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    December 13, 2012

    In the news this morning: The commission looking into corruption in Quebec has caused a “can of worms” to be opened with regard to corruption in provinces across Canada.
    This lends credibility to the email I received purportedly from the cousin of Alan Kippax in which he accuses several politicians all the way to the P.M. of Canada, Steven Harper.

    EXCERPT from email:

    Mr. Dave Thornton

    I received the Email from Mr. Bannister to get in contact with you. I found Mr. Bannister on a blog just recently as I did a google search on Alan, this is also how I found out he was sentenced to jail last week, thank the Lord. I pray for that family who's lives he changed forever. I met you a while back, when you first started going after Alan, back when he was running treasure traders International/earnfirm. I am one of Alan Kippax's Cousins, from Toronto. I no longer live there, I have moved out of Canada oversea's where I can try to start a new life and get away from the shadow that was hanging over me known as Alan.
    I was with Alan for alot of his shady business deals. I have seen him pay off many people, such as the likes of Jean Chretien, and Paul Martin back when they were in power of Canada, and more recently Stephen Harper. He has also paid off Ralph Klien back when he was Premier of Alberta, and more recently Ed Stelmach, and the commissioner of the RCMP. The list goes on…


    RCMP and other government authorities refuse to investigate this email notwithstanding years of protecting Alan Kippax, his father Frank (a former UK and Canadian police officer) and their scams and notwithstanding finally being forced to arrest 13 of his top predators; one a school teacher; one a banker.

    Here are other puzzling allegations of corruption just last year under Alberta Premier Ed Stelmach.

    EXCERPT: Alberta Premier Ed Stelmach has spoken: there will be no judicial inquiry into accusations of intimidation, hush money and hanky-panky in health care.
    His intemperate and weirdly timed response late Sunday only lends credibility to the accusations leveled Friday by Independent Edmonton-Meadowlark MLA Raj Sherman and all four opposition leaders at a history-making news conference.

    Ed Stelmach's weird Sunday statement rejecting judicial inquiry lends credibility to Alberta health allegations | rabble.ca

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    It is a shame that not more was done here in the USA to help these farmers recover some of the lost funds. Since this happened in 2007-2008 what have the US authorities done to pursue recovery of monies for these victims and also charge Galbraith and his associates with the crimes they have committed against citizens of the USA? I don't recall hearing about it back then on the news but that was also during the time when our presidential election was heated up. What can be done at this point? Is there any agency in the US still following up on the money trail and gathering information to bring justice? Here is a comment from the article link you posted above:

    The real story about Pigeon King International dive and more…

    As soon as CBN heard about PKI, on August 2007, Dave Thornton, the CrimeBustersNow.org President (CBN), contacted Arlan Galbraith directly and asked him to immediately stop his fraud and report himself to proper authorities.

    If not doing so, Dave clearly let him know that CBN would use all proper tools to shut him down, according to CBN mission, like we have done with other frauds, TTI UK, TTI Canada, The Sum-it Club and now PKI.

    CBN has been very honest with Arlan and gave him his chance to stop his Ponzi scheme, hurting a minimum of farmers at that time.

    Instead of taking the farmers’ side, Arlan decided to try to discredit CBN volunteers by all means, and continue to screw more and more farmers, pocketing more and more money doing so.

    CBN team is happy to have got PKI feathers up before our target date of July 1st, 2008, as previously stated on the Discover Vancouver forum, even if we could not guarantee a date for sure.

    We are very sorry for all the farmers involved and their losses, but it’s better that 1,000 farmers have trouble than 10 of thousands more.

    Thank you to Farm and Dairy, Better Farming and Lancaster Farming Magazines, the Iowa, South Dakota, Washington and Maryland Attorneys General, the lawyer Michael J. Webster, and all volunteers and people that helped bursting the worst Ponzi scheme to have ever been created in the North American farming business.

    Like previously stated, CBN is ready to help farmers that want to be helped.

    We can bring a horse to the river but… we cannot drink for him.

    You have our email address, phone number and physical address to contact us, on the Business section of the Discover Vancouver forum.

    Here, in Quebec, RCMP officers have just arrested Vincent Lacroix, president of Norbourg, for a fraud around $100,000,000.

    Lacroix and his accomplices will have to face the Justice under the Criminal Code of Canada, in the months to come.

    Lacroix has already been convicted under the Civil Code and is in jail for 12 years.

    Individuals such as Steveee and some other ones, around Arlan Galbraith, PKI President, have designed and promoted a fraud already around $1,000,000,000.

    If accused and convicted under the Criminal Code of Canada, how long will they get?

    Maybe USA will also step in since around half of the PKI victims are located in USA. Americans do not fool around with Ponzi frauds. You can get 25 years easily.

    All people that benefited from the Arlan’s Ponzi fraud could also be forced by the bankruptcy Trustee to give him the proceeds back so the money would be given back to the victims on a pro-rata basis, which would be fair and just.

    Arlan cannot plead he was not aware it was a Ponzi scheme since Dave contacted him directly by phone and email on August 20, 2007, to ask him to cease and desist and report himself to proper authorities, before hurting more and more victims.

    We always warned potential victims that PKI was in technical bankruptcy, with around $1,000,000,000 hidden liabilities in its books.

    CBN volunteers and their friends are proud to have stopped that incredible Ponzi scheme after nearly 10 months of fighting it.

    Remember that CBN volunteers team has business people and a real former American police officer running it, plus friends such as Retired Banker and other honest people helping them.

    Only crooks that helped Arlan Galbraith to run and spread his Ponzi scheme are still trying to fight CBN, when Arlan disappeared, hiding in Northern Ontario, according to the reports we get, before flying to a remote location such as Costa-Rica, and spending YOUR money for the rest of his life.

    We understand very well that many farmers are still in denial in front of the last events but I really think it’s a lot better that 1,000 farmers are affected than 10,000 or more.

    If I was you, I would not fool around too long and I would make sure to contact the Bankruptcy Trustee and make sure he recognizes the whole thing for what it is, a huge Ponzi scheme, and takes all legal actions and means to recover your hard-earned money.

    Take also note that Arlan was still collecting $750,000 on Friday, June 13, from 15 new Ontario victims, and another $150,000 from an old New-York farmer and his wife, on Monday, June 16, the very day before closing PKI doors.

    Don’t forget you could also sue your own bank and/or accountant, or any other professionals, if they gave you a positive opinion about Arlan’s and PKI activities.

    Don’t let Arlan and his friends play the victims’ role and fly with your millions.

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    PKI in the U.S. was in violation of business practice law, fraudulent misrepresentation, and mail fraud. Mail fraud alone can be 20 years. Galbraith is not charged in the U.S. where it is believed most of the losses were incurred, which makes sense since Canadian Farmers who were in at the beginning saw huge returns that came from many U.S. farmers who joined last.

    This is a major cover-up by Canadian authorities and Canadian media who are aware of the story. It is interesting he is not charged under section 206 (1)(e) of the Criminal Code relating to schemes that use later participants to pay earlier participants. And the mainstream media refuses to tell the public real story of how this scam was "taken down" and extremes police and government authorities engaged in to silence the whistle-blower until we were successful in bringing down this fraud and authorities were left with little choice but to lay charges in what was shown to them to be a provable fraud.

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    And aside from all that, ironically in Canada Galbraith is being "selectively prosecuted" for his scheme when authorities instead of prosecuting the "high level" fraud artists including, among them, politicians, lawyers, accountants, RCMP and police on down, school board officials, top personnel of the CRA (income Tax Department) etc, the perpetrators of the Women Empowering Women and NASCAR pyramid frauds, engaged in a cover-up which I brought to the attention of authorities years before Galbraith's scheme.

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    Better Farming Magazine – (Three awards; one international for their original story December 2007)

    Court November 2012 - Better Farming EXCERPT:

    The birds that he had been selling were being used to breed a larger bird that could eventually be used for processing, Galbraith says. He claims there was a smear campaign launched by disgruntled employees as well as David Thornton, president of Crime Busters Now, a non-profit organization, and Better Farming magazine. He says the campaign destroyed the business and the livelihoods of all of the investors.

    “All these fear mongers scared the crap out of everybody,” he says. “They ruined it.”

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    November 20, 2012 -

    Pigeon King goes to trial


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    Kitchener judge rules there is enough evidence to proceed against the former bird breeder




    by BETTER FARMING STAFF

    Arlan Francis Galbraith has been committed to trial to face charges related to his now-defunct Waterloo-based pigeon breeding business.

    Judge Elliott Allen delivered his verbal decision on Monday in the Ontario Court of Justice in Kitchener as soon as a preliminary hearing against Galbraith wrapped up.

    The 65-year-old Galbraith, who is representing himself, faces a charge of fraud over $5,000 and four offenses under the Bankruptcy Act. The charges have not been proven in court.

    Four witnesses were called during the inquiry, which was held to determine if there is enough evidence to warrant a trial. The media is banned from publishing the evidence that was presented.

    Galbraith, formerly of Waterloo and now of Cochrane, is required to appear in the Ontario Superior Court of Justice in Kitchener on Nov. 30 to set a date for a judicial pre-trial conference.

    Galbraith founded and owned Pigeon King International Inc., a company that sold high-priced pigeon pairs to growers in Canada and the United States and bought back the offspring on long-term contracts.

    The Waterloo Regional Police Service fraud squad and the RCMP launched a joint investigation after Galbraith declared the business bankrupt in 2008 and laid the charges in December, 2010. BF

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    Notice that W.R.P.S and RCMP launched a joint investigation AFTER Galbraith declared the business bankrupt in 2008, not when I first laid out the scam in detail to police, government and the local media in 2007.

    At that point in time I was harassed by police, government and incredibly even the local media; physically assaulted by police, falsely arrested and imprisoned for observation in the mental wing of the Cambridge Memorial Hospital; the true story covered by authorities and suppressed by the media right up to the present. Other than Better Farming Magazine none of the media even mention my name or CrimeBustersNow, let alone the fact I brought this Ponzi scheme to their attention in 2007.

    Is there anyone willing to contact C.K.C.O. TV and The Record in Kitchener, and the W.R.P.S. and ask them a few uncomfortable and direct questions?

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    Is there anyone willing to contact C.K.C.O. TV and The Record in Kitchener, and the W.R.P.S. and ask them a few uncomfortable and direct questions?

    Any takers, I am not good at telephone calls??!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by scratchycat View Post
    Is there anyone willing to contact C.K.C.O. TV and The Record in Kitchener, and the W.R.P.S. and ask them a few uncomfortable and direct questions?

    Any takers, I am not good at telephone calls??!!
    Phone call or email is good.

    Several years ago, before the PKI Ponzi scheme, in the WEW scam, a woman called CKCO TV inquiring about the physical materials including a copy of a 911 recording I had left the news director. CKCO TV denied they had received the materials telling the woman I was mentally ill.

    This is a municipality where those in power cling together withholding the truth that might tarnish the false image they have been able project to the world. In 1973 this M.O. was revealed in a massive act of skullduggery and cover-up involving the K-W Record Newspaper, CKCO TV, the radio stations and politicians. The K-W Record, it was revealed, did not let their own reporters in on the “secret” unless an individual stumbled on it, then they were shown the whole detail plan and sworn to secrecy to tell no-one, not even fellow reporters!!!

    That scandal was first revealed in a scoop by the university student paper, The Chevron. As a result, the Toronto Globe&Mail investigated publishing an unbelievable two day in depth exposé about the reprehensible cover-up quoting the contrite C.B. Schmidt of the K-W Record, admitting to withholding public responses while concocting his own “Letters to the Editor” in order to fraudulently counter the overwhelming, negative public opinion.

    Sandy Baird of the K-W Record was quoted as saying "Every time we 'play ball' we get the bat up our a$$." - Play ball = suppress the news.

    The student newspaper that revealed the truth was thrown off the university campus and months later their new location was mysteriously burned down. Quite the community, Kitchener – (old Berlin).

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    Wow, I just stumbled upon and read this entire thread and I am shocked in disbelief. To Dave you have my moral support and hope that you could muster up support of some Canadian news team or investigative reporter. I cannot believe there can be that much corruption in Canada. Good luck to you - how did you finally make out in court? And to ks chang... great article! It got me so interested I spent an hour to read this thread!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankly My Dear... View Post
    Wow, I just stumbled upon and read this entire thread and I am shocked in disbelief. To Dave you have my moral support and hope that you could muster up support of some Canadian news team or investigative reporter. I cannot believe there can be that much corruption in Canada. Good luck to you - how did you finally make out in court? And to ks chang... great article! It got me so interested I spent an hour to read this thread!
    Hello Frankly MD! There is corruption everywhere but it was good that one was stopped but several farmers got taken on it. Yes, Kasey makes for interesting reading and very informative. My last contact with Dave was in Facebook and he has been having a rough time of it. A couple of accidents and long recovery.
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    Arlan Galbraith (The Pigeon King) goes on trial November 06 2013. He has elected trial by jury and is self represented.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimeBustersNow View Post
    Arlan Galbraith (The Pigeon King) goes on trial November 06 2013. He has elected trial by jury and is self represented.

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    Let's hope he stumbles on his own "pigeons" and goes to jail for his crimes.
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    According to the latest court info, this trial could last another 2-4 weeks. Since Arlen is acting as his own attorney, it no doubt has added to the length of the trial. Some of the exchanges between Arlen and his victims as reported were comedy at its finest. It will be interesting to see how this all turns out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EagleOne View Post
    According to the latest court info, this trial could last another 2-4 weeks. Since Arlen is acting as his own attorney, it no doubt has added to the length of the trial. Some of the exchanges between Arlen and his victims as reported were comedy at its finest. It will be interesting to see how this all turns out.
    Yes, it will Eagle. I have sorta lost touch with Dave lately but I feel sure he is watching this real close.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kschang View Post
    I wrote a short profile on it and need some proofreading:

    A MLM Skeptic: Scam Study: Pigeon King
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    I have checked some different sources. Galbraith started his pigeon sale project in 2001, "according to some sources". We can use that year to identify the time frame between 2001 - the bankruptcy in June 2008 - the trial in November / December 2013. I will add some info from June 2006 / December 2007.

    1. Some forensic accountant info from the trial:
    Pigeon King would have owed $3 billion eventually, accountant testifies | CTV Kitchener News

    You can basically ignore his $350 million / $3 billion calculations, they are hypothetical numbers used to prove that the scheme was unsustainable (what the investors COULD have earned if the contracts HAD BEEN completed, and the amount of new contracts needed to be able to pay the current investors).

    The forensic accountant reported
    894 contracts, sold for $42 million (the number of contracts were found in the video)
    394 farmers had received $30 million in payment
    Investments made after January 2007 would all have lost money
    At the time of bankruptcy, monthly payouts to farmers were $2.6 million per month, growing $100,000 per month

    * Bankruptcy trustee BDO Dunwoody found Pigeon King's liabilities to be $23.5 million
    (diabled link) todaysfarmer.ca/2008/08/06/farmers-lament-pigeon-king-losses

    2. Interview with a farmer in 2007, "Farm and dairy"
    You're raising what? Pigeons! - Farm and Dairy

    He reveals a lot of details about the investment (June 2006) and the profitability:
    100 breeding pairs plus building investments = around $30,000 (estimated by the farmer)
    + he reinvested in 100 additional breeding pairs in December 2007 (info found in another article)
    work per day = around 2 hours
    Resale price (for the offsprings) = $25 per bird
    Gross income per month = $2,500 average (100 pigeons per month, 20 weeks old)
    Net income per year = $18,000 - $20,000

    Other people have estimated 90-100% ROI per year (from the offsprings). He has probably paid $200 - $250 per breeding pair = both the prices for the breeding pairs and for the offsprings has been reduced.

    * A friend of that farmer had a $18 per bird contract (a newer contract than his own)
    * Arlan Galbraith's only witness had a $10 per bird contract. That witness managed to sell 1,200 pigeons for $2 per bird after the bankruptcy (to show you the market value of the birds in a "problem market").

    You have only got link to 2 sources here, but the info is from 6-8 different sources. Missing sources are about some "additional info", e.g. about the farmer's reinvestment. I have mostly been focusing on the financial side of the story here.

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    You did some good research on this M Norway, thanks for sharing it here in RS.

    December 5, 2013:

    Better Farming reported it took nearly 2 days for the jury to reach a guilty verdict. Arland Galbraith is serving time in jail...
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