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    does any one know any thing about gms any law suits or any other info.

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    Hiya, been had,

    which "GMS" would you like us to look into ???
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    gms formaly mrs.vip, v-lane

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    I am with you. I was in GMS also and have discovered there is a ponzi researcher that goes by the screen name Eagle one. Soon I am preparing to send copies of all my contracts, non compete and bank routing and account numbers for GMS bank accounts. You can send him your info as well.

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    gms formaly mrs.vip, v-lane

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    FYI,

    EagleOne is a SuperModerator here on REALSCAM.com

    You can find his profile and send him a Private Message here: EagleOne
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    i want to ask any one that is or was a gms,mrs vip.member to contact the FBI we can beat them if we can group together.please call the more people that call the faster they will move on this. thank you ! been had. FBI office boston # 1-617-561-2700

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    Quote Originally Posted by been had View Post
    i want to ask any one that is or was a gms,mrs vip.member to contact the FBI we can beat them if we can group together.please call the more people that call the faster they will move on this. thank you ! been had. FBI office boston # 1-617-561-2700
    The GMS scammers have been above the radar for so long that the law will soon catch up with them. I made a great effort to warn people not to join and sign their ridiculous NDU but people who did sign it got a bit nervous about spilling the beans. They hired some cruise ship with Jake The Snake and showed documents that were supposed to prove they had made millions in real estate. GMS was a classic example of people falling for "The Story of The Emperor's New Clothes"

    One of their mods was British so anybody who knows the woman could inform Customs and Exise. If Vee and Mara ever invested on the Isle of Mann, as I believe they did, Customs would be interested. It looks as if Andy Bowdoin and OneX have some sort of financial interst on the Isle of Mann. I suggest you pass on information about British members who were modding for GMS pathway2prosperity or Bowdoin to Customs and Excise or Crime Stoppers on the Isle of Mann. There is a British Crimestoppers but Manx law is different so there is a special division to report criminals there.

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    does any one have any real info on mara or vee for real where they, are are they being investigated is any one sueing them. a simple yes or no.

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    does any one have any real info on mara or vee for real where they, are are they being investigated is any one sueing them. a simple yes or no.
    AFAIK, no one on the forum is part of any investigative agency, and would have any information as to any ongoing investigations.

    To date, there are no publicly announced civil actions.

    The most likely outcome is that, like 99.99% of HYIPs, the MrsVIP / VLane / GMS scammers will simplay disappear and the whole story will fade into history.
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    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post
    AFAIK, no one on the forum is part of any investigative agency, and would have any information as to any ongoing investigations.

    To date, there are no publicly announced civil actions.

    The most likely outcome is that, like 99.99% of HYIPs, the MrsVIP / VLane / GMS scammers will simplay disappear and the whole story will fade into history.
    Unless the predator who swallowed GMS is slaughtered and disected. Marvellous TV documentaries show monsters from the past and contents of the alimentary canal. "The Bank of Dr Mara's Knickers" will be inside some big fish.

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    does any one have any real info on mara or vee for real where they, are are they being investigated is any one sueing them. a simple yes or no.

    To answer your questions, here is what is known at this time:

    Dr. Mara was last reported to be in Germany. Her US address is in Florida and Vee is in West Virginia. Many people have reported them to the West Viriginia Attorney General, the Florida Attorney General and to Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3) | Home, which is the US Federal Agency who receives these complaints.

    Besides reporting them to their respective Attorneys General, we have also recommended people report them to their own state Attorney General. If you have not done so, I urge you to do so immediately.

    As it has already been pointed out, no agency will tell you if an investigation is ongoing or not. All you can do is report it. The more people reporting it, the better the chance of an investigation being conducted. HOWEVER, there is no guarantee that any state Attorneys General or ic3 will or is conducting an investigation. But if it is not reported it is absolutely certain no investigation will be conducted, so report it.

    If you want specific information about the addresses of Mara or Vee, please send me a PM. Not sure if this helped or not, but this is all I can say on a public forum in regard to this matter.
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    I am with you. I was in GMS also and have discovered there is a ponzi researcher that goes by the screen name Eagle one. Soon I am preparing to send copies of all my contracts, non compete and bank routing and account numbers for GMS bank accounts. You can send him your info as well.
    I look forward to receiving all of it when you get it completed. Send me a PM when you have it ready, and I'll give you the E-mail address to send it to me.

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    To answer your questions, here is what is known at this time:

    Dr. Mara was last reported to be in Germany. Her US address is in Florida and Vee is in West Virginia. Many people have reported them to the West Viriginia Attorney General, the Florida Attorney General and to Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3) | Home, which is the US Federal Agency who receives these complaints.

    Besides reporting them to their respective Attorneys General, we have also recommended people report them to their own state Attorney General. If you have not done so, I urge you to do so immediately.

    As it has already been pointed out, no agency will tell you if an investigation is ongoing or not. All you can do is report it. The more people reporting it, the better the chance of an investigation being conducted. HOWEVER, there is no guarantee that any state Attorneys General of ic3 will or is conducting an investigation. But if it is not reported it is absolutely certain no investigation will be conducted, so report it.

    If you want specific information about the addresses of Mara or Vee, please send me a PM. Not sure if this helped or not, but this is all I can say on a public forum in regard to this matter.


    Thank you Eagle One. This is what i wanted to know. I did report to this to the FBI in boston. i will also report this to AG in Florida.Would you know which dept i can contact. Thank You again ! Been Had

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    Thank you Eagle One. This is what i wanted to know. I did report to this to the FBI in boston. i will also report this to AG in Florida.Would you know which dept i can contact. Thank You again ! Been Had

    The easiest way is to go to eagleresearchassociates dot org. Then on the left hand side you will see the link File A Complaint. Click on it and it will take you to a page where you will see a drop down link bar. Scroll down to Florida and click it. It will take you to their online complaint form. You will also see the link for ic3 under the header NATIONAL.
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    thank you ! over the last several years you are the only one that has given any help !

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    thank you ! over the last several years you are the only one that has given any help !
    You are welcome, but that's what we do. Glad to be of help, and we appreciate your kind remarks. Thanks.
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    thank you ! over the last several years you are the only one that has given any help !
    You need time to be accepted at RS "beenhad." It is a bit like being in the dentist's chair! If they can find any infection you will loose your teeth!. If you pass muster and rectify past mistakes, you will have help growing more powerful "fangs."

    I listened to the VLane hype with incredulity and I read the cheerleeders "ASA rag" from cover to cover. There is one question that has eluded me from the day of it's launch till now. You can send information to me of Eagle privately or post an opinion here. I want to know more about Annie tranlady4000 or some similar number. Was she a poor deluded fool who thought Vee knew it all or was she up to her neck in quicksand?

    Annie deserted Vee and became an ASA moderator. (Suspicious!) I fought Annie in public on the ASA forum. She would swear that she told no lies on "God's Honour", "The Holy Bible" her lawyer etc. When I asked her if she would make an IRREVOCABLE UNDERTAKING to pay me a small sum, if she ever got caught out in a network of lies. Annie understood that legal point and she decided not to give me her irrevocable undertaking.

    I do not think that this scam will vanish into the mists of time. There were people playing autosurfs for fun in those days. If Annie was one of those, she needs to be eliminated from the suspect list. If she was a big fish in the VLane pond, she needs disecting and the contents of her "Cyberspace Stomach" or wallet needs to be examined very carefully.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EagleOne View Post

    The easiest way is to go to eagleresearchassociates dot org. Then on the left hand side you will see the link File A Complaint. Click on it and it will take you to a page where you will see a drop down link bar. Scroll down to Florida and click it. It will take you to their online complaint form. You will also see the link for ic3 under the header NATIONAL.
    PatrickPretty has reported the fact that Andy Bowdoin has been setting up companies somewhere in the Irish Sea. The island to which he alludes is The Isle of Mann which is just off North Wales. The Welsh language is very hard to learn but Irish Gaelic is a little easier. The Isle of Mann is a haven for scammers and confidence tricksters because of the shortage of people who speak the languages. If Andy Bowdoin is investing there, he has a bent lawyer and bent accountant in tow.

    If VLane invested there you can bet that they use the same lawyers and or accountants. Customs and Excise or Isle of Mann Crimestoppers are the best places to report suspicious behaviour if you have any proof that Bowdoin of VLane invested there. One of the VLane mods was British (SusyQ) if my memory serves me right. She needs thorough questioning by the right authorities. There is also a TalkGold mod who is Welsh and that one should be asked a few questions. There is also a Welsh Adlandpro cheerleader.

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    You need time to be accepted at RS "beenhad." It is a bit like being in the dentist's chair! If they can find any infection you will loose your teeth!. If you pass muster and rectify past mistakes, you will have help growing more powerful "fangs."

    I listened to the VLane hype with incredulity and I read the cheerleeders "ASA rag" from cover to cover. There is one question that has eluded me from the day of it's launch till now. You can send information to me of Eagle privately or post an opinion here. I want to know more about Annie tranlady4000 or some similar number. Was she a poor deluded fool who thought Vee knew it all or was she up to her neck in quicksand?

    Annie deserted Vee and became an ASA moderator. (Suspicious!) I fought Annie in public on the ASA forum. She would swear that she told no lies on "God's Honour", "The Holy Bible" her lawyer etc. When I asked her if she would make an IRREVOCABLE UNDERTAKING to pay me a small sum, if she ever got caught out in a network of lies. Annie understood that legal point and she decided not to give me her irrevocable undertaking.

    I do not think that this scam will vanish into the mists of time. There were people playing autosurfs for fun in those days. If Annie was one of those, she needs to be eliminated from the suspect list. If she was a big fish in the VLane pond, she needs disecting and the contents of her "Cyberspace Stomach" or wallet needs to be examined very carefully.
    Sorry I noticed a typo. I said that you could send information to me Of Eagle. I intended to say or Eagle. I am not a member of Eagle research. I am an interested bystander in the VLane saga. I "read the book" from cover to cover when it first came out.

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    No offence but what are you saying ? I don't wanted to be accepted to anything. I just want some information and ansers on how to get to the losers that stole my money ! Eagle one has been the only one that has made any sence or offered any info.

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    No offence but what are you saying ? I don't wanted to be accepted to anything. I just want some information and ansers on how to get to the losers that stole my money ! Eagle one has been the only one that has made any sence or offered any info.
    One of the main reasons for the existence of warning sites such as REALSCAM.com is the fact there is very little that can be done AFTER these HYIP ponzis collapse and the people behind them have disappeared.

    Public prosecutions of 'net fraudsters such as AdSurf Daily, CEP and Legisi are uncommon and by far the great majority of HYIP scams go uninvestigated, much less prosecuted.

    It's a sad fact that investigating these things is a long, slow and complicated business and the agencies charged with policing them are overworked, underpaid and restrained by their political masters.

    Sad though it may be, it is still factual.

    I know it's no consolation, but, for your own education, please have a read of this letter from a HYIP fraudster in which he explains in detail just how these people avoid detection/prosecution and, what's even worse, his contempt for the victims of his fraud.

    I am not trying to be unnecessarily negative or dissuade you from pursuing these fraudsters, far from it.

    HOWEVER, if there's anything a long time interest in watching these things has taught me, catching these criminals is extremely rare, the chances of victims' recouping any of their stolen money are even rarer and the only way to avoid being stung is to stay away.

    Many of these people are career professional criminals. There whole life is dedicated to avoiding detection.

    They are NOT just a few good 'ol boys making a few dollars on the side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post
    One of the main reasons for the existence of warning sites such as REALSCAM.com is the fact there is very little that can be done AFTER these HYIP ponzis collapse and the people behind them have disappeared.

    Public prosecutions of 'net fraudsters such as AdSurf Daily, CEP and Legisi are uncommon and by far the great majority of HYIP scams go uninvestigated, much less prosecuted.

    It's a sad fact that investigating these things is a long, slow and complicated business and the agencies charged with policing them are overworked, underpaid and restrained by their political masters.

    Sad though it may be, it is still factual.

    I know it's no consolation, but, for your own education, please have a read of this letter from a HYIP fraudster in which he explains in detail just how these people avoid detection/prosecution and, what's even worse, his contempt for the victims of his fraud.

    I am not trying to be unnecessarily negative or dissuade you from pursuing these fraudsters, far from it.

    HOWEVER, if there's anything a long time interest in watching these things has taught me, catching these criminals is extremely rare, the chances of victims' recouping any of their stolen money are even rarer and the only way to avoid being stung is to stay away.

    Many of these people are career professional criminals. There whole life is dedicated to avoiding detection.

    They are NOT just a few good 'ol boys making a few dollars on the side.



    i undedrstand what you are saying and what this site is about.I was just hopeing somone else might have other l info. mara and vee were flimed and identified.
    these are there real i.d.'s

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    Did you attend the GMS conference in Michigan?



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