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    MLM, Lyoness, Dragons Den

    Great video somebody posted in the comments section of SaltyDroid.info


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    But, but, but, but it's not an illegal pyramid it's just a pyramid. Why can't they see that? I thought these were successful business people? Oh wait, they are and that's why they saw right through this illegal pyramid scheme. Wanna bet this video is not used in any training of Lyoness people?
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    Re: MLM, Lyoness, Dragons Den

    Is it not punishable by law to promote illegal pyramids on national TV in Canada ?

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    I kept waiting for one of the Dragon Den members to ask why they were to each put in $37,500 and he had only put in $10,000 to be under him? I would have loved to have heard him try to answer that question.

    I bet his shirt was dripping wet when he took his jacket off. But the deer in the headlights look was priceless when he realized they weren't buying his sales pitch and thought he was dumb for investing $10K, or for that matter any amount of money in Lyoness. You could tell he was dumbfounded how he got the concept but they didn't and weren't immediately started writing him checks.

    I will give him credit for at least trying, but good grief at least know how to BS and sound convincing while doing it.
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    I see all Lyonessers saying it was staged, the guy was picked to misrepresent the opportunity, he did not describe it right, etc..

    I wish there was a follow up, maybe Dragons should do entire episode of the best Lyonessers pimping their scam :)

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    Of course that is what the people in Lyoness are going to say. Every member of a Ponzi say the same things when their Ponzi de Jour is exposed, or they get bad press.

    I want someone from Lyoness to explain why each of the Dragon Den members were being asked to invest $37,500 to be placed under him, or anyone else who had invested the same amount of money in Lyoness.

    I totally agree his presentation sucked, BUT this is how good they really are at presenting to potential members. If he had been presenting to a group of potential members, he would have gotten people to join; and that's what is scary. I doubt if anyone can do a polished presentation to people of the caliber of the Dragon Den members, and not receive the same fate. There is no way the founders of Lyoness would go in front of the Dragon Den members and make their presentation. It would destroy Lyoness in one minute.
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    But there was a slight hope for lyonessers when one of the Dragons said " I am not sure if it is a pyramid or nor, but i am not comfortable to pitch it to my associates".

    Even Dragons not always smart enough to call things for what they really are.


    Pitching it to Donald Trump would work better, that idiot loves Pyramids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NikSam View Post
    But there was a slight hope for lyonessers when one of the Dragons said " I am not sure if it is a pyramid or nor, but i am not comfortable to pitch it to my associates".

    Even Dragons not always smart enough to call things for what they really are.


    Pitching it to Donald Trump would work better, that idiot loves Pyramids.
    Since this was on TV, I just felt he was being nice/polite to him. I loved when the lady started demonstrating with her hands the format and then said, "what did I just form?" Then he tried to say it was not a pyramid. Priceless.

    I just wish he had a white board and he had started diagraming the program. It would have taken less than a minute to show the pyramid nature of the program when explaining how you get paid.

    We can tear his performance down all we want, but the bottom line is it works for the consumer when they are in a private meeting and all the buzz is in the room. Common sense goes out the window.
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    Re: MLM, Lyoness, Dragons Den

    Quote Originally Posted by NikSam View Post
    Pitching it to Donald Trump would work better, that idiot loves Pyramids.
    Only when he is getting truck drivers from Canada to take a second on their house and pony up for one of his shit deals. I think Salty Droid said it best in his general disgust of man worth billions preying on folks like the man that made this video. All to make a few million more.
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    There is no way the founders of Lyoness would go in front of the Dragon Den members and make their presentation. It would destroy Lyoness in one minute.
    I have watched Shark Tank a few times(guess similar to DD), it is pretty good show. Gives a good perspective of what successful business people think when making a decision. Rather refreshing as well to hear from folks who have done well in business about pyramids. Sort of puts the kibosh on the ubiquitous broke haters that MLMers always claim are killing their deals.
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    That moron - Trump, should be one step in fed pen. instead of trying to run for NY mayor.
    It is disgusting how many people admire the idiot and a scammer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NikSam View Post
    That moron - Trump, should be one step in fed pen. instead of trying to run for NY mayor.
    It is disgusting how many people admire the idiot and a scammer.
    Trump has a very successful business model. buy into a project, funnel all the money out and declare bankruptcy...rinse...repeat!
    It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!

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    Re: MLM, Lyoness, Dragons Den

    As this is in educational videos im startinga lyoness theread in the MLM or online forum

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    Good to see this video. Thanks for share such interesting video.

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