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    Re: Adlandpro. Jill Bachman and Her Andy Bowdoin Connections.

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    Re: Adlandpro. Jill Bachman and Her Andy Bowdoin Connections.

    Oath Keepers Update or history.


    Thursday, January 24, 2008
    Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!


    In MSNBC Florida debates, when Romney is asked a question about Ronald Reagan - "will you do for social security what Ronald Reagan did in 1983"- you can hear a voice whisper "raised taxes" and then Romney says "I'm not going to raise taxes, what I'm going to do ..."


    One of the videos has disappeared from YouTube.

    This is taken from an article on a blog about E. Steward Rhodes, Founder of Oath Keepers.

    Dirt Rhodes Scholar
    Blog of E. Stewart Rhodes, ex-paratrooper, disabled vet, ex-firearms instructor, former Ron Paul staff member, Yale Law grad/Research Scholar, & Montana/Nevada lawyer. Stewart has written for Gerry Spence's The Warrior, for moreliberty.org, writes the Enemy at the Gate column for S.W.A.T. Magazine, and is writing a book on the dangers of applying the laws of war to the American people in the "war on terror." Stewart is NOT a liberal, unless you want to consider him a classical liberal.
    Somehow I believe this person is under the watchful eye of FBI and Homeland Security, if not, he should be...
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    Re: Adlandpro. Jill Bachman and Her Andy Bowdoin Connections.

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    Oath Keepers Update or history.


    Thursday, January 24, 2008
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    One of the videos has disappeared from YouTube.

    This is taken from an article on a blog about E. Steward Rhodes, Founder of Oath Keepers.



    Somehow I believe this person is under the watchful eye of FBI and Homeland Security, if not, he should be...
    Curious as to what brings you to that conclusion? His and Oath Keepers stance on protecting the people from a government if it spins out of control? The fact that he's a lawyer? I have no doubt that the FBI is watching him, but should they be watching him or any other law abiding citizen? What about you?
    It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!

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    Re: Adlandpro. Jill Bachman and Her Andy Bowdoin Connections.

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    Curious as to what brings you to that conclusion? His and Oath Keepers stance on protecting the people from a government if it spins out of control? The fact that he's a lawyer? I have no doubt that the FBI is watching him, but should they be watching him or any other law abiding citizen? What about you?
    So you are saying that you think the Oath Keepers group is a bunch of law abiding citizens?? I don't know, I read some of the rules and oaths, sounded much like an vigilante group. Perhaps you know more than I do about it Laidback.

    I have just recently come across it over in Scamland. What about me?? They would be wasting their time and our money but if so, it is okay.

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    Re: Adlandpro. Jill Bachman and Her Andy Bowdoin Connections.

    I also realize we are not supposed to do politics here but this video was in the blog and I found it interesting. I am not supporting any of those debating at present. This is about Oath Keepers and Rhodes.

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    Re: Adlandpro. Jill Bachman and Her Andy Bowdoin Connections.

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    So you are saying that you think the Oath Keepers group is a bunch of law abiding citizens?? I don't know, I read some of the rules and oaths, sounded much like an vigilante group. Perhaps you know more than I do about it Laidback.

    I have just recently come across it over in Scamland. What about me?? They would be wasting their time and our money but if so, it is okay.
    Far be it from me to agree with many of the nut cases at Adland, I don't bother to go there anymore. I believe the Oath Keepers was conceived along the lines of (Not sure on this) the Accord of Cincinnatus, where the military officers vow that the oath taken ( to protect and defend the constitution against ALL enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC) means exactly that, and they will not allow the government to sidestep the provisions of the constitution to maintain control of the citizenry. This is in case a government tries to avoid the provisions of Posse Comitatus, a law that says the military can't be used as a civilian police force. (There are certain exclusions for Coast Guard and National Guard actions). This discussion, while interesting should likely have its own thread.
    It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!

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    Re: Adlandpro. Jill Bachman and Her Andy Bowdoin Connections.

    This discussion, while interesting should likely have its own thread.
    I agree, I did get a bit off topic with this. We can move it if Admin. thinks it needs to be. I apologize P2P since you started this thread about Scamland, Jill and Andy.

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    Oath Keepers and Stewart Rhodes Subject

    My knowledge of Oath Keepers is very recent but it has been around since Bush second was President. Now this is not about politics just some information I found interesting.

    The Daily Bell - Oath-Keeper Stewart Rhodes on the Rise of Authoritarianism and How US Law Enforcement Can Take a Stand for Freedom

    Stewart Rhodes: My 2004 paper (available at: Oath Keepers Blog Archive Solving the Puzzle of “Enemy Combatant” Status – Stewart Rhodes) addressed the dangerous and unconstitutional Bush Administration claims that the President, as Commander-in-Chief, can have anyone, even American citizens, black bagged and held in military detention and then, if he so chooses, tried by a military tribunal (made up of his hand-picked officers) and executed. Such a practice is a direct violation not just of the right to Grand Jury indictment and jury trial under our Bill of Rights, but also violates the Article III Treason Clause, which very clearly mandates what must be done with Americans accused of making war against their own nation or of aiding the enemy in wartime they must be tried for treason, in an Article III court, before a jury of their peers, and there must be two witnesses to the overt act or confession in open court before the accused can be convicted and executed. The Bush Administration claimed that the powers of the President as Commander-in-Chief trumped the Bill of Rights, and his lawyers willfully sidestepped the Treason Clause.
    I made some comments relating to this in P2P's thread about Scamland and felt it needed a thread separate.

    http://www.realscam.com/f16/adlandpr...78/index6.html

    From reading the above statement, this group must be a good thing.

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    Re: Oath Keepers and Stewart Rhodes Subject

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    E. Stewart Rhodes, Oath Keepers - on Beyond the Ordinary Dot Net

    Stewart is the founder and Director of Oath Keepers. He served as a U.S. Army paratrooper until disabled in a rough terrain parachuting accident during a night jump. He is a former firearms instructor and former member of Rep. Ron Paul's DC staff. Stewart graduated from Yale Law School in 2004, where his paper "Solving the Puzzle of Enemy Combatant Status" won Yale’s Miller prize for best paper on the Bill of Rights. He assisted teaching U.S. military history at Yale, was a Yale Research Scholar, and is writing a book on the dangers of applying the laws of war to the American people. He is a staff attorney with Jefferson Legal Foundation and has assisted in constitutional litigation in state and federal courts. Stewart currently writes the monthly Enemy at the Gates column for S.W.A.T. Magazine, and has written for The Warrior, the journal of Gerry Spence’s Trial Lawyer’s College; for www.moreliberty.org; and for JPFO. Stewart has appeared on several radio shows, was invited to speak at Stanford University on unlawful enemy combatant status, and teaches classes on the Constitution and Bill of Rights. He welcomes e-mail at stewart.Rhodes@aya.yale.edu.
    Blogger: User Profile: Stewart Rhodes

    There was some controversy back in 2007 but the site has been moved.
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