Clair had honed his skills of lying to a fine edge.He had variously masqueraded in life as an Earl,a Lord,His Emminence the Archbishop, and a Baron.

    Baron Richecourt to be precise.Leader of men,and someone to be reckoned with!According to Ray he was:-
    “Recently awarded Chartered status under the Royal Charter of the British Computer Society in recognition of his professional standing in the Information Technology industry, he holds the position of Chairman of the Board and Chief Technical Director of The IT Counsel.
    As an active researcher and author of historic papers, the Baron Richecourt holds many honorary and senior ranks within chivalric Orders around the world and is an active supporter and patron of many charities.”
    A far cry from his humble council house beginnings,it would seem,but sadly it was all untrue.Gary Beaver aka Ray st.Clair was,and is,nothing but an accomplished conman,it was all lies.
    The IT Council have never heard of him,neither has The British Computer Society,and as far as his standing in the The Information Technology Industry is concerned,well,yes,I have to concede there are a great many people in the industry who would dearly love to get hold of Gary Martin Beaver aka Raymond “Lord” st Clair in order to get various outstanding debts settled and court appearances attended to—but alas our man is constantly on the move from rented address to rented address!
    As far as any “Chivalric” ranks go,the only ones he attained where within bogus organisations Gary Martin Beaver/Major Raymond (Lord) st Clair set up by himself!

    We will be taking a look at some of these in the near future.Stand by for updates.
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    Nice work Father. I'm wondering, how far in the story does Mr. St.Clair stop selling tokens of nobility and start spouting "free man on the land" doctrine?

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    Thank you.
    Patience is a virtue Glimdropper,all will be revealed in due course---.Warts and all!
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    <Grabs a box of popcorn and enjoys the unfolding story.>

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    Re: Ray st Clair,grubby backstreet conman.

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    Ray st.Clair and his lovely wife,Tracy Amanda st.Clair do endeavour to put on an air of respectability,they do mingle well at business conferences and social gatherings,always on the lookout for easy "prey".
    Backup is crucial in this theatrical display of pomp and ceremony.To this end Ray ceaselessly creates bogus internet websites,and writes himself endless accolades publicised with whatever free media outlets he can find on the net.The end result is lots of links on the Internet all talking about Ray as a leading figure in MLM circles,captain of industry,bla,bla,bla.
    The fact is its all penned by Ray himself,but,unfortunately it does fool some of the people some of the time!
    To continue the FLP saga(Forever Living Products,apologies for bringing their name onto these pages,but the story is a true one).
    Ray and Tracy Amanda st.Clair despite having been given the heave-ho by FLP within just a few months as a distributor in Spain,were hell bent on bumming up their latest enterprise Intrastore.
    To this end Ray claimed the following(the article is still freely available on many Internet links to this day.)
    http://www.upublish.info/ezineready.php?id=66083


    What?s the Big Idea? Changing the face of FLP business online. by Ray St Clair
    The Internet! Central to the digital revolution. The impact on our every day lives has been enormous. It has changed the way we communicate, work, think and most importantly shop. Where ever you look online sales are rocketing and traditional retail methods are on the decline. After all shopping on the internet is more convenient it, saves time and it saves money.
    Which is why IntraStore believes this ?online? ethos extends to other established retail business models such as Forever Living Products(FLP). After a full two years of consultation with many FLP distributors, IntraStore have developed OnlineAloe. This is a complete and comprehensive internet based business management and marketing tool specifically designed for FLP distributors to increase their profits and grow their businesses faster.
    OnlineAloe doesn?t need a degree in computer science to be able to use it, just a computer and access to the internet. The primary function of OnlineAloe is to give FLP distributors a web site that acts as an online storefront for their business. Through this web site new and existing retail customers will buy direct from the distributor in the same way any other shopping is transacted over the internet both securely and efficiently. Each website design can be fully customised by the retailer to suit their needs. Needless to say Online Aloe comes with a full support package including help files and tutorials.
    This fully featured business solution will enable automatic tracking and control of orders placed from anywhere in the world. OnlineAloe will also enable internet based marketing and promotion of the FLP business opportunity to the existing team and to new prospects alike. One unique and clever aspect of OnlineAloe is that when an order is placed by a new retail customer they are automatically encouraged to save money by becoming a ?Smart Consumer?. The price difference is clearly displayed adding further weight to the message. Once the customer has bought enough product to become a ?Smart Consumer? OnlineAloe then displays the considerable cost benefits or purchasing ?Combo Packs?. By using this logical and compelling approach in front of the consumer we are confident that this will increase the distributor base of the owners of OnlineAloe sites.
    This chain of events is only one way in which the OnlineAloe system works to automatically grow the distributor?s business.Many powerful business reporting and control features come as standard including Sales and Case Tracking, Business Management Snapshots, Order Management, Team Management and Communications and Diary tracking of important tasks such as meetings and prospect follow ups. In a nut-shell any distributor using this system will increase profit through time and cost savings when supplying and ordering products. They will also be able to grow their business faster and more efficiently using the integrated marketing and communication tools.
    OnlineAloe is a revolution within the FLP business. Many are getting left behind in this new era of technology but OnlineAloe gives everyone a chance to compete in the digital age. Don?t get left behind.For more information please email us at info@intrastoresystems.com and ask for our Microsoft PowerPoint presentation in English or Spanish.

    Ray St Clair is the managing director of IntraStore Ltd a company dedicated to providing the ultimate online FLP business management and sales solution ? Online Aloe. Ray St Claire is a successful network marketer and has a firm grasp on what it takes to be a success in this demanding field.


    Simplify the way your FLP business runs and develops. OnlineAloe is an online, subscription based business and marketing management tool for your FLP business. Developed by a past FLP distributor OnlineAloe is designed to streamline existing business functions such as ordering and sales tracking and also energise and organise the marketing process leaving more time to grow the business.
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    Re: Ray st Clair.The real story.

    The Ray st Clair self-penned Hogwash!


    It all sounded very plausible didnt it.Like all of Ray st.Clairs "2minute wonder" businesses.
    His ventures go out of business quicker than you can say Jack Flash.
    http://www.onlinealoe.com/ is of course no more,and as is published at Companies House GB,the records show Ray resigned in March 2008 from Intrastore Limited,negating any "come back" from disgruntled clients.
    Strange then that http://www.intrastoresystems.com/ still say this about Ray on their website.

    About Intrastore


    Intrastore was originally an idea created by Ray St.Clair , an experienced multi level marketer who was frustrated by the lack of web based services on offer for MLM distributors.
    Ray has been working in and around the MLM industry since the mid 1990's. However it was after a meeting with a recognised leading Multi Level Marketer in Spain, and after spending many hours listening to this friend describe some of the challenges he faced in his own MLM business, that Ray went work with paper and pen to map out a solution to these issues in the digital space.
    Fundamentally it became clear that while many MLM businesses had tried without success to migrate their existing "terrestrial" MLM businesses to the internet most had failed.
    After months of writing and rewriting ideas and concepts Ray had the bare bones of what is now the Intrastore system. Months of discussions with other MLM professionals ensued and Intrastore was crystalised into a cohesive web specification.
    A specification and 2 year development plan was drafted work began and a team of coding experts stretching as far as Russia was formed. This team of 6 developers have committed to ensuring that the Intrastore product is amongst the world leading software applications, and most certainly the most advance software within the MLM industry.
    Ongoing discussion with MLM leaders across Europe have helped to mould and develop the Intrastore product to ensure it meets the most recent criteria of MLM distributors.
    Links with Multi-Level Marketing businesses and MLM leaders across Europe who have expressed deep interested in the product and who in some cases have given us such positive feedback that we have incorporated some additional features into the Version 1 Intrastore.
    The Intrastore product is continually evolving with version 2 to 5 in development along side bespoke versions made available to specific downlines within MLM companies We believe that Intrastore is unique in the marketplace as it offers both MLM companies and MLM Leaders the opportunity to build and grow their incomes.

    The reality is
    FLP neither endorse,nor are perhaps aware of Rays little venture and its wild claims
    "Coding experts stretching as far as Russia!
    2 years development plan." ABSOLUTE BALONEY---AS IN THE SAUSAGE!
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    Eager-Beaver.jpgMr NETPRENEUR st.CLAIR.
    Lets have a brief look at Ray st.Clair and his business "operational policy".The main principal of this is to run a company or business for as short a period as possible and pay as few bills as you can get away with,doing a runner when necessary to avoid ones creditors..Sounds familiar doesnt it!
    Here are some of Rays current directorships and associations with other businesses.

    Directorships.
    CURLY BLUE MEDIA LIMITED.
    proposal to strike off by Companies House discontinued June 2009.
    Accounts overdue since Feb 2008.
    (Domain name curlyblue.com expired).

    INTRASTORE LIMITED.
    Ray st Clair resigned March 2008,after exposure on scam.com.
    Company is registered in the car park at Gatwick.Dormant non-trading.
    Domain http://www.intrastoresystems.com/

    INNER CIRCLE ASSOCIATES LIMITED.
    Registered June 2008.Accounts Overdue.
    Domain http://www.inner-circle-group.com/

    OLD CATHOLIC CHURCH OF GREAT BRITAIN LIMITED.
    Accounts overdue.Struck off by Companies House.
    Domain http://www.oldcatholic.co.uk/

    INTERDENOMINATIONAL CHURCH OF THE HOLY LANDS LIMITED.
    Accounts overdue.Struck off by Companies House.
    Domain http://www.ordotempli.org/

    ORDO SUPREMIS TEMPLI HIEROSOLYMITANI LIMITED.
    Company Struck off by Companies House.

    METIER TECHNOLOGIES LIMITED. No accounts filed.
    Domain. http://www.metiertools.com/

    St.CLAIR CONSULTANTS LIMITED.No accounts filed.

    CCS DIRECT U.K.LIMITED.No accounts filed.

    St CLAIR SYSTEMS LIMITED.No accounts filed.

    BUSINESS SAUCE LIMITED.Dormant.
    Domain. http://www.socialnetworkingmoney.com/



    ASSOCIATED COMPANIES.

    PROPERTYSTEP.COM LIMITED.
    Accounts overdue.Struck off by Companies House.

    ARTEMEDIA EUROPE LIMITED.
    Accounts overdue.

    I think you will see the general picture,strangely Ray has the cheek to call himself a business "Entrepeneur" or "Netpreneur"on the Internet.But then again he is not easily embarassed!
    Its quite a little business empire isnt it?Problem is all of them are best avoided completely if you want to hang onto your wallet.
    When confronted with his exposure on scam.com for his nefarious practices,this is what he had to say.

    If someones not talking about you then you are probably not famous.

    Says a lot about his state of mind doesnt it?Even when caught with his trousers down as a conman,he claims to be famous,shouldnt that be infamous?
    No wonder he is known as the **** in the Hat!
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    Raymondo launches into the Free Man On The Land movement! ( FMOTL).
    (Glimdropper has his popcorn at the ready!)

    Raymond st.Clair and his lovely wife Tracy Amanda st.Clair,aka Baron and Baroness Richecourt in times gone by are currently totally focused on their latest frantic endeavours to cause unrest in the UK.
    Their target market,unusually,is not directly involved in relieving people of their hard earned cash,but rather more at causing civil disturbance!
    Well,a new angle at last,well versed in avoiding paying inconvenient bills,such as income tax,poll tax,tv licences and other such annoying details has obviously got the better of the dynamic duo,and they are very keen to pass on their hard-earned experience in debt dodging to the general populace!
    You can find the relevant grubby details on these websites which are evidently all endorsed by the st.Clairs.

    http://www.raymondstclair.com/
    http://www.freedomrebels.co.uk/
    http://www.resolvenow.co.uk/
    http://www.nocounciltax.com/
    http://www.warontyranny.co.uk/
    http://policestate.co.uk/
    http://criminal-bailiffs.angelfire.com/index.htm
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    Our man Ray,the new self-styled Freeman On The Land,of the Clan st Clair,he would have you believe,is trying very hard to become the 'leader' of the movement.Now while I can understand the sentiments of people wishing to opt out of the current British Government laws and regulation,I find it very hard to think that a low-life scammer like Ray st Clair,could possibly be the best choice!
    Thankfully a rather large amount of thinking people agree with me,as cracks begin to show in Rays pontificating style of management.

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    And so Freedomrebels was born.Rays true intention being,as usual,to make as much ill-gotten gains as possible from others misfortune.
    . -

    Time to have a look at this new "movement" and its aims.
    Also known as the Free Man On The Land (FMOTL) organisation.

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    Whats it all about?
    Well online you can download your Beat The Bailiff Pack,or the No Council Tax pack or the No TV Licence pack for example.You can gen up on the webhosts top tips for paying your bills avoidance among other incredibly useful features. Theres also amazing advice on how to become a "strawman" or a "legal fiction"!
    Apparently this means you can appear in court as a piece of paper known as a Birth Certificate,which you can also claim is not really you!

    Confused? Me too,but all will be revealed in due course.Heres some information to get you started---it all began when a certain individual refused to pay for his meal in a restaurant---.
    http://www.youtube.com/user/Raymondo.../0/LI4dXnp_JRQ
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    Heres the Police Interview without the music,followed by two very interesting others where our man,known here as,Mr Lay Advisor,takes over the British Judiciary system all on his own! How incredible is that?




    Freeman Interviewed By Police - TPUC, FreedomRebels.co.uk, Lawfull Rebellion on Vimeo

    English Freemen Standing In Court - Council Tax Hearing - The Takedown Begins! on Vimeo

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    How does one become a so called Freeman I wonder,and just what are the benefits?Heres Rays blurb---.

    Freedom Rebels Network

    So, you're here ... you've arrived - Great! ... Now What??
    Well you have probably arrived here because of any number of reasons that may or may not include:-
    1.You have a court case coming up soon
    2.You are dealing with the CSA
    3.You have been threatened with a visit from the Bailiffs
    4.You have the TV licence collectors banging on the door
    5.You have debt collectors harrassing you
    6.You are in court over Council Tax
    7.(all of the above)
    Whatever the reason you are here LOOKING FOR AN ANSWER TO A PROBLEM .. are you not?
    OK, having established that then you have been drawn here by the "bright lights" of a way to "beat the system" or because someone told you there is "another way" that makes you an invincible, untouchable common law human being ...
    Well, the first thing I need to do is shatter some of your illusions and then give you the truth:-
    THE GOOD NEWS
    OK ... it's irrelevant how you got here, the important thing is that you are here and you are looking for answers and let me tell you the answers can be found in the members and information on this site! That's the good news.
    THE BAD NEWS
    The bad news is that in order to do things properly you need to understand that there is no "Quick Fix" - let me repeat that for the hard of hearing ...
    THERE IS NO QUICK FIX!!!
    In order to become a freeman-on-the-land and enjoy the benefits and priveleges that this affords you under the ancient law of this LAND the Common Law then you will need to do THREE things ...
    1.Study
    2.Study Some More
    3.Take Action
    The map is well and truly laid out as pioneers have gone before you to lay the trail for you to follow, good people such as John Harris, Veronica Chapman, Ray St.Clair, Norman Hinks, John Williams, Albert Burgess, Roger Hayes, John Hirst, Steve Barry and many many others. They have done this through selflessness and from a real desire to see this country back in the hands of the people it belongs to ... you and I.
    So often I see people coming onto the site and asking members "I need help... I am in court tomorrow... what can I do" ... the short answer is NOTHING, the long answer is NOTHING.
    This is not a suit of armour that can be put upon you in 5 minutes. It takes two things ...
    1.TIME.
    2.MONEY
    If you are not prepared to input the correct amount of time it takes to effect the correct documentation and position yourself correctly under the common law as a freeman then you will not succeed and you will continue to "bounce around" from site to site looking for that "fast track" that doesn't exist ... anywhere.
    By the same token, if you wish to get your documents notarised then you are going to spend a little money - we have found some good notaries at the right money who will do these for you but don't think its a tenner ... it isn't - the cheapest we have found is £60 per hour.
    If you cannot or will not expend the time researching and asking the questions of others to get the information you need then you will not succeed in your quest. We here at Freedom Rebels are going to try and make it as simple as possible and we are developing some interesting features as we speak but these will take a little time.
    TAKE THE FIRST STEPS - RIGHT NOW!
    Actions speak louder than words - if you truly intend to become a Freeman / Freewoman then the first documents you need to get under way are your Queens Affidavits. These can found in the Bailiff Pack which can be downloaded by clicking the link below:
    FREE BAILIFF PACK
    Then ... read these two forum posts ...
    Council Tax - Step 1 - Preparation - Queens Affidavits - Forum - .
    Why Should I Send My Affidavits? - Forum - .
    Once you have done your queens Affidavits the next step will be NOUICR / DUICR - you can find out more about these by asking on the site.
    A WORD TO THE WISE
    In the course of this work we have discovered something that might save some of you a lot of grief, pain and hardship and its this simple and fact ...
    If you are on benefits DO NOT attempt to get out of paying your council tax or any other obligation that might enable to simply stop the money you allegedly owe from your benefits. We are not "anti" people on benefits and we do genuinely feel for your situation - we just know that these false authorities think nothing of your hardship and everything about their own gain, greed and profits. We wouldn't want you guys currently on benefits to have to suffer because you were ill advised.
    That said we have many great people on this site and running groups who are on benefits - it doesn't stop you being active - just don't put yourself into their hands by opening yourself to risk.
    CONCLUSION
    Enjoy, have fun, get in the faces of these false authorities and false courts and lets bring the whole thing down around their ears ... and as my good friend John Harris of TPUC says ... give the 636 people in Parliament a broom so that they can sweep the streets that they thought they once owned!
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    Looks like Freedomrebels have already got themselves in hot w a t e r by filming ILLEGALLY in a British court of law.
    The owner of Freedomrebels,known affectionately as "Lardy Boy" because of his portly bearing,is no stranger to the long arm of the law.He is well known for leaving Hotels and Restaurants without paying his bill.(More on that later).However he might have bitten off more than he can chew this time.Currently he is inciting members of his "organisation",I use the term loosely,into defying the British judiciary---.

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    Ray st Clair aka Lardy Boy.

    "Lardy Boy",who goes under the pseudonym "Lay Advisor" whence appearing and disrupting court hearings on behalf of his "members" in a bid to evade paying Council Tax and other bills of payment,has a long history of avoiding paying his creditors.Therefore he is in an ideal position to pass on his experience to others.
    Recently,for example",Lardy Boy"booked himself into a leading Hotel in Birmingham in order to attend a conference.However he had absolutely no intention of paying for it,so he pulled off one of his regular little tricks,as told by Ickean recently:-

    I have it on good authority via the fellow that our Lardy Boy claims he forked out 500 quid for that he did not pay for any hotel. His scam was as follows (and I will enquire for evidence)
    On arriving at a Hotel in Birmingham with his prospective Universal Matrix punter our Lardy Boy launched into a racist sexist attack on a hotel receptionist, Implying that she was a whore and suggesting that she had serviced half of Birmingham but most of them hadn’t paid her because she wasn’t very good at it. Yes what a nice chap our Lardy Boy is.

    The receptionist who was apparently a stunningly beautiful Asian lady was visibly in tears and understandably upset by Lardy Boys disgusting banter. But with grace and professionalism she registered Lardy Boy and his guest in. The next day whilst Lardy Boy was setting up a PA for the Universal Matrix gathering gig the manager asked to speak with Lardy Boy with regards to the incident at the reception.

    Later that afternoon the boyfriend of the receptionist had some not so friendly words with Lardy Boy defending the honor of the his girlfriend the receptionist and I believe demanded some satisfaction from Lardy Boy. Apparently our Lardy boy rather wisely declined and retreated back into the bosom and under the apron of Universal Matrix gathering.

    In fairness to our man Lardy Boy he did invite the receptionist over to his table later that afternoon but she quite rightly in my opinion declined Lardy boys invitation Not big on humility our lardy Boy and apologies does he do them?
    This must have been taken as a slight against the honorable Lardy Boy freeman and lay advisor under common law of the land, because when It came to pay for the rooms our man Lardy boy refused point blank.

    Sighting as a reason that he had nearly been assaulted by an angry young man while he was a guest in the hotel and because of that he was not paying for the rooms, about 160 quid in all. He did however as a gesture of goodwill on his behalf pay for a breakfast and dinner.

    I for one don’t doubt that the sum that Lardy Boy claims 500 pounds cash value, what ever that means is based on the same highly dubious dodgy recollection of events that Lardy Boy is so famous for.
    Lardy boy works everything out he does hes calculated he gives nothing without expecting a return. Lardy Boy may claim how great the Universal Matrix is but he’s not yet able to trust it enough to give up his old shyster ways just yet.
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    In yet another dazzling display,our man Lardy boy deftly avoided paying for his Restaurant meal.

    Lardy Boy has a history of this particular activity and this is far from being the first occasion.
    Lardy Boy is well versed in dodging paying bills even though he can well afford to do so.As I have said before its in his 'genes'.
    Lardy Boy selects his meal/meals,eats the majority of the food and then summons the hapless landlord/manager and complains in a loud voice for all to hear that the meal was sub-standard/cold/undercooked/tasteless or whatever.Usually he likes to add words such as 'do you know who I am' or 'my brothers a lawyer specialising in civil litigation' or I will sue you for every penny you own and will expose you through my many contacts in the media' etc,etc.
    Get the picture?
    The fact is that pub landlords dont like customers shouting the odds across the restaurant for all to hear,and so are usually only too happy to allow the customer to leave without paying.Mission accomplished for our conman Lardy Boy in this particular case.
    Unfortunately for Lardy Boy this landlord took a note of Lardy Boys numberplate and informed the Police.
    Subsequently an officer visited Lardy Boy at his current rented address and this video came into being,
    Sussex Police Interview | www.tpuc.org

    Of course,Lardy Boy denied who he really was,apparently he was just a piece of paper---oooh err!
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    Here is a reply recieved regarding our man Ray.


    cheekycherub


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    Hi folks, newly registered but not new to this geezer and his antics!!
    I am perturbed however that he advertises the CSA in his list of problems with court.
    Myself and hubby manage an organisation and we are the only ones who attend cases with fathers and have exposed so much corruption within the family court system it is unbelievable.
    We had the displeasure to deal with this person way back early on last year and i pulled the plug pretty sharpish. So glad i did and thankfully we managed to keep our organisation and did not fall for his blatant lies, we know however, some have not been so fortunate.
    We have a friend who knows of his partners ( CP) antics with the Pyramid sellng in the 80's.
    I would advise anyone to steer clear of him and all who are friends with him and he knows diddly squat about the CSA and Council Tax, we can tell you, he is going to land people in a boat load of trouble, STEER CLEAR!!!!!

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    Ray st Clair has become very adept at luring intelligient people to become partners in business ventures with him.He offers them of course "a ground floor opportunity in a global market".
    Even though the business is usually run out of Rays laptop computer.Rarely are there any actual office premises,after all that would bog down our leader Ray st Clair.
    Rays modus operandi is to move fast at building momentum for his business launch,using press release websites such as Pressbox.He will flood any available free source to gain credibility for the new ventures name.Currently he also uses Twitter,Ecademy,Facebook,Friendfeed,etc..
    Ray st Clairs strategy never varies,well you cant teach an old dog new tricks can you!
    1.Lure in new partners.
    2.Put them in lofty positions(ie CEO.)
    (after all its only a title)
    3.Bleed partners of their knowledge.
    (to be used to Rays advantage.)
    4.Relieve partners of all money possible.
    5.Dig up any dirt on partners.
    (to be used against them later.)
    6.Use the dirt to rid yourself of partners.

    Lets use Rays latest business enterprise as an example Welcome to tagopportunity.com

    Described as,

    "TAG will be the first Network in the world to successfully take the Finance Industry into the MLM format the company is established in AND Regulated in the UK by the Financial Services Authority.

    TAG is already looking to other countries and will be a global opportunity in no time at all."

    Sounds too good to be true.And yes it was.Ray soon bundled Stephen Hunt CEO out of the door claiming he had infringed Rays "intellectual property rights".This was followed by dumping all related websites(all designed by Ray of course) leaving all the new would-be associates who had paid their fees in the lurch.But never mind Ray st Clair had their money and could dine well on it!
    Fizzle-ffizzle,Plop-plop went,


    Welcome to tagopportunity.com
    http://www.tag-biz.com/
    http://www.tag-blog.net/
    http://www.tag-save.com/
    http://www.savewithtag.com/
    http://www.mycashbacknetwork.com/
    http://www.mytagnetwork.com/

    Heres Rays official blurb on the future of Tag.Now of course its past tense!
    Business Networking Group - TAG

    Welcome to TAG

    TAG Is the Great New System That Allows ANYONE to save money on Financial Products such as:-

    * Mortgages
    * Car Insurance
    * Life Assurance
    * Pet Insurance
    * Home Insurance
    * Pensions
    * Wills
    * Financial Planning
    * Tax Planning

    And Much more ...

    But more than that the system gives CASHBACK to every person who buys through TAG.

    Joining TAG is FREE and there is no obligation to buy anything, the free tools are worth having as these allow anyone to begin to get a grip of their financial situation.

    EARN RESIDUAL INCOMES WITH TAG ...

    There are TEN (10 Count 'em) Ways to Get Paid as a TAG Associate!

    * Direct Sales Bonus
    * Personal Sales Bonus
    * Fast Start Bonus 1
    * Fast Start Bonus 2
    * Generation Bonus
    * Team Leader Bonus
    * Promotion Bonus
    * National Revenue Share
    * Car Bonus
    * Global Revenue Share

    The PayPlan pays out on 6 Generations (Ensuring MAXIMUM) commissions.

    The Back Office System has been designed by world leading MLM software design experts and TAG is the first company to use the new system with never seen before features and tools allowing Associates to put their businesses on autopilot.

    TAG will be the first Network in the world to successfully take the Finance Industry into the MLM format the company is established in AND Regulated in the UK by the Financial Services Authority.

    TAG is already looking to other countries and will be a global opportunity in no time at all.
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    by Dr_ophalus on Fri Jul 10, 2009 12:02 pm
    hello wat

    the article is poorly written and doesnt tell anyone things they already know, it sounds like he's paraphrased John Harris.

    why is he using South African links?

    have a look at who this man Ray St Clair: Google ... arch&meta=

    "I will keep you all updated as I find out more! I Don’t know it all and if any of you feel like helping me out with knowledge then please email me via the TPUC.org site."

    he seems to be a scam artist?

    so i dig some digging on him, i ended up talking to The Earl of Bradford, he replied to me with this:

    He is a very dangerous - from a financial point of view in particular - man.

    His name is Gary Beaver and many people have cause to regret ever having met him.

    You will find plenty of information about him on the site, but there is much, much more.

    Do not get involved with him,.

    Best wishes,

    Richard

    PS. You should check with Debrett's, Burkes Peerage or the House of Lords Library, there is no Lord Raymond St Clair.

    ___________________

    here's the website, i found The Earl of Bradford: The Eager Beaver

    also without going into too much depth i found some really suspect companies that this ray character owns. i know quite a few people in the tech and web industry, along with loads of people in the media and some techy multi-millionaire investors and they all pretty much concur that they wouldnt touch this raymond with a barge pole, just for his presentation style and really unoriginal scheme-likened ideas, but here's some stuff on him first:

    Ray St.Clair - Business Networking on Ecademy
    http://www.checksure.biz/live/freesearc ... ID=4500364 - this one is weird, one of his links he says he has 16 or 17 companies?
    Ray St.Clair (raystclair) on Twitter

    these are some of his companies:

    multilevel marketing software development by Intrastore Ltd - unoriginal and marketing corporate rubbish
    Ray St.Clair - sounds like a salesman
    Welcome to tagopportunity.com - OPPSSS - good research there, looks like his handy work
    IIS7 - what a scam/rip off idea!
    http://www.metiertools.com - still not done

    _________________________________

    here is a brilliant analysis of ray's other poorly researched article by a friend - he's been given this information and he's still not updated it on his TPUC article nor his blog:

    TPUC Sussex Police Article

    Firstly - it relies on Dunn & Bradstreet as a reference as proof of an organisation being a
    "run for profit" company - this is essentially NOT the case, and using Dunn & Bradstreet as
    any proof is just NOT proof at all. Dunn & Bradstreet are a credit checking agency, and they
    will check credit for ANY group or individual that might do business. Any use of Dunn & Bradstreet
    as a proof is just no good.

    They guy then goes on to look at the domain for Sussex Police Authority he is unable
    to find the details for the domain registration - they were easy to find, he was just not using
    the right tools for the job.

    ---------
    Clearly we can see from the IP address and location listed in the who.is entry that this
    domain points to a server located in Police HQ in Sunbury on Thames. So given that we know
    this is a Police domain then why are we not entitled to know the full details of the owners,
    what is there to hide?
    ---------

    We are, it's not hidden, just not looking in the right place.

    here they are :

    ----------
    Domain:
    sussexpoliceauthority.gov.uk

    Registered For:
    Sussex Police Authority

    Domain Owner:
    East Sussex County Council

    Registered By:
    Pinnacle Internet Services

    Servers:
    ns1.pncl.co.uk
    ns2.pncl.co.uk

    Registrant Contact:
    Sean Nolan

    Registrant Address:
    East Sussex County Council,
    CRD ICT Services,
    County Hall,
    Lewes,
    East Sussex,
    BN71SF
    01273 481720 (Phone)
    01273 482848 (FAX)


    Entry updated:
    Monday 29th November 2004

    Entry created:
    Monday 27th October 2003
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    from - whois.domaintools.com

    So - the article then moves onto Duport - Duport are a company that aid people in setting up
    companies, getting domains registered, doing reporting from Companies House (You can buy most
    reports yourself from companies house for £1 a report). Duport are a COMPANY FORMATION AGENCY
    who also provide reports on Companies (and other organisations - like charities.)

    The Article then mentions - Sussex Police Authority Ltd (UC4457612) - Sussex Police Authority Is NOT
    a Limited Company - the Ltd has been added by the author - this is incorrect.

    The Article then goes on to looking at the Domain for Duport ... seems to lose any relivance to the
    Sussex Police Authority.....


    --------
    Now take a look at the related sites - WOW you will notice that duport.co.uk is connected (perhaps by registrant) to a load of other domains / sites. lets look at some of these:
    -------

    Yes Duport register domains for people......

    The rest of the article just seems to be someone googling about and joining dots together. We can all do this, it's very simple
    jumping to conclusions is the most simple task at hand - creating comprehensive unarguable evidence IS something that
    takes time.


    Essentially, I am not sure what the article is trying to prove - it's titled Sussex Police ... who are they really? and it ends up
    rambling on about Duport and how it's associated with a lot of different companies and domains - but by it's very nature Duport
    associates itself to lots of companies and domains.

    right at the bottom of the article we have

    ---------
    So why are duport and companies house showing companies that are allegedly (according to the above) "unincorporated" - my understanding is that only companies that are "incorporated" are shown in Companies House and Duport.
    ---------

    His understanding is wrong. Do a search on Duport and you will see Charities listed - much like Dunn & Bradstreet. Do a search on Duport for your old Primary School - it will Appear (mine did), as they are a place that can be traded with - Schools buy things.

    The reliance of Duport / Dunn & Bradstreet as any evidence is flawed, it's not evidence enough - and it's smells of laziness to hold it up as evidence, especially if that is the only Evidence being submitted.

    ________________________________________________

    so if this raymond is who i think he is, he's a scam artist looking to create a big database and following of YOU LOT and will try to insert all his internet marketing tricks in the mix. here's my analysis for what it is worth:

    http://www.raymondstclair.com - Freeman on the Land, Commentator and Activist

    i know how Google and the Internet works... so for those that dont, please read up on it... as its interesting how this raymond is pulling traffic to his own name away from TPUC... this is dishonest, would you lot just take loads of content from TPUC and not call whatever you're doing TPUC?

    his blog has pretty much stolen lots of content from TPUC and published it. he has also backlinked alot of the blog to the TPUC, this means that he will move up the rankings as his blog is associated with the TPUC - one day he could overtake TPUC in authority of certain areas in the search engines.

    he is quickly taking up lots of momentum from the TPUC and channeling it to his made up name Ray St Clair with all manner of Internet tools.

    he is proclaiming all manner of things with john, like he's john's best friend, mean while, anyone with a brain researches who he is, will think the TPUC are being scammed.

    i didnt know john harris had a Twitter feed? OHHHHH right, he doesnt yet, Ray is just assuming: tiwtter.com - United States twitter Resources and Information.

    he has still NOT updated his Sussex Police article to include the crucial info i gave john to give him, which makes his argument pointless, as you can see from my friend's analysis above.

    i think this man is after the database of the TPUC and this is one of the ways he thinks he will do it. i also think his plans are to make revenue from the TPUC with advertising and his newly-found database, i bet you and that will be the end of the purity of the TPUC. and as The Earl of Bradford explains, 'do not get involved with this man'.

    im worried about this raymond, what about you wat tyler?




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    by Dr_ophalus on Fri Jul 10, 2009 12:02 pm
    hello wat

    the article is poorly written and doesnt tell anyone things they already know, it sounds like he's paraphrased John Harris.

    why is he using South African links?

    have a look at who this man Ray St Clair: Google ... arch&meta=

    "I will keep you all updated as I find out more! I Don’t know it all and if any of you feel like helping me out with knowledge then please email me via the TPUC.org site."

    he seems to be a scam artist?

    so i dig some digging on him, i ended up talking to The Earl of Bradford, he replied to me with this:

    He is a very dangerous - from a financial point of view in particular - man.

    His name is Gary Beaver and many people have cause to regret ever having met him.

    You will find plenty of information about him on the site, but there is much, much more.

    Do not get involved with him,.

    Best wishes,

    Richard

    PS. You should check with Debrett's, Burkes Peerage or the House of Lords Library, there is no Lord Raymond St Clair.

    ___________________

    here's the website, i found The Earl of Bradford: The Eager Beaver

    also without going into too much depth i found some really suspect companies that this ray character owns. i know quite a few people in the tech and web industry, along with loads of people in the media and some techy multi-millionaire investors and they all pretty much concur that they wouldnt touch this raymond with a barge pole, just for his presentation style and really unoriginal scheme-likened ideas, but here's some stuff on him first:

    Ray St.Clair - Business Networking on Ecademy
    http://www.checksure.biz/live/freesearc ... ID=4500364 - this one is weird, one of his links he says he has 16 or 17 companies?
    Ray St.Clair (raystclair) on Twitter

    these are some of his companies:

    multilevel marketing software development by Intrastore Ltd - unoriginal and marketing corporate rubbish
    Ray St.Clair - sounds like a salesman
    Welcome to tagopportunity.com - OPPSSS - good research there, looks like his handy work
    IIS7 - what a scam/rip off idea!
    http://www.metiertools.com - still not done

    _________________________________

    here is a brilliant analysis of ray's other poorly researched article by a friend - he's been given this information and he's still not updated it on his TPUC article nor his blog:

    TPUC Sussex Police Article

    Firstly - it relies on Dunn & Bradstreet as a reference as proof of an organisation being a
    "run for profit" company - this is essentially NOT the case, and using Dunn & Bradstreet as
    any proof is just NOT proof at all. Dunn & Bradstreet are a credit checking agency, and they
    will check credit for ANY group or individual that might do business. Any use of Dunn & Bradstreet
    as a proof is just no good.

    They guy then goes on to look at the domain for Sussex Police Authority he is unable
    to find the details for the domain registration - they were easy to find, he was just not using
    the right tools for the job.

    ---------
    Clearly we can see from the IP address and location listed in the who.is entry that this
    domain points to a server located in Police HQ in Sunbury on Thames. So given that we know
    this is a Police domain then why are we not entitled to know the full details of the owners,
    what is there to hide?
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    We are, it's not hidden, just not looking in the right place.

    here they are :

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    Domain:
    sussexpoliceauthority.gov.uk

    Registered For:
    Sussex Police Authority

    Domain Owner:
    East Sussex County Council

    Registered By:
    Pinnacle Internet Services

    Servers:
    ns1.pncl.co.uk
    ns2.pncl.co.uk

    Registrant Contact:
    Sean Nolan

    Registrant Address:
    East Sussex County Council,
    CRD ICT Services,
    County Hall,
    Lewes,
    East Sussex,
    BN71SF
    01273 481720 (Phone)
    01273 482848 (FAX)


    Entry updated:
    Monday 29th November 2004

    Entry created:
    Monday 27th October 2003
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    from - whois.domaintools.com

    So - the article then moves onto Duport - Duport are a company that aid people in setting up
    companies, getting domains registered, doing reporting from Companies House (You can buy most
    reports yourself from companies house for £1 a report). Duport are a COMPANY FORMATION AGENCY
    who also provide reports on Companies (and other organisations - like charities.)

    The Article then mentions - Sussex Police Authority Ltd (UC4457612) - Sussex Police Authority Is NOT
    a Limited Company - the Ltd has been added by the author - this is incorrect.

    The Article then goes on to looking at the Domain for Duport ... seems to lose any relivance to the
    Sussex Police Authority.....


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    Now take a look at the related sites - WOW you will notice that duport.co.uk is connected (perhaps by registrant) to a load of other domains / sites. lets look at some of these:
    -------

    Yes Duport register domains for people......

    The rest of the article just seems to be someone googling about and joining dots together. We can all do this, it's very simple
    jumping to conclusions is the most simple task at hand - creating comprehensive unarguable evidence IS something that
    takes time.


    Essentially, I am not sure what the article is trying to prove - it's titled Sussex Police ... who are they really? and it ends up
    rambling on about Duport and how it's associated with a lot of different companies and domains - but by it's very nature Duport
    associates itself to lots of companies and domains.

    right at the bottom of the article we have

    ---------
    So why are duport and companies house showing companies that are allegedly (according to the above) "unincorporated" - my understanding is that only companies that are "incorporated" are shown in Companies House and Duport.
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    His understanding is wrong. Do a search on Duport and you will see Charities listed - much like Dunn & Bradstreet. Do a search on Duport for your old Primary School - it will Appear (mine did), as they are a place that can be traded with - Schools buy things.

    The reliance of Duport / Dunn & Bradstreet as any evidence is flawed, it's not evidence enough - and it's smells of laziness to hold it up as evidence, especially if that is the only Evidence being submitted.

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    so if this raymond is who i think he is, he's a scam artist looking to create a big database and following of YOU LOT and will try to insert all his internet marketing tricks in the mix. here's my analysis for what it is worth:

    http://www.raymondstclair.com - Freeman on the Land, Commentator and Activist

    i know how Google and the Internet works... so for those that dont, please read up on it... as its interesting how this raymond is pulling traffic to his own name away from TPUC... this is dishonest, would you lot just take loads of content from TPUC and not call whatever you're doing TPUC?

    his blog has pretty much stolen lots of content from TPUC and published it. he has also backlinked alot of the blog to the TPUC, this means that he will move up the rankings as his blog is associated with the TPUC - one day he could overtake TPUC in authority of certain areas in the search engines.

    he is quickly taking up lots of momentum from the TPUC and channeling it to his made up name Ray St Clair with all manner of Internet tools.

    he is proclaiming all manner of things with john, like he's john's best friend, mean while, anyone with a brain researches who he is, will think the TPUC are being scammed.

    i didnt know john harris had a Twitter feed? OHHHHH right, he doesnt yet, Ray is just assuming: tiwtter.com - United States twitter Resources and Information.

    he has still NOT updated his Sussex Police article to include the crucial info i gave john to give him, which makes his argument pointless, as you can see from my friend's analysis above.

    i think this man is after the database of the TPUC and this is one of the ways he thinks he will do it. i also think his plans are to make revenue from the TPUC with advertising and his newly-found database, i bet you and that will be the end of the purity of the TPUC. and as The Earl of Bradford explains, 'do not get involved with this man'.

    im worried about this raymond, what about you wat tyler?




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    Re: Ray st Clair.The real story.

    The word is finally getting around in the world of the media and website design that Ray st.Clair is to be avoided at all cost.He is actually an intelligient guy but unfortunately he turns all of his talents into forming bogus companies with the intention of conning all and sundry.If he turned to running legitimate enterprises,well,who knows,unfortunately scamming is his chosen profession.Maybe its in the genes.He certainly comes from a background of gypsy stock/council house/broken home/Im a "victim" mentality.

    Ray st.Clairs latest scam venture includes Ben Hulme,who appears to be an innocent party,as anyone who actually checked out Rays murky past would run the proverbial mile!Poor old Ben,it will be interesting to see how long their joint venture survives.Knowing Rays capacity for ripping off everyone in sight it shouldnt be too long.

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    Re: Ray st Clair.The real story.

    Re: Ray st Clair,grubby backstreet conman.

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    GARY MARTIN BEAVER aka RAY st.CLAIR.

    Intrastore Limited,a company showing 'no accounts submitted' ie 'dormant',domain name
    multilevel marketing software development by Intrastore Ltd
    which is registered in a CAR PARK at GATWICK.
    Raymond st Clair did a runner and resigned from this 'company' on 16.03.2008 after being exposed on scam.com as a fraudster,liar and general conman.HOWEVER he still claims on the Internet to be a Director!

    Its quite an interesting subject really,because Intrastore is absolutely typical of Gary Martin Beaver aka Raymond 'Lord' st Clair aka Major Ray st Clair BUSINESS EMPIRE.
    Our Super Elusive Supersleuth/Ace Detective/Mr Teflon/Natural Networker/Founder of The Inner Circle runs ALL of his BOGUS COMPANIES in the same fashion.
    Ducking and diving/bobbing and weaving is the name of the game.
    Having conned/mislead/duped/and STOLEN from practically everybody he has ever met,Gary Martin Beaver just simply HAD to change his name.He was actually RUNNING OUT OF COUNTRIES THAT WOULD ENTERTAIN HIM!
    Not many people achieve that 'status' do they?
    Give him a rousing ROUND OF APPLAUSE! Well done Gary!
    We will show in fine detail what he did next very shortly.


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