Thread: MWave is Banned

Yikes, where's the edit button? Falling out... not falling. Sorry! And thanks Glim. :)

Originally Posted by Zachary
I can't handle the endless phone calls and drama and complaints. The people have spoken, I listened.. Do any of you realize the amount of death threats I GET?! Please respect my name.

Please respect your name? How can we do that when you have repeatedly lied about it. It's George Dranichak. It's not Zachary and it's not Jerky LeBoeuf. Just because you finally did one right thing, that does not excuse your lies and deceit, not to mention your total univolvement in the site. Asshat. Please do not give this fool any credit because he doesn't deserve any. One right does not erase the multitude of wrongs by this bozo.

Originally Posted by Lisa

Yikes, where's the edit button? Falling out... not falling. Sorry! And thanks Glim. :)

(Your Welcome)

The edit button should be in the box beneath your post. If I recall correctly you should be able to edit without leaving an edit stamp for 2 or 3 minutes and be able to edit with a stamp for 10 or 15. If it's not working like that folks should tell me and I'll fix it.

Originally Posted by Soapboxmom

That is complete bull. When Lenny was made a Mod he was banned by NMH. I banned his next screen name and it was banned again by LM. I wrote that liar LM and "Zachary" / George numerous times linkng her fabrications and most importantly quoting all the times Lenny called the site a "cesspool" full of "troll dung" and garbage and filth. Zachary and her ladyship were repeatedly warned before that numbskull made him an admin. He always blew off Stephanie and the rest of us. I have all the PMs and e-mails saved.

NO honorable person would ever post on that cesspool again. It is a den of a porn mogul and his Queen who can never be trusted or respected. I tried everything to get him the information he needed to make an informed decision concerning Lenny and we can all see the result.

Let's get busy showing them how a well run site looks. I have lots more MLMs to post about and I am thrilled to be able to really scambust! Onward!

Soapboxmom

This is the truth. The real truth. This is what I just stated on a thread I started in the rant forum. I posted it there because i was told that is where that sort of thing is done, but apparently that has changed, since this thread is here. Very confusing.

http://www.realscam.com/f22/i-find-all-curious-122/

I am disheartened to see everyone kissing George's ass and the Bitch's ass today and posting merrily away over there. Just how short and incomplete are people's memory? Where exactly are people's loyalties? I also want to know why that Bitch is allowed on here, frankly. I left Scam for several reasons and one of them was to escape her bullshit. Yet, here she is and people are throwing all kinds of acolades her way. Makes me vomit.

Originally Posted by Unsaved Trash

Please respect your name? How can we do that when you have repeatedly lied about it. It's George Dranichak. It's not Zachary and it's not Jerky LeBoeuf. Just because you finally did one right thing, that does not excuse your lies and deceit, not to mention your total univolvement in the site. Asshat. Please do not give this fool any credit because he doesn't deserve any. One right does not erase the multitude of wrongs by this bozo.

When the Lenny fiasco started I contacted George on his Facebook page and one of those disgusting porn sites (goharddotcom in fact) and GeorgeatGeurilla traffic as usual blew me and Staph and everyone off. He had very honest, hardworking Mods and he ignored us preferring to hop into bed with Lenny instead. When will he finally admit Stephanie is a dishones,t manipulative woman and he is a total do nothing who threw Scam right down the toilet despite numerous caring people beggin for some measure of help? Pathetic.

What a pair!

Soapboxmom

Some of us don't care that George is involved in porn. I certainly don't. To be entirely honest, I make a few bucks a week from promoting porn sites. I guess you can hang me too.

George has his faults as a forum owner. I think he claims to be more busy than he actually is, I also think it takes almost the entire board throwing up their hands in disgust in order to get him to pay attention. Otherwise, he'll just generally dismiss your complaints. There are other things about George that may not be that great, but I'm not perfect either so it's a pot meet kettle situation to me.

As for Stephanie, I wasn't involved with the problems that a lot of you guys had with her and I really don't feel like I should to take sides. Do I think you're justified in your anger? Yes, I do. However this wasn't a problem concerning me. The biggest reason I opposed Len was my fear that his massive ego would eventually reach the political forum. I did NOT want to draw his attention to that forum because it's primarily run away posts, personal insults, and off topic threads. And I like it that way. lol I think calling scam.com a cesspool, however, is kind of lowering yourself to Len's standards. Whenever Len had a problem with a website it automatically became a "cesspool" and he endlessly insulted the site. Scam.com isn't perfect, but I'm not going to stop posting there. I like their political section (yes it's a nuthouse but I like it that way) and I've actually learned a LOT from the science section as well (thanks to kazza... even though sometimes he makes my head hurt lol). This doesn't have to be a "one or the other". People can post both here and there and that shouldn't be a problem. Both of the sites have their benefits, and both sites do or will have their flaws. Nothing is perfect.

Clements now shows up on scam.com as ***********.. Good work Len...

Originally Posted by Unsaved Trash

Please respect your name? How can we do that when you have repeatedly lied about it. It's George Dranichak. It's not Zachary and it's not Jerky LeBoeuf.

Gotta say, the irony of the anonymous troll Margaret, or is it Maltilda, or is it Mary Wave, or is it Len Clements, or whatever name he is using today, working for a board owner who can't get any more anonymous is quite funny after reading his crying tirades.

Originally Posted by Whip

Gotta say, the irony of the anonymous troll Margaret, or is it Maltilda, or is it Mary Wave, or is it Len Clements, or whatever name he is using today, working for a board owner who can't get any more anonymous is quite funny after reading his crying tirades.

I'm sorry; I think I just had something fly over my head that I may have missed. I think I saw this right, but I want to be sure, (Because, frankly, I'm dying to know if he's at least logged on here sometime today. I have a dark side too you know.) are you saying there was a post someplace (maybe at here at RealScam) that may or may not be Clem?...


I'm fairly surprised he hasn't logged on here and delivered some long winded diatribe about how happy we must be and how horrible we all are and what classic trolls some of us are and how he was only thinking about how hard he was trying ever so hard to make it a "better" place and on and on and on in what seems to be a never ending sentence, but then again I don't know him as well as others here do, so that's really just a guess on my part.



EDIT: Okay, I just checked his profile and he logged on this morning at around 11:30...
What completely cracked me up was, right underneith that section was the phrase, "mwave has not made any friends here yet."

Originally Posted by Mike!

I'm sorry; I think I just had something fly over my head that I may have missed. I think I saw this right, but I want to be sure, (Because, frankly, I'm dying to know if he's at least logged on here sometime today. I have a dark side too you know.) are you saying there was a post someplace (maybe at here at RealScam) that may or may not be Clem?...


I'm fairly surprised he hasn't logged on here and delivered some long winded diatribe about how happy we must be and how horrible we all are and what classic trolls some of us are and how he was only thinking about how hard he was trying ever so hard to make it a "better" place and on and on and on in what seems to be a never ending sentence, but then again I don't know him as well as others here do, so that's really just a guess on my part.

My point is that since no one has ever met it, and probably never will, regardless of what name it says is it's without proof (since it always somehow needs some), it is just as anonymous as anyone else.
As far as I'm concerned, Mwave stands for any of those names I posted being the woman it is......it's hiding behind a pseudonym that it accuses everyone else of. I don't care if it's an alleged 'company front name' or not.

If I'm not mistaken, Lenny just pulled off the first triple play in the history of scam.com.

He got himself banned as a member, a Moderator, and as an Administrator.

Do I have that right?

If so, awesome!

Not many people on any forum can make that claim.

Originally Posted by Doc Bunkum

If I'm not mistaken, Lenny just pulled off the first triple play in the history of scam.com.

He got himself banned as a member, a Moderator, and as an Administrator.

Do I have that right?

If so, awesome!

Not many people on any forum can make that claim.

And IF he ever surfaces again anywhere after this debacle, I'll bet you see those very facts proudly displayed in his ever present 'resume'.

Originally Posted by Whip

My point is that since no one has ever met it, and probably never will, regardless of what name it says is it's without proof (since it always somehow needs some), it is just as anonymous as anyone else.
As far as I'm concerned, Mwave stands for any of those names I posted being the woman it is......it's hiding behind a pseudonym that it accuses everyone else of. I don't care if it's an alleged 'company front name' or not.

Okay, thanks for clearing that up for me... I thought maybe I was reading it wrong. I was.

Originally Posted by Mike!

Okay, thanks for clearing that up for me... I thought maybe I was reading it wrong. I was.

No problem....it's just my own stupid take on the whole charade.

Originally Posted by fastmoney

Like I said we need to have a team 20 or so people that post at least twice everyday.. one new thread, one post. How can we do that? From mlm.. You should call them the founding 20 realscam team..

Maybe we get SBM to start a thread on Greyhound's Abysmal customer service or post 5 year old articles regarding Melaluca, PPD, Ignite ?

The entire Lennie Clements thread over at the Yahoo Finance Boards: Usana went poof.

Censoring 7-Jul-10 10:21 am
The people who claimed the earth was flat were able to persuade the populace that those who differed in that opinion were heretics or worse and many were put to death.

I guess we can be happy on this board that those of us who disagree with the MLM business model on moral grounds and who believe a primary spokesman for said model is corrupt and idiotic beyond belief have only had the misfortune of two and a half months of posts deleted.

At least we've kept our heads.

For those of you who want to read a board that has come to its senses, go to scam.com and read the heading Len Clements banned.
Shame on you Yahoo. You are helping propagate a system that allows shameless liars to victimize those most in need of income or their meager savings.

Yahoo! Message Boards - USANA Health Sciences Inc (USNA) - Censoring

Anybody keep a hard copy of those posts that got deleted?

And now the 2 or 3 complaints about censorship are gone at the Yahoo Usana Message Boards.
Someone has been a very busy little beaver.