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    The times really ARE a changin' - PerfectMoney bans US users

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    Re: The times really ARE a changin' - PerfectMoney bans US users

    This is claimed CEO/Founder of Perfect Money - "Andrew Draper"



    URL: Andrew Draper, Perfect Money: "
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    Re: Liberty Reserve owner arrested, charged with money laundering, website offline

    Neither Google Image Search nor TinEye brought up any relevant details. That's the ONLY picture any one has on him. And it appears to be in a bar, not an office.

    I enlarged the picture and played with gamma a bit. The picture is way too dark, and brighten it up revealed they are indeed in a bar or cafe of some sort. I don't recognize the object to the left of him.

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    Re: Liberty Reserve owner arrested, charged with money laundering, website offline

    I think it's looks like a restaurant car of a train.

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    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing

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    Re: Liberty Reserve owner arrested, charged with money laundering, website offline

    Quote Originally Posted by NikSam View Post
    I think it's looks like a restaurant car of a train.
    That's what I thought. That's someones shoulder in a black shirt, and appears to be a coat hanger and jackets hanging behind that person.

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    Re: The times really ARE a changin' - PerfectMoney bans US users

    Evolution of addresses from "Contact us" page:

    PM_ARCHIVE_CONTACT_EVOLUTION.jpg




    Evolution of WHOIS contact details:

    PM_WHOIS_EVOLUTION.jpg


    During 2007-2008 WHOIS from Registrar showed for them some strange random addresses in Paris, France which appeared for a day and returned back to previous.


    High-res screenshots are in PDF: PM_CONTACT_EVOLUTION.pdf

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    Re: The times really ARE a changin' - PerfectMoney bans US users

    PERFECT MONEY FINANCE CORP. was registered in Panama under number 596918 on 2007-12-27

    by the offshore formation agent Ricardo Cambra La Duke

    Ricardo is also an agent of hundreds entities in Panama including well known past and current HYIP Ponzi scams such as Felmina Aliance, Panamoney, MMCIS

    3 nominated directors: ROGER ALBERTO SANTAMARA DEL CID, HUMBERTO GREGORIO BARRERA MOJICA, TATIANA ITZEL SALDAA ESCOBAR
    are also directors of hundreds of companies, none of them really connected to PM but nominated to hide the real owners.

    See the attached documents for corporation info:
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    Re: The times really ARE a changin' - PerfectMoney bans US users

    Want to see how a 'HYIP Pimpette' operates?

    Amanda says:

    May 28, 2013 at 3:47 am

    From the Perfect Money website:

    Due to increasing demand for our services, server upgrade is underway
    27.05.13

    Dear Perfect Money Customers,

    Currently, we are in process of adding new servers to a cluster to accommodate rising demand for our services. Perfect Money technical team aim to complete this task as soon as humanly possible. Once the upgrade is completed you will notice a significant improvement in system performance.

    We would like to take this opportunity to thank all our customers for loyalty and understanding.

    It appears many are choosing PM to replace Liberty Reserve.

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    Re: The times really ARE a changin' - PerfectMoney bans US users

    Perfect Money announced they the are moving to another domain - PerfectMoney.is

    And that they are now merged with a Hong Kong company - Startup Research & Investments
    and updated their mailing address:

    Unit 1213, 12/F, Wing On Plaza, 62 Mody Road
    Tsim Sha Tsui East
    Kowloon
    Hong Kong


    https://perfectmoney.com/news_view.html?id=344
    https://perfectmoney.com/contact.html

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    Re: The times really ARE a changin' - PerfectMoney bans US users

    Quote Originally Posted by NikSam View Post
    Perfect Money announced they the are moving to another domain - PerfectMoney.is

    And that they are now merged with a Hong Kong company - Startup Research & Investments
    and updated their mailing address:

    Unit 1213, 12/F, Wing On Plaza, 62 Mody Road
    Tsim Sha Tsui East
    Kowloon
    Hong Kong


    https://perfectmoney.com/news_view.html?id=344
    https://perfectmoney.com/contact.html
    Virtual office. Google says there's a dozen or more companies at that exact same unit.
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    Re: The times really ARE a changin' - PerfectMoney bans US users

    New update from Perfectmoney
    All Account that belong to US Citizens/Residents/US Companies will be disabled within 15 days
    15.06.13

    Dear Customers,

    In line with our policy, all accounts that belong to US Citizens/Residents/US Companies will be disabled on 1st of July. If you still have funds on your account, please take appropriate and timely steps to withdraw the balance. Please note that after 1st of July, no transactions can be executed at accounts that fall into the above mentioned category.

    Please do not postpone taking action to withdraw you balance.
    URL: https://perfectmoney.com/news_view.html?id=345

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    Re: The times really ARE a changin' - PerfectMoney bans US users

    Is there any way RS members in UK can unite and send a petition to to a news agency asking them to emulate US?

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    Re: The times really ARE a changin' - PerfectMoney bans US users

    Quote Originally Posted by NikSam View Post
    Perfect Money announced they the are moving to another domain - PerfectMoney.is

    And that they are now merged with a Hong Kong company - Startup Research & Investments
    and updated their mailing address:

    Unit 1213, 12/F, Wing On Plaza, 62 Mody Road
    Tsim Sha Tsui East
    Kowloon
    Hong Kong


    https://perfectmoney.com/news_view.html?id=344
    https://perfectmoney.com/contact.html
    Some update, as I met a person who claimed that PM is legally operating.

    Seems there is no such company in Honk Kong and never was as Startup Research & Investments
    Looks like PM website sanitized that name and in some places (contact us) got rid of it completely or kept as "SR & I." (legal notice)

    Every Past place they claimed they located in, declared them unauthorized and non present in country:
    Switzerland: SFBC - Public announcements
    Panama: http://supervalores.gob.pa/informaci...ance-corp.html

    While in Hong Kong, HKMA is responsible for registering and supervising operations of online banks and money brokers, which operations of PM fail under.
    An inquiry with HKMA revealed that they have a downloadable excel list of all authorized as there is not that many and any entity not mentioned there is therefore unauthorized.
    URL: http://www.hkma.gov.hk/media/eng/doc.../name_list.xls

    Neither names of Perfect Money ... or Startup Research ... appear in that list.
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    P.S.: all of it is from publicly available information, and not my attempt to find real location and operators which are known to me and to some other people but cannot be discussed yet.
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    Re: The times really ARE a changin' - PerfectMoney bans US users

    New feature from PerefctMoney.

    - "Uhmm, seems like you sending money to a criminal, please go ahead, we just had to tell you and do not bug us when you scammed"

    Quote Originally Posted by PerfectMoney
    Attention!

    Receiver’s account may be involved in high risk investment activities.

    Please consider payment to that account as your own risk.

    Perfect Money does not provide any guarantee whatsoever regarding the possible outcome of this transaction.

    If completed, the transaction cannot be reversed.
    This message appears when someone sends a payment to a HYIP program, it is unclear how PM detects those, message also shows up in other language versions.

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