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    Re: Bayshore Capital Investments and the BH Group

    Oh, I dunno, there's a lot of people buying Dinar, dumb as it seems, and I kind of think these guys are getting something from whomever is selling all those pretty pictures....

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    I thought that might be the case, but I have confirmed from somebody who has met him that he's not Stephen Anthony Breitling. In fact his last name isn't really Breitling, according to Roger Dorman of Dinar Daddy. I'm still working on this and I'll let you guys know what I find out.

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    Okay, Breitling's name is Tony Elder and he lives in Vegas.

    Tony's Twitter page
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    Tony's blog - Iraq Investments: Apr 24, 2011

    One of his friends on Facebook is Angela Pack Dorman from The Treasury Vault. The smoking gun IMO.

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    Re: Bayshore Capital Investments and the BH Group

    Thats a good find.

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    I questioned Rudy on one of his posts on Florida Dinar Face Book, in which he claims that he is dying. I said this was not the place to post your personal issues. If that is the case I feels sorry for him, but he never posts anything on value ab0ut the Hedge Fund. He responded by sending me email threatening me with all the power he has and with the help of all his fellow Marines and his IT guys. I cannot list his post as I was deleted from his face book page.

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    Re: Bayshore Capital Investments and the BH Group

    Have you gotten any more info on him?

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    Re: Bayshore Capital Investments and the BH Group

    First thing I noticed is he claims to have a degree in "Economics and Engineering" from University of Colorado at Boulder.

    I thought that was a strange combination, so I was less than surprised to find University of Colorado at Boulder doesn't offer a degree in Economics.

    He might be an engineer, though.

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    Rudy the false alarm has stated
    "My life has been very transperent, and anyone can check on it.

    I have had commendations and recognition for my involvement in Desert shield and desert storm"
    so I did..and what I found out on his so called military career was that he was never over seas..and spent less then one year in the USMC before he was discharged..

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    My name is Rudolph Coenen, i am the person who spoke to Hannity, 2 weeks ago on his radio show. Everyone was wondering who i was, and where did i get my information. I live in Jacksonville, Fl and have been in the Banking business for 15 years. In 1982 i joined the Marine Corps, and had a wonderful 12 year career, Semper Fi. You can google my name and look at my background. I studied International Finance at the University of Colorado, and received my masters in economics. My last position was with JPMCHASE in there cdo dept, and i had a 420million dollar portfolio. I also owned a mortgage company called DIRECT LENDING, we did loans thru out the U.S.
    I am well known in the banking industry and have had my own radio show and also have been a contributor to fox news.
    My life has been very transperent, and anyone can check on it.
    well anyone was busy so 'No One" richie chop did check
    I have had commendations and recognition for my involvement in Desert shield and desert storm







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    rudy where's the proof we hold 5.5 TRILLION IQD??????..I know you musta copy'd and typed it some where
















    this guy is by far not a "Good OR Smart Christian"!!! LOL check this out!!! 16 records on him...but here are three from his arrest in the county jail!





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    12058 San Jose Blvd

    Jacksonville, FL

    (904)268-7702





    FICTITIOUS BUSINESSNAME STATEMENT
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    THE NAME OF THE BUSINESS:

    ECONO LUBE N' TUNE #257

    LOCATED AT: 1122 WEST VALLEY PARKWAY
    IN: ESCONDIDO CALIFORNIA 92029
    IS (ARE) HEREBY REGISTERED BY THE FOLLOWING OWNER(S):
    RUDOLPH M. COENEN
    31727 VIA SAN CARLOS
    TEMECULA, CA 92592
    This business is conducted by:
    an Individual
    THE TRANSACTION OF BUSINESS BEGAN ON: 5/27/97
    RUDOLPH M. COENEN
    THIS STATEMENT WAS FILED WITH RECORDER/COUNTY CLERK OF SAN DIEGO COUNTY ON MAY 27 1997
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    COENEN, RUDOLPH
    Jail Number: 2009015502
    HTML Printer-Friendly Version

    JSO ID: 710318


    RELEASED







    Inmate Information




    Housing Location:

    Admitted:04/12/2009 04:12 AM

    ID Check Completed: Y

    Released: 04/18/2009 05:39 PM Release Reason: TIME SERVED

    Bond Agency: N/A

    Bond Agency Address: N/A

    DOB: 11/11/1964 Age: 45 Sex: M Race: W

    Height: 600 inches Weight: 165 pounds Hair: BLACK Eyes: BROWN

    Arrested: 04/12/2009

    Expected Release Date: N/A

    Address: 10347 NAKEMA DR W

    City: JACKSONVILLE State: FL Zip: 32257-0000

    Visitation Information:
    N/A


    Completed Admissions Process: N/A

    How Long in Jax? (YY/MM):4/0

    Next Court Date: No Pending Court Date

    Payment Required for Release: * N/A

    Arresting Agency: JACKSONVILLE SHERIFF'S OFFICE

    Length of Sentence: N/A

    Pending Unsentenced Charge(s): No




    Charge Information




    Statute: S784.03 Description: BATTERY / DOMESTIC
    Bond: N/A Fine: N/A Purge: N/A Blanket Bond Group:
    Charge Type: MISD Capias/Warrant: N/A Case #: N/A OBTS: 1602187133
    Date Entered: 4/12/2009 4:12:05 AM Charge Status: CHARGES DROPPED
    Jurisdiction: N/A
    Sentence Date: N/A Years: 0 Months: 0 Days: 0
    Sentencing Judge: N/A
    Charge Comments: N/A
    Incident Number: 2009299689






    Active Hold Information




    Applied Date: Type:
    Agency: Case No.:






    COENEN, RUDOLPH MARTIN
    Jail Number: 2009029856
    HTML Printer-Friendly Version

    JSO ID: 710318


    RELEASED







    Inmate Information




    Housing Location:

    Admitted:07/14/2009 10:29 PM

    ID Check Completed: Y

    Released: 07/15/2009 06:54 PM Release Reason: TIME SERVED

    Bond Agency: N/A

    Bond Agency Address: N/A

    DOB: 11/11/1964 Age: 45 Sex: M Race: W

    Height: 600 inches Weight: 185 pounds Hair: BLACK Eyes: BROWN

    Arrested: 07/14/2009

    Expected Release Date: N/A

    Address: 10347 NAKEMA DR W

    City: JACKSONVILLE State: FL Zip: 32257-0000

    Visitation Information:
    N/A


    Completed Admissions Process: N/A

    How Long in Jax? (YY/MM):4/0

    Next Court Date: No Pending Court Date

    Payment Required for Release: * N/A

    Arresting Agency: JACKSONVILLE SHERIFF'S OFFICE

    Length of Sentence: N/A

    Pending Unsentenced Charge(s): No




    Charge Information




    Statute: S322.34(2) Description: LICENSE; KNOWINGLY OPER VEH W/ DL SUSP, CANCELLED, REVOKED
    Bond: N/A Fine: N/A Purge: N/A Blanket Bond Group:
    Charge Type: MISD Capias/Warrant: N/A Case #: N/A OBTS: 1603025689
    Date Entered: 7/14/2009 10:29:02 PM Charge Status: CHARGES DROPPED
    Jurisdiction: JSO
    Sentence Date: 07/15/2009 Years: 0 Months: 0 Days: 0
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    Charge Comments: N/A
    Incident Number: 2009586434



    Statute: S316.193(3)(C)1 Description: DUI - CAUSES DAMAGE TO PERSON OR PROPERTY
    Bond: N/A Fine: N/A Purge: N/A Blanket Bond Group:
    Charge Type: MISD Capias/Warrant: N/A Case #: N/A OBTS: 1603025689
    Date Entered: 7/14/2009 10:29:02 PM Charge Status: TIME SERVED
    Jurisdiction: N/A
    Sentence Date: 07/15/2009 Years: 0 Months: 0 Days: 0
    Sentencing Judge: N/A
    Charge Comments: N/A
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    Statute: S316.193(1) Description: DUI - UNDER INFLUENCE OF ALCOHOL OR CHEMICAL SUBSTANCE; FACULTIES IMPAIRED
    Bond: N/A Fine: N/A Purge: N/A Blanket Bond Group:
    Charge Type: MISD Capias/Warrant: N/A Case #: N/A OBTS: 1603025689
    Date Entered: 7/14/2009 10:29:02 PM Charge Status: CHARGES DROPPED
    Jurisdiction: N/A
    Sentence Date: 07/15/2009 Years: 0 Months: 0 Days: 0
    Sentencing Judge: N/A
    Charge Comments: N/A
    Incident Number: 2009586434






    Active Hold Information




    Applied Date: Type:
    Agency: Case No.:





    COENEN, RUDOLPH MARTIN
    Jail Number: 2009043048
    HTML Printer-Friendly Version

    JSO ID: 710318


    RELEASED







    Inmate Information




    Housing Location:

    Admitted:10/11/2009 11:18 PM

    ID Check Completed: Y

    Released: 10/12/2009 07:15 PM Release Reason: SURETY BOND

    Bond Agency: BAIL BOND EXPRESS

    Bond Agency Address: 1125-1 CESERY BLVD, JACKSONVILLE, FL, 32211

    DOB: 11/11/1964 Age: 45 Sex: M Race: W

    Height: 600 inches Weight: 175 pounds Hair: BLACK Eyes: BROWN

    Arrested: 10/11/2009

    Expected Release Date: N/A

    Address: 10347 NAKEMA DR W

    City: JACKSONVILLE State: FL Zip: 32257-0000

    Visitation Information:
    N/A


    Completed Admissions Process: N/A

    How Long in Jax? (YY/MM):6/0

    Next Court Date: No Pending Court Date

    Payment Required for Release: * N/A

    Arresting Agency: JACKSONVILLE SHERIFF'S OFFICE

    Length of Sentence: N/A

    Pending Unsentenced Charge(s): No




    Charge Information




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    Date Entered: 10/11/2009 11:18:37 PM Charge Status: SURETY BOND
    Jurisdiction: JSO
    Sentence Date: N/A Years: 0 Months: 0 Days: 0
    Sentencing Judge: N/A
    Charge Comments: N/A
    Incident Number: 2009853078



    Statute: S322.34(2) Description: LICENSE; KNOWINGLY OPER VEH W/ DL SUSP, CANCELLED, REVOKED
    Bond: $10,003.00 Fine: N/A Purge: N/A Blanket Bond Group: 1
    Charge Type: MISD Capias/Warrant: N/A Case #: N/A OBTS: 1602204971
    Date Entered: 10/11/2009 11:18:37 PM Charge Status: SURETY BOND
    Jurisdiction: JSO
    Sentence Date: N/A Years: 0 Months: 0 Days: 0
    Sentencing Judge: N/A
    Charge Comments: N/A
    Incident Number: 2009853078
























    He is married has 4 daughters lives in Jacksonville, Florida.

    Was with Direct Lending.

    Works for Hepitias C Foundation to raise money for research.

    Is on a waiting list for liver transplant.









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    San Diego Source > Notices



    looked it up...he in fact was arrested in Duvall County, Jacksonville , FL...and had another case against him in court with a business partner who uses an ALIAS



    sent to me from another concerned member



    If you were on the CC call when "HE" was introduced, he explained his ONE criminal record of domestic violence as protecting his wife from his brother in law "IN CALIF". I believe there is a few more then ONE Hmmmmmm That is odd because the criminal background that was exposed on him and civil judgments were found in a county, oh about 5000 miles away from CA. Hmmmm long ride in a cop car to jail, ya think??? Thus a lie to thousands of peeps, and they, including Frank, believed it. I was told He gave name, phone number and location to all on DV site and asked everyone to search him out. They did and exposed MUCH that he had to explain to DV and they banned him. KTFM was given the links to do their own research and I feel they may have ignored it, because I feel they would never have highlighted this rudy knowing the truth and yet hearing him tell provable lies on the CC. They should have done their research. It just so happens that Jax, Fl is in Duval county that has a public search web site that is free and for public access. Duval arrest records for a crime in CA,??? NOT!!! What about all the OTHER charges??? He was never asked, so he never explained on the CC at KTFM. What about the civil records in Duval county. Hmmmm IRS Lien, and yet Frank asks him to discuss banking, finance, and TAX ADVICE??????? Some People CHOOSE to wear blinders and some people just are blind. Frank is not blind, just needs to OPEN his eyelids to see. Enough for now. Thanks again. Duval county arrest records and civil judgments speak for themselves. I have said nothing against anyone. The public record speaks much louder than any person.... He also has a "partner in his intentions", a dinar web site, a facebook to gain personal info, and an agenda that NO ONE knows yet.. IMO All behind the scenes. SO once again, if what you stood for last night helps protect the blind or closed eyes folks, great and the ones that choose to wear the blinders.... They WILL get what they are asking for... IMO..











    BELOW LINK IS WHERE RUDY GOT "HIS " HCL POST the first post here....AGAIN PLAGERIZEING AND NOT ADDING LINKS TO WHERE HE COPYED AND PASTED...OHHH. I FORGOT HE CANT COPY AND PASTE HE DONT KNOW HOW TO DO THAT?????...LOL......AT LEAST THATS WHAT HE SAID!....AGAIN WORD FOR WORD....HE COPIED AND TYPED IT AND FORGOT TO ADD LINKS..... AND FAILED TO MENTION WHO REALLY WROTE THAT SECTION...... LIKE A THIEF IN THE NIGHT...AND FRANK PLACED HIM BACK INTO KTFM WATERS TO FEED AGAIN....WHY IS HE STILL HERE AND WHY DOES FRANK26 AND COMPANY CONTINUE TO FEED THE SHARK...IDF'nK



    I could tell the orange is his..cause that's a retarded statement..but I am No One! IMO...For IRAQ to claim that it solely survives on 95% of GDP on OIL AND GAS...my edumacated guess is.......................HCL is very Important to the IQD and its REAL RATE....Again remember .......I Am No One!





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    RUDY SEZ.......:

    "SO LET’S TALK ABOUT THE ISX AND HCL AND THE DINAR

    here is the law for you to review and understand it is already in place, it has

    no current bearing on the dinar or its revalue, the IMF has already taken this

    into consideration, so quit believing this needs to pass before the Dinar can

    revalue

    A Hydrocarbon Law which advocates a radical restructuring of Iraq’s oil industry

    was approved by the Iraqi cabinet in February. If passed by parliament, the law

    will mark a milestone in Iraqi history a shift of Iraq’s massive reserves from

    public to private hands. It could see private companies develop and profit from

    Iraq’s oil for 15-30 year periods with virtually no possibility for the Iraqi

    State to renegotiate contractual terms and conditions. The first draft of the

    oil law was produced to a timeline set by the International Monetary Fund. The

    IMF ordered, as a condition of debt relief, the issuance of an oil law by

    December 2006. This law had to open up Iraq oil (for the first time in over30

    years) to long-term investment by foreign oil companies. Finally produced in

    July 2006, the first to review it and comment on it were 9 multinational oil

    companies, the British government and US government. It would be eight






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    this guy is by far not a "Good OR Smart Christian"!!! LOL check this out!!! 16 records on him...but here are three from his arrest in the county jail!





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    Sent: 10/6/2010 11:52:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time
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    Well, I am furious tonight ( no, our investment is fine & all good to go, don't worry about that )

    Rather than send the usual stuff I am sending only this, and not even going to attempt to find a "nice polite way" to convey any of it.

    It will all speak for itself and for your own protection & that of your dinar friends I encourage you to read every word carefully.
    This "Rudy" guy ( whoever he might really be ) seems to have ingratiated himself suddenly from out of nowhere at multiple forums, including ktfm, raises more red flags with me than anything I have seen yet since we've all been in this thing.

    All that follows is the OPINIONS of myself and others, I do not know the man personally nor do I wish to.

    For your own sake & the safety of your investment, I caution you MOST STRONGLY to take anything you read "recommended" by him with a whole cupful of salt & do your due diligence to investigate further before blindly following his or anyone else's advice on how to handle your dinar money or other ''good investments."



    many of the "most highly educated & knowledgeable dinarians" who I personally know have had some pretty strong concerns & reservations about this guy for some time. There are reasons why I wrote you all the other day saying I WOULD NOT be sending any info about his "forex webinar"



    I want you all to keep your investment & enjoy it's rewards, just as I wish to enjoy the rewards of mine.

    How heartbreaking it would be to lose it all in an instant....... and this "rudy" claims to be quite the "ace" at that, which tells me with complete certainty he knows that is a game for only & exclusively the most highly trained expert traders.

    Just watch out for this guy, whatever forum you might find him in, I truly honestly simply do not believe that he has YOUR best interests at heart.



    Please excuse the strong and/or ugly language contained within some of this, I am not editing anything. although i am somewhat embarrassed for myself, it is best ( i feel ) to just share all this straight & honest as it occurred.



    I feel really bad for Frank, for he means only well, honest & for real. None of us are perfect but Frank does try his heart out & I really wonder if it isn't slowly killing him, inside & out.

    this rudy jerk could get ktfm sued & wiped out totally bigtime, in more ways than one. I know he is exhausted, and I am told he is having health problems as well.
    He needs prayers for sure, real ones from the heart, too many people in there are 'counting on him & what others say in there" FAR more than they ever should rather than "take responsibility" for themselves.

    Now their very best & true-loving "security guard" has been banned while a "snake" is left to roam free there at will.



    It is my sincere hope that by sharing this tonight, it will stick as a good reminder, now more than ever as we draw close to the finish line, to be EXTREMELY CAREFUL about guarding yourself & your family from "wolves in sheep's clothing."







    This was my note to Richie..who is now BANNED AGAIN..



    Hey Richie, was able to catch these before they delete everything.

    This is the biggest crock of bullshit yet.

    I have a present for you beneath the posts from me and xxxxxx, at least there are a few of us who understand what you just did and are SUPER GRATEFUL for it. xxxxxxxx said fine to copy for you.

    Furious right now, can't think. Need to go in there and get banned myself now - F THEM! They can't even figure out you're trying to save ktfm & its members from complete legal & financial destruction by this viper.

    i am just sick inside right now

    how blind can people be?







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    It's been a while since I've updated this thread and I thank the people who have posted for their continuing contributions. I was just weeding through the linkbacks at the bottom of the page and I found a highly amusing one. I've known Rudy Coenen was conducting periodic conference calls for his phantom hedge fund but didn't summon up the curiosity to track them down. Boy was that a mistake.

    I'm listening to a rather lengthy and bull crap filled rant from Rudy blaming all of Bayshore Capital's problems on the head of his former exclusive marketing arm, one Bradford Heubner. If you're interested in the con artist equivalent of an argument between a lobster pot pirate and a fishmonger's wife, allow me to direct your attention to this MP3 link. I wont have detailed comments on the call at this time as I'm too busy laughing my ass off for that. Soon.

    And a tip of the hat so to speak to Mr.IDQ for the link to the call. As strange as it is to say, I kinda missed hearing Rudy lie his ass off.
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    The word of the day is Renumerated. lol

    Rudy is so cute when he tries to sound like he knows what he's talking about. I lost count of the number of times Rudy said "renumerate" when he meant to say remunerate. I somehow doubt that anyone getting their investment advice from Rudy knows what remunerate means so he's golden.

    It's fairly impossible to prove Rudy was lying about some of the things he was accusing Brad of doing behind the scenes so we fall back on the old axiom that you accord trust in matters which can not be proven in proportion to how trustworthy they are in matters which can be proved. Let me make this clear, I am no fan of Brad Huebner but Brad can speak more than three sentences in a row without telling an outright lie, I don't think Rudy can do the same.

    Highlights from the call:

    Early in the call Rudy states that BayShore Capital Investments is registered with FINRA. Again, this is the link to their search tool, I tried every variant I could think of (BayShore Capital Investments, Bay Shore Capital Investments, BayShore Capital, ect.) perhaps someone else will have better luck but I sure as hell don't find it or Rudy's name in there.

    Now the following is a "foundational" lie in so far as so much of his subsequent arguments are built off it. Rudy is now claiming that all the applications to his hedge fund and all the $750 checks were mailed directly to Brad and the BH Group and for a long time Brad wouldn't send him a list of the applicants to the fund and when he finaly did send him the info it was in an unusable form. THIS he claims is why the hedge fund hasn't been created yet and why he can't issue refunds. I posted a copy of the application form in the seventh post in this thread from which I quote:

    Un-refundable Application Fee: $750 (Enclose Check payable to: Bayshore Capital Investments, LLC)
    INCEPTION INVESTOR SEAT ALLOCATION
    FOR IRAQI HEDGE FUNDS I AND II
    Sign Name
    Print Name Clearly
    RETURN SIGNED CONTRACT
    AND CHECK TO:
    Bayshore Capital Investments, LLC
    10347 Nakema Dr. West
    Jacksonville, FL 32257
    ATTN: Rudolph Coenen, CEO
    So Rudy, how did the checks and the applications end up with Brad in Toledo when you had people mail them to your home in Jacksonville? This is a huge lie and he circles back to it time and again because it serves as a pat answer for why he can't give people their money back. The real reason he can't give it back is he's spent it already*, but he can't blame Brad for that. He can't even keep his lies straight, how can Brad be the reason the hedge fund doesn't exist when it says in black and white on his application form the the hedge funds wont be created until 21 days after the Dinar RV's to at least parity to the dollar. Maybe Brad is to blame for the Dinar not "RV'ing?"

    This sorta dove tails into Rudy's many claims that BayShore was paying the freight for web development, travel and entertainment expenses and even the rent on Brad's office. Rudy's financial misfortunes are well documented early in this thread, foreclosures, a repossession, a tax lien ect. If Rudy wasn't receiving all the $750 checks I don't think it would have been possible for him to come current on his mortgage let alone bank rolling "Brad's lavish lifestyle."

    Rudy also expressed shock and outrage that Brad was telling people that the only way they could join the hedge funds was to purchase dinar from the BH Group. Rudy pretends that he put his foot down and angered Brad when he demanded that practice stopped. Again from the application to join the funds (linked above):

    Due to the overwhelming response for this initial offering, the only fair way to allocate Seat Positions for the Iraqi Hedge Fund, LP I and II is to base it on the total amount of Iraqi Dinars purchased DIRECTLY from The BH Group up until this subscription is closed. All BH Group members will receive a questionnaire asking you to confirm the total amount of Dinars you’ve purchased from The BH Group and if you’re interested in participating in the Iraqi Hedge Fund I or II.
    Rudy has a very accurate opinion of the people who trust and respect him, he treats them like morons. One possible definition of the word "expert" is an idiot who knows how to attract people even less informed than they are and who knows how to bewitch them. No truer words have ever been spoken about Roudolph Coenen.

    Less a lie than willful stupidity (well, both) but Brad and Rudy were gearing up to kick off a subscription website for Dinar news ($29/month) and the now infamous "Dinar Summit" was an attempt to get Roger, Scooter, Tony and the other Gurus to promote the site on the promise that they would receive $5/month for every signup they sent to the site. Rudy was "shocked" because they couldn't afford to pay $5 for each of what was sure to be at least a few hundred thousand signups and again proving his mental mastery of all things financial he failed to understand that each of those signups would have been a $24/month asset and not a $5/month liability and they only cost $5/moth as long as they were paying in $29/month. But Rudy has never been any good with money.

    I've been hemming and hawing over if to include this one, but Rudy claims that a web design company recommended by Brad charged Rudy $130,000 for a website and delivered him a very substandard product. I can't ~prove~ he's lying but I'm sure he is. I wont mention the company name or the name of the principles involved, I don't want to cloud their reputation with Rudy's lies. But I've seen examples of their work and they do a fine job. The owner is a respected entrepreneur who's only involvement in this sad sordid tale is they were hired to build websites for a sociopath.

    There are other examples from the call but this much is clear, Rudy's head is buried so far up his ass he uses his navel as a blow hole.


    * - On a re-listening to the call Rudy admits his bank accounts have been seized so perhaps there is some small hope of partial refunds to his victims. The amusing thing is Rudy blames Brad for this as well, I wonder if his DUI was Brad's fault too.


    And a late edit to add a BlogTalkRadio link to more of Rudy's BS. 832 million dollars committed to his fund, but yet he has only 18 people on the call. He also admits that the Treasury Department and the IRS are both issues complicating the launch of his funds. He claims he had his whole trading platform set up and in place ready to roll but the IRS seized it. It's long enough past April 15th for me to feel great personal warmth and genuine affection for the IRS at this moment. (But that's probably Brad's fault too.)
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    It's been a while since I've updated this thread and I thank the people who have posted for their continuing contributions. I was just weeding through the linkbacks at the bottom of the page and I found a highly amusing one. I've known Rudy Coenen was conducting periodic conference calls for his phantom hedge fund but didn't summon up the curiosity to track them down. Boy was that a mistake.

    I'm listening to a rather lengthy and bull crap filled rant from Rudy blaming all of Bayshore Capital's problems on the head of his former exclusive marketing arm, one Bradford Heubner. If you're interested in the con artist equivalent of an argument between a lobster pot pirate and a fishmonger's wife, allow me to direct your attention to this MP3 link. I wont have detailed comments on the call at this time as I'm too busy laughing my ass off for that. Soon.

    And a tip of the hat so to speak to Mr.IDQ for the link to the call. As strange as it is to say, I kinda missed hearing Rudy lie his ass off.
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    You are most welcome Mr. IQD, welcome to RealScam.

    I've seen my words and my work copy and pasted in a bunch of places with and without attribution. I don't do any of this for money so I appreciate the people who simply give me credit and am likewise happy to give credit where it's due.
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    "I am no fan of Brad Huebner but Brad can speak more than three sentences in a row without telling an outright lie ...."
    I'm not so sure about that, GD. Have you listened to Dinar 101? Did you catch his latest conference call? He's a total douche.

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    Seeing that both Brad and Rudy are playing the pass the buck game I thought they might like a reminder of how cozy they once were together:



    Hedge fund I & II seat holders, you'll soon be seeing that whether the "RV" happens or not, Rudy will never set up his hedge funds. I would encourage you to remain in contact with as many other Bayshore investors as possible and together investigate the possibility of initiating a class action lawsuit. I suspect there are more than 1,000 of you out there so even if the case can't be tried on a contingency basis you can divide up the initial attorneys fees across a lot of you. The problem being that Rudy was having documented financial problems prior to receiving your non refundable application fees and there's a valid question as to what percentage of your money would be available for recovery. But I think your attorney can advise you about adding Brad Huebner and possibly even Charley Emmenecker as co defendants. They quite arguably share culpability here with Rudy and I suspect their pockets are deep enough that you could all get your money back.
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    Local men charged with fraud in multi-million dollar scheme to sell Iraqi currency Posted: Sep 20, 2012 7:20 AM PDT Updated: Sep 20, 2012 9:10 AM PDT A federal grand jury returned an 83-count indictment charging three men from the Toledo area and a Florida man for their roles in the operation of a $24 million fraud scheme involving the sale of Iraqi dinar currency and two non-existent hedge funds, said Steven M. Dettelbach, United States Attorney for the Northern District of Ohio, and Darryl Williams, Special Agent in Charge, IRS-Criminal Investigation, Cincinnati field office. Those charged are: Bradford L. Huebner, 65, of Ottawa Hills, Ohio; Rudolph M. Coenen, age 47, of Jacksonville, Florida; Charles N. Emmenecker, 65, of Sylvania, Ohio, and Michael L. Teadt, 66, of Maumee, Ohio. The men are charged with conspiracy to commit wire fraud and wire fraud. Coenen and Huebner are also charged with multiple counts of money laundering. Additionally, Huebner is charged with multiple counts of structuring and willful failure to file currency and transaction reports.


    The men are charged with conspiracy to commit wire fraud and wire fraud. Coenen and Huebner are also charged with multiple counts of money laundering. Additionally, Huebner is charged with multiple counts of structuring and willful failure to file currency and transaction reports. As a result of the defendants' conduct, investors lost nearly $23.8 million from dinar sales and more than $700,000 from the sale of non-existent hedge fund "seats" and "placements," according to the indictment. "These defendants made false statements time and again to convince people to part with their savings and hard-earned cash," Dettelbach said. "The fact that one defendant falsely claimed he was wounded while fighting in Iraq is particularly egregious." The indictment charges that beginning about August 2010, Huebner, Coenen, Emmenecker and Teadt conspired to operate "BH Group" in Toledo and "Bayshore Capital Investments" in Jacksonville in order to defraud investors through investments in the Iraqi dinar currency and two non-existent hedge funds.

    http://www.13abc.com/story/19594414/...iraqi-currency

    Hopefully there are more indictments to come.

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    Sam I am beat me too it, but from the Toledo Blade:

    3 Toledo-area men charged in scheme to sell Iraqi money

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    [U.S. marshals escort, from left, Bradford L. Huebner, of Ottawa Hills, Michael L. Teadt, of Maumee, and Charles N. Emmenecker, of Sylvania, from U.S. District Court in Toledo following their arraignment, Thursday. THE BLADE/DAVE ZAPOTOSKY ]


    Three Toledo area men pleaded not guilty Thursday to federal charges that allege they were involved in a multi-million dollar scheme involving the sale of Iraqi currency.

    Bradford L. Huebner, 65, of Ottawa Hills, Charles N. Emmenecker, 65, of Sylvania, and Michael L. Teadt, 66, of Maumee, appeared for arraignment before Magistrate Judge James Knepp II. All three men entered not guilty pleas through their attorneys.

    The 83-count indictment issued Thursday also named Rudolph M. Coenen, 47, of Jacksonville, Fla. Mr. Coenen was not in court.

    According to court documents, the men were charged for alleged involvement in the operation of a $24 million fraud scheme involving the sale of Iraqi dinar currency and two non-existent hedge funds. Each faces charges of conspiracy to commit wire fraud and wire fraud. Mr. Huebner and Mr. Coenen are also charged with multiple counts of money laundering, and Mr. Huebner is charged with multiple counts of structuring and willful failure to file currency and transaction reports.

    Steven Dettelbach, the U.S. Attorney for the Northern District of Ohio, said that the defendants’ conduct resulted in a loss to investors of nearly $23.8 million from dinar sales and more than $700,000 from the sale of non-existent hedges funds.
    [Link to the rest of the article on the Toledo Blade]

    Wow, is about all I can say. I knew Rudy was going down and figured Brad was in hot water as well. But I was under the misapprehension that Charley didn't have a financial stake in the BH Group. Oh well, maybe he can sell Xango in prison.

    And a late edit to add:


    Ohio indicts Jacksonville man in Iraqi dinar fraud scheme

    Posted: September 20, 2012 - 12:28pm | Updated: September 20, 2012 - 12:53pm
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    A Jacksonville man was among four people named Thursday in an Ohio indictment linking them in a scheme to sell Iraqi currency.


    Rudolph Martin Coenen, 47, of Jacksonville was named in the 83-count indictment.
    The indictment involves the operation of a $24 million fraud scheme with the sale of Iraqi dinar and two non-existent hedge funds.


    Through a website and in conference calls, the men are accused of promoting the dinar and the hedge funds to investors who lost nearly $23.8 million from dinar sales and more than $700,000 from the sale of non-existent hedge funds. Each faces charges of conspiracy to commit wire fraud and wire fraud.


    “These defendants made false statements time and again to convince people to part with their savings and hard-earned cash,” U.S. Attorney for the Northern District of Ohio Steven Dettelbach said in news release to the Toledo Blade. “The fact that one defendant falsely claimed he was wounded while fighting in Iraq is particularly egregious.”


    [Link to the story on Jacksonville.com]
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    This is the part of the job I love. It's one thing to echo a call from the wilderness and send out the warning to anyone with the ears to hear it. That's what we do. But it's another thing to see so much of what you'd said repeated in a Federal indictment (which should be attached to this post).

    In reading the indictment all I can say is, sucks to be you Rudy (and Brad, and ,...). It's been over a year since the raid and it looks like someones been spending that time doing their homework. This isn't a simple little tax issue or a simple little failure to file thing, this is a well coordinated and thoroughly researched legal action. And again, Sucks to be you Rudy. And you earned it.

    One phrase I see often enough to toll like a bell, "together with other conspirators know and unknown to the Grand Jury." Tony Elder, Rodger Dorman, Scott Pember, they're talking about you and I don't think they're saying nice things.

    If only there was a way to get James Wolf added to this list. Oh well, "Adam's" day will come soon enough (or near to it).
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    As a result of the defendants' conduct, investors lost nearly $23.8 million from dinar sales
    So much for the argument that selling dinars is a relatively harmless pastime and not worth comment.
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    This is the part of the job I love. It's one thing to echo a call from the wilderness and send out the warning to anyone with the ears to hear it. That's what we do. But it's another thing to see so much of what you'd said repeated in a Federal indictment (which should be attached to this post).

    In reading the indictment all I can say is, sucks to be you Rudy (and Brad, and ,...). It's been over a year since the raid and it looks like someones been spending that time doing their homework. This isn't a simple little tax issue or a simple little failure to file thing, this is a well coordinated and thoroughly researched legal action. And again, Sucks to be you Rudy. And you earned it.

    One phrase I see often enough to toll like a bell, "together with other conspirators know and unknown to the Grand Jury." Tony Elder, Rodger Dorman, Scott Pember, they're talking about you and I don't think they're saying nice things.

    If only there was a way to get James Wolf added to this list. Oh well, "Adam's" day will come soon enough (or near to it).
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    Howdy Gregg, it might be the work day from hell I just got through but I'm having a hard time seeing how to link to specific posts over at the Q. So for general consumption I'll link to the page and quote part of what I posted:

    Re: Lies my Dinar Guru Told me

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    Thank you N.D. and for as long ago as it was since I've read any Lovecraft it still makes me feel a little shuddery to say Thank you Cathulhu (but I'll say it anyway, from inside a pentagram). I may have been an early reporter of what Rudy and Brad were doing but from a "how did they get here" perspective I'd be looking for a smoking gun near a telephone in a well secured bunker guarded by a savage daschund.
    OK, so I did figure out how to link to a specific post, but I'll quote it here anyway. Cause when you're dealing with the Illuminati you roll like that. Heute die Welt, Morgens das Sonnensystem !!!
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    I gotta hand it to ya GD. You called Rudy a fraud before anybody. The indictment completely vindicates you. Thanks for taking the lead on this.

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    That's my new favorite indictment ever. It pretty much destroys all the internet myths about the Dinar all while showing what lying scumbags these guys were. I love what they say about Rudy and his military service and his 1 day career with JPMorgan Chase.

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    Just a bit of a BH Group news round up:

    Published: 9/21/2012


    Bond set at $500,000 for Ottawa Hills man charged in Iraqi money scheme

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    An Ottawa Hills man charged with conspiracy and wire fraud over his Toledo business' alleged duping of investors in the sale of Iraqi currency was ordered released today from jail, but with tighter restrictions than two employees also charged in the case.

    Bradford L. Huebner, 65, of 2936 Pembroke Rd., Ottawa Hills, is charged with conspiracy to commit wire fraud, wire fraud, and multiple counts of money laundering.

    An 83-count indictment naming Mr. Huebner, who is chairman of BH Group, 17 N. St. Clair St., which specialized in the sale of Iraqi currency; Charles Emmenecker, 65, and Michael Teadt, 66, was unsealed Thursday after the three men were arrested. Later that day, all three men pleaded not guilty during their arraignments in U.S. District Court in Toledo.
    [Link to the Toledo Blade story.]

    Mug shots have an amazing ability to be less than flattering. One side effect of "stalking" for information on a person over a span of time is a strange form of emotional transference. Compared to Rudy Brad seems like a very nice guy and in a weird way I genuinely "like" him.

    I didn't post the following due to an agreement I had with him but earlier this year Brad was getting set to market a "trust product" to his BH Group. In exchange for all the information he had on the product and the principles involved I told him I wouldn't comment on his involvement as long as he wasn't selling them. My suspicions were correct, the "trust product" was a slightly redressed "Pure Trust" scam. The important thing is Brad was open to advice and he never did market the product.

    So it's kinda strange to find myself saying this but looking at that mug shot makes me a little sad. But then I remind myself that even after the IRS raided him over a year ago he continued to sell the dinar as an investment. If he didn't know what he was doing was illegal it's because he never bothered to ask one of his attorneys. That or he didn't believe the answer he got when he did.

    Now the following is something I have a few questions about:



    More coverage:

    Published: 9/22/2012 - Updated: 10 hours ago


    2 who bought Iraqi currency file suit against indicted sellers, firms

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    A civil lawsuit was filed in Lucas County Common Pleas Court Friday by two Texas investors against four men and their companies accused of a criminal scam involving the sale of Iraqi currency.


    In the civil case, John R. Merritt and Arley G. Lee say they each purchased several thousand dollars of Iraqi dinar based on the representations of the defendants and that the defendants’ actions were in violation of the U.S. securities laws. Toledo attorney Thomas Pigott, who filed the complaint, said that he plans to ask that the lawsuit be made into a class action to cover all the investors who bought into the alleged scheme.
    “Our case is different than the federal criminal allegations in that we are alleging violations of the federal securities act,” Mr. Pigott said.


    In addition to the four defendants, the lawsuit specifically names Energy Savers Advisors LLC, which does business as the BH Group; Bayshore Capital Investments LLC of Jacksonville; Treasury Vault LLC of Draper, Utah; and Dinar Trade Inc., of Las Vegas.
    [Link to the Toledo Blade story.]

    I was contacted a few days ago about this suit and I had a few apprehensions about it. But the fact that Rodger Dorman's Treasury Vault and Ali Agha's Dinar Trade were added as defendants changes the picture a bit. Last I heard Rudy had blown through his "seat allocation" money and had been representing himself (for now at least) in court. Brad had a lot of his assets seized already and was passing the hat for dinar donations and I don't really know how much Xango money Charley was bringing in. I didn't really see much money they could be sued for but you add Rodger and Ali and it makes a bit more sense.

    Anyone who lost money to Brad and Rudy might consider contacting the law firm, Pigott, LTD. But if you do I ask a favor. I have been given assurances that this case is being taken on a contingency basis, meaning they only get paid if they win and recover money from the defendants. If the firm asks anyone for money up front I would like know about it. That and I've attempted to put them in touch with our esteemed Mr. Evans who could be a tremendous asset in preparing for the discovery process. That and Gregg knows "not quite right" when he sees it, if Pigott et. al. are willing to deal with him it's a safe bet they're on the up and up.

    [Link to the class action complaint.]
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