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    Tim Darnell / Jack Weinzierl / Advantage Conferences Earnings Representations

    The following documents are exhibits from the District Court case in Collin County. Tim Darnell and Jack Weinzierl used these misrepresentations to defraud hundreds of people. It was Darnell's fifth conference scam. Advantage Conferences and it predecessor imploded into bankruptcy. 98% of the reps lost money. Many of those were out thousands of dollars. Folks lost their life savings, went hungry, drowned in credit card debt, spent retirement funds, took out loans and / or faced foreclosure. Not one millionaire was created.

    AC sued the Dallas Better Business Bureau and lost. This adjudicated pyramid scheme and its scammers-in-chief kept the doors open long after knowing almost everyone involved was being harmed financially. Jack Weinzierl was mentored straight into chapter 7 bankruptcy.

    Trial Exhibits.pdf

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    Re: Tim Darnell / Jack Weinzierl / Advantage Conferences Earnings Representations







    $7,000 Profits to You…


    Imagine tomorrow seeing a Federal Express truck pulling up to your door. The driver hurries to your doorstep, rings your doorbell and hands you a Fed Ex letter containing a crisp $7,000.00 check with my signature on it.

    We call the Federal Express vehicle, “The Happy Truck”, and I think you can see why. Imagine being taught a system designed for you to experience the thrill of having the Happy Truck pull up to your house or apartment OVER and OVER AGAIN delivering $7,000 checks!


    Introducing…




    Powered by the…







    THE


    $7,000.00


    in


    Your Bank Account


    Over and Over Again


    Strategy


    Could that kind of income get you excited? The first time that check comes in, you will be hooked. You’ll never be able to look at another way of making income. Once you ‘get’ the Millionaire Mindset Income Producing System©, everything else is too involved, boring, or just not profitable enough!

    You may have made that kind of cash before. You may do it all the time. But, whether you do or not, if you would like to have a dynamic, automated method that is legitimate, ethical and effective at bringing strong cash flow in on a consistent regular basis, then you will want to understand and implement a simple process known as the Millionaire Mindset Income Producing System©!

    This System is designed to make you serious money – ethically, legally, professionally and absolutely uniquely!


    Four Simple Essentials


    In Place for You


    1. A Legitimate, Extremely Valuable Product that pays a whopping $7,000 Commission on every transaction!

    2. A Company that supplies and orchestrates all aspects of the Millionaire Mindset Income Producing System© and is willing to pay you a higher commission on each transaction (Reverse Margin™) than received by the Company. In other words, your commission is higher than the wholesale amount taken in by the Company!

    3. An “A to Z” Marketing Method, called the Millionaire Mindset Income Producing System© that locates thousands of income opportunity seekers for you inexpensively and quickly, and then delivers a concise communication that identifies those of like mind and purpose!

    4. Closing Calls and Three Ways for your prospects by the professionals at Advantage Conferences that finalizes each transaction!


    You Provide


    A. Absolute Belief in the Process – ‘doubters’, ‘skeptics’ need not apply

    B. Commitment to Follow Simple Instructions

    C. Resourcefulness to get your business started


    Hi. My name is Tim Darnell and I have an observation. If I can show you a simple and easy method for creating significant cash flow ($7,000 a month, a week, and eventually every few days and more), could you get excited about that kind of income and what it could do for your life?

    How many times would you like to have that happen for you? I would assume you would like to see those kinds of checks as often as possible!


    Your Economic Situation


    is the


    Only One that Really Matters!


    Even if you were a multi-millionaire, I think you would agree that a $7,000 check arriving at your doorstep tomorrow, would be exciting for your personal economic situation. Your wife or your husband – heck, your entire family - would all think you were a genius wouldn’t they?

    But when the Happy Truck begins visiting your house on a regular basis, your friends and neighbors are going to want to know what you are doing and how they can start getting the same results!



    How Most People React


    to Opportunity


    Most people have a rush of excitement when they think about the possibility of having a $7,000 check in their name come to their house. BUT due to Negative Programming that many people experience from an early age, they quickly dismiss legitimate concepts and opportunity as “too good to be true”.

    That assessment would, unfortunately, be a MAJOR MISTAKE. It would be absolutely wrong! And the worst part of making that mistake would be the loss of a life-changing income stream in your own business!

    And so I urge you to take the time to review Advantage Conference’s Millionaire Mindset Income Producing System© with a fine tooth comb. Having been in the conference production industry in one phase or another for the past twenty years, I can tell you that this particular concept is the best the market place has ever witnessed!

    What this is not:
    § MLM (multi-level marketing)
    § Home Party Plan
    § Work your buns off for $200 / month or less
    § Envelope stuffing
    § Medical billing
    § A pyramid or ‘airplane’ money game
    § A chain letter
    § A binary
    § Off-shore investment scheme

    § A host of goofy, embarrassing, ‘hair-brained’ schemes

    What this is:
    § Simple and Professional
    § Genuine Potential for Immediate and Long-term Cash Flow
    § Seamless Marketing Process
    § Solid Company in Business since 1998 whose Principal has been involved in some aspect of Conference production for 20 plus years

    § Sophisticated Internet, Radio, and Direct Mail Lead Generation
    § Daily, Hands-on Mentoring
    § Ability to Make Tens of Thousands of Dollars QUICKLY
    § Ability to Make $7,000 plus - Over & Over Again
    § Part Time or Full Time
    § Genuine Emphasis on Integrity
    § Long Term Career Opportunity
    § Educational – Multiple Skills taught that will transfer to many other business scenarios

    § No Previous Experience Required
    § Transactions are Quick – Not Drawn Out
    § Sales Closed by Professionals at Advantage Conferences

    Who this is for:
    § People New to Business
    § Professional Entrepreneurs / Business People
    § Professionals looking for a Career Change
    § Employee Tired of Corporate Politics / Instability of the Job Market

    § Senior Interested in Additional Income

    § Someone Desiring to Work from Home

    § Achievement Minded Entrepreneurs






    Bottom Line

    The Millionaire Mindset Income Producing System© is professionally designed and formulated to dramatically improve Your Financial Situation… It is, without a doubt one of the strongest, if not THE strongest income opportunity in America today.

    If you are comfortable with your current financial and professional life and not really totally committed to making a positive change in your life, then thanks for reading to this point. But be very clear about this – the window of opportunity here is relatively small. Once many others become aware of this opportunity, your ability to capitalize may not be as strong as it is right now.

    My suggestion to you is this:

    § TAKE ACTION
    § MAKE A POSITIVE DECISION TO MOVE FORWARD NOW!
    § FILL OUT THE INTEREST FORM requesting the “Advantage Conference’s Income Producing System Starter Information Pak”.

    If you don’t make a move now, YOU KNOW you will never make a move. And only someone who dares to initiate forward motion ever sees the increased freedom and income that I believe you really want AND DESERVE to have.

    What I want you to do is fill out the Easy Information Form and get the information that will show you how to start making serious money now with the professional team at Advantage Conferences. You will receive several exciting documents, including a Power Point Presentation that will help you visualize how our powerful Reverse Margin™ commissions are paid.

    You must act now. The odds of your ever having this kind of opportunity presented to you again are quite low. If you are motivated, you will take initiative now.


    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *


    Yes, Mr. Darnell. I would like to know more about being part of Advantage Conferences and the Millionaire Mindset Income Producing System that provides $7,000 commissionswith each transaction!

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    Re: Tim Darnell / Jack Weinzierl / Advantage Conferences Earnings Representations

    Thank You for Your Interest!

    Please check all boxes that apply to you:
    Yes, I would like to find out more about earning $7,000 on an ongoing basis!

    Yes, I would like to find out more about earning $160,000 within six weeks EVERY SIX WEEKS!



    Yes, I am serious about earning

    $100,000 plus this year

    $250,000 plus this year

    $500,000 plus this year

    $1,000,000 plus this year

    I want access to the complimentary "Getting Started E-Package".

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    Re: Tim Darnell / Jack Weinzierl / Advantage Conferences Earnings Representations

    Welcome!

    Advantage Conferences is a great company with two opportunities. The first is the Mindset Mentoring products which will change the way you think about finances and teach you the responsibilities that come with great wealth. The second is an opportunity to build a business that will create wealth for you and your family. Advantage Conferences will change your life if you are looking for that change.

    We are committed to building our Advantage Conferences team based on honesty, integrity, and a commitment to help others. This foundation of mutual trust has served me well in my traditional business career, and it serves us all well here.

    One of the things I am most excited about is the fact that we teach every person, regardless of marketing or internet skills how to make $7,000 Over and Over Again. This is not a bunch of theory that someone reads about—these are the tools and strategies that helped me qualify and then earn $28,000 my first month with Advantage Conferences. In fact, we were able to use the same 3 Simple Steps to generate $109,700 in our first 120 days in this business and over $95,500 in our 5th month alone. And FOLKS, this is from a person who has never earned more than $4,500 a month in a home based business, SO I know it was not Jack Weinzierl. It was our 3 Simple Steps where I have not made 1 sales call or 1 cold call. We are now approaching $1 million in commissions in our first 27 months with Advantage Conferences and I have a passion for mentoring others to use their God-given gifts and talents to the fullest.

    I have my MBA and I was in the medical technology business for over 15 years. My wife, Stephanie, is a gifted teacher and we are actively involved in our ministry in the greater Dallas area. We have three children under 10 years of age and we are building this business to help people change their lives, giving them both time and financial freedom.

    You can meet our family at: http://picturetrail.com/jweinzierl.

    It is time to believe in you! Ignore the skepticism of friends and family and build a business for yourself, not by yourself.

    God has a buffet of promises for all of us and we need to get out of our seat and receive those blessings. Let’s start your future, today!

    In Service,

    Jack and Stephanie Weinzierl

    Flower Mound, TX
    817.205.9513
    jack@advantageconferences.com



    Contact your Pro Rep at: jack@advantageconferences.com
    or complete the online Interest Form
    __________________________________________________ _______
    98% of the reps lost money paying it up to the few top reps like Jack.

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    Re: Tim Darnell / Jack Weinzierl / Advantage Conferences Earnings Representations

    Advantage Conferences
    Posted on Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 06:07PM by Jack Weinzierl |
    Our 7th MMC and the Next 100 Only

    At Advantage Conferences, we decided to make an unprecedented strategic move in the month of February, something we've not done at any time throughout four, almost five full years of operation. It's a maneuver that was designed to broaden our market reach, and we're seeing a reaction unfolding exactly like we were expecting. It's a maneuver that mirrors the Fed's lowering of the prime interest rate over and over again. Fortune 500 Companies across the world are responding in kind and in similar ways. Simply put, we've lowered our price on our best selling product, the MMC-IV President's Package to help individuals gain the cutting edge (the "advantage") in their personal lives...but we will only offer this for a very brief period of time.

    This incredible window of opportunity is limited, very limited. 100 people ONLY will be privileged to cash in on this significantly reduced price point. Once 100 purchases occur at this super low price point, then the real price will be reinstated at its appropriate and much more accurate valuation. Frankly, 100 ticket purchases to our 7th MMC relative to our domestic and international expansion initiatives, well, 100 is a very small number. And with the amount of time we have to promote this event (more than 8 months), many, no, the majority of people, will end up paying much higher pricing should they not act quickly enough.

    100 is the number. And "7" refers to this being our 7th Mindset Mentoring Conference. How well I remember promoting the very first MMC in early 2005, with no track record and no idea of how profoundly powerful these events would turn out to be. It was all "theory" back then. Now, we know that the reality of this concept was indeed to be even more explosive than we could ever have imagined!

    The tickets are going fast...and yet the conference is still over eight months away, all factors that require a timely decision and definitive action. 100 is the parameter we're using to determine when the price will go back to its more appropriate level, but 100 transactions will go fast. Will you capitalize on this urgent situation? I know you will find a way to do so...capitalize on this opportunity with your contacts and yourself. After all, who deserves it more than you do, and the people you know?
    How exciting is this? The only thing that is more exciting will be the actual event itself...the Mindset Mentoring Conference. I can't wait to see you there! It will be the best experience we've ever had!

    Let's get your reservation in before the end of next week to ensure your spot.
    In Service,
    Jack Weinzierl
    Advantage Conferences
    817.205.9513
    __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ _____________
    That conference never happened. Advantage Conferences never hosted another conference. In fact, Jack made almost no money that year and didn't renew for 2009. Of the just over $800,000.00 he bragged of making most of that was earned in 2005-2006. The only urgent situation was Jack was sinking into chapter 7 bankruptcy which he would file in the summer of 2008. He claimed $200,000.00 in credit card debt and only $800 in that bank at that time. He would have happily taken anyone else he could con down with him. Urgent indeed!!!

    __________________________________________________ ______________________
    Flower Mound, TX (PRWEB) January 18, 2007
    Jack Weinzierl, President and Founder of OneOasis.com from Flower Mound, Texas, is seeking Entrepreneurs for his expanding International Advantage Conferences marketplace ministry. Jack launched his Advantage Conferences marketplace ministry two years ago after being the president and owner of a medical device company and a network marketing firm. Jack has earned in excess of $762,245.50 with Advantage Conferences as an Independent Representative.

    "What is most important is that you believe in and are passionate about the product you're representing. I decided to partner with Advantage Conferences 2 years ago, as the business focused on Christian entrepreneurial mentoring, which is important," he continued. Jack had evaluated over 110 network marketing companies before deciding to partner with Advantage Conferences. "I really needed a business that was based on a strong biblical foundation instead of the new age content being taught in many network marketing companies," stated Jack.
    What is this product that Jack is so passionate about? Ongoing Christian Entrepreneurial Mentoring.

    Solomon states in Proverbs, "He who gets wisdom loves his own soul; he who cherishes understanding prospers." He also says, "Plans fail for lack of counsel, but with many advisers they succeed". Those two verses are powerful, yet only a small example of wisdom found in the Word of God - teaching that is more relevant today than ever. Advantage Conferences is a dynamic marketplace ministry that provides ongoing Christ-centered Mentoring for entrepreneurs and business owners, as well as training for corporate employees.

    Weekly Tele-Mentoring calls, powerful recorded audio and DVD packages, and profound Seminars and Conferences effectively help individuals optimize their business and personal lives. The trainings, conducted by Advantage Conferences Founder and Author, Tim Darnell, along with dozens of highly successful and professional Christian Millionaires is rock-solid mentoring that is providing life-changing impact for hundreds of Advantage Conferences clients on an ongoing basis.

    "But it isn't just having a great product that matters," he said. "You've got to be committed to it as a business. This network marketing business is not a get-rich-quick scheme. I tell people that every chance I get. This is a building process; it is a 5 to10 year plan, and if you're willing to put some time and effort into it, you can do great."

    But Jack Weinzierl conducts his business a little differently than most network marketers.
    "I'm really not a salesman. I am terrible at closing. I just don't do it. I've been in the business long enough to learn almost everything you shouldn't do, so when I'm talking to someone about getting into the business, I really try to scare them out of it. And a few people decide it isn't for them. But if someone is considering it, I'll tell them to think about it for a few days. Pray about it with their spouse. It can be a very lucrative business opportunity. But anything worth doing is worth prayerful consideration."

    Jack also says his faith plays an important role in his business dealings.
    "It used to be that people were hesitant to let their faith come to the forefront of their business," he said. "But really, I think it's ridiculous to separate one's faith from their business. We are walking our talk every day in our Christ-centered Advantage Conferences business and life."

    About Advantage Conferences:
    Advantage Conferences, based in Allen, Texas, is focused on providing Ongoing Mindset Mentoring for business professionals and entrepreneurs. Dynamic mentoring is delivered through a variety of excellent training products and is appropriate for all enterprising people and business owners. Powerful and stimulating, Advantage Conferences is the Company and Product that is effectively impacting lives world-wide.

    To talk to Jack about his Christ-centered Advantage Conferences business mentoring products and the business opportunity, visit OneOasis.com or Jack's Advantage Conferences Marketplace Ministry Blog.
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    Re: Tim Darnell / Jack Weinzierl / Advantage Conferences Earnings Representations

    Tim Darnell, CEO Advantage Conferences,LLC
    is about to share with you for at no charge...

    The Single Most Important
    Asset You Can Possess for
    Business Success... Period
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    About six years ago I set out on a mission to develop
    a Company that offered a simple, doable income
    opportunity with which ANYBODY could find success.

    It has distressed me for years to realize that all the income
    opportunities out there have one thing in common...

    MOST PEOPLE DON'T MAKE ANY MONEY!

    Is it easy to create a program that provides solutions to the myriad problems inherent to those multi-million dollar companies? No, but it was and is a task I have been called to accomplish.From day one I could sense we were on to something very, very big, and for the bulk of that time I was missing only a few essential ingredients.

    By December of 2004, the final ingredients had fallen into place. After years of determined struggle, I knew, without any question of a d-o-u-b-t that God had graciously allowed me to solve the mystery. On January 1st of 2005, the Advantage Conferences business model – the most unique concept to ever be invented - was finally in place. Was I relieved to get out of the formation stage and into the launch phase? Yes, indeed!
    But the purpose of this message is to share one of the magnificent discoveries amidst this success journey... something I discovered for myself, and the one asset that will enable you to conquer any quest in your life you endeavor to conquer.
    You don't have to become a Rep with my Company in order for me to give you free of charge the greatest secret I could ever give to anybody, a revelation that has become extremely dear and clear to me. You can take this one concept to the bank, my friend, and you will know what it is upon reading this letter. To relate it to the business I eat, drink, breathe, and live - this single ingredient is the single difference in whether a person fails or MAKES A FORTUNE!
    If you know, REALLY KNOW, this one thing, you will know more than virtually any other business person out there, and certainly more than what the masses know. Truly successful people all have this one intrinsic commodity and know it to be crucially essential. When I mention it to them, they nod as if we were the only two people in the world who share this knowledge, and they are not far from being exactly right, for the fact that most people never, ever use it.
    This asset is so rare; and yet, you personally can obtain it as quickly as the next few moments and keep it for the rest of your life.
    Plain and Simple -
    This One Secret Will Make You Wealthy

    As sure as I'm communicating with you right now, this secret will make you rich beyond your fondest desires. It will make you so much money that your kids won't ever worry about their finances... seriously, even your grandkids won't worry about money! So, what is it, Tim?


    • A Charismatic Personality? Nope - not everybody wanting to hit a homerun in their financial life has a naturally charismatic personality. In fact, in our business, it can actually work against you... you see, it is critical that everything you do in our business is duplicatable by everyone. Charisma is great, but it is not duplicatable.

    • A Successful Sales Background? Nope - most people who are serious about making three, four or ten times the amount of money they are making now, and actually accomplish that with me DON'T have a successful sales or business background.

    • Marketing Experience? Very few individuals who make $21,000.00 or $35,000.00 a month or more have professional marketing experience at all. Even a degree in marketing seldom translates into even average marketing success. I am fortunate to ‘hang’ with many wildly successful people, and have many extremely successful Reps in our Company - and none of them ever mentions a marketing degree or past experience as a factor in their success.
    So... Assuming you've found the right business vehicle that has a product that is totally unique, and performs well beyond its price point (in our case, how about "zero" refund requests in five years!)... A unique and powerful product is critically essential.

    And... Once you've thoroughly dissected multiple compensation models, you can begin to genuinely understand the difference between a Multi-level program (in my opinion a completely unrealistic undertaking unless you have two years to build your business WITHOUT getting paid) Versus a Reverse MarginTM compensation model (accomplish the big, life-changing commissions with a handful of transactions without having to recruit a small continent of people), then you will have established a basis of comparison and understanding to choose a pay plan that is realistically the best paying plan and is "doable" for the common person. And... Once you've found a concept that matches your spiritual beliefs... if you are a secular person, you won’t have to search far, since the vast majority of opportunities out there never truly acknowledge God and certainly not Jesus Christ. Versus finding a Company that boldly and genuinely operates and acknowledges every day that God is in control.
    In Summary... You've got to find the right Company that offers a life-changing, highly valuable Product. You've got to find the right Company that offers the most powerful Comp Plan that pays better than all the others. And you’ve got to find the right Company that provides an environment that is the Appropriate Fit for your Spiritual Convictions



    Then All You Have to Do is Add the Special,

    Rare Ingredient I've been Alluding to...
    AND I GUARANTEE
    YOU WILL HAVE SUCCESS

    FANTASTIC SUCCESS!






    That's me on the left congratulating

    Jim Wald - MMC-IV Pro Rep




    $48,841.25 for the month of June alone!

    Here it is...
    That One, Super-Potent Ingredient
    I've been Talking About...

    Sustained


    Unwavering


    Belief


    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

    I want you to simply stop and think
    about these three powerful words.


    Have you ever implemented these words as the standard for and the foundation of any of your past projects or endeavors? How about as regards your faith in Jesus Christ - could it be characterized as Sustained Unwavering Belief (SUB)?



    How about your business? You could implement SUB with other business models that pay a tenth of what is offered at Advantage Conferences – but would that be wise? When you commit to building an Advantage Conferences business and then introduce these three words as your personal, persistent guiding "mantra" here, you will eventually make MORE MONEY IN A MONTH than you used to make in a year - and on an ONGOING BASIS!



    Can you commit to SUB? Can you make these three powerful words your guideline - the foundation for your 'modus operandi'? Frankly, I don't want or need a single Rep who is not capable of implementing SUB - one who has purposed to approach their enterprise with SUSTAINED UNWAVERING BELIEF.



    If you are the kind of person who is capable of Sustained Unwavering Belief (SUB) then you are the person who will make something powerful and rewarding out of your life. You will be a great contributor to your community and society at large. You will be a one of a kind, a very rare breed - set apart from the masses, because the masses can't and won't commit to Sustained Unwavering Belief.



    They may give a half-hearted, minimal, inconsistent effort, but because the power of SUB is rarely mentioned, recognized, modeled or taught, most will simply never embrace the reward of this amazing concept.



    SUB is the asset that distinguishes extremely successful people from those who simply pass through life in mediocre fashion. Commitment to Sustained Unwavering Belief is the one trait that can truly elevate the common person into rarified air that few ever experience - True Long-term, Dizzying Success.



    Would you be willing to commit to this idea? - Sustained Unwavering Belief? If you are that person - and by the way, I expect very few to have even read this far in this message, and even fewer to make the commitment I'm describing...



    BUT IF YOU ARE THAT ONE PERSON...
    THEN YOU DESERVE TO EXPERIENCE
    A NEW REALITY THAT WILL REWARD
    YOU AND YOUR FAMILY
    LIKE NO OTHER OPTION IN EXISTENCE

    Sustained Unwavering Belief:

    a rare and extremely powerful talent -
    an exceedingly rare trait.



    It is your personal choice and decision to
    embrace "SUB" into your life.
    And when you do you will be well on your way
    toward the Monster Success you've dreamed of...

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    Re: Tim Darnell / Jack Weinzierl / Advantage Conferences Earnings Representations

    Here is the Getting Started E-Package from September 2005:
    AC7020.pdf

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    Re: Tim Darnell / Jack Weinzierl / Advantage Conferences Earnings Representations

    Look what Tim Darnell was saying and Jack Weinzierl was publishing and distributing on his sites:

    The Biggest Mistake.pdf


    Startling Dynamic Innovations.pdf



    WARNING: Ignoring this letter, I promise you, will cost you a fortune in time, capital, and possibly important relationships.

    The Manifestation of the Problems -
    MOST PEOPLE (90+ PERCENT) IN HOME BUSINESSES
    DON’T MAKE MONEY


    Frankly, due to my being outspoken about these problems, I don’t have a whole lot of friends left in the other programs, meaning I have very few friends in the entire industry, unless they are working with me now. Se la vie, the truth must be told – those programs are unquestionably fundamentally flawed. People simply don’t like to hear that their business has problems.

    Serious Question of Ethics: I find it unconscionable that companies promote an income opportunity at which the overwhelming majority of people fail. The people who are exceptions to this statement (those who do succeed) comprise such a small percentage of people that it is a blatant misrepresentation for a company to parade their "stud’s" success in front of the unsuspecting public and say the opportunity is for everybody.



    The Positive News
    The good news is that through years of prayer, trial and error, consultation from several people who came into my life at precisely the right moment, a band of loyal followers which has now turned into a rapidly growing, powerful, international marketing force, endless rabbit trails, lawsuits, and unimaginable blind-sides, the following solutions have finally been revealed to me and have converged into A BUSINESS MODEL that is undeniably FAIR & WORKS FOR ANYBODY who is serious about making significant money! The changes are totally in the average income opportunity seeker’s favor. And, they make success absolutely predictable, more sizeable, and more quickly attainable than all the other models out there – and I can prove in black and white what I am saying is true.


    I will tell you that arriving at this model has not been easy and has come about at no small price (literally millions of dollars and years out of my life). I’m not saying this to complain, but rather to point out a basic premise of innovation - dynamic solutions are never cheap or easy to come by.

    News Flash: Fully 97% of all home based income opportunities are "dialing for dollar" programs.
    So take a look at this massive statistical dilemma: 90 percent of all enrollees in 97 percent of all programs are destined for failure because they can’t master basic necessary skill. SOLUTION: The Systematized Qualifying Process© takes the necessity for personal verbal skills and phone work out of the equation. The System is the star - not you, not the enrollee.

    Everything we’ve talked about so far is only Reason #1 that Advantage Conferences makes 100 times more sense than any other business opportunity out there. There are two more radical departure components that are just as important, if not more important than Reason #1, effectually setting this business model light years ahead of anything else you may be looking at.


    Not Hype – If you "get" what I’m explaining to you, then you’re beginning to see why so many "average" people are already making huge amounts of money with this new model. (If you knew what we paid out in commissions last week you would drop your jaw.)


    But be assured – this is not hype. No, this is rock-solid educational information from a professional, life-long, (and I don’t mind telling you) highly successful marketer explaining developments in the home based business world that you must know about.
    I trust you are listening and will take this info to heart.
    In service, Tim Darnell President




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    Actually a whopping 98% lost money in this pyramid scam, Advantage Conferences, as calculated from the court documents in the losing suit AC filed against the BBB. And, there was a stud paraded around like the buffoon he is. Jack Weinzierl, the resident stud, was mentored straight into chapter 7 bankruptcy in the summer of 2008 less than 3 years after this hilarious piece of fiction was written. Advantage Conferneces imploded into bankruptcy in December 2009. No doubt Tim Darnell has proof of the millions of dollars he spent at devising this losing business and compensation plan!

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    AC Earnings Claims.pdf

    "Tens of thousands of dollars QUICKLY" and make millions of dollars in a MATTER OF MONTHS"
    And guess who the Better Business Bureau said was making atypical earnings claims --- Jack Weinzierl.

    Jack Weinzierl Atypical Earnings.pdf

    Jack kept bilking Christians for two years longer to get every last penny he could wrangle out of good, trusting Christians. He didn't let the fact his deception had been exposed stop him.

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    Anyone that calls Advantage Conference a great company is a LIAR that caught up in the game.

    I am like 90%+ of those that signed up with AC, I lost money. In my case, I lost thousands of dollars.

    Advantage Conference people are really very creepy and scary. They know most everyone loses their money but yet they still try to deceive them. I guess it's just to help recover their loses.

    Most don't tell you about the thousands of dollars advertising that will be lost for the most part.

    Anyone promoting AC should be ashamed.

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    Friday, December 15, 2006

    TeleMentoring That Benefits Christian Entrepreneurs


    As a part of our teams Ongoing Christian Telementoring a couple hundred Entrepreneurs listen in every monday on a conference call called "TGIM" Thank God Its Monday call. Most people dread monday as the begining a the work week but the individuals on this call are excited to see what the week will have to offer. Its awesome the individuals on these calls are laying it out every single day not playing small ball and seeking biblical truth and clairity in direction. They are coming to a ever increasing realization of how to use their business endeavors as marketplace ministry.

    There was question asked to Jack Weinzierl,who was hosting the call, how do I create a sense of urgency and hunger in this business if we are comfortable and all our needs are met. I included Jacks response along with the notes from that TGIM CALL.

    We have a good life. Folks, I will just tell you right now, we are all called to do SO much more. It is not us four and no more. If you do not have that burning desire to do more, to be able to give more, I challenge you to get involved with some local charities or better yet, go on a mission trip where the invisible children live on garbage dumps. Do you see how that personal cocoon and comfort is a selfish mindset. We can and will do so much more to be different makers and not space takers. If you think that's all there is to go throughout our day, waking up early, commuting in traffic, going to work, coming home late, so that we can make just enough to afford our home, coffee so we can get up early for that job, clothes that we need to go to work, a car that we need to go to work, food that we need to go to work, and so on, you are mistaken. Think about it how ridiculous that really is. No wonder so many wake up in their 40s or 50s wondering what the purpose of life is. A mid-life crisis is really a "lack of purpose and passion"crisis.
    What lie have we bought into? And a new Corvette is not going to satify that void. Never will.
    I am reminded of a gentleman who shared at a recent conference I attended.
    He asked all of us, "Do dogs like bones?" Everyone said yes. But he quickly corrected us that Dogs like steak, but they settle for bones. How many of us have been settling for bones? They don't dislike bones, they settle for them! What is it they you are settling for?
    We were born to win, BUT we must choose to win. It involves you seeing yourself as God sees you and recognizing that your inheritance of the abundant life is here and now.
    Here and Now. There is a sense of urgency, not emergency we all need to operate under in our businesses and out lives. We all have the same hours in a day and days in the week. This sense of urgency is critical. I look at someone like our new MMC-IV team member, Steven Walle from Ft. Worth and in his first two weeks he will have two MMC-IVs, two MMC-Is, and he called last week with some of the top names in ministry who he called that have agreed to link to his AC site. These names blew me away and when I asked how he got through, he states, I simply called them.

    You may need a revelation in your life today. There's plenty of money out there folks. When we look at prosperity in the Bible it is more than just money. It means nothing lacking; wholeness; having everything you need and abundance.
    God created You for Greatness! Live and walk the vision. We need to see what God has promised us and that is in His Word.

    He said we are "Clothed with Power" It is not the spooky natural, but the Supernatural. We need to live the Word and we have to let God walk, control and lead our lives. If we see it in the Word, are we ready to live it out? When we do, we will have influence, we will be light because of who is in me. Our walk has to line up. We need to expect more.
    "For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future. Then you will call upon me and come and pray to me, and I will listen to you. You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart." (Jeremiah 29:11-13)
    Posted by Mike Melvin at 7:01 PM 1 comments

    Labels: Christian Entrepreneur


    Steven Walle said...I also love the Advantage Conferences tgim call with Jack Weinzierl. It is an awsome mindset we must develop. It all comes down to how much you give. Your giveing of time, money, and love determins how prosperious you will become. Also big props to Tim Darnell. Thank you Mike for this blog.
    In His Grip
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    9:27 PM

    __________________________________________________ _____________
    To: soapboxmom@hotmail.com
    Subject: Fwd: [TeamAC] Digest Number 963
    Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 09:57:20 -0600

    Heather, Note the following Reps who are now homeless.
    AC is producing poor homeless Reps instead of "millionaires."

    Blessings,



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    From: TeamAdvantageConferences@yahoogroups.com
    Date: December 15, 2007 2:20:57 AM CST
    To: TeamAdvantageConferences@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [TeamAC] Digest Number 963
    Reply-To: No Reply <notify-dg-TeamAdvantageConferences@yahoogroups.com>


    Messages In This Digest (2 Messages) 1.
    My Feeds! From: Steven Walle

    2.
    brother Steve and Nancy need our help From: Zadoc Henry


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    Posted by: "Steven Walle" stevenwalle@gmail.com
    Fri Dec 14, 2007 3:31 pm (PST)
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    In His Grip
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    (406) 849-5339
    Make your mark in the business world and leave a great legacy.
    blessedprosperity.com
    www.advantageconferences.com/inhisgrip
    Steven Walle's Christian song lyrics are at
    http://steven-walle.blogspot.com
    Christian Mindset Mentoring blogsite
    http://www.blessedprosperity.blogspot.com

    Hello Saints. I just thought I would share my feedburner feeds with
    you so you could subscribe to my blogs. They are as follows.
    http://feeds.feedburner.com/BlessedProsperity
    http://feeds.feedburner.com/Steven-Walle
    That's all I can remember right now, but there will be more later.
    Have a great prosperious weekend.
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    Posted by: "Zadoc Henry" ambassador7forchrist@yahoo.com ambassador7forchrist
    Fri Dec 14, 2007 8:52 pm (PST)
    Dear AC family,

    I got permission from our brother Steve to share that he and Nancy are going through a financial valley right.They are living out of their car in Tallahassee. To be honset, I don't know the details leading up to this homeless condition, but I want to encourage that prayer be made for them, and help given.

    As you are all aware, brother Steve is not allowing this situation to paralyze his activity here. He is still reaching out to help others.

    Let us pray for our brother and sister, and do what our Father would have us to do.

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    Advantage Conferences was a total flop. Not one single church bought a conference in the TFA program. As the departing rep noted, AC makes homeless reps. Not even scammer Weinzierl made a million. 98% of the Christian involved lost money. Many were out thousands! Who knows where the kind and wonderful blind man Steven Walle is now after AC??

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    From: acscammed@mail.com
    To: soapboxmom@hotmail.com
    Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 01:20:43 -0500
    Subject: HT Failure Casualties

    BTW - Here's a list of AC reps that were financially devistated due to the Hidden Treasures failure. Perhaps you can post this discretely......


    Texas Rep (me) - Filled Bankruptcy
    Nebraska Rep (Widowed Male) - Home Foreclosure
    Minnesota Reb (Single Mom) - Home Foreclosure
    Texas Rep (Single Mom) - Demise from a 6 figure income to spending retirement money for living costs
    Pennesylvainia Rep (Divorced Empty Nester) - Home Forclosure
    Maine Rep (Couple with 9 kids)- Home payments in arrears
    Steven (can't remember what state he's in) (Divorced Empty Nester)- Home Foreclosure

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    July 25,2006

    Christian Business Millonaire Mentor



    We know that the alarmingly high business failure statistics can be changed to favor more entrepreneurs. We know, without a shadow of a d-o-u-b-t that there are a few simple things business owners can do to double and even triple their net profits over the next year or two. Businesses rise or fall based on what thought processes are occurring (or not occurring) in their owner’s head – that vital six inch space between the ears. Is your “space” being rejuvenated, refreshed, stimulated and empowered, or is it just business as usual?

    The secret is very simple – it’s called pertinent education from those who have earned the right to teach others due to their uncommon success and rich experience – truly a wealth of knowledge. Education and vital information is what we provide at Advantage Conferences. We deliver the secrets, some of which are simple, some of which are nothing less than profound.

    Now you can learn things that you don’t already know that will impact you, your faith, your financial situation, and your business - all in a positive and profitable direction:
    Solid Information –
    Mindset, Mechanics, Faith & Finances

    All Taught by Successful Millionaires Who Have Accomplished What You Want To Accomplish

    We do this via mentoring from highly successful Christian Millionaires – Six, to be exact, at ongoing Millionaire Mindset Treasures for the Kingdom Conference, and then weekly on live or recorded teleconferences – all in a genuine Christian environment.
    It’s a fact: one idea alone can totally change the shape of your business, increasing profits and avoiding costly mistakes.

    The Millionaire Mindset Treasures for the Kingdom Conference is that unique and special concept designed specifically for entrepreneurs who believe there is more awaiting them.
    Posted by Mike Melvin at 8:02 AM
    __________________________________________________ _______________
    98% of the reps lost money and many were out thousands and thousands of dollars. Tim Darnell ended up with a $97,264.17 tax lien in 2005 as an avowed tax protester under this very tutelage. Advantage Conferences imploded into bankruptcy.

    Hook up with Tim Darnell, Jack Weinzierl and Mike Melvin and financial disaster will await you!

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    Tuesday, September 25, 2007


    A message from Tim Darnell

    Our TGIM Training Call this morning (Thank God it's Monday) had no training, and yet was possibly the most powerful call of hundreds to date. Why? We simply prayed together for about 40 minutes. Rep after Rep took turn praying humbly to God. What empowerment - I can't tell you how important this aspect of your life and financial situation, can be. It is the real reason AC is exploding and touching lives in more than 50 countries today.

    Question: How is the audio player on your computer? Working?
    If so, you are invited to hear some of the new audios that Candidates across the world will be hearing on our brand new 3 Simple Steps - Getting Started E-Package.
    When you get to the compensation plan, be sure to print out the schematic that is attached. When you understand this compensation plan, you will wonder why everyone is not an Advantage Conferences Representative. Plus, you may not be able to sleep the night you truly "get it".

    I spent years in the trenches dissecting, analyzing, and actually working a variety of compensation plan models (yawn), but the seemingly boring study of compensation plans has finally and truly paid off. Most of that time was spent figuring out why 99%of the plans "don't" work for all but a handful of elite success stories.

    I saw what worked for me and what absolutely did not. There are valid, yet universally little known reasons a plan works and is doable, or why a plan just looks good on a white board, but in reality simply doesn't work. This one (AC's Reverse MarginTM) works powerfully and potentially much more quickly for anyone who is teachable, patient, and can be consistent - the formula for any successful business.

    FYI, 90% of all AC Reps are part-time with full-time jobs. When their AC business income grows to a sizeable and steady amount, they may consider quitting to build AC full-time, but there's really no reason to quit a job. Keep the steady income and use AC income to put into the vehicle we show you in the Becoming Your Own Banker (Personal Banking Explosion) training. In a few years, you'll have an astonishing, rock-solid financial situation that will allow you to do virtually anything you have in mind.

    Anyway, I'm letting you in on three audios that are just now being released. My speaking on these audios is no big deal at all, but all 3 concepts are truly world-changing. One of them, the Personal Financial Mentoring audio will give you a small taste of the insight of our new Personal Financial Mentoring division started this month - talk about exciting!
    What about your world? Could it use a little changing in the positive direction?

    Click Here To Listen In
    You can listen to all three audios in less than 15 minutes.
    Feel free to forward this to others you think this may apply to, which would be anyone who has a bank account or has ever paid interest or finance charges before. By the way, interest and finance charges account for a full third of all the money you'll ever handle in your lifetime. (read the next sentence very carefully) Figuring out how to be paid that amount rather than you're paying it out is one of the most revolutionary concepts you'll ever be privileged to know.

    Changing lives in His Service,
    Tim Darnell, Founder and President
    Advantage Conferences



    Posted by Mike Melvin at 1:47 PM
    __________________________________________________ _____________________
    United Sciences of America
    On January 28, the Attorneys General of Texas, New York and California filed suit in their respective states, charging that USA, Inc., had made improper claims for their products and that their sales plan constituted an illegal pyramid scheme. In addition, the Texas suit charged that USA had not properly registered as a manufacturer, and the New York suit demanded that Chris Evert-Lloyd, Joe Montana, Steve Garvey, Gary Carter and Bill Rodgers appear in court to explain their financial relationship with the company. The New York Attorney General's office indicated that many USA distributors were not paid commissions owed them by the company. The California suit, filed by Supervising Deputy Attorney General Albert N. Sheldon, who had successfully prosecuted Herbalife, demanded civil penalties of at least $1,000,000 plus the cost of prosecution.
    On February 5, the District Court of Dallas County, Texas, issued a temporary injunction based on an agreement between USA and the Texas Attorney General. Its terms barred the company from:

    • Marketing any current products without sending a "correction letter" acceptable to the Attorney General to all distributors.
    • Shipping any products unless accompanied by an acceptable disclosure statement that they are not for the prevention or treatment of disease.
    • Representing that USA's products have any effect in: infectious and parasitic disease; tumors; endocrine, nutritional and metabolic diseases and immunity disorders (including AIDS); diseases of the blood; mental disorders; diseases of the nervous, circulatory, respiratory, digestive, genitourinary or musculoskeletal systems; complications of pregnancy or childbirth; birth defects; injury or poisoning; or ill-defined conditions.
    • Manufacturing any food products without being registered as a manufacturer by the Texas Commissioner of Health.
    • Selling products through a multilevel distributorship.
    Take a wild guess who wrote the compensation plan. None other than scammer Darnell as he testified under oath in his deposition in his frivolous suit against me. Read the pages in the actual document numbered 23-26. He wrote the plan and had no idea that 3 states Attorneys General had deemed it an illegal pyramid. He and Jack are either the biggest sissy liars on the planet or two of the worst cases of amnesia ever documented by medical science!

    Attachment 214

    Our incredible journalist scambuster, Craig Malisow nailed Darnell for that as well!!!

    Millionaire Mindsetters - Page 3 - News - Houston - Houston Press

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    This rep whose e-mails I am posting in the Evil Dictator Letters spent $21,000.00 in All Star Entrepreneur before it went bankrupt. He only made money as he got part of the tiny percentage of matrix commissions that were paid on each sale and he had Jack Weinzierl as a recruit under him in the towering pyramid. He never made his second training sale and qualified, so all he ever got was matrix commissions.

    In 2007 Jack Weinzierl had only a few sales as the scam was imploding, so there was almost nothing trickling upstream. Jack made almost all his big take in 2005-2006. Advantage Conferences was fast hitting rock bottom and this rep who had the nasty departure with Tim was absolutely correct when he said Tim was desperate for money.

    Tim Darnell couldn't have paid the matrix commissions even if he wanted to. Advantage Conferences was already drowning in red. The Better Business Bureau had emptied the account leaving only $500.00 dollars in May 2007. Tim sold his car he had paid cash for two years earlier to fund the conference and conned an 80 year old rep, Phil Orr into loaning him $30,000.00. Tim wrote that off in the Advantage Conferences bankruptcy two years later. This is when the huge mass exodus was underway. By January 2008 there were only 100 reps remaining Tim admitted under oath and that field shrank quickly as even Jack Weinzierl threw in the towel.

    This rep points out that Tim's packed calls were nothing more than a pack of lies! He also gave Tim a warning about how serious people were about taking him out. He noted that he had finally read Scam and told Tim that he had "some serious enemies that were ready to get you at all cost." He notes how Tim has lied, cheated and deceived.

    Judy Sterling told me there were no sales at all in May 2007 and other months the sales could have been counted on the fingers of one hand. There was virtually nothing coming in to the home office. Not even Jack was making $30,000.00 a month. He said in 2008 he had made over $800,000.00, but in January 2007 his press release bragged of "Jack has earned in excess of $762,245.50 with Advantage Conferences as an Independent Representative." So the following e-mail suggesting it was for folks" who also can genuinely picture their income at a minimum of $30,000.00 per month or higher with AC" is a lie-filled, deceptive piece of trash. Jack and Tim have always claimed to know everything the other knows and be transparent. Jack wasn't making money in 2007, but with his 1.23 million dollar mansion hanging in the balance he was quite willing to tell outright lies and grossly exaggerate to bring in a check. The fact he would ruin folks financially and could end people on the street and hungry didn't bother that sick creep one bit. He and Tim are dangerous and beyond desperate!!!

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    From: TeamAdvantageConferences@yahoogroups.com [mailto:TeamAdvantageConferences@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jack Weinzierl
    Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 11:36 PM
    To: TeamAdvantageConferences@yahoogroups.com
    Cc: timd@advantageconferences.com
    Subject: [TeamAC] One of my top 10 candidates


    Here is the 2nd candidate that has responding to my 10 top candidate email that Tim shared with us. Thanks Tim. Yes, she is on my list and I will be believing for supernatural favor for her finances. Have a blessed weekend and see you on Monday's TGIM call at 9 am central.


    Dear Mr. Jack Weinzierl:

    Hi, my name is Ruby "Denise" Ruiz. Please, just call me "Denise." I am interested in becoming a partner with your company. I reside here in Norcross, Georgia. I am a single mom; I have two sons, Devin and Miguel. Currently, I am employed as an Instructional Lead Teacher for the Georgia Department of Juvenile Justice; I serve as the head-master teacher in a school that is located in side a Juvenile Detention Center, and I render special education services to students with disabilities who have been incarcerated for various crimes. God has blessed me to be the light through the Holy Ghost Spirit of God to serve kids who are incarcerated in an obscure place, a jail for juvenile delinquents. I am thankful to God for all He has blessed me with and predestined me to do.

    Mr. Weinzerl, I have prayed and asked God to lead and guide me in the right direction relative to a Christian work-at-home business that can help me financially overcome debt, lack, and financial insufficiency; and God has led me to your company via an internet search. I write this letter to you requesting to be considered to be one of your Top-10 Candidates for an AC Rep-ship in your business.

    Mr. Weinzerl, I love God, and all I aim to do is to please Him as He is the One Who created me. I serve God personally via an intimate relationship with King Jesus Christ, and I labor in His Vineyard at my local church as a youth leader, whereby I teach the Adolescent Bible Class (ages 12-17) at my church. In 2004, I developed a passion for service, and I had prayed and asked God to permit me to serve Him (someway-somehow); well, He answered my prayer and He rewarded me by permitting me to serve Him as the Adolescent Bible Teacher at my church, Ebenezer Pentecostal Church, here in Norcross, Georgia. I am thankful to be a Daughter of God, you know? He has changed my life in amazing ways.

    Nevertheless, as a single mom, I am struggling financially. I am prayerful to God to begin a home business that is founded upon Biblical Principles, and I desire to continue to honor God via the first fruits of all that I receive into my household (financially). Mr. Weinzerl, truly I desire to live the scriptures relative to all that the Word of God says, in every way -- and one of these ways is financially. Here, I am willing to do whatever God leads me to do to acquire financial prosperity. Currently, I do contribute to the Tithes and Offerings Program at my church. I give ten percent of my gross income and other financial offerings to my local church at Ebenezer Pentecostal Church. I have prayed, fasted, and walked in faith that God will lead me by providing me with the knowledge I need to acquire and retain wealth so that I may bless the House of the Lord financially. It's amazing, but one day three years ago (when I was beginning my walk with Christ Jesus), I was in church worshipping God and asking Him to help me financially, and He said to me, "Denise, if you take care of My House, I will take care of your house." From that day forward, I have given my tithes and offerings to the Lord, and He has blessed me by meeting my needs. Additionally, I desire to acquire and retain wealth so that I may.leave a financial legacy for my two sons, Devin and Miguel. This is why I believe that God has led me to your company.

    Mr. Weinzerl, by the Grace of God, I am a hard-worker. God has blessed me with great communication skills, writing skills, interpersonal skills, and technical skills. Additionally, I am a team-player, and I am forever open to exploring new horizons and trying new things to beget goals and objectives. Truly, Mr. Weinzerl, God has been good to me. Presently, my prayer is that God will permit a person (like yourself) who truly loves God with all of their heart, all of their mind and soul, to cross my path and mentor me relative to Biblical Principles concerning finances, and provide to me the knowledge I need to acquire and retain financial prosperity. I am praying that God bless me through you by permitting you to assist me with beginning a business that is founded upon Biblical Principles to bring in extra income into my home as a single mom so that I may acquire the prosperity that God has predestined for me according to His Holy Word. Here, I know that God would not adorn me with the aforementioned skills for nothing. Here, I proclaim this Biblical Truth: that "all good gifts come from God." Therefore, it is my hope that you and your company partners are the "good gift" sent from God to help me acquire the knowledge, skills, and technical expertise I need to prosper financially and to leave a legacy for my two sons.

    Therefore, in response to your request, I write this letter to you requesting to be considered to be one of your Top-10 Candidates for an AC Rep-ship in your business. Again, I am thankful to have this opportunity.

    Could you please e-mail me at RubyRuiz@ to inform me regarding whether or not I am one of your Top-10 Candidates for an AC Rep-ship in your business?

    Thank you tremendously Mr. Weinzierl, and God bless you infinitely.

    In King Jesus' Name,


    Ruby "Denise" Ruiz
    Norcross, Georgia

    ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Weinzierl" <jack@themarketleaders.com>
    To: "Ruby"
    Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 7:32 AM
    Subject: Ruby, Top 10 Candidates for My Business



    > Ruby,
    >
    > This weekend I will be determining who the "Top Ten" Candidates for an AC Rep-ship in my business are. Each of the Candidates on this list will receive privileged information regarding the rapid growth at AC that all the other Candidates will not. You can move into my "Top 10" List by replying back with a short message describing "why" you should be considered for this list. I'm looking for people who have a servant's heart and tenacity, and who also can genuinely picture their income at a minimum of $30,000.00 per month or higher with AC. You must consider yourself as a genuine Candidate for leadership and success at Advantage Conferences in order to qualify for this list.
    >
    > If these statements are true about you, please reply with your short e-mail message no later than Monday, October 15 in order to be considered for this elite group. Candidates will go on and off this list rather quickly, so Ruby, I encourage you to act decisively.
    >
    > Blessings,
    >
    > Jack Weinzierl
    > Advantage Conferences


    __._,_.___


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    Advantage Conferences
    Advantage Conferences is a wealth-building company that
    believes in traditional Christian values and provides extensive
    mentoring. Learn how you can make a sizable income with this
    unique, fully automated business opportunity.

    ANYONE that is coachable and trainable and consistently works our home based business 5-10 hours per week will succeed. When you join us, you'll do no personal selling, telling, convincing or persuading. Our unique system does it all for you. You can work whenever you want, day or night.
    Training and mentoring by self-made millionaires.
    You'll be trained by our group of dedicated individuals that have already achieved multiple six figure incomes. You will be guided every step of the way! You'll be in business "for yourself" but never "by yourself".
    Advantage Conferences is a professional, educational products marketing organization. The Company is a privately owned LLC, founded and chartered in June, 2003 by Tim Darnell, President. Its purpose is to distribute positive personal development, inspirational, motivational, and instructional materials into the marketplace with the express intent of improving customer's lives.
    If you want to be a millionaire,
    you must "think" like a millionaire.
    Advantage Conferences Millionaire Mindset Conference carefully selects multi-millionaire mentors from a variety of different backgrounds and industries who donate their valuable time to tell their stories, teach their deepest beliefs, and offer their most pertinent advice. The conference takes place in an intimate, interactive classroom setting where a handful of elite MMC Attendees are "tuned in" to this unique, life-changing education.
    "We've never seen a (network marketing) company built on a solid Christian foundation that attracted team members that exude the integrity, excellence and entrepreneurial spirit that the organization is committed to," said James McHugh - Pro Rep IV. "We view Advantage Conferences as an oasis of integrity, for those who are tired of the typical get-rich-quick hype and empty promises that are so prevalent in today's online business environment. And where else can you partner with MBA's, presidents, chairmen, coaches, successful entrepreneurs and advisors who have a vested interest in your success?" he continued.
    Advantage Conferences products are only available through independent Advantage Conferences representatives.
    available for common people like you and me.

    Review the Simple 3 Step System to Find Out How
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    Click on the 3 Step Business Overview button above and fill out the form on the bottom of the page you are taken to.

    Take your time and review the simple 3 step process which will reveal the life-changing keys to wealth.You will not be eligible to talk to a representative until you have completed this simple process.

    A message from Tim Darnell,
    founder of Advantage Conferences...
    Imagine . . .
    Tomorrow morning seeing a Federal Express truck pulling up to your door. The driver hurries to your doorstep, rings your doorbell and hands you a Fed Ex letter containing a crisp $7,000.00 Check with my signature on it.
    We often call the Federal Express vehicle, “The Happy Truck”, and I think you can see why. Imagine being taught a system designed for you to experience the thrill of having the Happy Truck pull up to your house or apartment OVER and OVER AGAIN delivering $7,000 checks on a regular basis!
    Introducing . . .
    The $7,000 in YOUR Bank Account
    Over and Over Again Strategy
    Could that kind of income change things around your house?

    Hey, the first time that check comes in, you will be hooked. You’ll never be able to look seriously at another way of making income. Once you truly understand the Millionaire Mindset Income Producing System, everything else will look boring, too difficult, or just not profitable enough!
    You may have made that kind of cash before. You may do it all the time. But, whether you do or not, if you would like to have a dynamic, automated method that is 100% legal, legitimate, ethical and most importantly, effective at bringing strong cash flow in on a consistent regular basis, then you will want to understand and implement our simple process known as the Millionaire Mindset Income Producing System!
    This System has been specifically designed to make you SERIOUS MONEY – ethically, legally, professionally and absolutely uniquely!

    Four Simple Essentials In Place for You
    1. The Life Changing, Highly Unique Wealth Education Product that pays a whopping $7,000 Commission on every transaction! 2. Powerhouse Company that has created and orchestrates all aspects of the Millionaire Mindset Conference Income Producing System™ and is willing to pay you a higher commission on each transaction (Reverse Margin) than received by the Company. In other words, your commission is higher than the wholesale amount taken in by the Company! 3. Our exclusive, cutting edge, trademarked Marketing Method, called the Millionaire Mindset Conference Income Producing System that locates thousands of highly interested candidates for you inexpensively and quickly - those of like mind and purpose – while delivering EVERYTHING, all the information they need to know without you having to say a word to a single person! 4. Transactions Finalized with your eager candidates by the professionals at Advantage Conferences FOR YOU!
    You Provide
    A. Absolute Belief in Yourself. Doubters, Skeptics, Low Self-Image individuals need not apply. You must have a very positive attitude and high ethical standards. B. Teachability – Your Commitment to Follow Simple Instructions, be coachable and trainable and not reinvent the wheel. C. Resourcefulness and Desire to get your business started quickly. D. Self Motivation with the ability to work consistently without a boss looking over your shoulder. E. Positive Expectancy - You must be expecting to make at least $100,000 or more your first year. If I can show you a simple and easy method for creating significant cash flow ($7,000 a month, a week, and eventually every few days and more), could you get excited about that kind of income and what it could do for your life?
    How many times would you like to have that happen for you?
    I would assume you would like to see those kinds of checks as often as possible!
    Your Personal Financial Situation is the One that Really Matters!
    Even if you were a multi-millionaire, I think you would agree that $7,000 checks arriving at your doorstep on an ongoing basis, would be exciting for your personal economic situation. Your wife or your husband – heck, your entire family - would all think you were a genius wouldn’t they?
    But when the Happy Truck begins visiting your house over and over again, your friends and neighbors are going to want to know what you are doing and how they can start getting the same results!
    How Most People React to Genuine Opportunity
    Most people have a rush of excitement when they think about the possibility of having $7,000 checks in their name come to their house. BUT due to Negative Programming that many people experience from an early age, they quickly dismiss a totally legitimate concept and opportunity as “too good to be true”.
    That assessment would, unfortunately, be a MAJOR MISTAKE. It would be absolutely wrong! And the worst part of making that mistake would be the loss of a Life-Changing Income Stream in your own financial life!
    And so I urge you to take the time to review Advantage Conference’s Millionaire Mindset Income Producing System with a fine tooth comb. Having been an entrepreneur for the past twenty years, I can tell you, without question that this particular concept is the VERY BEST the market place has ever witnessed!

    What you will NOT be doing
    * You will not be making any presentations
    * You will do not selling, telling, explaining or persuading
    * Work your buns off for $200 / month or less
    * Envelope stuffing
    * Medical billing
    * A pyramid or 'airplane' money game
    * You will not be doing home parties
    * You will not be stocking or shipping products
    * You will not be required to make monthly purchases
    * You will not constantly attend hotel meetings
    * Remember, this is not MLM so you're not going to
    be spending your time drawing circles on the back
    of napkins or trying to convince people this is
    is something they should look at.
    What this is:
    * Simple and Professional
    * Genuine Potential for Immediate and Long-term
    Cash Flow

    * No Cold Calling! You talk to nobody until they are
    fully informed and ready to get started

    * Seamless Marketing Process reaches tens of
    thousands from the comfort of your home.
    You will be marketing as effectively as a Fortune
    500 Company!



    My wife and I have been helping people for years. I am a social worker who helps people with severe mental illness. My wonderful wife Aura is a registered nurse who works in a community mental health center in a poor area of Cleveland Ohio.

    Recently we discovered the Advantage Conferences income opportunity and working it part time we made $14.000 our first month. Our income has steadily increased since then.

    We have found another way to help people by working with individuals who have a desire to be financially free. We have discovered how ordinary people can transforms their personal and financial goals into reality.
    James & Aura
    All lies. He made just over $20,000.00 total according to the BBB suit. He had serial scammer Jack Weinzierl as his upline and deal closer, so he did get a few $7,000.00 checks. Of course having spent $10,000.00 for the conferences alone and then thousands more on business expenses he barely broke even. He complained bitterly about how little he had made in that scam.

    He got sued by his downline and knowing they had lied to get sales, he wisely settled out fairly with his downline. He didn't want to get the lovely internet reputation that Weinzierl and Darnell have. When his downline that later sued him became the start witness for the BBB he exited stage left post haste!

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    Professional, Strong Leadership, Teamwork and Support are just a few ways to accurately describe the Advantage Conferences business opportunity. I’ve only been with the company a few months, and I am astonished at the reflection of integrity and support this wonderful company offers anyone with the drive and determination to increase the quality of their life.

    Working for a major lead generation company for home business enthusiast’s world wide, I have spent hundreds of hours researching home based businesses and I have had thousands of conversations with home business entrepreneurs. I have never, ever come across an opportunity that offers as solid a platform and support system to create wealth like Advantage Conferences.

    Nothing comes close!
    There are no smoke and mirrors and all the right stuff. I encourage you to do your due diligence and review all three steps and learn how this wonderful Christian business opportunity can and will bless you and your family.
    Doug VanDeventer
    Florida
    Jack Weinzierl and the rep James above brought this poor dear boy in and he was forced to upgrade on his credit card. He paid the full $10,000.00 and spent much more promoting this obvious scam. Several months after he wrote this he was sitting alone at Christmas broke, crying and without electricity and money for food. That was the last anyone heard from him. Several have tried to find him, but to no avail.

    Advantage Conferences and the scammers promoting it left a trail of paupers in their wake. The stories of devastation are heart breaking. Jack Weinzierl and Tim Darnell must be held accountable and this spreading of the truth must never stop. God wants this told to protect his children. I don't want to see any more people ruined financially and I can't bear the thought of burying another victim of MLM.

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    Re: Tim Darnell / Jack Weinzierl / Advantage Conferences Earnings Representations

    Jack Weinzierl is Currently Reviewing 3,278 Candidates for Their Advantage Conferences Team of Christian Entrepreneurs

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    Jack Weinzierl has several years of experience as a top earner in the network marketing industry, and has built international marketing organizations numbering in the thousands.

    Over the past four years, Jack has developed and implemented training and support, strategic business development plans, and numerous successful marketing campaigns for several network marketing companies.

    “We’ve never seen a (network marketing) company built on a solid Christian foundation that attracted team members that exude the integrity, excellence and entrepreneurial spirit that our organization is committed to,” said Jack Weinzierl. “We view Advantage Conferences as an oasis of integrity, for those who are tired of the typical get-rich-quick hype and empty promises that are so prevalent in today’s online business environment. And where else can you partner with MBA’s, presidents, chairmen, coaches, successful entrepreneurs and advisors who have a vested interest in your success?,” he continued.

    Jack was able to earn $ 28,000 with his first full month with Advantage Conferences.

    About Advantage Conferences:

    Advantage Conferences is a professional, educational products marketing organization. The Company is a privately owned LLC, founded and chartered in June, 2003 by Tim Darnell, President. Its purpose is to distribute positive personal development, inspirational, motivational, and instructional materials into the marketplace with the express intent of improving customer’s lives.

    If you want to be a millionaire, you must “think” like a millionaire. Advantage Conferences Millionaire Mindset Conference carefully selects multi-millionaire mentors from a variety of different backgrounds and industries who donate their valuable time to tell their stories, teach their deepest beliefs, and offer their most pertinent advice. The conference takes place in an intimate, interactive classroom setting where a handful of elite MMC Attendees are “tuned in” to this unique, life-changing education.

    Advantage Conferences products are only available through independent Advantage Conferences representatives.

    Other information concerning the Company, its product line and its trademarked marketing opportunity can be found on the website at Oneoasis.com - Oneoasis and Metro Manila.

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    I had to rescue this from the cache. Jack is desperately trying to make his past escapdes in scamming disappear. What a pack of lies. Jack was not reviewing and choosing candidates. He spent $8,000.00 in February 2005, his first month, advertising this scam. He had a number of hits on his website, but was not getting applications. That would mean he rejected 99% of the candidates. He had only a handful under him at that point.

    It was a veritable oasis of misrepresentations that created legions of paupers!

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    Re: Tim Darnell / Jack Weinzierl / Advantage Conferences Earnings Representations

    Then we get this:
    Press Release:

    Advantage Conferences, LLC and Jack Weinzierl, a Christian entrepreneur joined forces 13 months ago and are pleased to report personal commissions earned total $544,000 for the 13 months ending today.



    "We've never seen a (network marketing) company built on a solid Christian foundation that attracts team members that exemplify the integrity, excellence and entrepreneurial spirit that our organization is committed to," said Jack Weinzierl. "We view Advantage Conferences as an oasis of integrity, for those who are tired of the typical get-rich-quick hype and empty promises that are so prevalent in today's online business environment. And where else can you partner with MBA's, presidents, chairmen, coaches, successful entrepreneurs and advisors who have a vested interest in your success?," he continued.

    "We are focused on bringing 100 additional Christian entrepreneurs to the next Millionaire Mindset Conference in Dallas, TX. We are searching for those individuals who are ready to learn and grow – someone who can appreciate the value of the knowledge and advice that highly successful Christian millionaires and mentors transfer into the lives of those who want to emulate their sustained productivity and giving for God’s Kingdom," said Jack.

    You can learn more at: http://OneOasis.com

    About Advantage Conferences:
    Advantage Conferences is a Christ-centered educational products marketing organization. The Company is a privately owned LLC, founded and chartered in June, 2003 by Tim Darnell, President. Its purpose is to distribute positive personal development, inspirational, motivational, and instructional materials into the marketplace with the express intent of improving customer's lives.

    If you want to be a millionaire, you must "think" like a millionaire. Advantage Conferences Millionaire Mindset Conference carefully selects Christian multi-millionaire mentors from a variety of different backgrounds and industries who donate their valuable time to tell their stories, teach their deepest beliefs, and offer their most pertinent advice. The conference takes place in an intimate, interactive classroom setting where MMC Attendees are "tuned in" to this unique, life-changing education. Most recent conferences were in Orlando, FL and Dallas, TX.

    Advantage Conferences products are only available through independent Advantage Conferences representatives.
    Flower Mound, TX (PRWeb) January 18, 2007 -- Jack Weinzierl, President and Founder of OneOasis.com from Flower Mound, Texas, is seeking Entrepreneurs for his expanding International Advantage Conferences marketplace ministry. Jack launched his Advantage Conferences marketplace ministry two years ago after being the president and owner of a medical device company and a network marketing firm. Jack has earned in excess of $762,245.50 with Advantage Conferences as an Independent Representative.

    "What is most important is that you believe in and are passionate about the product you're representing. I decided to partner with Advantage Conferences 2 years ago, as the business focused on Christian entrepreneurial mentoring, which is important," he continued. Jack had evaluated over 110 network marketing companies before deciding to partner with Advantage Conferences. "I really needed a business that was based on a strong biblical foundation instead of the new age content being taught in many network marketing companies," stated Jack.

    What is this product that Jack is so passionate about? Ongoing Christian Entrepreneurial Mentoring.

    Solomon states in Proverbs, "He who gets wisdom loves his own soul; he who cherishes understanding prospers." He also says, "Plans fail for lack of counsel, but with many advisers they succeed". Those two verses are powerful, yet only a small example of wisdom found in the Word of God - teaching that is more relevant today than ever. Advantage Conferences is a dynamic marketplace ministry that provides ongoing Christ-centered Mentoring for entrepreneurs and business owners, as well as training for corporate employees.

    Weekly Tele-Mentoring calls, powerful recorded audio and DVD packages, and profound Seminars and Conferences effectively help individuals optimize their business and personal lives. The trainings, conducted by Advantage Conferences Founder and Author, Tim Darnell, along with dozens of highly successful and professional Christian Millionaires is rock-solid mentoring that is providing life-changing impact for hundreds of Advantage Conferences clients on an ongoing basis.

    "But it isn't just having a great product that matters," he said. "You've got to be committed to it as a business. This network marketing business is not a get-rich-quick scheme. I tell people that every chance I get. This is a building process; it is a 5 to10 year plan, and if you're willing to put some time and effort into it, you can do great."

    But Jack Weinzierl conducts his business a little differently than most network marketers.

    "I'm really not a salesman. I am terrible at closing. I just don't do it. I've been in the business long enough to learn almost everything you shouldn't do, so when I'm talking to someone about getting into the business, I really try to scare them out of it. And a few people decide it isn't for them. But if someone is considering it, I'll tell them to think about it for a few days. Pray about it with their spouse. It can be a very lucrative business opportunity. But anything worth doing is worth prayerful consideration."

    Jack also says his faith plays an important role in his business dealings.

    "It used to be that people were hesitant to let their faith come to the forefront of their business," he said. "But really, I think it's ridiculous to separate one's faith from their business. We are walking our talk every day in our Christ-centered Advantage Conferences business and life."

    About Advantage Conferences:

    Advantage Conferences, based in Allen, Texas, is focused on providing Ongoing Mindset Mentoring for business professionals and entrepreneurs. Dynamic mentoring is delivered through a variety of excellent training products and is appropriate for all enterprising people and business owners. Powerful and stimulating, Advantage Conferences is the Company and Product that is effectively impacting lives world-wide.

    To talk to Jack about his Christ-centered Advantage Conferences business mentoring products and the business opportunity, visit OneOasis.com or Jack's Advantage Conferences Marketplace Ministry Blog.

    Press Contact: Jack Weinzierl
    Company Name: OneOasis.com
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    Phone: 817-205-9513
    Website: advantage-conferences-training.com
    Press Release Source: EMediaWire
    Jack suggesting Tim Darnell is a highly successful entrepreneur is so far beyond ridiculous. All Star Entrepreneur was bankrupted in 2004 by debts mostly accrued under Tim's watch as president. He was carrying 200,000.00 in credit card debt in 2005. He had sued the Dallas Better Business Bureau and that suit was going straight down the commode. A modicum of success to be sure Just read what Timmy proclaims in his worthless free give away book, Slay Your Giant:

    Tim Darnell and Catherine / Cathy Starnater Darnell both sent to IRS Hell

    Jack joined in February 2005. By March 2006 he had earned $544,000.00. 10 months later in January 2007 he had only earned $762,245.50 total which translates into $218,245.50 for those ten months. In late 2008 he mumbled about approaching 1 million and just over $800,000.00. The latter figure is the truth.

    Jack spent $8,000.00 in advertising his first month and then around $6,000.00 a month for the next year. He out earned everyone exponentially. 98% of the reps lost money. Many of them thousands and thousands of dollars. However, Jack's earnings plummeted as precipitously as they had climbed as the news of the BBB triumphing in court came out and Craig Malisow's brilliant article publicized the dirt on this pyramid scheme. His earnings were plummeting to nothing, but being the scamming goon he is milked the deal to squeeze more of those $7,000.00 checks out of everyone he could. The fact the 98% of victims of this deal in many cases suffered horrifically due to his deceit didn't bother him. Folks went hungry, lost homes, drown in credit card debt, and a rep attempted suicide and another succeeded. But that is all in a days scamming for Weinzierl and Darnell.

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    Re: Tim Darnell / Jack Weinzierl / Advantage Conferences Earnings Representations

    MLM cult brainwashing bull$hit:
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    Mindset Fundamentals for the Christian Entrepreneur

    Monday, January 8, 2007 at 03:17PM
    by Tim Darnell, President and Founder of Advantage Conferences
    My entrepreneurial journey is guided by my personal relationship with Jesus Christ and God’s Word in Scripture. There are fundamental premises that I have discovered along the way that are profound, foundational truths for Christian business people. What I am about to share with you are some of the main components of my thinking that I know will have a tremendously rewarding impact on your business and life.
    MP – Most people
    Champions – success minded Christian winners who have “set out” on their entrepreneurial journey.
    1. Christian Champions define themselves by their relationship to Christ and clearly defined Godly principles and ideals, and are directed by their resolve to improve the world. They are inner directed rather than circumstances directed. They are vision directed rather than visually directed. They are positive and hopefully expectant even amidst seasons of roaming in the desert. They operate according to a higher standard and higher goals than MPs do. They don’t choose their actions based on what is expedient, but rather on what is Godly and right. They see the big picture for the long term; and their destiny as intertwined with their contribution to society and God’s direction for their life.
    2. Money is good, not evil. There is a mostly unspoken, but truly ridiculous widespread societal notion held by MPs that wealth is evil, money is dirty, and wealthy people are bad. None of these generally held, subconscious ideas are true. On the contrary, money is the resource that builds and sustains orphanages, churches, charities, hospitals, missionary trips, and all sorts of good and important institutions. The more we produce, the more we are able to fund worthwhile projects, build institutions that help mankind, and service needs throughout our communities and the world. When needs arise and we have proactively created increasingly larger access to resources, the more problems we can solve and the more needs we can help fill.
    Money is only evil when it is pursued for greedy purposes. When it is used for God’s kingdom, it is an important “cog” in establishing His purposes.
    3. When we change our thinking, we change our results. You can change your thinking for better results. The fact is, you can be much wealthier within a relatively short period of time. This is a simple premise, but a notion that MPs reject. The fact is, you don’t have to continue your life at the same income level you’ve been stuck at over the last five or ten years. It is your thinking that has you locked in, and has kept you from amplifying your current income by double, triple, ten times or even more. No program, no DVD collection, no real estate book – nothing I can say or teach you will help you until you can positively embrace the notion that you deserve to be and can be wealthier for the sake of your family and God’s kingdom. That is the first step in achieving a more powerful financial status – believing you can, should, and will reach a greater level of income.
    4. We have an obligation to produce at a higher level, make more money, and continually become more resourceful. Profit is not a dirty word. It is a noble result of offering value to the marketplace. People tend to be stuck in middle class because they model their lives based on what they see everybody else doing. But being middle class is being “other” directed. It is born of wanting to fit in and be accepted. It doesn’t match up with the potential God gives you. MPs never think long and hard about what type of income and lifestyle they should lead. They simply allow their income to happen based on what job they can find or based on what everybody else is making. The latter is not a good mark to strive for because most people are broke.
    “Barely getting by” is not acceptable. Mediocrity is anathema. Taking care of our families and being able to ‘stand in the gap’ when others are suffering or in need is the responsible way to live. Money is simply a universally accepted resource that “gets the job done”. Not having money is a condition that can be endured with joy; but poverty or mediocrity is not a condition that is at all to be desired or vaunted as noble.
    5. We have the fiduciary obligation to risk at higher levels and thereby deal in larger amounts of money. If we don’t risk, we will never achieve anything other than the ordinary. Faith allows us to risk. Faith replaces the trepidation that accompanies risk. We must learn to operate by faith instead of fear. A “fear” perspective keeps us operating in terms of “minimums”, rather than at “optimum” levels. Making faith based as opposed to fear based decisions, allows us to accomplish extraordinary good for society.
    6. Your business WILL succeed over the long haul. Most people don’t attempt great things for fear of failure. If MPs really thought they would have a more fulfilling life and that their attempt at a business truly would work, they would start their own business and commit to their entrepreneurial journey. The rewards of independence in terms of time, finances, worship, travel, and giving are much more likely to happen as the owner of a business. Successful people understand that business does work given consistent effort for sustained periods of time and that though that effort will often stretch you, it will also immeasurably reward you.
    7. Failure is an ongoing part of every success. Champion Entrepreneurs never pull back or hesitate based on the fear of failure. They know that nothing worthwhile is accomplished without multiple failures. The difference for Christian champions versus MPs is the willingness to move forward in spite of obstacles, failures, and difficulties. In fact, if you are not experiencing some sort of obstacles and failure every day, you’re not building a business – you are not committed to a successful endeavor. Failures are the expected, yet brief delays that absolutely MUST occur in the progression of achieving the extraordinary.
    8. Accomplishment requires Continuous Giving on the part of the Christian entrepreneur - from the beginning and for the duration. Champions never stop giving. They never begrudge having to give and contribute. In fact, Christian winners are intent on being successful so that they can give more!
    A word that winners do not avoid, but rather embrace, is the word, “pay”. We are not afraid to pay. That includes “paying the price”, “paying more” and “paying often”. MP’s are highly reluctant to pay, and many avoid “paying” at all costs. A great example of this mentality is evidenced at restaurants, where champions expect to pay the bill where MPs avoid the bill. Entrepreneurs request that the waiter/waitress bring the check to them prior to ordering. MPs hope someone else will take responsibility for the check. They simply avoid the responsibility.
    9. Business should not be attempted by people who are desperate for money or who are afraid of money. So often, we see people who really need money, but will never have any consequential amount because they are subconsciously afraid of money. The fear of money will keep money at a distance. Fear of paying, as mentioned in point 8 above, is the twin sister to fear of money. Negativity regarding money as discussed in point number 2 sets up an invisible chasm that separates MPs from money. The problem with fearing money and being desperate for money is that people can sense both of these conditions a mile away, and will not follow that person’s attempt to influence, attract, or lead.
    10. Money is not you. People who trade hours for dollars spend a lifetime of their waking hours devoted to making money and wrongfully become overly attached to it. They subconsciously become unable to separate the sacrifice and hours invested in achieving their paycheck (money) from themselves. This sets up reluctance to part with the money they have – a condition I fondly call, financial constipation. MPs associate their money with their effort, time, commitment and pain, into which they’ve put so much personal investment that they aren’t willing to let it go. Entrepreneurs understand that money has nothing to do with their self. Money is an extraneous tool to use, not a part of them. One must learn to willingly let go of money for it to be effective. You must learn to distinguish money as separate it from yourself.
    11. Money must circulate. Money must first go out and then come in – a “give and take revolution”. The frequency of the circulation (number of revolutions) increases wealth for the Christian entrepreneur. Christian entrepreneurs open doors for their own business by constantly and increasingly circulating money in other businesses (vendors), employees, and the Church.
    12. Being more financially productive enables the Christian entrepreneur to be LESS attached to money. Money is a terrible master; and it tends to be more of a master when there is less of it. Being a successful business owner with established cash flow and investments enables you to think less about money and focus more on important areas of life – serving God, worship, family, recreation, travel, athletics, hobbies, etc.
    13. Success is accomplished in God’s timing. Success is catalyzed by risk, achieved through tenacity, and sustained through vigilance. Success will be attained to the degree that the Christian entrepreneur faithfully follows and relies upon God and trusts without reservation in 1. God’s guiding hand; 2. his/her own talents, will, and ability; and 3. the viability of the product and enterprise. The events, the rewards, the progression of their business – the entire timing of our lives is in God’s hands. The Christian entrepreneur must never bemoan results, but rather push forward in joy, assuredness, and positive expectancy knowing the results will occur.
    14. Christian Entrepreneurs embrace abundance and reject scarcity. Knowing that Christ came so that we would live more abundantly, we also know that we can do all things through Him who strengthens us. Scarcity is an un-Godly concept. It is a rejection of God’s kingdom, His promises, His Word, and His reality. Champions know that there is enough to go around for all and thereby don’t participate in or see business as a “dog-eat-dog” competition. In fact, the Champion will go out of his/her way to help everybody, even his/her competitors. Always remember, when you know the Creator of the universe, you become convinced and aware of God’s abundance - that there is plenty to go around for everyone!
    15. Champions refuse to shrink back. They don’t pass the buck of responsibility on to others. They don’t hesitate due to fear, d-o-u-b-t, or worry. They relish responsibility and simply search for the inevitable solutions that are inherent in every problem and difficulty. They don’t play “small ball”, but constantly move forward, building for the bigger arena, the bigger game, and the solid Win / Win for everyone.
    16. God owns the silver and gold. It’s all His. He created it. Money and wealth are ours to briefly “handle”, not possess. What we do with our talents and the money we come in contact with is a test of our acknowledgement of His “ownership” and our “rental”. When we figure this proper relationship out, we realize that the popular notion of “tithing” is a very limited way to treat the wealth we are so graciously and mercifully given. We will only have money for a brief time and we can’t take it with us. It is not to be treated in a cavalier way. It is precious, but not because we can buy stuff for ourselves or that currency has any value on its own. No, it is precious because we can use it mightily for Him. Tithing should be the lowest consideration. When we seek first the kingdom of God (Matthew 6:33), we know, know, know, know – that we will be taken care of totally, and therefore have no trepidation in giving what we don’t really own to worthwhile, Godly projects.
    1. There is nothing Godly and right about ripping off fellow Christians. 98% losing money at the hands of Weinzierl and Darnell is completely Satanic! I know the story of the rep that attempted suicide and ended up in the hospital. I know about the retired senoir citizen who went hungry and still struggles to hang on to her home and keep something on the table. My family spent thousands helping Judy Sterling and had the horrific task of burying our dear friend. I communicated with many more who were financially devastated by Advantage Conferences and its scamming weasels Weinzierl and Darnell. I know far more than I can bear to deal with.

    2. As Weinzierl and Darnell continued to defraud folks in scam after scam for years we can see the only motive was greed.

    3. No one can simply think their way to doubling tripling or increasing their income tenfold. It does take education, training, experience, hard work, and so much more than a cult brainwashing session with two catastrophic failures and known liars.

    4. Those scammers are so wrong to vilify noble everyday people. Everyone who is working hard and doing their best to take care of their family should be very proud and if they need more help to make ends meet not be afraid to ask.

    5. God does not want people to take undue risk. Jack put the $10,000.00 conference and $8,000.00 in advertising on his credit card. Many others did equally foolish things to line Jack's pockets. Homes were lost, retirement funds and college funds were blown, insurmountable credit card debt was racked up, bankruptcies were filed, one rep attempted suicide and another succeeded. That is where faith in Weinzierl's and Darnell's scam got people.

    6. One's business would not succeed in the long haul. 98% lost money and many of them host thousands and thousands. They tried to blame Mike Brommell, the BBB, me and anyone else who spoke the truth. But conference, pyramid scheme, Global Prosperity, which Tim repped for and learned tax evasion from went down the tubes and landed folks in federal prison. Liberty League, which Darnell helped found, was accused of tricking consumers and the vast majority of reps are losing money in that bum deal. Then Darnell was involved in yet another conference scam, Tru Dynamics, which got him sued and resulted in his non-citizen Affidavit to weasel out of that legitimate lawsuit is defunct. Then Tim founded and acted as president for All Star Entrepreneur which like Advantage Conferences, a nearly identical pyramid scheme, imploded into chapter 7 bankruptcy. Weinzierl and Darnell knew going in they were pushing a scam, but they were out for a quick buck.

    7. Failure is the norm for Tim Darnell and his sidekick Jack Weinzierl. The tragedy is that so many good people go down with them.

    8. Tim Darnell is no champion. He invited Judy Sterling to lunch. Conned her into selling her house to fund her Advantage Conferences business and then talked her into giving him 10% of the equity out of the home when it sold, $4,300.00 for his bogus charity. He was no champion, gentleman or Christian. He made her pick up the tab as well! Don't believe me? Read Slay your Giant and part of that tragic story is right in their in his own words.

    9. Weinzierl and Darnell don't want you to fear giving your money to them!

    10. The only part of separating people from their money The scammers, Darnell and Weinzierl, want folks understand is that folks should be giving their hard earned money to them.

    11. Yes, circulate the money right through Darnell's and Weinzierl's hands and it will never flow back you way again!

    12. Darnell knows nothing about an established cash flow. Just read his Slay Your Giant.

    13. That is really great to blame God when people are being destroyed financially by your scam, Darnell and Weinzierl.

    14. The prosperity gospel is the words of scamming liars twisting His word to empty folks pockets!

    15. Champions have common sense and do an honest days work. That would be a real switch for Darnell and Weinzierl.

    16. Darnell and Weinzierl are only generous if they think it will help them bilk more money out of their victims. Once the gravy train has ended they won't give their victims the time of day. Look at the man who tried to take his own life. Jack admitted in his deposition he never contacted that man again. Jack didn't give a damn what happened to that man he ruined as that man no longer had money to throw at him and was too honest and had too much integrity to bring anyone else into Advantage Conferences. The reps I communicated with were all so relieved they didn't victimize someone else, meaning they were not able to sell a spot in the pyramid. At least they didn't have that to deal with that on top of losing thousands of dollars themselves pushing this flop of scam.

    Obviously, as this scam followed all the rest into MLM scam history, the MLM cult brainwashing wasn't too effective!

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    Scammer Jack posted gross misrepresentations all the way along:

    Strategist Millionaire.pdf

    Not even scammer boy himself managed to hit 1 million in commissions. To suggest Tim Darnell is highly successful is such a bold-faced lie. And, what other reps making tens of thousands a month??? Only two others besides Jack exceeded $100,000.00 total. They were long gone by early 2007 as they saw the writing on the wall. AC does have some story to sure!

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    Here are the earnings as reflected in the losing case against the BBB where Advantage Conferences was adjudicated to be a pyramid scheme and lost in Summary Judgment:

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    Comments: Is there any way could get my ten thousand dollars back. Tim Darnell you may remember me I was the "no smoke and mirrors" lady under Jim Wald. In one of your ad videos
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    That precious lady, Tamara Welch Fisher, was in at the very beginning under that shyster Jim Wald. All Star Entrepreneur, with Tim Darnell as president and founder at his home address, was imploding into bankruptcy, but Jim Wald hung on to Tim knowing they could start fresh and bilk lots of trusting Christians out of their money in a new scam. That is when Advantage Conferences was born. This dear lady lost the $10,000.00 plus conservatively $5,000.00 more in advertising and scamference attendance costs. The whopping checks she received would have covered a few trips to Mac Donald's.

    There is a special place in hell for Jim, Jack Weinzierl and Tim Darnell. 98% of the participants lost money and for many it was their life savings and they will never recover! With Advantage Conferences bankrupt and dissolved and Jack screaming pauper it is too late for anyone to recover especially considering that the statute of limitations on most of the possible causes of action have expired. That being said, it is paramount we see that these scammers can never claim another victim. I still strongly recommend these folks continue filing complaints with the Texas Attorney General's Office.





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