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    After an exhaustive review of the research literature, here’s the final word on nutrition and health:

    1. Japanese eat very little fat and suffer fewer heart attacks than us.
    2. Mexicans eat a lot of fat and suffer fewer heart attacks than us.
    3. Chinese drink very little red wine and suffer fewer heart attacks than us.
    4. Italians drink excessive amounts of red wine and suffer fewer heart attacks than us.
    5. Germans drink beer and eat lots of sausages and fats and suffer fewer heart attacks than us.

    CONCLUSION: Eat and drink what you like. Speaking English is apparently what kills you.
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    Humm.. Very interesting..
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    Over on the eastern shore of maryland we built a project. We had terrible issues with subcontractors, not making delivery dates, not answering phone calls, not responding to emails, not completing or showing up on time. If it was hunting season or good fishin weather they'd just dissappear. One finally said to me. "Don't worry we'll get it done. We just do things different over here, you fellas in DC/Balt it is go go go....we don't have as many heart attacks this side of the bay"

    Stress has a lot to do with it. As do all the (legal prescription) drugs we consume in this country. And our air, and our water, and our bioengineered, human waste fertilized, growth hormone injected, roundup ready, irradiated foods we consume.

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    I looked up "obesity" at Wikipedia, and it said this:

    "From the early 1970s to the late 1990s the average calories available per person per day (the amount of food bought) has increased in all parts of the world except Eastern Europe. The United States had the highest availability with 3,654 calories per person in 1996. This increased further in 2003 to 3,754. During the late 1990s Europeans had 3,394 calories per person, in the developing areas of Asia there were 2,648 calories per person, and in sub-Saharan Africa people had 2,176 calories per person. Total calorie consumption has been found to be related to obesity."

    People in the United States are eating too many calories and not getting enough exercise.

    And you're more likely to have a heart attack when you're unhealthy and obese.

    Where I work, a large percentage of the people are overweight. I always see people buying pastries, candy and chips out of the vending machines.

    One thing is for sure ... Americans do love their junk food.

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    One thing is for sure ... Americans do love their junk food.
    Please define junk...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Wolf View Post
    Where I work, a large percentage of the people are overweight. I always see people buying pastries, candy and chips out of the vending machines.

    One thing is for sure ... Americans do love their junk food.
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    Please define junk...

    Didn't he just?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emet View Post
    Please define junk...

    Well, also from Wikipedia
    Junk food is an informal term applied to some foods which are perceived to have little or no nutritional value, or to products with nutritional value but which also have ingredients considered unhealthy when regularly eaten, or to those considered unhealthy to consume at all. The term was coined by Michael Jacobson, director of the Center for Science in the Public Interest, in 1972.[1]

    Junk foods are typically ready to eat convenience foods containing high levels of saturated fats, salt, or sugar; and little or no fruit, vegetables, or dietary fibre.

    Junk food includes foods such as hamburgers, hot dogs, chocolate, ice cream, cake, French fries (if oil-baked).
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    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post
    After an exhaustive review of the research literature, here’s the final word on nutrition and health:

    1. Japanese eat very little fat and suffer fewer heart attacks than us.
    2. Mexicans eat a lot of fat and suffer fewer heart attacks than us.
    3. Chinese drink very little red wine and suffer fewer heart attacks than us.
    4. Italians drink excessive amounts of red wine and suffer fewer heart attacks than us.
    5. Germans drink beer and eat lots of sausages and fats and suffer fewer heart attacks than us.

    CONCLUSION: Eat and drink what you like. Speaking English is apparently what kills you.

    You forgot about the SCOTS!

    The jus dinnae gie a hoot mon!




    Almost the entire adult population of Scotland are 'living dangerously' due to their unhealthy lifestyles, according to a new study.

    An estimated 97.5 per cent of Scots are likely to be either cigarette smokers, heavy drinkers, overweight, don't exercise or have a poor diet. And two thirds are either overweight or obese.

    Researchers from the University of Glasgow analysed the lifestyles of 6,574 Scottish men and women using data from the 2003 Scottish Health Study.

    They looked at five major lifestyle risk facors; smoking, drinking, poor diet, lack of exercise and being overweight or obese.

    All increase a person's risk of developing high blood pressure, heart disease, stroke, types of cancer and alcohol related diseases which are major killers in Scotland and the rest of the UK.

    The study found that 97.5 per cent of Scots had at least one of the risk factors, whilst a staggering 55 per cent had three.

    And one in five of the population had four or all five of the risk factors.

    A meagre 2.5 per cent of the population were free from all five risk factors.

    Dr David Conway, from the University of Glasgow, who led the study, said: "Our analysis shows that around two-thirds of the Scottish population is overweight or obese, a similar proportion are not sufficiently physically active, and most people have a poor diet. It is just that it is not the same majority for each factor."

    The study also found a clear link between poor health and low educational achievement- those without a higher education were three times more likely to have four or more risk factors.

    As bad as these figures appear, the true picture may even be worse, as the findings are based on people reporting their own eating and drinking habits.

    "Respondents might tend to give answers that would convey more favourable behaviors," said Dr Conway.

    "This was confirmed for alcohol consumption by an analysis comparing self-reported alcohol intake in the Scottish Health Surveys with alcohol estimates, which suggested that surveys may understate alcohol consumption by as much as 50 per cent."

    One glimmer of hope for the Scots (and the rest of us) is that three of the risk factors - poor diet, lack of exercise and obesity - are very closely related. Changing one of the risk factors can have a positive effect on the others.

    The findings are published to-day in the journal BMC Public Health
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    I can't imagine life without a little bit of junk food once in a blue, in moderation. I think it's an evil government plot to label Ben and Jerry's junk food, btw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Life Aloft View Post
    I can't imagine life without a little bit of junk food once in a blue, in moderation. I think it's an evil government plot to label Ben and Jerry's junk food, btw.
    Speaking o the Scots,have you ever eaten porridgeoats outta sporan?---now thats what you call junk food!
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    I have had porridge oat cakes in the past a few times and I thought they were great. They are pretty hard to find here though. I really like oats and especially oatmeal for breakfast and in various nutrition bars, etc. That being said, we won't go into haggis. lol How such a refined, civilized country can consume something like that is beyond me. (just kidding) Haggis does scare me though. I am brave, but not that brave.

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    Have you never been to a Burns Supper?
    I thought the Americanos loved all that stuff.
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    Nope. I have read his poetry in the past, way in the past in school but that's about it. I doubt many Americans have eaten haggis either, here or in Scotland while visiting though. I have seen it consumed in person once in a restaurant in Scotland (the smell alone was extremely discouraging to say the least) and watched Anthony Bourdain and Andrew Zimmern rave about it and eat it on their shows of which I am a huge fan of those shows, but then look at what else they consume. lmao I have been pretty brave while traveling and tried many new foods, especially in Asia, but haggis??? Not so much. lol I am not a big fan of eating various animals organs actually. I think that's my issue. I prefer the outtards not the innards.
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    Haggis is known as 'grapeshot' by the true sheep stealers from the Highlands.
    It fed an entire armys stomachs for many a cold winter,and helped beat the dratted Edwards Army on more than a few ocassions.
    Hadrians wall wasnt built to keep the English in---it was built to keep the Scottish out! But thats another story.
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    Can we get back to the good stuff, please?

    I eat some form of chocolate just about every day. I love B&J's Chocolate Fudge Brownie: both the real deal and the low fat frozen yogurt.

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    Heres the delectable recipe,in case you want to try it at home.
    First,catch a sheep---!

    "Here's a recipe for the beloved Haggis of Scotland. In addition to the other naughty (read 'delectable') bits, the lungs are traditionally included in Scotland, but are omitted here as it's illegal to sell lungs in the U.S. (Any clues as to why, anybody?). Some folks also think that liver shouldn't be used ..."


    1 sheep's lung (illegal in the U.S.; may be omitted if not available)
    1 sheep's stomach
    1 sheep heart
    1 sheep liver
    1/2 lb fresh suet (kidney leaf fat is preferred)
    3/4 cup oatmeal (the ground type, NOT the Quaker Oats type!)
    3 onions, finely chopped
    1 teaspoon salt
    1 teaspoon freshly ground pepper
    1/2 teaspoon cayenne
    1/2 teaspoon nutmeg
    3/4 cup stock
    Wash lungs and stomach well, rub with salt and rinse. Remove membranes and excess fat. Soak in cold salted water for several hours. Turn stomach inside out for stuffing.
    Cover heart and liver with cold water. Bring to a boil, reduce heat, cover and simmer for 30 minutes. Chop heart and coarsely grate liver. Toast oatmeal in a skillet on top of the stove, stirring frequently, until golden. Combine all ingredients and mix well. Loosely pack mixture into stomach, about two-thirds full. Remember, oatmeal expands in cooking.

    Press any air out of stomach and truss securely. Put into boiling water to cover. Simmer for 3 hours, uncovered, adding more water as needed to maintain water level. Prick stomach several times with a sharp needle when it begins to swell; this keeps the bag from bursting. Place on a hot platter, removing trussing strings. Serve with a spoon. Ceremoniously served with "neeps, tatties and nips" -- mashed turnips, mashed potatoes, nips of whiskey.



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    THE SERVING OF THE HAGGIS
    From Jeff Smith's The Frugal Gourmet On Our Immigrant Ancestors:

    Traditionally, a Haggis is made from the lung, liver, and heart of the sheep. These are mixed with oatmeal and a few spices and stuffed into the sheep's stomach. After being boiled, the Haggis is brought to the table with a great deal of ceremony. A piper ushers in the Haggis and all raise a glass of Scotch whiskey and "brrreath a prrayerr for the soul of Rrrobbie Burrrns!" It is then served with "neeps and nips," mashed turnips and nips of whiskey. I think you have to drink a lot of Scotch before you can truly enjoy this dish, but a party of Scots without a Haggis is simply not heard of.
    I prepared this recipe for the Medinah Highlander Pipe and Drum Band of Chicago. They piped the Haggis into the dining room, the boiled sheep's stomach being carried on a silver tray by Craig, my assistant. The Pipe and Drum Major cut the Haggis in the sign of the Cross and the party began. These pipers ate everything in sight ... so I am willing to offer you *MY* version of Haggis.

    THE MAJOR INGREDIENTS:
    1 pound beef heart, cut into 2-inch-wide strips.
    1 pound beef liver.
    1/2 pound lamb stew meat, cut in 1-inch cubes.
    1 1/2 cups peeled and finely chopped yellow onion.
    4 tablespoons Scots whisky.
    2 cups oatmeal, toasted on a cookie sheet in a 375F oven for 10 minutes).
    THE SEASONINGS:
    2 teaspoons salt.
    1/2 teaspoon freshly ground black pepper.
    1 teaspoon dried thyme, whole.
    1/2 teaspoon dried rosemary.
    1/4 teaspoon freshly grated nutmeg.
    THE CASING:
    3 beef CAPS (Talk to a sausage shop about these).
    1 cup distilled white vinegar.
    1/2 tablespoon salt for soaking.
    Place the beef heart in a 4-quart covered pot and just cover with cold water. Simmer, covered, for 1 hour and 10 minutes.
    Add the beef liver and lamb stew meat, and cover and simmer for 20 minutes. Remove the contents of the pot and cool. Reserve 1 cup of the liquid. Grind everything coarsely.

    In a large bowl mix all of the ingredients, except for the beef caps, vinegar, and salt for soaking. Mix well and set aside.

    Rinse the beef caps in cold water. Turn them inside out and soak them in 2 quarts of cold water with the salt and vinegar for 1/2 hour. Drain them and rinse very well, inside and out.

    Divide the meat mixture into three parts. Fill the beef caps with the meat mixture and tie the ends off with string. Two will have to be tied on just one end, but the third piece will be tied on both ends. Prick the Haggis all over with corn holders or a sharp fork. Place in a steamer and steam for 1 hour and 20 minutes.

    Serve the Haggis, sliced, with beef or lamb gravy.
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    I am sure that it did. I can imagine great pots of it being cooked in the 13th century and filling the bellies of men going to battle and shouting things like "Every man dies, but not every man really lives". lol But that was before refrigeration and the sensible practice of eating a really good steak or a good beef stew, sans any organs, lips, hooves, heads, etc. Black Angus beef for example raised here, is the most popular beef around. It's wonderful. But there are no organs involved. lol I can't eat lamb anyways, I am very allergic to it. Can't even wear wool clothing, makes me break out. Even if I wasn't, I can't manage the idea of sheep organs or any animal or seafood organs for that matter.
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    I think I will take just the smooth expensive whiskey and perhaps a little of the mashed potatoes to soak it up. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emet View Post
    Can we get back to the good stuff, please?

    I eat some form of chocolate just about every day. I love B&J's Chocolate Fudge Brownie: both the real deal and the low fat frozen yogurt.

    You and my wife. She loves chocolate. We eat pizzels often and I love them...the anise ones. They are really my faves. But lately, she has also been buying these "petit ecolier" european biscuits. They have a thin layer of really good milk chocolate on the top and man, they are addicting. Excellent with milk, tea or coffee. We also like the yoplait chocolate mousse whips and eat them with all kinds of fresh fruit and sometimes mixed nuts and or granola. They are damn tasty, especially with fresh fruit, nuts and granola.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Life Aloft View Post
    I am sure that it did. I can imagine great pots of it being cooked in the 13th century and filling the bellies of men going to battle and shouting things like "Every man dies, but not every man really lives". lol But that was before refrigeration and the sensible practice of eating a really good steak or a good beef stew, sans any organs, lips, hooves, heads, etc. Black Angus beef for example raised here, is the most popular beef around. It's wonderful. But there are no organs involved. lol I can't eat lamb anyways, I am very allergic to it. Can't even wear wool clothing, makes me break out. Even if I wasn't, I can't manage the idea of sheep organs or any animal or seafood organs for that matter.
    The warcry of the time was:-

    You can take our lives--but you'll never take our freedom


    But that was after a few drams!( Which helped!)

    Can you imagine standing in a straight battle line as an Englishman with only a musket for protection,and all these hairy Scotsmen charging towards you in skirts,eyes wild, with the bagpipes blaring?--- Scary!

    And its all thanks to the humble haggis.
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    What's scarey is that the English knew and understood that the Scots always went commando wearing those kilts! lmao I couldn't resist!

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Life Aloft View Post
    What's scarey is that the English knew and understood that the Scots always went commando wearing those kilts! lmao I couldn't resist!
    Bit nippy in the winter,thats why the Scots call their willie 'the wee man'

    Imagine only having heather for loo paper,scratchy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Father View Post
    Bit nippy in the winter,thats why the Scots call their willie 'the wee man'

    Imagine only having heather for loo paper,scratchy!
    Rough (no pun intended) times, eh? ROTFL! Somewhat like the shrinkage episode on Seinfeld.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Life Aloft View Post
    We eat pizzels often and I love them...the anise ones.
    I hope your minor typo was meant to say you love pizzelles and not pizzles...


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