Thread: Adlandpro. Jill Bachman and Her Andy Bowdoin Connections.

There are a lot of naysayers who played games with autosurfs and HYIPs for small change when the concept was introduced. The majority have woken up to the fact and spoken out about the mistakes which we made. That is how we learned that HYIPS and autosurfs were not games.

The notable exception to this rule is Jill Bachman who was the first (in my memory) to promote the notorious Andy Bowdoin as a serious business opportunity on Adlandpro. Her following grew and grew. Jill has never admitted that she made a mistake and that Andy was nothing but a common crook. Jill did not pocket small change, she earned big bucks from the promotion this so called opportunity to Adlandpro members. Who is running the protection racket for Jill Bachman?

Jill and the owner of Adlandpro have teamed up to promote, (what at first glance could appear to be a nutty thread for those who want to believe in extra terrestrials.) However the extra terrestrials have a bank on this planet which is promoted in Jill Bachman’s signature as The Humanitarian Bank.

It is time for scam busters to start investigating this woman who seems to enjoy the protection of Bogdon Fiedur and find out more about Bogdon Fiedur, Jill Bachman and The Humanitarian Bank which very probably has some sort of connection to Andy Bowdoin.

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Adlandpro. Scammer of The Week Awards.

People elected for this award used to be people who helped other members with technical problems or those who knew a fair bit about on and off line business practices. The Person of The Week Awards are now being handed out to the biggest scammers and ponzi promoters.

This week's winner of Adlandpro Person of The Week Award is Maurice Bernier who is Adlandro's "town crier" calling for all the members to join F5Mmillionaires Club. It is sad but this man could suceed in soliciting big funds for the scam with the blessings of a so called Adlandpro employee Barry Scott. Is Barry Scott an employee or is he Bogdon Fiedur with a different user name?

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One of the new scams being promoted by a leading member of Adlandpro heirarchy. Does anybody know anything about this one? Fortune2x2

Well, Well, Well.

Carl Haavaldson a well known pimp, who promotes dodgy matrices on Adland is working with none other than "manalo" who posts on TG and has another user name for MMG, (strosdegoz). Could Carl be yet another "manlo identity"

It may be worth asking Adlandpro management to look into this matter as a senior member of Adlandpro who should be helping to police this board (Roger Macdavitt) has decided that matrix programs which are offered by Carl are bona fide and he presents this Fortune 2x2 in his signature files when he posts at Adland.

Can any members here find out more about Adland highly respected member Carl Haavaldson and his previous record of dodgy matrix promotions?

Evidence about Carl's onvolvement copied from TG. See Post 44 on Fortune2x2 - Fortune2x2.com - Page 5 - Talkgold HYIP, Investment & Money Forum
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We have good news for members regarding compression of the 2x10 matrix.

Fortune2x2 will extend the period for members to upgrade and keep their pre-registration positions until Jan 15 2011. (midnight MST)

Why was it important that this extension be granted?

1. Many members continue to ask for extensions, due to the holiday season with members being away and not able to access computers.
2. We are doing our next commission run on Jan 15, so it makes sense to payout Dec 2x10 commissions together with the mid month cycle commissions all at the same time.
3. This will allow new members to continue to sign for free for another 12 days before they are compressed out of the matrix.

Beginning Jan 15, free registration will end.

All new members wanting to join Fortune2x2 will pay at the time of registration. (This will mean no more unpaid grey avatars in your 2x10).

We are very excited at the number of people joining us each day and the continuing number of people upgrading daily.



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All members who were paid out through Alertpay will have their commissions reset to 0 and new commissions from the 2x2 added.

Members who did not update their back offices in time for the commission run will continue to see your owed commissions and will be paid out at the next payrun Jan 15.



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I am pleased to say that one of our RealScam members, "okosh" has traced "manolo" AKA (strosdegoz) and discovered one of his other identities. He is also Dirson Eduardo Jimenez Santana (Strosdegoz) on Facebook.
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Okosh has placed his photograph on post 38 of this thread. Club Asteria - club-asteria.com

Manolo, who is working with Adlander Carl Haavaldsen to promote Carl's training videos which Manola says, are to be used in social networking programs, is an associate of Santana who is attempting to get his hands on your money with programs like (Club Asteria, Zubie.net, Fortune2x2 and Cash Twist)

Adlander (Franchisco DeJesusus) is helping with the promotion of Zubie in this group of programs. There are several adlanders named here. 3 new scammers join hands: They started ponzi called Zubie - Page 2 - WORLD Law Direct Forums

Any Adlander or anybody who has friends at Adland who has been conned into believing that this matrix is a genuine business opportunity should learn more about Santano's matrix and warn him or her to get links or banners off their pages. ImageShack® - Online Photo and Video Hosting

I was absolutely horrified to see that some members of Adlandpro have this nauseating "Christian Pastor" listed as a friend. This despicable porn merchant and hell fire raiser whom RealScam has debunked, is very probably a member of Adlandpro Community (possibly with a different user name) as I found several members of Adlanders in Facebook who have him as a friend. YouTube - Wiccan Hunting Survey Clips

If you are a member of The Adlandpro community or Adlanders in Facebook, please help drum the filthy scum out of your communities.

[2:26:45 PM] Arthur Webster: Fortune 2x2 is a matrix designed for people with lists who can trickle their lists into a 2x10 matrix. Anybody with a list will be able to, for example, fill the matrix to the tenth level over a couple of weeks to maximise their "earnings" if they have 1,024 in their list. Naturally, they will be able to boast how much they are earning but the poor sods who follow them in to this matrix don't have a hope in hell of creating a full matrix of 1,024 people.

As far as I can see, we have entered into a realm of template scams. How many times have you seen this type of operation and, more importantly, how many times have you seen the same people promoting them? It is my sincere belief that there is a small group of list owners who have got together to exploit them. The internet marketing crowd have destroyed internet marketing. They have flooded the search results with thousands of cookie cutter 'review' sites. They have created thousands of versions of the same product in order to create what they laughingly call 'their own product'. Email marketing has been taught to every wannabe marketer together with the results of email address scraping from any vulnerable web site. Copy and paste operations have been sold to numbnuts so that they spew thousands of identical emails to the same thousands of people who have already received them thousands of times.

I recently closed most of my email accounts because I realised that there was only one marketer that I could trust (Kevin Riley). I have been stunned by the number of Google loopholes and traffic secrets that have been disclosed (sold) by countless people I have never heard of. Fortune 2x2 is simply one of the latest symptoms of a galloping sickness that has infested the internet. Like all such pyramid schemes, it is doomed (designed) to fail - just in time for the next latest and greatest scam.

Originally Posted by oldcoot

[2:26:45 PM] Arthur Webster: Fortune 2x2 is a matrix designed for people with lists who can trickle their lists into a 2x10 matrix. Like all such pyramid schemes, it is doomed (designed) to fail - just in time for the next latest and greatest scam.

Thank you for explaing that Arthur. There people here who will find it very interesting. Please will you introduce yourself to members of the forum in this thread. Please Introduce Yourself Here

There are people here who may not know that you were one the biggest "naysayers" in Adlandpro and an absolute thorn in the flesh to Bogdan Fiedur and people like Jill Bachman. You are far better informed as to "who is screwing whom" in that joke of a business and marketing community, than I can ever be.

You may be very interested to know that Lynne Eddington from Eagle Research was instrumental in helping US secret service catch one of Adlandpro members Pedro Dispensia. Eagle Research Associates, Inc. Adlandpro management have tried to delete all the evidence of this man's membersip and posts to the community from their forums but the top researchers have all the evidence they need to confirm the fact that he was.

Originally Posted by oldcoot

[2:26:45 PM] Fortune 2x2 is simply one of the latest symptoms of a galloping sickness that has infested the internet. Like all such pyramid schemes, it is doomed (designed) to fail - just in time for the next latest and greatest scam.

The next big matrix is join4adollar and it is already being pimped on most of the the scam/ponzi promoting forums.

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Originally Posted by path2prosperity

I was absolutely horrified to see that some members of Adlandpro have this nauseating "Christian Pastor" listed as a friend.

As gently as I can, Judy, can I point out that you appear to have grasped the wrong end of the stick WRT Landover Baptist Church.

The fact that Landover has fooled you into thinking it is "real" is a tribute to the contributors behind the site.

"Landover Baptist" is a completely made up satirical site designed to parody the type of fundamentalist thinking which seems to be increasingly associated with the political right wing, particularly what appears, at least from the outside, to be a nexus between the "teabagger" and fundamentalist religious movements in the USA.

It's pure ridicule by satire and parody.

Originally Posted by littleroundman

As gently as I can, Judy, can I point out that you appear to have grasped the wrong end of the stick WRT Landover Baptist Church.

The fact that Landover has fooled you into thinking it is "real" is a tribute to the contributors behind the site.

"Landover Baptist" is a completely made up satirical site designed to parody the type of fundamentalist thinking which seems to be increasingly associated with the political right wing, particularly what appears, at least from the outside, to be a nexus between the "teabagger" and fundamentalist religious movements in the USA.

It's pure ridicule by satire and parody.

I am very relieved to hear this LRM. There is a lot of truth in the saying that ninety percent of Brirish humour gets lost when it crosses the Atlantic. I have found that it works the other way as well. I am sure that most Cynical Ancient Brits like me, will find this "humour" very unfunny and they will label it, as being in extremely bad taste.

However this "humour" is based on attitudes that are deeply ingrained in many political and religious extremeists, who are few and far between in most of the cyberspace communities, that I have ever inhabited. All serious contributors and those who opposed these extreme attitudes on Adland like "old coot" left their community in droves. The majority of remaining Adlanders are, as both Arthur and I have stated, mere sychophants. Those who promote the cons and pimp the ponzi matrices at Adland are revered and treated as believable sources of information. None oppose the ponzi promoters over there.

Scamlandpro has nominated a character, who was a close associate of Jake Amadee and Todd Heapes, for their POTW (Scammer of The Week Award) and it looks as if she will win The nominee Kathy Hamilton has a radio blog on which she features some juicy scams Kathy Hamilton | AdlandPro Community.

She is featuring LGN prosperity, the same one you can see in JIll Bachman's signature files. Jill cals this "The Humanitaeian Bank. Everyone is invited To My Radio Show | View Forum | AdlandPro Community

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The power and reach of AdlandPro is often underestimated these days. When it started way back, it was one of the largest and best known social/business communities. It offered help with web design, SEO and a multitude of other useful information for people starting out on the internet. These were the days before Facebook was joined by the "parent generation".

It was also very easy to find as it enjoyed excellent search engine positions and offered free advertising. You didnt have to be an "internet marketing pro" to join in and it was often the first port of call for the "newbies" and to a certain extent, still is.

As a supposed "business" community, many online "opportunities have been promoted there. This would be fine, but its unusual structure has meant that constructive criticism of the "opportunties" advertised there has never been possible.

The reason for this is simple. It is an unmoderated community and members can start and "own" their own threads and become the sole moderator (apart from the ownership who generally maintain a "hands-off" policy with regarfd to "business" content) As a result, many of the promoters of ponzis, dubious MLMs, dodgy matrices have found good ol' Adland to be an excellent promoting ground, as they can recruit a few leader "believer" to promote the schemes who simply delete all negative comments. On the few ocasions when criticism of a certain program has become too loud, the owner invariably steps in to halt the protests on one pretext or other and until it dies away.

It has a cozy "community" family feel, with threads on health, the arts, photography and family create an environment where people form friendships based on amiablility and a type of family loyalty. It is ideal recruiting ground for anyone looking for believers and unsuspecting victims who are looking for a way to earn a bit of money from their homes because of unemployment or disability or inadequate retirement. pensions. I mean, how could it be a scam when you were introduced to it by your friend who you have share photos of your family with for over a year?

I dont think there is a major scam promoted on the internet that hasnt found its way there in the past 5 years or more. 12DailyPro, CEP, ASD, AVGA and many other autosurfs recruited successfully there. Every dodgy and undodgy MLM related to food, health and anything else you can think of has been promoted from its pages.

Its structure means that no meaningful criticism of programmes will ever stay online for long and the ownership (canadian) clings to the protection over content that is enjoyed by forum owners and lets it stand. As a result its somewhat naive bulk membership of newbies can never find out that they are being taken for a ride and are being asked to join a scam and, because of the "friendship" element of the community would probably not believe you if you told them

Not a community to be underestimated.

Originally Posted by alasycia

The power and reach of AdlandPro is often underestimated these days. When it started way back, it was one of the largest and best known social/business communities. It offered help with web design, SEO and a multitude of other useful information for people starting out on the internet. These were the days before Facebook was joined by the "parent generation".

Thank you for a first class precis of Adland as it is today. My only addition to your text is a minor point on the history of Adland.

Adland community was the first social networking site and Bogdan was really respected. His best work was already behind him, when he launched that community. His biggest achievement was the search engine which he designed in the late 1990s. I was absolutely wowed by his accomplishments in the late 1990s. Adland was the first dedicated search engine for biz opps. It enablled complete beginners like me to run advertisments which actually paid and I was able to submit them to the rngine using his submission tool. He claimed it had almost as much power as Google. Perhaps somebody with an interest in Internet History could make a bomb writing a book about "The Rise and Fall of Bogdan Fiedur." Bogdan has earned his place in Internet history. Nothing can take that away from him. He deserved an admiring following in those days

I hate to see high achievers fall. Survival in any business is a bit like a game of snakes and ladders I was a high achiever once so I can sympathise with him, in that respect. I did not fall from the heights he had. I am still extremely grateful for learning what I did, from his publications and his first social networking community. If he had got his Polish version of the site off the ground he may have stayed in the top league a little bit longer.

I find it tragic when the mighty fall. Perhaps he burned himself out. I hope that Bogdon is not deep in the shadow banking and and pozi promoting industry but all the evidence seems to be pointing in that direction. Who knows? Ex members of his community would be very welcome to add their comments.

Adlanders who are new to the scam busting scene may not know where to start.

A very good starting point is to find out what Carl Haavaldson is up to. He makes videos for somebody who is known as "manolo" on TalkGold and "strogdesgoz" on MoneyMaker Group to be used in social networks. The latest great opportinity introduced to Adland members by Carl is Fortune2x2.

Fortune2x2 is associated with others that may have been on Adland including Club Asteria, Zubie.net, CashTwist etc

Never touch anything if Carl Haavaldson is behind it. That man has been behind many matrix scams on Adland. He must have pocketed a lot from all his Adland victims.

Well, I could see that Adland was deteriorating when I left almost four years ago. Actually, I didn't leave because of that, life just opened a new path, and I simply had no time. Yet, it saddens me to hear about what is going on.

The Mountain of Love: It started as a very interesting thread, for those that were interested in something different, and I did follow it for a while until, even back then, I could see that there was an agenda. I am so sorry to hear that people are actually buying into this, and that they don't see the truth. And as I write this, my heart sinks because I have at least one very dear friend who has been suckered in and believes the whole deal hook, line, and sinker. I just really hope that she is not investing any money in this scam, and yes, it is a scam.

As I read this thread I see that Adland has really regressed to a garbage dump. The promise of working from home and making money on the internet is nil. Most of these MLM opportunities are nothing but scams. The rich get richer........... Off the people.

We all went through the phase where we jumped at every MLM opportunity that came along. That phase was shortlived for me and I no longer will consider any type of MLM.

Hello Luella and welcome.

Your comments about the deterioration of AdlandPro are well made, but I suspect that it has always been a good harvesting ground for scammers, due to the enormous number of "newbies" to the internet world who make up its membership.

I bet if we knew all the psuedomyns, we would find that almost all the online scammers have been members of AdlandPro at some time or other. It's cosy social/family style is ideal recruiting ground where people are brought into scams by "friends" and "friends" of "friends" - and "friends" aren't scammers are they? lol

Your comment about the New Age forum, Mountain of Love is certainly on the mark. Initially it was a discussion thread for ideas that were a little "different", but basically philosophical in nature. It has now become a fully fledged conspiracy theory site, and the Adland owner seems to have taken it to the next level with his own New Age site. This now has financial and political ramifications and it is very sad to see people sucked into something that has become an extremist group, and sucked in, of course by their "friends"

I am not going to beat about the bush. Jill Bachman did not play MLM's for small change like Luella and "honestme" did when it was a craze. She started encouraging people to invest in scams that she claimed were real business. Jill Bachman is AN UNREPENTANT Andy Bodoin pimp. She has not come out into the open and or shown any sign of remorse.

Bachman continued to promote dubious forex schemes and look at her signature files now. Click the link that says "Humanitarian Bank" and you will see it leads to LGN Prosperity. She is still offering Adlanders miracle cures for everything, some magic wand. Bachman is, in my opinion, a danger to unsuspecting members of society. The hugs kisses and "beloved" which she spouts are poison.

This is a really sad thread and I am so disappointed that a man for whom I had great respect and who has been extremely helpful to me seems to have abandoned his skill set and joined the sludge sucking crowd at interspam networks and been a factor in the demise of what should have been a fantastic social site.
It is disgusting that Jill Bachman is using the Humanitarian Bank as part of her con trick. The Humanitarian Bank is a genuine entity that allows people to donate money in order to provide African charities and social organisations with a ready source of funds for specific projects.
There is also HHC Humanitarian Bank which provides the same service in Israel although it also accepts 'deposits' of material goods to be used by poorer communities.
I have tried to contact the Humanitarian Bank in Lagos to warn them of the damaging effect Jill Bachman's abuse of their name might cause but I have, so far, been unable to contact any of the bank officials. I have left messages with several volunteers and other organisations for them to get in touch with me. I believe that 'The Humanitarian Bank' is an internationally registered trade mark so that should provide some protection as well as recourse to the law.

It should be easy to trace who this person is, here is info on the website landoverbaptist.org:

Registrant Name:Bluehost Inc
Registrant Organization:Bluehost.com
Registrant Street1:1958 South 950 East
Registrant Street2:
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:Provo
Registrant State/Province:Utah
Registrant Postal Code:84606
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+1.8017659400
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:+1.8017651992
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant Email:whois@bluehost.com
Admin ID:FAST-12785242
Admin Name:Bluehost Inc
Admin Organization:Bluehost.com
Admin Street1:1958 South 950 East
Admin Street2:
Admin Street3:
Admin City:Provo
Admin State/Province:Utah
Admin Postal Code:84606
Admin Country:US
Admin Phone:+1.8017659400

Now do a search on bluehost.com

Originally Posted by path2prosperity

I was absolutely horrified to see that some members of Adlandpro have this nauseating "Christian Pastor" listed as a friend. This despicable porn merchant and hell fire raiser whom RealScam has debunked, is very probably a member of Adlandpro Community (possibly with a different user name) as I found several members of Adlanders in Facebook who have him as a friend. YouTube - Wiccan Hunting Survey Clips

If you are a member of The Adlandpro community or Adlanders in Facebook, please help drum the filthy scum out of your communities.

This is from Wikipedia:

Chris Harper
Born Christian Harper
February 2, 1967 (1967-02-02) (age 44)
Bethlehem, PA, U.S.
Occupation Actor/Satirist
Years active 2008–present

Chris Harper (born February 2, 1967) is an American satirist and actor who created the Landover Baptist Church. He regularly speaks at atheist gatherings as Pastor Deacon Fred Smith.[1]

Chris Harper obtained his Master's Degree in English Literature from George Mason University in 1993 after being expelled from Liberty University in

He is your Pastor Deacon Fred (Chris Harper). If he is in Adland, he is using a fake name.