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    Heres the registered information from Companies House UK,where ALL businesses both live and defunct have to be registered.


    Order Information on 'INTRASTORE LIMITED'





    Use the tick boxes to select documents or reports from the lists below. Select the 'Add to Order' button to add to your shopping basket (up to £50 maximum order limit).

    Prices of documents or reports: £1.00 each.

    Click here for information on minimum software requirements

    Documents selected will be delivered to your personal download area. Please read the ORDERING GUIDE for detailed instructions.

    For company filing history please scroll down the page.




    Company Filing History Include Allotment of Shares

    Type Date Description Order
    AA 26/06/2009 31/08/08 TOTAL EXEMPTION SMALL


    363a 20/08/2008 RETURN MADE UP TO 01/08/08; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS


    353 20/08/2008 LOCATION OF REGISTER OF MEMBERS


    190 20/08/2008 LOCATION OF DEBENTURE REGISTER


    AA 30/05/2008 ACCOUNTS OF DORMANT COMPANY MADE UP TO 31/08/07


    288b 16/03/2008 DIRECTOR RESIGNED RAYMOND ST. CLAIR


    288a 09/10/2007 NEW SECRETARY APPOINTED


    363a 24/09/2007 RETURN MADE UP TO 01/08/07; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS


    288b 06/09/2007 SECRETARY RESIGNED


    287 06/09/2007 REGISTERED OFFICE CHANGED ON 06/09/07 FROM:
    NORTH LODGE GOFFS MANOR
    GOFFS PARK HORSHAM ROAD
    CRAWLEY
    WEST SUSSEX RH11 8PB


    287 14/08/2007 REGISTERED OFFICE CHANGED ON 14/08/07 FROM:
    C/O RICHARD PLACE DOBSON
    29 HIGH STREET
    CRAWLEY
    WEST SUSSEX RH10 1BQ


    288a 25/01/2007 NEW DIRECTOR APPOINTED


    NEWINC 01/08/2006 INCORPORATION DOCUMENTS
    CERTIFICATE OF INCORPORATION
    STATEMENT OF DIRECTORS & REGISTERED OFFICE
    DECLARATION OF COMPLIANCE
    MEMORANDUM OF ASSOCIATION
    ARTICLES OF ASSOCIATION
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    Here on Ray st.Clairs MySpace entry we can clearly see that he claims to still be Managing Director of Intrastore Limited.
    multilevel marketing software development by Intrastore Ltd
    Yet in the previous post Companies House have recorded his resignation in March 2008.Very strange,but also very typical of our "backstreet" conmans business style.Click on this link for the details.
    MySpace - Raymond St.Clair - 44 - Male - UK - myspace.com/curlybluemedia

    He is also claiming on MySpace

    Raymond St.Clair:
    Curly Blue Media Ltd
    London, UK
    Managing Director
    Executive







    Intrastore Ltd
    London, UK
    Managing Director
    Executive







    PropertStep.com Ltd
    London, UK
    Managing Director
    Executive







    The Lottery.TV
    Alicante, ES
    Managing Director
    Executive










    Lets have a run through some of his other dodgy claims.
    Curly Blue Media Limited.
    Goodness me what do we see recorded at Companies House? Yet another resignation as a Director,yet again though he is still claiming to be a current director!Also Curly Blue Media Limited is about to be struck off and dissolved by Companies House.Rays wife Tracy Amanda st.Clair resigned in March 2009.


    Type Date Description Order
    DISS16(SOAS) 12/06/2009 COMPULSORY STRIKE OFF SUSPENDED (DISS16(SOAS))







    GAZ1 26/05/2009 First Gazette







    288b 05/03/2009 Appointment Terminate, Director And Secretary Raymond St Clair Logged Form







    288b 04/03/2009 DIRECTOR RESIGNED TRACY ST CLAIR







    AA 30/11/2007 TOTAL EXEMPTION SMALL ACCOUNTS MADE UP TO 31/01/07







    DISS40 13/11/2007 STRIKE-OFF ACTION DISCONTINUED







    288a 27/09/2007 NEW DIRECTOR APPOINTED







    288b 06/09/2007 SECRETARY RESIGNED;DIRECTOR RESIGNED







    288a 06/09/2007 NEW SECRETARY APPOINTED







    287 06/09/2007 REGISTERED OFFICE CHANGED ON 06/09/07 FROM:
    NORTH LODGE GOFFS MANOR
    GOFFS PARK HORSHAM ROAD
    CRAWLEY
    WEST SUSSEX RH11 8PB







    363a 14/08/2007 RETURN MADE UP TO 28/01/07; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS







    287 14/08/2007 REGISTERED OFFICE CHANGED ON 14/08/07 FROM:
    C/O RICHARD PLACE DOBSON
    29 HIGH STREET
    CRAWLEY
    WEST SUSSEX RH10 1BQ







    AA 08/03/2007 TOTAL EXEMPTION SMALL ACCOUNTS MADE UP TO 31/01/06







    363s 21/09/2006 RETURN MADE UP TO 28/01/06; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS;DIRECTOR'S PARTICULARS CHANGED







    287 05/09/2006 REGISTERED OFFICE CHANGED ON 05/09/06 FROM:
    NORTH LODGE, HORSHAM ROAD
    CRAWLEY
    WEST SUSSEX
    RH11 8PB







    GAZ1 18/07/2006 FIRST GAZETTE







    288c 05/04/2006 DIRECTOR'S PARTICULARS CHANGED







    288c 05/04/2006 SECRETARY'S PARTICULARS CHANGED;DIRECTOR'S PARTICULARS CHANGED







    287 05/04/2006 REGISTERED OFFICE CHANGED ON 05/04/06 FROM:
    75 MAIN ROAD, GIDEA PARK
    ROMFORD
    ESSEX
    RM2 5EL







    288c 05/04/2006 SECRETARY'S PARTICULARS CHANGED;DIRECTOR'S PARTICULARS CHANGED







    288a 13/03/2006 NEW SECRETARY APPOINTED;NEW DIRECTOR APPOINTED







    288b 21/11/2005 SECRETARY RESIGNED;DIRECTOR RESIGNED







    288a 17/03/2005 NEW DIRECTOR APPOINTED







    288a 17/03/2005 NEW SECRETARY APPOINTED;NEW DIRECTOR APPOINTED







    288b 21/02/2005 SECRETARY RESIGNED







    288b 21/02/2005 DIRECTOR RESIGNED







    NEWINC 28/01/2005 INCORPORATION DOCUMENTS
    CERTIFICATE OF INCORPORATION
    STATEMENT OF DIRECTORS & REGISTERED OFFICE
    DECLARATION OF COMPLIANCE
    MEMORANDUM OF ASSOCIATION








    Then we have The Lottery.TV IIS7
    where Ray claims to be Managing Director.How very odd,because thelottery.tv is in fact no more than just a website.How can you be Managing Director of a non-existent company Ray? Do please tell us all,we would really like you to explain your business ethics to us all on this thread.
    Then we have Propertystep.com Limited.
    Oh No!! Guess what,Companies House dissolved and struck off this company on 31st March 2009.So how can Ray st.Clair still claim to be a Managing Director?
    Seems March was a very bad month for poor old Ray doesnt it,both in 2008 and 2009.

    Name & Registered Office:
    PROPERTY STEP.COM LIMITED
    3 BANK BUILDINGS
    149 HIGH STREET
    CRANLEIGH
    SURREY
    GU6 8BB
    Company No. 06025385










    Status: Dissolved 31/03/2009
    Date of Incorporation: 12/12/2006

    Country of Origin: United Kingdom







    Company Type: Private Limited Company
    Nature of Business (SIC(03)):
    None Supplied







    Accounting Reference Date: 31/12
    Last Accounts Made Up To: (NO ACCOUNTS FILED)
    Next Accounts Due:
    Last Return Made Up To:
    Next Return Due:
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    Ray st.Clair also tells lies on lots of other websites on the Internet.Well,he does live in "The Ray st Clair Fantasy Productions World!"

    On Linkedin he claims to have attended both Newcastle and Canterbury Christchurch Universities. Where he gained a Bsc (hons) in Applied Computing,Software Design 1985-1988.


    Not so Im afraid,having contacted admissions at both Universities,they have never heard of a Ray st.Clair.Furthermore Canterbury Christchurch have never run courses in Applied Computing!

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    Beat the Bailiffs/Curly Blue Media Limited.
    Yes,good old Curly Blue Media rears its head once again.Companies House UK have proposed for the second time to have the company struck off for failing to submit audited accounts.These are overdue once again this time since February 2008.
    Curly Blue has nine County Court Judgements (CCJs) registered against it,all recorded in the London Gazette
    London, Edinburgh and Belfast Gazettes Portal Page
    the official British website that records all such things. Strange then that our man Ray st Clair owner/host and writer of . -
    boasts to all and sundry that for a fee of £85 he can teach you how to avoid getting a CCJ registered against you!
    Isnt that obtaining money by false pretences Ray? Do let us have an answer,apparently lots of your camp followers are following this thread and would dearly like to know what their "rebel-leader" is up to.
    See this link for example,
    **** Christmas and **** you! « Independence Limited
    near the bottom you will find the heading,
    Truth about Ray st Clair.
    Strangely the link is from Rays own website,perhaps he hasnt noticed that it does him no favours!
    Anyway back to the story.Curly Blue Media a website hosting company,finally about to go defunct like all of Ray st Clairs enterprises do,is hosting a website for a hosting company! Yes you read it right the first time.
    Its called http://www.hostingboxed.com/
    registered to GB1222 which is one of Ray st Clairs/hidey hole names.(Ssshh its a secret).
    On the home page you will see what appears to be a professional looking company eager to do business,however when you click on any other page;
    Hosting.
    Tools.
    Support.
    Contact us.
    All you get is a load of gibberish in Latin! Also the homepage reveals a glowing testimonial from a Mark Robinson owner of flongy.com which when checked out actually doesnt exist! Ten out of ten for that one Ray!
    Also hostingboxed claims to be situated at 8901 Marmora Road Glasgow D04 89GR an entirely fictitious address which appears on literally hundreds of search engine entries!
    An example being:-
    I need your help, I'm from the US!?!? - Yahoo! Answers

    So what exactly is going on here?
    Over to Ray st Clair for an explanation.Why not drop him an e.mail and ask the question direct? Dont forget to ask for your special 'Beat the Bailiff' pack at the same time---!
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    For those of you unfortunate enough not to have yet obtained your Beat The Bailiff Pack which is apparently worth its own weight in yesterdays used fish and chip newspapers,

    Ray st Clair says Yes to CCJs

    Well he must do,as he has no fewer than 17 registered against his mighty business empire.Also take into account the fact that Ray is an ex-bankcrupt,and you can clearly see that Ray st Clair is an unbounded success,one to follow as a rebel-leader,one to take legal advice from as a speaker of wisdom,one to pay £85 to so you can attend a training day run by Ray st Clair on debt avoidance---,then again perhaps not!

    Tag Data Services Ltd.
    2 CCJs

    Curly Blue Media Ltd.
    9 CCJs

    Intrastore Ltd.
    3 CCJs

    Inner Circle Associates Ltd.
    1 CCJ

    CCS Direct Ltd.
    1 CCJ

    Thats a total of 16,well done Ray!
    We will be having a look shortly into your other "little business ventures" real soon,stay tuned for developments---.
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    Rays failed MLM enterprise,which went down like the Titanic with all hands on board!

    Ray st Clair has become very adept at luring intelligient people to become partners in business ventures with him.He offers them of course "a ground floor opportunity in a global market".
    Even though the business is usually run out of Rays laptop computer.Rarely are there any actual office premises,after all that would bog down our leader Ray st Clair.
    Rays modus operandi is to move fast at building momentum for his business launch,using press release websites such as Pressbox.He will flood any available free source to gain credibility for the new ventures name.Currently he also uses Twitter,Ecademy,Facebook,Friendfeed,etc..
    Ray st Clairs strategy never varies,well you cant teach an old dog new tricks can you!
    1.Lure in new partners.
    2.Put them in lofty positions(ie CEO.)
    (after all its only a title)
    3.Bleed partners of their knowledge.
    (to be used to Rays advantage.)
    4.Relieve partners of all money possible.
    5.Dig up any dirt on partners.
    (to be used against them later.)
    6.Use the dirt to rid yourself of partners.

    Lets use Rays latest business enterprise as an example Welcome to tagopportunity.com

    Described as,

    "TAG will be the first Network in the world to successfully take the Finance Industry into the MLM format the company is established in AND Regulated in the UK by the Financial Services Authority.

    TAG is already looking to other countries and will be a global opportunity in no time at all."

    Sounds too good to be true.And yes it was.Ray soon bundled Stephen Hunt CEO out of the door claiming he had infringed Rays "intellectual property rights".This was followed by dumping all related websites(all designed by Ray of course) leaving all the new would-be associates who had paid their fees in the lurch.But never mind Ray st Clair had their money and could dine well on it!
    Fizzle-ffizzle,Plop-plop went,


    Welcome to tagopportunity.com
    http://www.tag-biz.com/
    http://www.tag-blog.net/
    http://www.tag-save.com/
    http://www.savewithtag.com/
    http://www.mycashbacknetwork.com/
    http://www.mytagnetwork.com/

    Heres Rays official blurb on the future of Tag.Now of course its past tense!
    Business Networking Group - TAG

    Welcome to TAG

    TAG Is the Great New System That Allows ANYONE to save money on Financial Products such as:-

    * Mortgages
    * Car Insurance
    * Life Assurance
    * Pet Insurance
    * Home Insurance
    * Pensions
    * Wills
    * Financial Planning
    * Tax Planning

    And Much more ...

    But more than that the system gives CASHBACK to every person who buys through TAG.

    Joining TAG is FREE and there is no obligation to buy anything, the free tools are worth having as these allow anyone to begin to get a grip of their financial situation.

    EARN RESIDUAL INCOMES WITH TAG ...

    There are TEN (10 Count 'em) Ways to Get Paid as a TAG Associate!

    * Direct Sales Bonus
    * Personal Sales Bonus
    * Fast Start Bonus 1
    * Fast Start Bonus 2
    * Generation Bonus
    * Team Leader Bonus
    * Promotion Bonus
    * National Revenue Share
    * Car Bonus
    * Global Revenue Share

    The PayPlan pays out on 6 Generations (Ensuring MAXIMUM) commissions.

    The Back Office System has been designed by world leading MLM software design experts and TAG is the first company to use the new system with never seen before features and tools allowing Associates to put their businesses on autopilot.

    TAG will be the first Network in the world to successfully take the Finance Industry into the MLM format the company is established in AND Regulated in the UK by the Financial Services Authority.

    TAG is already looking to other countries and will be a global opportunity in no time at all.
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    Welcome to tagopportunity.com

    Tags company warcry is/was "YOUVE BEEN TAGGED!"

    Well,
    James Shaw
    Rick Walton
    Barry
    James Shaw
    Pete Chilcott
    Daniel Smith
    Stephen Hunt
    Gemma Daniels
    et al;

    I think it would be fairer to say youve all been "shagged" not "tagged" by our old friend Raymond (Lord) st Clair---!
    Why not join in on realscam.com and relate your experiences,so we can warn the world of business to avoid this man like the plague?
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    Looks like entrepeneur Ben Hulme has finally discovered what a "tosspot" Ray st Clair actually is,as GET YOUR FREE GIFT..... - Get the Social Media Masterclass for free... and http://www.braneyproductions.com/ have disappeared from view on Google and Yahoo,guess they where not so brainey after all.
    No surprise there then!
    We will be revealing Rays continuing exploits shortly,concerning his involvement with the mysterious "littleplasticcard"! Its a corker!
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    Our greasy little lump of lard Ray st Clair continues in his constant barrage of lies and self-promotion.Suddenly he is claiming on the internet to have spent the "eighties" as a semi professional musician having sessioned with many famous names!As he was born in 1965 the "eighties" would make him between the ages of 15 and 24!
    All very odd as he also recently claimed to have thirty years background in the IT industry.On another day he claimed his background was International Banking!
    Do make your mind up Ray old chap,to be a good liar you need a good memory,clearly you havnt.


    Ray St.Clair's Profile - Indaba Music

    Me




    Skill Level:
    Semi-Pro
    Craft:
    musician, composer, songwriter
    Instruments:
    Guitar (All), Piano (All), Keyboard (All), ukulele, Mandolin (All), mandola, Bass (All)
    Genres:
    rock, blues, bluegrass, funk (all), metal, country, classical
    Influences:
    Buddy Guy, Robert Cray, Stevie Ray Vaughan, Chris Thile, The Edge (U2), Mark Knopfler
    44 years old just wanna have fun! Used to play professionally now building my own studio in the house.



    Extended






    Day Job:
    Company Director
    Website:
    . -



    Working With Others






    How I Work:
    Just interested in collaborating - no strings, no ego


    Experience:
    Played in a number of pro bands and sessioned for many famous names in the 80's


    Equipment:
    Line 6 Variax 600, Line 6 POD XT Live, Line 6 Spider Jam III, Peavey 660x600 8 Channel PA Rig, 2 x Peavey Cabs * Stands, Takamine G Series Electro Acoustic, Fender D35 Electro Acoustic, Gibson Electro Acoustic Mandolin, Kala Electro Acoustic Tenor Ukulele, Ovation Soprano Electro Acoustic Ukulele, Digitech Vocalist Live 4, Sure Microphones etc etc
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    Unless of course you consider this racket "playing the gittar"!
    For those of you who dont know what our man Raymond st Clair scammer extraordinaire and Mr Internet looks like feast your eyes!

    YouTube - RaymondStClair's Channel

    Here Ray claims he is an Internet Leader & Teacher Helping others unravel the secrets to learning, understanding & unleashing the power of Social Networking for themselves
    About Me: I built my first computer aged 12 (way back in 1977) and since then have been an incredible journey thats still unfinished.

    Right now we are in the centre of a Social Networking revolution and my aim is to help others understand and learn to harness the awesome power of relationship marketing in the social spheres online.

    I aim to do this via my blog (http://www.raymondstclair.com) and via other standard Social Communicators such as Facebook, Twitter, Friendfeed, Tweetdeck, Youtube, tweetube and other cool Social tools
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    --and some breaking news just in from a reliable source--

    It appears Ray st Clair is still continuing to use his alias Lord st Clair.I had thought he had dropped the 'title' since his impromptu departure from sunny Spain in early 2006.Not so unfortunately,he continues to attempt to bamboozle one and all!
    He has recently created a petition under the name Lord st Clair to 'stop rogue private parking/clamping companies'on no lesser a website than
    Petition to: Stop Rogue Private Parking / Clamping Companies | Number10.gov.uk
    Apparently it has even elicited a reply from the Prime Ministers office.Pity they didnt check if Ray was a real Lord first!



    We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to Stop Rogue Private Parking / Clamping Companies. More details

    Submitted by Lord St.Clair of UKRights.org – Deadline to sign up by: 16 January 2008 – Signatures: 204
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    Look out also for another of Ray st Clairs dodgy websites,where you can be taught how to become one of the worlds wealthy 5%.At a price,of course!
    Well theres always a catch isnt there?
    Unfortunately Ray isnt yet a billionaire,though for the fat fee that he commands he is willing to pass on his secrets to success.Its a bit rich though(in a manner of speaking) as Ray owes money all over the place,and seldom pays his debts.

    Ray certainly enjoys diversity doesnt he?On the one hand he is tutoring all and sundry on how to beat the legal system, not pay TV licences,taxes,and how to beat the bailiff etc,and on the other hand he is punting information on how to become a millionaire! Lifes full of contrasts isnt it---!
    Catch all the action here on
    . has been temporarily suspended.

    [B]OH GOODNESS ITS BEEN SUSPENDED! NO SURPRISE THERE THEN![/B]

    Welcome to THE ANGELS DEN,where,if you have a good business idea---Ray will steal it,and then leave you in the lurch!Heres the lowdown:-


    Feb 18th
    What is The Universal Matrix?

    By TUM
    The Universal Matrix is a UK based organisation committed to delivering practical knowledge, help and understanding of timeless concepts that are necessary for individuals to manifest into their lives the wealth and affluence they desire.
    Less than five in every hundred British people ever achieve wealth and affluence, mainly because they are not aware of the connection they already have with the Universal Matrix. The minority who DO achieve wealth and affluence have done so by utilising the birthright connection we all have with the Universal Matrix, a connection that they either discovered by pure accident, or were lucky enough to be taught.
    By joining the Universal Matrix you will not only learn all about this connection, but you will also learn precisely how to effectively apply the connection and in doing so manifest into your life all the wealth and affluence you have ever dreamed of.
    The Universal Matrix offers a vast range of learning opportunities and support functions that will enable you to tailor your own unique learning experience and progress at your own pace towards the attainment of the affluence you desire. Not only this, but because of the unique way in which the Universal Matrix system has been designed, you will be part of a vibrant group of people who, in pursuing similar aims in life all support each other as they move towards the achievement of their life objectives.
    Join as a Student and attend the Student session of your local monthly seminar, download the 26 week audio training programme and e-book chapters week by week.
    Listen to interviews, watch seminar highlights, follow the latest Blogs, visit the Learning Centre and order books, audio books, CDs and DVDs that will expand your knowledge and understanding and thereby your effectiveness.
    Participate in the recommended reading and development programme.
    Go to the Unimat Store and browse the range of merchandise, mood music downloads, tranquillity videos to help you keep firmly centred in the Gap during stressful times.
    Join our on-line community and follow the Universal Matrix on Facebook and Twitter. Catch videos on Youtube.com
    As well as all benefits of the Student programme, there’s a defined career path mapped out that brings both financial and non – financial benefits for those who seek to progress to greater levels of knowledge and understanding. Your diet will be different from that of a Student since you will be committed to helping others achieve affluence in their lives, and to facilitate this you’ll be able to access weekly lesson sessions, advanced e-books, audio materials and also plug into the weekly Webinar as well as be able to enjoy personal coaching episodes.
    To help you look after your team in the most effective way possible you will be given a fully replicating website with a powerful back office system that will enable you to communicate and review in the blink of an eye.
    We know that success should be recognised, and so each month your success will be recognised both live at your Seminar and also online. You’ll be able to attend both Parts 1&2 of your monthly Seminar and bring a guest free of charge and you will also be able to participate in an exciting Social Calendar that includes quarterly functions and parties attended by famous guests, who share this wisdom and our values.
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    Income is derived from 5 cash pools, the first of which belongs to Wellchild and this contains 10% of all ex Vat fees generated.
    Graduates, Teachers, Principles and Masters will share in up to 4 cash pools, which will culminate in the potential to generate a substantial income over a period of time.
    Finally, the whole purpose of the Universal Matrix is to enable and guide you to affluence. As you begin to participate you’ll find that ideas for new businesses will come to you literally out of the blue! These should never be ignored as they are messages from the Universal Matrix for you to seriously consider as THE means by which YOU will create affluence.
    In recognising that you may not have the business expertise or financial resources to bring your idea to real live fruition, we have formed the ‘Angel’s Den’, which is a benign mixture of Dragon’s Den and Business Angels! You can put your ideas up to the Angel’s Den for confidential review but without the fear and trepidation that participants in Dragons Den must experience when they face the eagle eyed interrogation of the panel. If your idea has merit then we will partner you and provide all of the support and infrastructure you will need to launch and bring your business idea into live reality!


    MMM IT ALL SOUNDS A BIT MLM-ish!
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    The Universal Matrix Seminars(one of Rays latest scams),which you can attend for a rather large fee,usually follow this format.At the seminar close,unannounced Rays boys move in to sell you Credit Repair Services over coffee---very smooth!
    However once this was discovered the following ocurred:-


    Obviously caught in a bit of a flap,our grubby backstreet conman has swiftly dumped his recent bogus credit repair websites,
    Resovle - Cancel Loans, Overdrafts and Credit Cards

    In the mad rush to hide the evidence Ray completely forgot to delete,

    http://www.resolveteam.co.uk/new-sales-agents.html
    http://www.resolveyourfinances.com/

    Never mind,as he reads this thread numerous times each day,Im sure he will give this oversight his immediate attention.
    I wonder quite where this leaves Chris Pomelli the well known MLM promoter,who featured on the resolvenow website,and is currently listed as a speaker on the UniversalMatrix scheduled event?


    . has been temporarily suspended.

    The Universal Matrix is the source of all power. The greatest leaders of all time have used natural connectivity with this power to achieve all that they have achieved.

    From Gandhi to Mandela, from Martin Luther King to Churchill, from Hitler to Pope John Paul II.

    Today, the majority of all the wealth in the World is owned by less than 5% of the population. These people have learned how to use the Universal Matrix to manifest all abundance into their lives.

    At the Seminar you will learn that:-

    1. You have the same connectivity
    2. You have access to the same power
    3. Wealth is yours by right and we will show how you can achieve it
    4. Peace of mind, harmonious relationship and good health are all attainable through the Universal Matrix

    13:30 – 14:00 - Registration / Tea & Coffees
    .................................................. ...........................................
    14:00 – 14:10 - Welcome - Nancy Lear
    .................................................. ...........................................
    14:10 – 15:00 - What is the Universal Matrix - John Lear
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    15:00 – 15:30 - Teas / Coffees / Biscuits
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    15:30 – 17:00 - The Universal Matrix - Chris Pomelli
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    17:00 – 17:10 - Close - Nancy Lear
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    OH DEAR,RAYS LINKS KEEP DISAPPEARING FASTER THAN HE CAN PUT THEM UP!LOOKS LIKE HES ON THE RUN!WONDER IF ITS ANYTHING TO DO WITH PUBLICITY ON REALSCAM.COM?


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    The Universalmatrix.

    If yesterdays webinar is anything to go by,then Ray st Clair and Chris Pomelli would do well to reconsider their content.
    It all kicks off with Chris giving a sermon about not being the 'rabbit caught in the headlights',and then basically it all goes downhill from there.
    If this inaugarates the Universalmatrix tutorials then woe betide those willing to part with the exorbitant fees in search of financial enlightenment,because the course
    will leave them none the wiser in that respect,merely the poorer financially.

    The word 'Webinar' by the way is the latest buzzword for the latest fad of online meetings,that obviate those horrible things hitherto known as 'Seminars',thus avoiding those dreadful face to face confrontations with people you owe money to,something Ray st Clair is always keen to avoid.However he will have to emerge soon from behind his locked wrought iron gated rented property in order to face the music,---wonder if Schubert will be playing at the time?
    So without further ado---

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    Ahhh,found a link that works at last(well,currently anyway).Take a good look at this Ray st Clair website.
    Nice work actually,great design.Unfortunately though its all a con.I will explain in the next post---be patient---open the popcorn---sit back and relax,and enjoy the show!

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    This post is courtesy of El Scampio,a fellow scambuster,who I have invited to join me on this thread.

    I just wanted to write a word of warning regarding Ray's:

    The Universal Matrix Business Blog - books on law of attraction, law of attraction.ppt deepak chopraac meditation


    Looking at the site it is very hard to see what the actual business is!

    It is based on the "Law of Attraction". Googling Law of Attraction will bring up what that is about.
    That though is a cover to get someone hooked and wanting to know more.

    As i've stated, the site is very very light on detail of what the business is, this should always set alarm bells ringing!!

    The only hint you get is from this page:
    IIS7

    Career path beyond Student:
    Associate Student.
    Graduate: Qualifies with 3 Associate Students.
    Teacher: Qualifies with 3 Graduates.
    Principle: Qualifies with 3 Teachers.
    Master: Qualifies with 2 Principles and 2 Teachers
    To me, that looks very much like a Pyramid Scheme, THEY ARE ILLEGAL IN THE UK!

    If the business is being rewarded with a prize or paid with money for recruiting other people, then it is definitely a Pyramid Scheme!

    This article shows what Pyramid Schemes are about:
    Pyramid scheme

    Also Consumer Direct offer some very good advice:

    Protect yourself
    •Avoid schemes that offer money or a gift or reward based purely on signing up new members.
    •Don't agree to anything - or sign anything - at high-pressure meetings or seminars.
    •Don't hand over any money or sign a contract to participate in any multi-level marketing plan until you've investigated it. Take independent professional advice.


    Consumer Direct - Pyramid selling and chain gift schemes

    Note what the article and consumer direct are explaining, what they talk of sound VERY similar to what Ray is doing.

    The site offers no detail, they want you to go to a free meeting.

    What happens at the meeting is pivotal!! This is where they have you in a room to themselves for their hard sell!

    Remember Ray and his cohorts have been in the MLM business for many many years! They will have Neuro-linguistic programming training, in fact that is one of the services Norman Hinks offers!
    They will make the business sound spectacular but will not want to go in to detail! They will be persuasive, it is their job!


    Some tips if you go to one of the free meetings:

    DO NOT hand over any money WHATSOEVER! Nor hand over credit card, bank account details!

    DO NOT SIGN ANYTHING!!! If a contract is put in front of you DO NOT SIGN IT! If it is a legitimate business they will have no qualms with you taking the contract away for your solicitor to look over!

    Ask for their Company number and VAT registration number! If they are genuine they will have both and would be happy to give it to you!

    Think about it, if theuniversalmatrix was so good they would have their own head office and wouldn't be holding training/seminars in a hotel!
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    The Master Key System!

    El Scampio made a very pertinent statement regarding The Universal Matrix Business Blog - books on law of attraction, law of attraction.ppt deepak chopraac meditation
    Because looking at the website it is not immediately obvious what its actually all about.Googling ‘The Law of Attraction’ only tells part of the story.
    So just what exactly are they peddling?
    Ray st Clair has registered two new businesses at Companies House,Master Key Network Limited and Master Key Enterprises Limited,Chris Pomelli is also a co Director of one of these.But just what is their Master Plan? Apart from relieving you of your hard-earned cash of course!
    Members of The Universal Matrix,the source,apparently of the fountain of knowledge,and the Holy Grail of intellect,who wish to become enlightened and enriched will have to dig very deep into their pockets to find out exactly what is being offered.As they graduate from Student through the various stages to ‘Master of the Known Universe’ it certainly wont come cheap.After all Ray has a certain type of lifestyle to support,and his Bentley Arnage Red Label is imminently due to arrive!
    Father,has become aware(as is his want---) of this SECRET MASTER KEY in advance of its unveiling on The Universal Matrix Business Blog - books on law of attraction, law of attraction.ppt deepak chopraac meditation
    Thereby saving members oodles of cash and heaps of heartache,and is preparing to divulge these closely guarded secrets right here on www.realscam.com for FREE---!
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    Heres the introduction to the sort of BS Ray st Clair and his camp followers have in store fo their wannabe "Illuminatis".
    The costs have not and doubtless will not be revealed,unless of course you have enrolled on the 'way to enlightenment'.Be warned though,every step of the way will be paved with gold,yours that is,which will wing its way into Ray st Clairs back pocket.
    Ray has run numerous bogus 'churches' and 'charities' in his grubby past,and the Universal Matrix is nothing more than a variation on the theme.
    Its all about 'blagging money'a term Ray is very familiar with.
    Heres the blurb:-
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    Nature compels us all to move through life. We could not remain stationary however much we wished. Every right-thinking person wants not merely to move through life like a sound-producing, perambulating plant, but to develop, to improve, and to continue the development mentally to the close of physical life.

    This development can occur only through the improvement of the quality of individual thought and the ideals, actions and conditions that arise as a consequence.
    Hence a study of the creative processes of thought and how to apply them is of supreme importance to each one of us. This knowledge is the means whereby the evolution of human life on earth may be hastened and uplifted in the process.

    Humanity ardently seeks “The Truth” and explores every avenue to it. In this process it has produced a special literature, which ranges the whole gamut of thought from the trivial to the sublime - up from Divination, through all the Philosophies, to the final lofty Truth of “The Master Key”.

    The “Master Key” is here given to the world as a means of tapping the great Cosmic Intelligence and attracting from it that which corresponds to the ambitions, and aspirations of each reader.

    Every thing and institution we see around us, created by human agency, had first to exist as a thought in some human mind. Thought therefore is constructive. Human thought is the spiritual power of the cosmos operating through its creature man. “The Master Key” instructs the reader how to use that power, and use it both constructively and creatively. The things and conditions we desire to become realities we must first create in thought. “The Master Key” explains and guides the process.

    “The Master Key” teaching has hitherto been published in the form of a Correspondence Course of 24 lessons, delivered to students one per week for 24 weeks.

    The reader, who now receives the whole 24 parts at one times, is warned not to attempt to read the book like a novel, but to treat it as a course of study and conscientiously to imbibe the meaning of each part - reading and re-reading one part only per week before proceeding to the next. Otherwise the later parts will tend to be misunderstood and the reader’s time and money will be wasted.

    Used as thus instructed “The Master Key” will make of the reader a greater, better personality, and equipped with a new power to achieve any worthy personal purpose and a new ability to enjoy life’s beauty and wonder.
    Some men seem to attract success, power, wealth, attainment, with very little conscious effort; others conquer with great difficulty; still others fail altogether to reach their ambitions, desires and ideals. Why is this so? Why should some men realize their ambitions easily, others with difficulty, and still others not at all?
    The cause cannot be physical, else the most perfect men, physically, would be the most successful. The difference, therefore, must be mental - must be in the mind; hence mind must be the creative force, must constitute the sole difference between men. It is mind, therefore, which overcomes environment and every other obstacle in the path of men.

    When the creative power of thought is fully understood, its effect will be seen to be marvelous. But such results cannot be secured without proper application, diligence, and concentration. The student will find that the laws governing in the mental and spiritual world are as fixed and infallible as in the material world. To secure the desired results, then, it is necessary to know the law and to comply with it. A proper compliance with the law will be found to produce the desired result with invariable exactitude. The student who learns that power comes from within, that he is weak only because he has depended on help from outside, and who unhesitatingly throws himself on his own thought, instantly rights himself, stands erect, assumes a dominant attitude, and works miracles.

    It is evident, therefore, that he who fails to fully investigate and take advantage of the wonderful progress which is being made in this last and greatest science, will soon be as far behind as the man who would refuse to acknowledge and accept the benefits which have accrued to mankind through an understanding of the laws of electricity.

    Of course, mind creates negative conditions just as readily as favorable conditions, and when we consciously or unconsciously visualize every kind of lack, limitation and discord, we create these conditions; this is what many are unconsciously doing all the time.


    The Master Key is based on absolute scientific truth and will unfold the possibilities that lie dormant in the individual, and teach how they may be brought into powerful action, to increase the person’s effective capacity, bringing added energy,discernment, vigor and mental elasticity. The student who gains an understanding of the mental laws which are unfolded will come into the possession of an ability to secure results hitherto undreamed of, and which has rewards hardly to be expressed in words.

    It explains the correct use of both the receptive and active elements of the mental nature, and instructs the student in the recognition of opportunity; it strengthens the will and reasoning powers, and teaches the cultivation and best uses of imagination,desire, the emotions and the intuitional faculty. It gives initiative, tenacity of purpose, wisdom of choice, intelligent sympathy and a thorough enjoyment of life on its higher planes.

    The Master Key teaches the use of Mind Power, true Mind Power, not any of the substitutes and perversions; it has nothing to do with Hypnotism, Magic or any of the more or less fascinating deceptions by which many are led to think that something can be had for nothing.

    The Master Key cultivates and develops the understanding which will enable you to control the body and thereby the health. It improves and strengthens the Memory.
    It develops Insight, the kind of Insight which is so rare, the kind which is the distinguishing characteristic of every successful business man, the kind which enables men to see the possibilities as well as the difficulties in every situation,the kind which enables men to discern opportunity close at hand, for thousands fail to see opportunities almost within their grasp while they are industriously working with situations which under no possibility can be made to realize any substantial return.

    The Master Key develops Mental Power which means that others instinctively
    recognize that you are a person of force, of character - that they want to do what you want them to do; it means that you attract men and things to you; that you are what some people call “lucky”, that “things” come you way’ that you have come into an understanding of the fundamental laws of Nature, and have put yourself in harmony with them; that you are in tune with Infinite; that you understand the law of attraction, the Natural laws of growth, and the Psychological laws on which all advantages in the social and business world rest.


    Mental Power is creative power, it gives you the ability to create for yourself; it does not mean the ability to take something away from someone else. Nature never does things that way. Nature makes two blades for grass grow where one grew before, and Mind Power enables men to do the same thing.

    The Master Key develops insight and sagacity, increased independence, the ability and disposition to be helpful. It destroys distrust, depression, fear, melancholia,and every form of lack limitation and weakness, including pain and disease; it awakens buried talents, supplies initiative, force, energy, vitality - it awakens an appreciation of the beautiful in Art, Literature and Science.
    It has changed the lives of thousands of men and women, by substituting definite principles for uncertain and hazy methods - and principles for the foundation upon which every system of efficiency must rest.

    Elbert Gary, the chairman of the United States Steel Corporation, said “The services of advisors, instructors, efficiency experts in successful management are indispensable to most business enterprises of magnitude, but I deem the recognition and adoption of right principles vastly more importance.”

    The Master Key teaches right principles, and suggests methods for making a
    practical application of the principles; in that it differs from every other course of study. It teaches that the only possible value which can attach to any principle is in its application. Many read books, take home study courses, attend lectures all their lives without ever making any progress in demonstrating the value of the principles involved. The Master Key suggests methods by which the value of the principles taught may be demonstrated and put in actual practice in the daily experience.

    There is a change in the thought of the world. This change is silently transpiring in our midst, and is more important than any which the world has undergone since the downfall of Paganism.

    The present revolution in the opinions of all classes of men, the highest and most cultured of men as well as those of the laboring class, stands unparalleled in the history of the world.

    Science has of late made such vast discoveries, has revealed such an infinity of resources, has unveiled such enormous possibilities and such unsuspected forces,that scientific men more and more hesitate to affirm certain theories as established and indubitable or to deny certain other theories as absurd or impossible,and so a new civilization is being born; customs, creeds, and cruelty are passing;vision, faith and service are taking their place.

    The fetters of tradition are being melted off from humanity, and as the dross of materialism is being consumed, thought is being liberated and truth is rising full orbed before an astonished multitude.

    The whole world is on the eve of a new consciousness, a new power and a new consciousness, a new power and a new realization of the resources within the self. The last century saw the most magnificent material progress in history. The present century will produce the greatest progress in mental and spiritual power.

    Physical Science has resolved matter into molecules, molecules into atoms, atoms into energy, and it has remained for Sir Ambrose Fleming, in an address before the Royal Institution, to resolve this energy into mind. He says: “In its ultimate essence, energy may be incomprehensible by us except as an exhibition of the direct operation of that which we call Mind or Will.”

    Let us see what are the most powerful forces in Nature. In the mineral world
    everything is solid and fixed. In the animal and vegetable kingdom it is in a state of flux, forever changing, always being created and recreated. In the atmosphere we find heat, light and energy. Each realm becomes finer and more spiritual as we pass from the visible to the invisible, from the coarse to the fine, from the low potentiality to high potentiality. When we reach the invisible we find energy in its purest and most volatile state.

    And as the most powerful forces of Nature are the invisible forces, so we find that the most powerful forces of man are his invisible forces, his spiritual force, and the only way in which the spiritual force can manifest is through the process of thinking. Thinking is the only activity which the spirit possesses, and thought is the only product of thinking.
    .
    This is the process by which failure is changed to success. Thoughts of courage,power, inspiration, harmony, are substituted for thoughts of failure, despair,lack, limitation and discord, and as these thoughts take root, the physical tissue is changed and the individual sees life in a new light, old things have actually passed away, all things have become new, he is born again, this time born of the spirit, life has a new meaning for him, he is reconstructed and is filled with joy, confidence, hope, energy. He sees opportunities for success to which he was heretofore blind. He recognizes possibilities which before had no meaning for him. The thoughts of success with which he has been impregnated are radiated to those around him, and they in turn help him onward and upward; he attract to him new and successful associates, and this in turn changes his environment; so
    that by this simple exercise of thought, a man changes not only himself, but his environment, circumstances and conditions.

    You will see, you must see, that we are at the dawn of a new day; that the possibilities are so wonderful, so fascinating, so limitless as to be almost bewildering.
    A century ago any man with a Gatling Gun could have annihilated a whole army equipped with the implements of warfare then in use. So it is at present. Any man with a knowledge of the possibilities contained in the Master Key has an inconceivable advantage over the multitude.
    It has been said that The Master Key System is the book that Bill Gates read just before leaving Harvard to start his own computer software business, which made him the wealthiest man in the world.

    This book holds the secret of a powerful system of success, which was used by the author, Charles F. Haanel to amass his own mega-fortune through the starting of his own company, which he built into one of the largest conglomerates of his time.

    The Master Key System, which was originally published in 1912, sold over 200,000 copies before it was banned by the church in 1933 and was then lost to the public for some seventy years.

    The Master Key System lays down the foundation of the principles of creative manifestation through the Law of Attraction, as Haanel understood them. You will learn how to develop and use the creative instrument of your mind—creating true abundance in your life and opening up to the limitless possibilities of the truly creative life.
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    blah--blah---blah---blah---
    Yes theres loads and loads more.
    But where did Ray and Chris get the idea and the actual name Master Key and Universal Matrix from?
    Quite simply,the world wide web!
    Originally penned a hundred years ago,and currently marketed as a "re-discovery" by an American outfit,Ray st Clair in typical style thought up this latest get rich quick scheme,and simply plageurised it,doubtless infringing the copyright in the process!
    Heres the original source.


    The Master Key System, by Charles F. Haanel. Key to Abundance Audio Course
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    Here is a very interesting potted history of Raymond st Clairs bogus education and business empire,put together by El Scampio whom I hope will be joining me on this thread soon.We will also be exposing Rays faked schoolyears and highly dodgy,unethical and downright illegal business affairs---.

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    hi father,
    this is bill.
    i have looked at the thread?
    r u writing this?
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    Let's not forget Silver Securities Ray is part of: Silver Securities - Where To Buy Real Silver Now, Buy Real Silver

    The 'service' that actually ends up you paying the same price or more for silver!

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    Everyone was warned about what Ray was up to with the TPUC and the 'Freeman movement', then he started . -, where is is REBEL LEADER. Now he has the cheek to charge people for the privilege of seeing information that is FREE on the web and there are reports that people aren't getting access to this information:

    Hello All
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    FREEDOM REBELS TO BECOME A PAID MEMBER SITE FROM AUGUST 1st*2010
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    As you know the Freedom Rebels site was started in December 2009 and since that time the growth has been nothing short of phenomenal.**Thanks to all of you.
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    Our original target was to achieve 1000 users in the first year and 2000 by the end of the second year, however we have reached that 2000 member mark in just over 7 months.
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    The founders of the site have, to date, completely funded the cost of the site, the server, the development work and other items and thus far this has cost around £8,000 which has come from their own pockets with a glad heart. The ongoing monthly costs are increasing as the site grows and goes from strength to strength.
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    The servers have just been upgraded (again) to cope with the massive bandwidth and amounts of data we are pushing out daily and also with the massive amounts of traffic we are seeing every day.
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    The owners have a deep vision for this site and here are just some of the things in the pipeline:-
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    1.*******A fully automated freeman document creation centre to create any document you need instantly and online.
    2.*******A “Store my Document” feature that will allow you to keep all the documents you create in the site in your own “archive” so that you can retrieve and print them anywhere.
    3.*******An “in house” Notary service at a fixed price that will allow to create documents online and then receive them through the post NOTARISED for a fixed low fee.
    4.*******An e-Book Library where you will be able to find just about ANY book on any subject related to what we do – we already have over 300 books to upload.
    5.*******An online video training system to show you Step-By-Step how and why to complete various process such as Accepted For Value, Bond Redemption and Trusts etc.
    6.*******An Online repository for Banners, Logos, Leaflets, Posters that you can download and overprint your details**on and electronic versions you can use in emails and on sites etc.
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    Plus … Much Much More besides …
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    Of Course, You will still have access to all the features and information that you have come to know and love about the Freedom Rebels site.
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    We have tried to remain a free site as long as we could even to the point that we have never even put a “Donate” button onto the site.
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    However in order to grow and build Freedom Rebels into a truly global resource that unites and arms us all in this struggle we need to plan for the future and we therefore need to being to charge a membership fee.
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    We have spent nearly a month discussing how we should price the membership and our overriding rule was that it has to be affordable for those on even the lowest of income as we do not want to exclude a single member.
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    So, after much consideration we have arrived a staggeringly low price which is just …
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    We believe this is a completely affordable amount for anyone including those who are unemployed or on benefits. This price level means anyone can enjoy Freedom Rebels.
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    The need to implement**a paid membership scheme is not about profit, it is about securing the future of the site. We now have TWO Full time staff, 6 Moderators and TWO Developers working on the site and we need to be able to secure those people going forward to deliver on the features and functions that we want to bring you, the Freedom Rebels Community.
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    When looking at how people would like to pay we discovered that there are some who will want to pay in one go and this allows them to keep the cost low while it reduces our time overhead, hence it’s the cheaper option. However there are those who would like to pay monthly, this creates a large time overhead for us in tracking payments etc ergo the membership fee for this option is higher.
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    Plan B - Pay Yearly Price - £12.00 Per Annum (equivalent to 25 Pence per week)
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    PayPal is our chosen provider as most people have a PayPal account and are familiar with how to use it. Using PayPal does require you to own a Credit or Debit Card.
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    We do understand that not everyone has a Debit Card or Credit Card and so we have come up with a solution for this that we feel is suitable.
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    THE FREEDOM CARD
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    After more than two months of research we have found a NO CREDIT CHECK DEBIT CARD that you can have with NO NEED FOR ID of any sort and you DO NOT NEED A BANK ACCOUNT to have the card.
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    This is NOT a credit card (God Forbid!) this is a Pre-Paid Debit Card Solution that allows you to use it in the way you would use any other card where you see the MasterCard sign. You can only spend the balance you have on the card and you can never get into debt with it.
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    We have met the company behind it and are wholly satisfied with the system of how it works having tested it for a couple of months ourselves. (the facility to move money between cards, get balances and lots of other stuff via SMS is great!)
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    The cost of the card is a one-off £9.99 and you can order online right away. Remember you WILL NOT be asked for any ID nor will you be Credit Checked at all.
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    You can order your card here:-
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    http://order.freedomcards.me
    CONCLUSION
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    We are looking forward to continuing to build the site and the community with you**but like everything it takes time and money, however we are committed to the future growth of the site and our vision is that it becomes the number one resource around the world for Freemen & Freemwomen.
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    The truth is that if we do “our part” correctly then at some point in the future there will be no need for*FreedomRebels.co.uk*as we will have won this victory for ourselves and our future generations. I can assure when that day comes when we have to consign Freedom Rebels to the history books we will be as happy as everyone else to do so.
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    As John Harris once said to me while sipping Jasmine tea in my kitchen …
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    “All the worlds problems started on this island … its this island that will end them!”
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    FreedomRebels.co.uk*is just a part of the solution that will fulfil Johns words.
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    Until then we need to keep going and build upon what we as a community have already achieved and this growth and the vibrancy of the site to date is all down to you, the Freedom Rebels Community.
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    So, we ask you to support the site into the future and we are proud of your commitment that has helped us to grow to where we are.
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    We, Salute you, Our Brothers & Sisters, Freemen & Freewoman of the world.
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    OVRNOUT
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    Rebel Leader
    & The FRN Team

  25. #50
    ray st.clair is offline Junior Member
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    Sep 2010
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    Re: Ray st Clair.The real story.

    Ray has got together with this company and is promoting it within his Freedom Rebels site: Freedom Prepaid Credit Card, Pre paid Mastercard Pre pay debit card who deal in CREDIT CARDS OF ALL THINGS - called 'FREEDOM CARD' - I cannot believe this! He's encouraging Freemen and the Lawful Rebellion lot to sign up to CREDIT!

    Incredible stuff, he even uses John Harris as his endorsement!

    "As John Harris once said to me while sipping Jasmine tea in my kitchen …

    “All the worlds problems started on this island … its this island that will end them!”

    FreedomRebels.co.uk is just a part of the solution that will fulfil Johns words.
    Last edited by ray st.clair; 09-23-2010 at 09:14 AM.

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