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    Re: Scam Thread - Advantage Conferences / Tim Darnell (Financial Planner from Allen, TX) / Jack Weinzierl

    WYK etc.,

    Just received an email from a friend of mine who heard it through the grapevine that AC has dropped it's Hidden treasure life product. Don't know if it's true, but if it is its in no small part to the efforts of you guys. Kudos people for standing up for the best interests of the American people. God bless the USA!

    Keep up the good work!

    TSI

    Here is another email that bothered me.

    Subj: RE: Tim FU correction - should of been addressed to you
    Date: 2/18/2006 4:45:19 P.M. Pacific Standard Time
    From: timd@advantageconferences.com
    To: ZKarelin@aol.com
    Sent from the Internet (Details)



    By the way, we just had an 80 year old, bed-ridden, black man qualify as an MMC-IV Mentor and make his first paying sale - $7,000.00 via Fed Ex to him! I love that we can offer an income opportunity that works for anybody who will persist.





    Blessings,





    Tim Darnell

    President

    Advantage Conferences

    Office: 972-727-4995

    1-888-832-7635

    Tim do you want me to be happy?

    VOAC
    Originally Posted by wishIknew
    Subj:
    RE: Can anyone please follow up

    Date:
    1/30/06 8:48:48 P.M. Pacific Standard Time

    From:
    timd@advantageconferences.com

    To:

    Sent from the Internet (Details)

    Success is imminent for those who don’t quit, .... Each Rep’s timing is unique, but with consistency, success happens for each one.

    We have proven the BBB was totally inaccurate in their postings and will win our lawsuit against them. A major governmental agency has agreed that they were inaccurate in their posting regarding their “pyramid” reference. Truth and our integrity is vindicated once again and will always be.

    Blessings,

    Tim Darnell

    President

    Advantage Conferences

    Office: 972-727-4995

    1-888-832-7635
    Tim should be in mental hospital judging from that e-mail. The BBB triumphed. Their motion for Summary Judgment was GRANTED in all respects and they were awarded all costs of court. Tim Darnell was called by a rep from the Texas Attorney General's Office who tried to get a refund for an elderly victim of that scam and Tim started having delusions again and decided that he had gotten a clean bill of health from the Texas Attorney General's Office and claimed they had said there is no way AC is a pyramid.

    He wrote under oath the following psychotic, lie-filled diatribe and as you will read Jack Weinzierl copied it. Please note that I wasn't the Plaintiff in that case at the time. Advantage Conferences had been in the red for more than 2 years and 3 months later declared chapter 7 bankruptcy in a desperate attempt to end this case and spend the defrauded senior into oblivion. Tim never has any hope of winning these cases, so he focuses an lying and side tracking a case as much as possible until he spends his opponent into giving up. Quite a sleazy way to do business.

    Attachment 223

    Darnell Resp SJ (2).pdf

    Soapboxmom 04-01-2007 12:40 AM Re: Advantage Conferences BS (Merged)

    1 Timothy 6

    False Teachers and True Contentment
    Teach and urge these things. 3 If anyone teaches a different doctrine and does not agree with the sound [2] words of our Lord Jesus Christ and the teaching that accords with godliness, 4 he is puffed up with conceit and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy craving for controversy and for quarrels about words, which produce envy, dissension, slander, evil suspicions, 5 and constant friction among people who are depraved in mind and deprived of the truth, imagining that godliness is a means of gain. 6 Now there is great gain in godliness with contentment, 7 for we brought nothing into the world, and [3] we cannot take anything out of the world. 8 But if we have food and clothing, with these we will be content. 9 But those who desire to be rich fall into temptation, into a snare, into many senseless and harmful desires that plunge people into ruin and destruction. 10 For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evils. It is through this craving that some have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with many pangs.
    Jack Weinzierl and Tim Darnell you ought to read this passage and apply it to your scam masquerading as a Christian marketplace ministry. You are on the path to perdition. You have destroyed the lives of many who have crossed your path.

    Soapboxmom
    deepsouth 04-02-2007 01:06 AM Re: Advantage Conferences BS (Merged)

    QUESTION: I haven't checked this site in some time. I was wondering if AC is still scamming people.


    I wonder how many members they had after the first of the year. I know they had about 500 before the end of the year. I was wondering how many decided not to pay the $49 to continue. I didn't renew because these creeps weren't going to get another cent of my money.

    I lost thousands of dollars because of their sleazy scam. I was just wondering if they're still carrying on with all their lies.
    Many great posts tearing apart everything Jack was posting at the time follow and then this gem:

    [QUOTE]BIGfranky75 04-12-2007 07:48 PM





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    Originally Posted by Tim Darnell
    I will tell you that arriving at this model has not been easy and has come about at no small price (literally millions of dollars and years out of my life).













    Hmmmm.... AC reps, i think it is completely reasonable to expect clarification of this statement and to request detail of said claim.

    Tim, if you have spent "millions of dollars" on the "development" of the AC business/opportunity, you would have clear and concise records detailing every penny spent. i think it is your duty to divulge this info to your "business partners" (the reps).... you are all in this together, right?

    AC reps, ask yourself this... why isn't this kind of information available to you? As an "investor" in a business opportunity, this is the kind of thing that any rational investor would request and would of course be provided with.

    Tim and Jack ~ i work in an industry that values privately held companies... for all sorts of reasons, such as buying and selling, etc. it is a given that when someone is asked to invest into a company (i know that in your twisted minds, you feel that the $10,000 entry fee [we all know to really "be in the business" you need to purchase a conference] is an investment in "themselves" [i.e., the reps]), it is assumed that they will receive all of the financial records of the company. why dont you make this data available, at least to the reps... what do you have to hide? what is your reason for not divulging it? it is the reponsible thing to do!

    AC reps... ask yourselves this.... then ask Tim and Jack if you can see the financial records of the company... it is your right as a rep. we expect the same of all public companies (and recieve such info), we expect a weekly or monthly financial report from our churches detailing the tithes and offerings (and if you dont recieve one, you are unfortunately probably attending a crooked church), why wouldnt we expect the same from a company that we just "invested" $10,000 with????

    seriously think about that.... Jack, your reps want answers!

    :mad:

    i know that you are reading this....i know that may be able to ignore our requests for answers... but for the sake of the people you scammed (the reps).... please give them the answers they deserve...
    Tim never had millions of dollars in the first place. These wild tales he insist on sharing are so ridiculous. Darnell is a delusional pauper on the fast track to the nearest park bench to live.

    Soapboxmom

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    Re: Scam Thread - Advantage Conferences / Tim Darnell (Financial Planner from Allen, TX) / Jack Weinzierl

    BIGfranky75 04-13-2007 09:52 PM



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    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TooLate4Me
    Soapboxmom,

    Why couldn't we all unite together and sue Jack personally? Since he's the one responsible and defrauded a lot of people, shouldn't he be the one that pays? It's interesting to note that Jack has now moved on to Vemma. I wander if the Vemma folks know the truth about this goofball? Something to think about. One last thing...how can a guy continue to con people when his name is all over the internet as being a CON ARTIST!?! What a tool! Has he no pride??? I feel for his family. I think he's completely deluded.






    hi toolate,

    as always, thanks for your posts...

    the problem is.... people like Jack prey on peopel that are entirely too trusting... half of his recruits probably dont even consider googling his name prior to joining up with him. is that smart? nope.... but that is the way he operates... no doubt he creates a sense of urgency to get his recruits to sign up immediately... if not on the spot, then as soon as possible. he doesnt want them to even consider talking to anyone else about it or to research it. i wouldnt be surprised if he even implied lack of faith or planted seeds of doubt into these poor, innocent, all-too-trusting peoples minds.... that is how a snake like this works... that is why most of the popel dont realize somethign is wrong until it is too late... they already handed him over their money and then they realize something is wrong.

    it certainly doesnt mean that the people that he cons into his schemes are stupid.... not at all, they are just too trusting and gullible. it could happne to any of us... he is a professional con-man... literally. like you said, he is very good at what he does, he is a smooth talker. it isnt a coincidence that he has jumped from one opportunity to the next... look at his track record... he has no credibility or integrity.... he is obviously morally deficient.

    folks, please.... lets stop this clown in his tracks... ask him about these posts... make him PROVE that we are wrong (he wont be able to)... dont just stand for his fast talking around the issue.

    TooLate4Me 04-14-2007 12:37 AM



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    Originally Posted by BIGfranky75
    hi toolate,

    as always, thanks for your posts...

    the problem is.... people like Jack prey on peopel that are entirely too trusting... half of his recruits probably dont even consider googling his name prior to joining up with him. is that smart? nope.... but that is the way he operates... no doubt he creates a sense of urgency to get his recruits to sign up immediately... if not on the spot, then as soon as possible. he doesnt want them to even consider talking to anyone else about it or to research it. i wouldnt be surprised if he even implied lack of faith or planted seeds of doubt into these poor, innocent, all-too-trusting peoples minds.... that is how a snake like this works... that is why most of the popel dont realize somethign is wrong until it is too late... they already handed him over their money and then they realize something is wrong.

    it certainly doesnt mean that the people that he cons into his schemes are stupid.... not at all, they are just too trusting and gullible. it could happne to any of us... he is a professional con-man... literally. like you said, he is very good at what he does, he is a smooth talker. it isnt a coincidence that he has jumped from one opportunity to the next... look at his track record... he has no credibility or integrity.... he is obviously morally deficient.

    folks, please.... lets stop this clown in his tracks... ask him about these posts... make him PROVE that we are wrong (he wont be able to)... dont just stand for his fast talking around the issue.





    BigFranky,

    You are correct...he and AC do prey on trusting people. I used to be as well. It was a financial lesson that really hurt! I don't know if anybody else has noticed, but if you go through all of Jack's posts you will see a common theme. Most anti-socials (which a lot of con artists are) will NEVER answer a question directly. They will deflect, change the subject, or evade it. He's done that on practically every post when he's been asked a DIRECT and SIMPLE question! Now, given that we all know Milken and Boesky are total anti-social personality disorders and Jack worked with them, it stands to reason that he may be one too. There's an interesting book by Martha Stout (Harvard Ph.d btw...) called "The Sociopath Next Door" and it is a great read! She says 1 in 25 people are anti-social personality disorders. The name of the disorder is misleading though...they are very sociable, charming, etc. They will do ANYTHING to ANYONE, even their own kids, spouse, etc. to make money or get ahead. Sounds like Jack to me! As poor Stephanie is either clueless or "looking the other way" b/c of the money. I'm thinking she is clueless. I may be wrong about her, but who knows.

    I will give Jack points for being well-versed in the bible and "holy-roller speak". He knows just enough to manipulate innocent people. BTW...he and Jim Streigel became "buddies" quickly. Streigel is one heck of a marketer and multi-millionaire...he is a shrewd businessman. It makes sense that he would sell Jack's house. If the feds do watch this board, I would tell them to go have a chat with Streigel b/c I'm sure much info. could be gleaned from him on Jack and Tim. I bet one could also get some juicy info. from Krider and Payne with Liberty League, as Tim used to be in business with them.

    It truly makes me sick knowing that some former reps lost their homes, life savings, and even their families b/c of AC. One last thing...I think Jack does put the pressure on these folks to "join now". I know he used to hang out in the mens' dept. at Neimans to get recruits. He'd run into people and tell them that he was golfing these days and that was his "work". When people saw him driving a Hummer and living in a big home...they quickly became intrigued and wanted to know more about AC. He got a few people that way. But mostly, I think he recruited wide, not down, by way of his relatives. I bet they are cussing him at this point!



    BIGfranky75 04-14-2007 02:01 AM



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    Originally Posted by TooLate4Me
    BigFranky,

    You are correct...he and AC do prey on trusting people. I used to be as well. It was a financial lesson that really hurt! I don't know if anybody else has noticed, but if you go through all of Jack's posts you will see a common theme. Most anti-socials (which a lot of con artists are) will NEVER answer a question directly. They will deflect, change the subject, or evade it. He's done that on practically every post when he's been asked a DIRECT and SIMPLE question! Now, given that we all know Milken and Boesky are total anti-social personality disorders and Jack worked with them, it stands to reason that he may be one too. There's an interesting book by Martha Stout (Harvard Ph.d btw...) called "The Sociopath Next Door" and it is a great read! She says 1 in 25 people are anti-social personality disorders. The name of the disorder is misleading though...they are very sociable, charming, etc. They will do ANYTHING to ANYONE, even their own kids, spouse, etc. to make money or get ahead. Sounds like Jack to me! As poor Stephanie is either clueless or "looking the other way" b/c of the money. I'm thinking she is clueless. I may be wrong about her, but who knows.

    I will give Jack points for being well-versed in the bible and "holy-roller speak". He knows just enough to manipulate innocent people. BTW...he and Jim Streigel became "buddies" quickly. Streigel is one heck of a marketer and multi-millionaire...he is a shrewd businessman. It makes sense that he would sell Jack's house. If the feds do watch this board, I would tell them to go have a chat with Streigel b/c I'm sure much info. could be gleaned from him on Jack and Tim. I bet one could also get some juicy info. from Krider and Payne with Liberty League, as Tim used to be in business with them.

    It truly makes me sick knowing that some former reps lost their homes, life savings, and even their families b/c of AC. One last thing...I think Jack does put the pressure on these folks to "join now". I know he used to hang out in the mens' dept. at Neimans to get recruits. He'd run into people and tell them that he was golfing these days and that was his "work". When people saw him driving a Hummer and living in a big home...they quickly became intrigued and wanted to know more about AC. He got a few people that way. But mostly, I think he recruited wide, not down, by way of his relatives. I bet they are cussing him at this point!





    wow, another great post, toolate. thanks for contributing... i am glad that you found our little thread here!

    i couldnt agree with you more... no doubt in my mind that Jack is a very sick man... he obviously has serious problems. i feel for him. i feel for anyone that inherently makes evil choices... make no mistake.... what he and Tim are doing, whether they know it or not (and personally, i think that they do), is very, VERY evil. and it is anything BUT Christian.

    and another point you made is dead on.... his use of the Bible to do evil works. unfortunately many, many con-men use the Bible to their advantage. it is an absolute egregious sin. i have written about it many times on this and other AC related threads, anyone (salesman, pastor, evangelist, etc.) that focuses on the "prosperity gospel" typically has an something to gain from the "giving" and is usually a crook...99% of the time.

    Jack is SICK.

    TooLate4Me 04-15-2007 12:12 AM


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    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Soapboxmom
    http://www.cottonwoodcreek.org/adults/abf_classes.pdf




    Scammer, Tim Darnell, is still in a leadership position at the church. Please join me in demanding he be removed from any leadership positions and prevented from solicitation of any kind.

    Soapboxmom





    Soapboxmom,

    While I realize nobody's perfect, I am consistently amazed at some people who are in leadership roles within a church. Case in point, a guy from my church was a leader of a house group and was also a CONVICTED and registered CHILD MOLESTER!!! So was one other guy in our bible study. But, none of us knew it until about 4 years later. The leader of our group was allowed to VOLUNTEER in the NURSERY also!!!! A little ridiculous if you ask me. I guess most churches don't discriminate, but, come on, I wouldn't want my kid being watched by a child molester! That being said, nothing would surprise me at this point. Does the Pastor at Cottonwood realize what Tim's doing?

    Wishyouknew 04-15-2007 10:04 AM


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    I have personally mailed a few peices of literature to Tim's paster regarding Tim.

    That church is above average in members and growing every week. I am sure they do not have a shortage of potential leadership in the church.
    TooLate4Me 04-15-2007 12:02 PM


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    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BIGfranky75
    wow, another great post, toolate. thanks for contributing... i am glad that you found our little thread here!

    i couldnt agree with you more... no doubt in my mind that Jack is a very sick man... he obviously has serious problems. i feel for him. i feel for anyone that inherently makes evil choices... make no mistake.... what he and Tim are doing, whether they know it or not (and personally, i think that they do), is very, VERY evil. and it is anything BUT Christian.

    and another point you made is dead on.... his use of the Bible to do evil works. unfortunately many, many con-men use the Bible to their advantage. it is an absolute egregious sin. i have written about it many times on this and other AC related threads, anyone (salesman, pastor, evangelist, etc.) that focuses on the "prosperity gospel" typically has an something to gain from the "giving" and is usually a crook...99% of the time.

    Jack is SICK.




    BigFranky,

    Glad to contribute if it will keep scam.com rankings high so future victims can see us while doing "due diligence". You mentioned above in para. 2 that you believe Tim and Jack know that what they are doing is evil. I can see thru Jack for the most part, but Tim...well, he really is a likeable guy. Do you think he really knows deep down, or do you think this was his "dream" and it just failed? Seriously, the guy seems sincere with his ministry work, prison stuff, singing, etc. If he knows than I think he is more dangerous and scarier than Jack. It's the one's that blend in so well that are successful. I mean, I know I've been awfully naive in the past, but Tim is REALLY good at acting! These guys border on being brilliant. Think about how much work it would require to con thousands of Christian people out of $10K apiece.

    Another interesting book on evil is by M. Scott Peck called "People of the Lie". He posits that there are some people who are just plain evil. No disorder, no mental illness, just very evil. Interesting theory. It would be most fascinating to see a brain scan of these individuals. They can't be like the rest of us. Just my .02.

    __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ _______________________

    Page 57 of 95.pdf

    It is very clear now to me that Darnell and Weinzierl are plain pure evil. I have spent enough time with them and this sordid saga to know!

    Soapboxmom

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    Re: Scam Thread - Advantage Conferences / Tim Darnell (Financial Planner from Allen, TX) / Jack Weinzierl

    Soapboxmom 04-21-2007 04:50 AM



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    KING’s Conference
    Kingdom Impact thru iNspired Giving!
    Premier Advantage Conferences Christian Events

    At the KING’s Conferences, attendees are privileged to absorb the powerful stories, examples, and lives of several unusual Christian Givers. Attendees are taught the pure joy and privilege of ‘iNspired Giving’ of both their time and money.

    The iNspired Giving message sometimes occurs via sermon, guilt, or emotional pleas. But it happens spontaneously and in greater dimension at KING’s Conferences through Giving Example, where we share incredible lifestyles of several highly successful, iNspired Givers and what iNspired Giving has meant for their lives.

    People give more when they are INSPIRED to give. Holy Spirit-led conviction in a person’s life creates a resolute, genuine release of resources for God’s work. The KING’s Conference is simply an eye-opener to the very great reward that we find in Giving. Indeed, Giving is the Key to Miracles. Giving is the foundation for fulfilled living.

    The church has historically been reluctant to talk about money and/or giving due to the misunderstanding and misapplication of many scriptures; as well as the mostly unspoken tradition of keeping money and spiritual matters separate – “don’t mention Christ in business, and don’t mention money/business in church.”

    Attendees at the KING’s Conference are taught that God wants to be and should be 100% in our hearts, AND 100% included and relied upon in our day to day activities in the marketplace. Genuine Christians are not ashamed to give God honor and glory in our businesses, our websites, our phone calls, our activities, our mission statements, our schedules, our finances, and our very lives. When we turn it all over to Him, we begin to see “Thy Kingdom come, on earth as it is in heaven”.

    When we find out what others are doing to glorify God, especially in their ‘off-the-chart’ Giving practices that transcend the minimalist/token Giving in which most engage, then we discover that we can’t “out-Give”, or “out-trust” Him too much. We find that we can greatly amplify what we have done in the past – and when we do make that move, everyone wins!

    KING’s Conferences serve to supplement the role of pastors or ministries as regards the necessity to preach about money or ask one more time that their membership give (again). KC’s are a powerful, third-party catalyst. Monies are raised, commitments are made, and donations increase all as a result of the stimulus, excitement and conviction about Giving that occurs at a KING’s Conference. It is an event that truly impacts Attendees attitudinally about their commitment to God with their bank accounts and service to the KING!

    See if you agree with the following: “It is time for God’s children to wake up – to get out of the complacency of ‘playing church’, or ‘pretend Christianity’. It is time to quit playing small-ball, but rather step up to the plate. This is the final inning in the final Game – yes, this is the Big Game – the Game of Life!”



    Good God, Tim Darnell and Jack Weinzierl, how many ridiculous schemes are you going to come up with? The Dec. 2004 conference never happened. So, no corporate sponsors, or Hawaii contest.

    The "Brilliant Business" conferences, newsletters and collections bombed. The Brilliant Business collection was $97 and now it is on fire sale for $19.95. Tim is one of the authors, doesn't that say it all? LOL

    The Quarterly Teaching series bombed and disappeared. Your Rich Niche seminar bombed and disappeared. Your Virtual Vault is also a fire sale special reduced from $69.90 to $14.90.

    The conferences have changed names many times. First you advertised the Brilliant Business conference in March 2004. Later in 2004 it morphed into the Footsteps of Faith Wealth Building Conference which never happened. In 2005 18 months after coming up with this scam Tim Darnell is still trying to get a conference off the ground. In 2005 we get our first Millionaire Mindset Conference. These morph into the Treasures for the Kingdom version of the MMC. Timmy only has managed 4 conferences so far. The first one in Dallas seated a whopping 30 people.

    Tim keeps inventing ridiculous names and catch phrases to lure in folks so he can pocket their money. Reps you have a responsiblility to stop this egotistical, dishonest slime Tim from interfering with true people of God who work through established churches and genuinely serve the folks in their parrish. Please join me in speaking out against Tim using Christianity as a means to swindle folks out of their money. This is so sick and twisted!

    Soapboxmom

    Wishyouknew 04-21-2007 09:29 AM



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    Tim is really using his Group Psychology to his full extent here. What a crazy cult leader this guy is.

    He is trying to establish a cult like group that will follow his every jump, from one business venture to the next.

    I almost think Tim has brainwashed these people so far that he could almost tell them anything and they would follow his lead..

    Do people not realize that this guy has made some of the dumbest business decisions that I have EVER scene in the history of business. It's like he is digging his grave in the business world deeper every day..

    I will give Tim this, some how he talked his wife into remaining married to him and able to raise good kids through all of his trials and stupid business moves he has made.

    Its very suprising to me that his kids are actually pretty good kids. They too are very clue less to what there dad is doing..
    Soapboxmom 05-02-2007 08:42 AM


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    It is time for the real challenge, Jack. Let's see who has some spheres!

    Quote:

    Advantage Conferences Christian Entrepreneur Ministry Blog
    The truth about negative posting sites
    Tuesday, May 1, 2007 at 10:57AM
    Here are a few facts about Negative Posting Sites (such as scam dot com) that most people don’t know. I am continually attacked on this site and their complete disregard for the truth is appalling.


    This site is not negative, but rather open to all viewpionts. You, scammer, have been on here under at least 5 identities. Do TruthVs.Fiction, SoapBoxDad, ShiningLight, Jack Weinzierl and JackWeinzierl ring a bell, you brainless idiot. You were only banned for breaking the forum rules against advertising. Heck, the head moderator is pro Network Marketing and currently in an MLM.

    Your problem is I have attorney friends over yonder and access to all the court documents from the frivolous lawsuit Tim Darnell filed against the Better Business Bureau and Dr. Jon Taylor and LOST in a one page summary judgment. Everyone now knows all the lies and misrepresentations Advantage Conferences, Tim Darnell, and you Jacko have propagated. I also have directly quoted every piece of drivel you goons have posted on the internet and have received tons of emails you have sent to your reps and shared ones I had permission to post. Your former reps are good Christians and desperately want to see you are kept from harming others, but as you have threatened and coerced them they depend on Mom here to share their information with the unsuspecting public.
    Quote:

    1. Negative Posting Sites routinely BAR the TARGETED PERSON/COMPANY FROM POSTING. The site’s owners have full editorial control over what content is posted, and who is able to post. For example, Tim Darnell is not allowed to post on their blog an answer or refutation to the accusations that are levied at him. E-mails coming from his e-mail addresses are blocked. Why? Sensible postings containing truth and reality don’t drive traffic to Negative Posting Sites. Sometimes a refutation will briefly stimulate the number of postings, but eventually they slow the flow. The negative postings are easily exposed and laid to rest with a few short sentences if readers were really looking for veracity and truth. But that is not at all the basis for the sites’ business model. It is the strength of Negative Posting Sites’ business models that fictitious slander is their dominant theme and content. They will allow some positive postings that counter the negatives into the mix to add the dimension of controversy. But a disproportionate balance of negative over positive postings draws greater interest and viewership, and therefore profit to their site - not a genuine understanding of the truth of a matter.


    The site will allow almost anything to be posted. Only post that would violate the law or forum rules in some way are removed, but there is no review of anything before it is put up. I can post whatever the heck I want knowing it will be up. I have never had a post removed as is the case with the vast majority of posters here.

    Tim Darnell could register and post any time he wants. He just doesn't have the spheres to do it. I would love to get him on here. Can that wimp who depends on you, Jack, to make his desicions even post for himself? You said only a few short sentences would expose me and lay this to rest. Get your buns back on here, Jack. We are waiting and God is watching, dear boy. You were such a stunning success with the 5 IDs you have used so far. LOL!

    I told you, you spineless goon, to quit the veiled and blatant threats to sue me and just do it. Your lawyers can come on here or contact wserra and you can do it. You haven't taken me up on that challenge for over a year now because you know the truth is an absolute defense and is completely on my side. You lost in a most embarassing summary judgment against the BBB and will not fare any better against me. Why haven't you goons appealed that decision?

    The only reason the majority of post are against this opportunity is because it is, as the BBB originally deemed it, a pyramid scheme and Tim Darnell's own figures show a 98% loss rate. All the bunk about making 100 grand to a million is just bunk. 98% lose to line the pockets of a few winners like our lying scammer, Wacko Jacko. As of Sept. 2006 there were no retail sales of the conference. Very few reps are willing to come on and defend this bum deal it seems from the post we have. And that was of their own volition, not because scam.com won't let them come on and join the fray.


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    2. Negative posting sites are EXTREMELY PROFITABLE BUSINESSES. The sites receive tremendous revenues in the form of Pay per Click advertising. The sites make fortunes on Tim Darnell’s name generated by Google searches about him, his work, writings, ministry and business (the same with all of the better known ministers, authors, and business owners). So it is in the site’s best interest (balance sheets) to keep the negative, tantalizing postings coming in regularly and in sizeable amounts. The negative posting sites really are a brilliant business model as regards profit. They know that a sizeable segment of the public are ‘suckers’ for negative information. There is simply a high demand for suspicion and smut and the public proves that fact by buying that information multiple times over boring, “noble” reporting. And, what’s even more ludicrous, they not only crave and buy this negative info – they actually believe it!


    The truth is the only thing I posted with appropriate commentary and opinions. And you have spent enough time on here to know no one at this site could tell me how often or what to post. I am not a yellow bellied coward like you boys, but rather a bit hard headed and tenacious. The truth won't line the pockets of scammers, though will it Jack?
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    It makes total sense. Take a step back and think about the content of virtually all media, and ask the question, “what sells”? Do people rush out to buy stories about the positive good that ministers and entrepreneurs say and do; or do they demand shocking, accusatory, slanderous gossip that fuels their suspicions and fears? Of course the latter creates the much larger draw. The public demands negativity and titillating gossip whether the reports and stories contain any truth at all. Truth is in no way the criteria for the postings in a scam dot com or Hollywood celebrity reporting (the Enquirer, for example). No, scintillating stories sell much better! This is a sad, but factual commentary about what the average person wants to view, how they spend their time, and what they actually buy. To repeat, what is worse is that way too many well-meaning people actually believe the postings and accept them as factual.


    Personally I like the good samaritan stories and that is why we have reached out to many families in our area as we heard of their plight in our local paper. If there is anything in my post you disagree with you are free to come on here with documentation and set the facts straight. You just seem to be hopelessly bereft of facts, my boy!

    People have come away believing what is here because I deal with fact, calculations and opinions that would be reseaonably drawn from such. There is only positive in alerting folks to scams that will lose 98% of participants upwards of 20 grand.

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    3. PAID POSTERS: Negative Posting Site Companies pay negative posters to keep the pot stirred - the more negativity the better. And the public is quick to rush in, fuel the fire, and believe virtually any statements made. If a site doesn’t have consistent negative postings, then traffic to the site would dwindle and eventually die a natural death. The sites can’t afford for that to happen. Obviously, it is important to keep the negative postings coming in on a regular basis. It makes one wonder what the job description of a Negative Poster is – “Vice President of Assassination”, “Director of Mischief and Mayhem” or, “Fictional Prefabrication Editor”?


    I have told you repeatedly and even the moderator has come on the threads and confirmed it---I am not and have never been paid to post. You, Jack, knew you were lying when you wrote that. It's your own doing getting yourself in trouble. You are sounding quite rattled. Are coming unraveled, boy? The traffic generated by this thread on Advantage Conferences will be gone very soon. You will soon run out of warm recruits or face action by the authorities.

    Spheres continued below..............

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    Re: Scam Thread - Advantage Conferences / Tim Darnell (Financial Planner from Allen, TX) / Jack Weinzierl

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    Spheres continued:

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    4. ANONYMOUS POSTINGS: Of course, the vast majority of postings are made by anonymous posters. Posters are smart for not putting their real names on their messages for the fact that many of their postings are unquestionably libelous, some being actionable in a court of law. The predominant posters are “un-findable”. Is this all starting to make sense?




    If there are grounds for legal action in my post then why all the veiled and obvious threats of litigation and no action, Tim and Jack? You haven't got the spheres to do it as we have seen for quite a while now, scammers. I told you to have your lawyers come on here! You have so threatened and coerced your reps that have seen the light and gotten out many are afraid to post because of fear of retribution from you and Tim. They live in the Dallas area and can't afford to get involved in an acrimonious relationship that will make their lives any more miserable than they already are thanks to you boys. Former reps don't want to spend thousands of dollars fighting your frivolous lawsuits. We all know you can't win, but did the victorious BBB get all their cost reimbursed as the judge ordered or did Tim stiff them too? We all have seen the public records and know all about you scammers!
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    5.FOREIGN LOCATION: Further, most people are not aware, and frankly don’t really care that scam dot com is a foreign owned and operated company based in Finland . The owners are not identified, nor is their location or contact information posted where the average web surfer can find it. Obscurity and anonymity allows their business to go untouched and protected from lawsuits regarding their complicity to the slander and libel from which they make their millions of dollars. Brilliant business model, would you not agree?




    Uh, last time I checked the owners weren't in Finland. Get your facts straight my boy! There is contact info for anyone who is interested. I guess you are a little slow on the take, Jacko.
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    6. DUE DILIGENCE Sabotage: Making decisions based on unsubstantiated opinions is the sure-fire way to be totally misguided in one’s decision making process. Does it make any sense whatsoever to form an opinion based on an anonymous poster who claims to have secret insights and proofs about their targeted person or company? Does it make sense to accept those inflammatory opinions without talking to the accused person or to respected persons with whom they are closely associated? Getting information from a Negative Posting Site is not due diligence at all, and in fact is exactly counter-productive to genuine due diligence. People formulating opinions from these sites are simply being deceived.




    Folks, you can read here, talk to the scammers, read the BBB report, read the Houton Press article, read all the court documents, contact ex reps who post here. When you are done you are sure to find that the information you got here was instrumental in your decision making process and led you to many resources. Jack and Tim want your 10 grand. I just want to share pertinent information with you. I am not compensated in any way for what I do here. I will not profit or benefit in any way except for the fact all the many reps and their family members are comforted knowing others will not be hurt by you dishonest goons, Tim and Jack.
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    In summary, the only people being scammed are those who view and fall for the ridiculous, negative content on the scam dot coms of the world. Negative Posting Sites play on peoples’ unquenchable thirst for scintillating accusation and innuendo. The owners of these sites know full-well that the suspicions and fears of a gullible and uninformed public can be manipulated and utilized, resulting in tremendous profits. Don’t fall for this deceptive nonsense. If you do, you will find out from first-hand experience who is actually being scammed and why this particular site is appropriately named.

    Posted by Jack Weinzierl |




    Hey, lunkhead. I hope this site profits handsomely off of me. I am thrilled to have the chance to expose scams like Advantage Conferences. The only ones being scammed are the good trusting folks that you have bilked out of 10-20 grand. So, Jacko rise to the challenge! Tim declared a holy war. He acts like I am attacking Christianity, when you both know I am only attacking your egregious pyramid scheme that uses religion as a tool to con innocent folks out of their life savings. So, bring it on, boys! Let's see who really has the spheres!

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    Wishyouknew 05-02-2007 09:38 AM




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    Jack,

    I think posting that junk on your website will prove to be one of the dumbest business moves you will ever see. You just brought even more attention to scam.com to those whom might not have found it!
    __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ ___________________
    Tim Darnell writes the lie-filled diatribe and Jack Weinzierl goes berserk and posts it online. Looking back at this is really something knowing the the BBB and I kicked you sorry scammers in the butt and you could never produce a single false statement made by me. Talk about making total fools out of yourselves and committing business suicide!

    This site generates no income and posts only get removed if I darn well feel like it. So, we will be enjoying every bit of this sordid saga's history!

    Page 58 of 95.pdf

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    Re: Scam Thread - Advantage Conferences / Tim Darnell (Financial Planner from Allen, TX) / Jack Weinzierl

    Soapboxmom 05-12-2007 09:30 AM









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    Ever Wish You Could

    From: Jim Wald (jwaldmail@advantageconferences.com)
    Date: Fri Sep 24 2004 - 05:05:33 PDT

    Ever wish you could be "lucky" enough to be invited to have a top position
    in a powerful, Multi-Million Dollar Company in the very beginning days of
    its operation?

    Ever wonder what it would be like to have Growing Income that comes in on a
    regular basis, just because you made a single "savvy" business decision?

    THIS IS YOUR INVITATION!

    This may be the only time in your life to receive such a timely invitation.
    I can't imagine circumstances aligning more perfectly for you. Be
    absolutely assured that this is indeed real and that the benefits and
    rewards that you are about to have dropped in your lap are genuinely
    life-changing!

    Think about it - the odds of your getting a personal e-mail from the Founder
    and President of a high profile start-up Company poised to create an
    estimated $10,000,000 in sales in the next 12 months
    are literally one in
    2,000,000 (that's two million) - so, no kidding, this is unusual and, by
    anybody's estimation...

    AN EXTREMELY FORTUNATE POSITION FOR YOU TO FIND YOURSELF!

    You can pass this off as "too good to be true", or a "scam", but the fact is
    - neither assessment could be further from the truth. Sometimes things are
    at the same time good and true , and this is UNMISTAKEABLY one of those
    times!

    Whether you are skeptical or excited at this point, your next step is to
    take about twenty minutes to read an intriguing and informative document
    that will explain exactly what it is we are doing, what we are marketing,
    and why you can be positioned to make a verifiable fortune. This is an
    absolutely free report - at no cost whatsoever to you - The Amazing
    "Footstep Report". This document will give you a very good overview of this
    sizzling, once in a lifetime opportunity and how you can begin prospering
    immediately. But don't skim it. READ IT THOROUGHLY. Don't even think you
    have a remote clue as to what we're doing and what is about to transpire,
    because, unless you've talked to me personally over the phone in the last
    month - there is no way you can know.

    BUT - there is one caveat. I have a self-imposed time line that requires a
    response from you upon reading this unusual E-mail. If you can make a
    decision within ten days of downloading the Report, I'll be giving you
    highly valuable components of our business that you will find valuable,
    compelling and exciting. I'm literally talking thousands of dollars in
    benefits and value - to you!

    So, all I ask in return is that once you've read The Footstep Report, you
    listen in on one of our powerful and stimulating Teleconference Overview
    Calls. We have deliberately created room for only a handful of respondents,
    first come first serve, due to the fact that there are only a handful of
    positions available. If you are a person who can't make a timely decision
    once you've been given all the details, then the time limit will weed you
    out of the picture, which is unfortunately what must happen in order for us
    to find the right people in the beginning and achieve our Corporate goals.
    By virtue of your receiving this message, you can be one of those special
    individuals.

    Do you have to have business, marketing, or sales experience? Read the
    Report. You will be blown away...

    Here's the link: The
    Amazing Footstep Report

    The likelihood of your being contacted again is, frankly, not all that
    great. You are being contacted because we know each other. If you know me
    and you decide not to respond, then there is no way you will benefit from
    the imminent exposure to our extensive databases of Millions of People. I
    know that what I'm offering you is beyond anything you've ever been offered
    before, and quite likely, will ever be offered again. That is the truth and
    it is that simple.

    In fact, whether you respond or not, that three million people campaign (for
    starters) will launch in the next few days and a significant portion of the
    overwhelming response that we WILL RECEIVE WILL PAY YOU SIGNIFICANT MONEY if
    you decide to accept this generous offer!

    The Amazing Footstep
    Report details everything, but you may not believe it or "get it" until you
    attend the Teleconference Overview Call and are apprised again of the
    information that you've read - information which will be clearly and simply
    stated on our live call. The Report has a link for you to register for that
    Teleconference, and I highly recommend you make every effort to be a part of
    this powerful information and launch. You will find the interactive
    question and answer period at the end of the call to be very helpful as
    well.

    So, with Everything to Gain and nothing to lose, just click, download, read,
    and make a timely decision as to how you want to handle the bounty that has
    just been dropped in your lap.
    The Amazing Footstep
    Report

    It's my pleasure and your extremely good fortune that we have communicated
    early in the process!

    In Service,

    Tim Darnell

    President - Advantage Conferences

    P.S. - Your name or E-mail address will not be sold, distributed, or shared
    with anybody else whatsoever, whether we get together or not - you have my
    word on it.

    P.S.S. - If you can stand $2,550.00 coming to your home or business address
    multiple times a month, you'll really want to make the simple commitment of
    taking twenty minutes out of your schedule to read
    The Amazing Footstep
    Report.

    This E-mail complies fully with the January 1, 2004 "Can-Spam Act". If you
    would like to be removed from this list, simply reply with the word "remove"
    in the subject line or click this link
    unsubscribe.
    Your address will be deleted immediately.

    The Footstep Report in both content and form is copyrighted by law - 2004
    Advantage Conferences, LLC. Copying, duplicating, or plagiarism of concepts
    could invoke penalties and/or legal action.

    Advantage Conferences, LLC ~1513 Home Park Dr. ~ Allen, TX 75002

    Jim Wald 105 Highview Dr. ~ Cocoa, FL 32922 ~ 1-866-300-8089









    This is too hilarious to ignore. Please note the date of Sept. 2004. Tim Darnell's company making 10 million in the first year he projects. Only a handful of positions and exposure of the oportunity to millions of people? Seriously boys. And the "Footstep Report" is not copyrighted as if that was a big surprise.

    Soapboxmom

    Wishyouknew 05-14-2007 08:42 AM









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    Got to go to Mr. Darnells Church this morning and got to hear Mr. Darnell sing on stage.

    I have to say I get a weird vibe about going to that church and from listening to the paster

    Maybe its because I know so much negative information about Mr. Darnell.

    I was shocked to see he is still teaching his Sunday school class.

    I just get a weird vibe about the Paster and some of the associate pasters as well.

    I, as well as others have sent letters to the Head Paster warning him about Tim Darnell. Has he not read them? Does he not care?
    Does he think as long as the Church can keep this quit we can sweep this under the rug?

    I don't get it..

    But, I guess thats one of the MANY reasons I don't go to that Church.

    I do hear MANY great things about the church from many others. I know its a great growing church and that God is alive in the church-- I guess, I just have my wonders!
    __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ _________________
    Tim Darnell wrote that lie-filled sleazy solicitation knowing it was completely dishonest. He had written a comp plan for United Sciences that had been deemed illegal by 3 Attorneys General. He had been involved in the large ticket pyramid scam Global Prosperity where he learned the fine art of tax evasion. Following that teaching got him slapped with a whopping $97,265.17 tax lien in January 2011 for the 2005 taxes he had refused to pay.

    Darnell followed that with the conference scam, Tru Dynamics. That deal went belly up and Darnell was sued by his downline. In order to weasel out of that suit and spend his victim into giving up Darnell renounced his United States Citizenship and declared he was not a resident of Texas either. Darnell is such a complete sleaze that he conned his mother-in-law into joining the ranks of the non-citizens and publicly humiliated her by having her make an Affidavit in support of his renouncing his citizenship. Amazingly, his wife Cathy allowed him to do that and hasn't divorced him after that demented caper.

    Tim Darnell went on to found Liberty League, but bailed after only 6 weeks to set up that quickly bankrupt pyramid scam run out of his home, All Star Entrepreneur. Darnell proudly proclaimed that he was the founder and president as he accrued the tens of thousands in debt that Claudia Cawley had to list in the bankruptcy after coward Darnell bailed knowing the conference in Ireland people had paid $12,995.00 wasn't going to happen.

    As All Star Entrepreneur imploded into bankruptcy and the angry reps were hounding Darnell, he decided to reinvent the scam as Advantage Conferences and claim it was God-ordained and Christ-centered and carry on as usual. Jim Wald was one of the All Star rejects that followed him to the next scam. Though the boys claim to have a database of millions of people, Tim Darnell has no business acumen and was never able to market worth beans. From June 2003 until Jack Weinzierl came in in 2005 Darnell had 13 reps in Advantage Conferences. Most of these reps (zero customers, of course) were rejects from All Star that had spent a fortune and were just hanging on hoping to recoup some money. Jack B. had blown $21,000.00 on All Star and when he left he had plenty to say to Darnell.


    Evil Dictator Letters.pdf

    What a load of $hit from Darnell. What multi-million dollar company? His reps were giving him money to live off of when he was writing that psychotic diatribe. He admitted under oath Advantage Conferences had taken in almost nothing in 2003-2004. Tim Darnell had $200,000.00 in credit card debt by early 2005. His Jaguar, which was supposed to have been a giveaway car to some All Star reps that won the contest, was repoed for non-payment after Ford credit sued his sorry butt in Collin County. Darnell could best be described as a lying pauper! He wrote in his insane inspirational book, Slay Your Giant, and testified under oath that he had been borrowing toilet paper and toiletries from the neighbors due to his financial situation and that was with his wife working as a physical therapist making $70,000.00 a year with overtime. Obviously, his businesses have been nothing but catastrophic failures and his spend lie you are successful and fake it even though you will never make lifestyle has ruined them financially. And, lest we forget, he was a tax protestor nutbag and didn't pay any taxes from 1999-2005.

    Think about it - the odds of your getting a personal e-mail from the Founder
    and President of a high profile start-up Company poised to create an
    estimated $10,000,000 in sales in the next 12 months
    are literally one in
    2,000,000 (that's two million) - so, no kidding, this is unusual and, by
    anybody's estimation...
    It's an e-mail from a confirmed serial scammer and con artist! Advantage Conferences in its best year 2005 made 1.67 million dollars before paying out 60% of that to the rep field. Most of that went to scammer-in-chief, Jack Weinzierl, who was spending $6,000.00 or more a month advertising and had suckered in his pastor brother and nephew and his ding-a-ling father-in-law. All of who received refunds when the other reps in desperate need of them were denied any refund. From there Advantage Conferences plunged down the toilet. When the BBB decision came out in late 2006 and the incredible Houston Press article was published that started the huge mass exodus and Advantage Conferences was far into the red by May 2007 when the BBB practically emptied their account.

    The nerve of scammer Darnell to suggest one will be in a position to make a "verifiable fortune." He then rambles on about getting the report and recieving " I'm literally talking thousands of dollars in benefits and value - to you!" 98% lose money in these deals and many lose thousands and thousands of dollars. That story of a 3 million person campaign is beyond laughable. They only had 13 reps from June 2003 until 2005 (this trash was written in September 2004) and no more reps or money really started rolling in until Jack Weinzierl started blowing the big bucks advertising in February 2005. Darnell makes his usual legal threat at the bottom. Does he think that makes him look like a powerful successful businessman? His legal antics have in fact destroyed any shred of credibility he ever had. Buffoonery and douchebaggery galore!

    Darnell in his demonic attempt to brainwash his reps proclaimed that Satan was attacking Advantage Conferences. It is more like the Satanic Darnell is attacking Cottonwood Creek Baptist Church and they won't do what is biblical and expel him from the congregation as the bible teaches. The family Tim Darnell threatened, the Bonnemas and others have left the church. Why this church continues to allow him to put the church and its members in danger I can't imagine, especially knowing that numerous families have contacted them.

    Soapboxmom

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    Re: Scam Thread - Advantage Conferences / Tim Darnell (Financial Planner from Allen, TX) / Jack Weinzierl

    Soapboxmom 05-17-2007 08:56 PM

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    http://www.advantage-conferences-tra...f-success.html

    Jack Zufelt is a rah-rah MLM success trainer, but Advantage Conferences reps don't need that. Tim Darnell, Jack and company have said all along it is NOT MLM, so why on earth would AC want a speaker like that? Jack Zufelt is going to be peddling piles of CDs, books and video tapes. But you ACers don't need them. I'll say it again. Its not MLM!

    AC says:
    Quote:

    You will not be making any presentations.
    You will do no selling, telling, convincing or persuading.
    You will not be making a list and contacting your friends and family.
    You will not be doing home parties.

    Save your money and stay home! 13 rooms booked means this is going down like the Titanic and you can hear that speaker for much less if you are hot to do so.

    Jack Zufelt: The DNA of SUCCESS
    Quote:

    For only $79.95, you can receive what others pay $10,000 (or more) for..Listen to the sessions, apply what I share with you and if they do not live up to your high standards then return the training album and I will give you a full $79.95 refund.

    .
    TooLate4Me 05-17-2007 10:58 PM

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    BigFranky75,

    You are dead on with the above post! At most of the conferences the speakers were peddling their wares at a table in the back. If AC was such a great conference, Tim would not allow other people in and sell their stuff to us in addition to the $10K. Effing ridiculous if you ask me. I've NEVER even heard of this guy. Comical that anybody can throw up a website and put whatever they want on it and make money by scamming people.

    I hope a lot of people find this website while pursuing their due diligence and avoid AC at all costs! Maybe we should picket out front of the hotel!?! Or, is anyone out there close enough to get the attendees names? We could mail them something. Remember, it's not libel or slander if it's true!!!
    Soapboxmom 05-25-2007 10:44 PM

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    Quote:

    The Countdown has Begun--Will YOU be There?
    Tuesday, May 22, 2007 at 11:37AM
    The countdown has begun. Givers Magazine is about to launch, going to print in the next five days. Advantage Conferences, the Company, our powerful products, and AC's incredible home income opportunity will be distributed throughout the US and Canada and many parts of the world. For example, we just received an order for 250 magazines from India this morning!

    Also, our fifth and most powerful Mindset Mentoring Conference takes place in three weeks at the Omni Mandalay, Irving, Texas - June 15-16. Included in that weekend will be Advantage Conference Convention on Thursday the 14th of June.

    PLUS, the kickoff of our newest Conference offering, KING's Conferences will be previewed on that same Thursday evening, the 14th at 7:30, and the room will be packed. KING's Conferences will be partnering with one of the largest and most predominant, household brand name ministries in the world, and is a unique, stimulating meeting that is enlivening and stirring Christians around the world!

    What that means is that AC's exposure, stature, and influence is about to erupt! Will you just sit by and watch or will you take action and join this powerful movement?

    It shouldn't be too difficult a decision.

    By the way, Tim Darnell, AC’s Founder and President is personally hosting the $7,000.00 Call this evening. I would love to have you on board.

    Step 3 Overview Call Tonight at 8 pm central
    605-772-3900 Pin 642612#

    In His Service,

    Jack Weinzierl
    Advantage Conferences......

    Treat this business as if you have invested $1 million into it. And for those on the line who have yet to upgrade and purchase the MMC-IV President’s Package, be in prayer this week and ask the Lord for the resources to do so. Commit to your business. Commit to be in Dallas in 1 month. Commit to build this business and be bold in sharing this with others to impact their lives. It is our responsibility to do so....
    See you at the MMC, June 15-16, 2007!!!!!

    ++++++++++
    The Mindset Mentoring Conference from Advantage Conferences is something you do NOT want to miss. And you only have a very short time left to register!

    If you are at a place in your life where you're ready to say YES!

    .....to ALL that God has for your life, spiritually, relationally, financially, then you're going to need mentors.

    Will you be there??? Jack won't be there on Friday the 15th of June. The scammin' boy has to close on the house he had to unload, presumably before the bank got it. If he doesn't care enough to show up why should you waste 1 or 10 grand plus hotel, airfare, rental car, food and expenses to show up for this joke of a conference? The only powerful movement here is innocent folks seeing their hard earned money mentored into Jack's and Tim's bank accounts. Jack isn't committed to attending. He should just be committed!

    Soapboxmom

    Houston Biz Inc 05-25-2007 11:13 PM

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    As a Christian Businessman, it was important to me to find a legitimate home business that has a real, quality product that is under priced and is NOT: (not over priced lotions, potions and energy drinks that can purchased anywhere for less…I have heard a lot about this company and decided to look for another opportunity

    When I began my search for a home business, I began to get a clear picture of what I did not want. What I found is a company I would recommend to any one. A company that IS NOT MLM, and actually offer a turnkey business solutions with amazing on-line educational products, world-class training held via conference calls daily and a very lucrative compensation plan!

    The team of online entrepreneurs that I was introduced to, are some of the most compassionate, caring people I have ever come into contact with personally or professionally. They allowed me to take a complete look at this business without any pressure or hype what so ever.

    For a FREE NO OBLIGATION look at a real home business that will earn you a minimum of $1,000 per transaction and if the thought of develop 100K your first year in your own business is appealing to you go to my website below:

    Clyde Houston
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    www.CashFlow4u.com

    txfan 05-26-2007 01:09 AM

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    PLUS, the kickoff of our newest Conference offering, KING's Conferences will be previewed on that same Thursday evening, the 14th at 7:30, and the room will be packed

    HA!! The only room that might be packed with 13 people is the BATHROOM!!
    JackWeinzierl 05-28-2007 12:16 PM

    Re: Advantage Conferences BS (Merged)

    One of my team members sent me this post this evening. We all ignore the ignorance posted here by the likes of you SBM. SoapBoxMom, you continue to spread lies and innuendo. So very sad. It is so nice to share my heart on my site and not pollute my mindset here. And thank you for the nasty private message. Pray for those who persecute you, so I will continue to do so.

    BTW, you are really reaching and incorrect yet again in your information. We close on our home on June 13th and I will be at convention, as well as the MMC. It will be my 5th and I wouldn't miss it. In addition, you attacked me for living in a "mansion" then you attack me when I am selling. Too humorous. Had to unload??? Before the bank owns it??? is a classic. Another example of your outright lies.

    Here is the truth. We did downsize our property as $900 water bills are just not good stewardship. We have built a wonderful home and in fact, it is a substantial sum more than the house we sold, so you are incorrect yet again. It amazes me the lengths you will go to attempt to bring others into your way of looking at wealth and the world.

    You will simply gloss over this, not take any responsibility for your lies and then begin another attack on 1/2 truths or worse.

    Be blessed SBM and I encourage everyone to subscribe to my Blog. And SBM, still hiding behind a screen name I see.
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    The conference speakers were a joke. Notice, Tim brags "that AC's exposure, stature, and influence is about to erupt! Will you just sit by and watch or will you take action and join this powerful movement?" Tim had just had AC's account garnished. The BBB took $10,000.00 towarrd its judgment against AC leaving $500.00. Jack was broke and Tim had to swindle an 80 year old rep our of $30,000.00 to keep the thing floating. Jack quit paying on his new mansion a year later and it was foreclosed on in the summer of 2009. My crystal ball was working fabulously.

    The King's Conferences were a big flop. Albert Surovik had one is his little church and that was the end of that joke of a business idea. The featured speaker whose video was used, Arch Bonnema, is down the toilet after his own misadventures in life insurance and is fighting litigation over it including his own very elderly parents suing him. Glad I archived the immortal lies of Jack Weinzierl for posterity!

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    The next Scam page is loaded with original court documents. Those scared Jack Weinzierl off. He bragged about the 1.23 million dollar tract Chateau he bought and then had foreclosed just two years later resulting in the bank taking a more than half million dollar bloodbath before he ran for the hills.

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    Re: Scam Thread - Advantage Conferences / Tim Darnell (Financial Planner from Allen, TX) / Jack Weinzierl

    Page 61 is absolutely loaded with juicy court docs! Enjoy!!!

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    Re: Scam Thread - Advantage Conferences / Tim Darnell (Financial Planner from Allen, TX) / Jack Weinzierl

    The absolutely shocking bankruptcy docs from Tim Darnell's All Star Entrepreneur are posted on page 62 as well as photos from my covert visit to the 5th and second to last scamference held here in Dallas. So much for Weinzierl and Darnell sweeping all this under the rug.

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    Re: Scam Thread - Advantage Conferences / Tim Darnell (Financial Planner from Allen, TX) / Jack Weinzierl

    Page 63 has the scamference shots of Timmy (grinning like the moronic idiot he is) with Bill Bates. Hello, Timmy, God didn't give you Bill Bates for a speaker. You conned an 80 year old rep out of $30,000.00 around that time and paid through the nose to get Bates. AC was far into the red in the summer of 2007. The BBB had just emptied your business account thanks to your frivolous losing lawsuit against them! Too bad Bill didn't get asked about that!

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    Re: Scam Thread - Advantage Conferences / Tim Darnell (Financial Planner from Allen, TX) / Jack Weinzierl

    It is getting hot in the kitchen on page 64. A thread is started by what appears to be a victim of AC. That person threatens to shoot Jack Weinzierl. I had noticed that thread and reported it to the authorities and Weinzierl that day. Jack, being a complete lunatic, decides that I am the author of the thread and though he claims in 2007 that he reported it to the authorities, he actually didn't do so. A year and a half later he e-mailed me asking for the IP and e-mail of the poster of the death threat so he could take action. By then it was too late and the authorities wouldn't act. Once again Jack has made a complete and utter fool of himself publicly.

    We then learn that Timmy has been singing the praises of Scam Caster, his wife Linda and Merri-Jo Hillaker of Mannatech fame. The scamming wenches both spoke at AC's scamferences. Mannatech was such a sleazy MLM (claiming their sugar pills cured cancer among other things) that the Texas Attorney General's office took action against them. Timmy sure knows how to pick 'em.

    We get our first glimpse of one of Tim's Cease and Desist lie-filled threatening letters and Jack's e-mail to Rep X threatening to charge her $300.00 an hour. Is he running a service for lovely older ladies???



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    Re: Scam Thread - Advantage Conferences / Tim Darnell (Financial Planner from Allen, TX) / Jack Weinzierl

    your success timeline is ultimately in God's hands.
    Jack and Tim constantly handed that to the victims of their scam to keep them roped in and the money flowing into their greedy hands Well, scammers, God has led me to continue to expose you and see that no more of his children are ever hurt by your scams and vicious lies.

    Tim and Jack go on about how attendance at the upcoming scamference and turning over information about contacts from me is mandatory. I loved announcing I had submarined them and run off speakers. We are then treated to Jack and Tim's lawsuit threats and more. What George Dranichak deletes I archive!

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    God is watching and we are waiting to see Jack and Timmy fall to their knees, compensate their victims and repent!

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