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    Americans serving Americans scam

    Anyone have any further info on this scam? Serial ponzi pimp Kaleem Ahmad involved. Some type of MLM involved.

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    There are any number of charitable organizations where upwards of 90% of all donations are spent on program expenses. If people can't donate their money, they can certainly donate their time. If people can't do either, not stealing and working hard to ensure their own security is nothing to sneeze at. It's hard to imagine anything would be more effective than one of these three approaches.

    Americans Serving Americans Review: "We The People" cash gifting?

    Then we have this.

    Americans Serving Americans are based out of Georgia in the US. The company is headed up by Vice-President David Ashby.

    In 2010 Ashby (right) was promoting The Bold Approach - Affiliate marketing & recruitment In 2012 he started promoting another pyramid scheme Penny Matrix Review: God & $7/month membership.

    And this.

    They claim to have a non-profit but I don't see a Tax Identification Number and you know what has two thumbs and aint huntin? https://www.asamovement.com/about/the-non-profit

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    Charity Navigator, never heard of them.

    https://www.charitynavigator.org/ind...search.results

    And you'll love this shit.


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    https://www.facebook.com/theasamovement/

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    d in a pattern of disruptive behavior; engaged in sexual misconduct; and engaged in sexual harassment.

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    Re: Americans serving Americans scam

    It's not often you will find scammers dumb enough to get caught lying on their own website. Let's play a little game called where did $23 go...


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    Example purposes only... ASA will move forward with purchasing its first set of franchises this year 2018. Stay tuned to our Facebook Page.

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    The non examples with a total of $23 donated.

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    Re: Americans serving Americans scam

    Always big things right around the corner with the scammers...

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    https://apps.irs.gov/app/eos/pub78Se...ub78&state=All...

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    The investment plan, note the FOR Profit Status at the bottom. Also I found nothing when I searched the SEC Database. https://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse-e...ion=getcompany

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    If Americans Serving Americans was only accepting accredited investors being unregistered wouldn't be a big deal, the last slide indicates that's not the case. At a minimum cross border offerings would require registration in many countries where they are selling. Also it's not clear to me that the way this offering is structured isn't violating US law.

    If you have reason to believe that an unregistered offering claiming to rely on one of these rules does not satisfy the applicable requirements, consider this a red flag about the investment.

    Structuring a Cross-Border Securities Offering:*Common U.S. Exemptions From Registration: Hodgson Russ LLP

    Investing in unregistered securities offerings
    https://www.sec.gov/oiea/investor-al...lacements.html

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    Their enunciated investment strategy, selling bottled water on street corners. Apparently this girl will be slinging H20 for free as her wages aren't included in the profit calculation. Magically they have no expenses listed, who doesn't love the simplicity of a child's lemonade stand math?

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    If you're a big dog and go for the $100K slug you'll get 5% per month for six months. Of course they can pay investors back with their own money for up to 20 months and most would be none the wiser until withdrawals suddenly stop.

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    What are some Ponzi scheme "red flags"?

    High investment returns with little or no risk
    Overly consistent returns
    Unregistered investments
    Unlicensed sellers
    Secretive and/or complex strategies
    Issues with paperwork
    Difficulty receiving payments

    If you are aware of an investment opportunity that might be a Ponzi scheme, contact the SEC by phone at (800) 732-0330 or https://www.sec.gov/tcr.

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    Re: Americans serving Americans scam

    This video gives the illusion that David Ashby is speaking in front of a huge crowd. Three separate timestamps show the lady on the right scratching her head with every audience pan, dandruff perhaps? But what of the balloons that don't bounce and the dude with his head hung low?



    David Ashby fake audience video Americans Serving Americans.JPG

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    Re: Americans serving Americans scam

    Fake News.


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    The commodity quotes were a nice touch, except in the real world prices change. Well and reporters are generally a little more forthcoming with who they're representing.

    Perhaps the the most talented man in the production was the guy with the prayer cap and blue shirt that was able to beat David Ashby to the door while manning a camera.

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    Pocket Square and Felt Coat get my runner up for speed.

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    Even less than impressed guy put on his running shoes to film with his phone the way real journalists are known to do.

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    Other than the ticker disappearing and so much footage of the same reporters swarming the David Ashby's truck from both inside and out I was almost convinced this was a real news conference.
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    Another Scumbag Asshole.
    Haven't lost any money to online scams.......results are typical.

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    I find the scripts in porn more believable and much better acted.



    Does the model on the right look familiar?

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    How about now?

    Once I was a reporter now I be an actress.JPG

    Or now?

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    Doesn't appear the press are convinced the poor will be having their bellies filled by David Ashby and Americans Serving Americans anytime soon.

    Once I was a reporter now I be an actress2.JPG

    https://www.facebook.com/pamellla.m
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    Re: Americans serving Americans scam

    Souring with one of the Eagles.


    SEC Halts Alleged Initial Coin Offering Scam

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    Re: Americans serving Americans scam

    $25 was changing lives alright, just not the lives of people believin this garbage.

    BeEmpowered

    …your success, our business

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    "We introduce members to lucrative part/full time business opportunities that can generate passive income. We are committed to helping you live the lifestyle you desire by introducing the easiest way an average person can achieve financial freedom by merely turning as little as $25 into thousands of dollars that come in every month with a proven company that has been in business for over 9 years."

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    Individuals Loving You, founded by David Ashby from Atlanta, Georgia, U.S.A. TeamFam is our support partner. Visit www.teamfamonline.com



    Fast forward to 2018, we have yet another "opportunity" where people spend $299 on a bucket and hat.


    At least they'll have two things to shit in when all is said and done.

    What we know thus far: fake videos, no independently audited financials, no SEC filings, no TIN for the alleged not for profit, questionable judgement of at least one of the Eagles, an alleged "mini-bank", and a cult like following washing cars and sending Ashby some of the money. All on the assertion that proceeds will be used to fund businesses, yet without third party accounting who can say?

    What could possibly go wrong?
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    Re: Americans serving Americans scam

    The quote below this video makes me call into question if Forbes Riley was paid to do this story on Vfinity? As with Americans Serving Americans disclosures surrounding her remuneration are hard to come by.




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    "The show has nothing to do with Forbes Magazine. It's called Forbes Living TV because the host's name is Forbes Riley. They claim to broadcast on WE Network and Discovery channel, but they just film the episodes and put them on Youtube. At first my partner was going to go on for the hell of it, but they set up phone meeting and asked the company for $14,000 just to be on the show. :^O

    Who the hell is stupid enough to fall for this shit? How do these people even exist? "

    Lulz, this fake TV show called "Forbes Living TV" contacted my company and tried to scam me | IGN Boards

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    Re: Americans serving Americans scam

    If a company has to do a video claiming it isn't a scam you should be worried.




    More on ASA later, but for those of you that can count to 10...


    Investor Alert: 10 Red Flags That an Unregistered Offering May Be a Scam
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    Nothing says we're changing the world like a dog auction to line the pockets of eagles and animal abusers alike.

    https://www.asamovement.com/upcoming/events


    Missouri Dog Auction

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    Puppies sold in this country at Petland and Citipups and a thousand other pet stores – come from puppy mills as dire as this one.



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    Re: Americans serving Americans scam

    Gosh, I really despise humans sometimes.

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    Re: Americans serving Americans scam

    There are any number of good charities and lots of bad/inefficient ones. I think Feeding America does a good job, although I do have some issues with executive compensation. Unlike Americans Serving Americans there is financial transparency, at least I know what the compensation is and roughly where my time/money goes.

    It will be a cold day in hell before I pay $299 for a bucket and hat so I can spend my weekend at a bake sale raising money on spec. I can and have sent money to Feeding America, have also spent time sorting food donations in a few warehouses. $1 equals 3 meals, why reinvent the wheel? There are any number of causes where similar math applies, something new and completely unproven to be more efficient detracts from helping people.




    https://www.secondharvestmadison.org...does-1-3-meals

    https://www.charitynavigator.org/ind...ary&orgid=5271

    We're a year into this thing and David Ashby couldn't even be bothered to properly register a charity. To put this in perspective, there is a guy I helped (along with the VA, a homeless ministry, and a housing assistance agency) get off the streets. He is living in a tiny apartment and wears second hand clothes. Wanting to pay it forward, even he was able to register a 501(c)3 and dude can barely use a computer.


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    Re: Americans serving Americans scam

    Patented huh???

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    A prestigious patent at that???

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    Not that a patent for herbal woo means much.

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    This however means sumthin...


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    Or 62 people and a few bar charts...

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    Dr Lomax's response in a nutshell, haters!

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    Re: Americans serving Americans scam

    If I had a nickel for every world changing venture on RealScam operating via a virtual office I'd have nuff nickels to fill an ASA bucket.

    Americans Serving Americans LLC
    Control Number: 14054957
    Business Type: Domestic Limited Liability Company
    Business Status: Active/Compliance
    Business Purpose: NONE

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    Americans Serving Americans LLC in Lithonia, GA - (404) 671-2583

    Principal Office Address: 260 Peachtree Street NW Suite 2200, Atlanta, GA, 30303, USA
    Date of Formation / Registration Date: 6/3/2014
    State of Formation: Georgia Last Annual Registration Year: 2018

    https://ecorp.sos.ga.gov/BusinessSea...lity%20Company

    https://www.regus.com/office-space/u...-260-peachtree

    https://www.scamwarners.com/forum/vi...?f=10&t=115024
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    Re: Americans serving Americans scam

    David Ashby certainly talks a good game, but I don't think ASA will be for we the people that can think critically.



    A "delegate" can raise $500 per month and receive a check for $20,000 at years end. Why would people not just send $500 per month for such a magnanimous payout?

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    A "governor" can raise $30,000 and receive a check for $200,000, exactly why would accredited investors not do this in lieu of the paltry sums paid in the investment program?

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    Ashby goes on to claim that 95% of revenues (not profits) will go back to "We the People", can't be since his goofy water bottle slide contradicts this math.

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    Quite simply most accredited investors know legit investment opportunities aren't offered on Facebook or Youtube by unlicensed salespeople. A more likely scenario is a few idiots will lie about being accredited and pay the price.

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    Unregistered Investment Professionals
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    No One Else Seems to be Involved
    Be cautious if no one besides the salesperson appears to be involved in the deal. Usually, brokerage firms, accountants, law firms, or other third parties are involved in a private offering.
    Sham or Virtual Offices
    Suspicious or Unverifiable Biographies of Managers or Promoters

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    Re: Americans serving Americans scam

    "Investor club" Eh ????

    Not according to the SEC it ain't:



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    Quote Originally Posted by ribshaw View Post
    If I had a nickel for every world changing venture on RealScam operating via a virtual office I'd have nuff nickels to fill an ASA bucket.

    Americans Serving Americans LLC
    Control Number: 14054957
    Business Type: Domestic Limited Liability Company
    Business Status: Active/Compliance
    Business Purpose: NONE


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    Americans Serving Americans LLC in Lithonia, GA - (404) 671-2583
    I'm kind of fascinated by the demographics of Davis Ashby's apparent zip code there in Lithonia, Georgia:

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    55% female to 45% male?

    Average female over 6 years older than the average male?

    Hmm.

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    Re: Americans serving Americans scam

    The illusion of wealth and success should concern anyone planning to invest in ASA.


    This...

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    Aint This, which best guess is a rental...

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    http://taxcommissioner.dekalbcountyg...=Y&pin=4168591

    There are plenty of people living in big houses and driving fancy cars just a paycheck away from bankruptcy, I wouldn't invest with them either. Here we have someone that's putting on a display of affluence with things like fake press conferences.
    Call me cynical, but two SUVs filmed from a drone seems like a ploy and a financially imprudent one at that.

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    When Mike Deese was trotted out as this Western Wizard of Finance a similar dynamic took place. Desse owned a small house, but as the scam progressed he bought a $500,000 McMansion. He too was "sharing" profits with his members, just not those profits apparently. Now taxes are delinquent on both houses, and a lot of people will never see their investments. Is My Advertising Pays / The Advert Platform A Scam or Ponzi?

    There is zero transparency with ASA, just big things to come. This offering should have been registered with the SEC which would include independently audited financials. People sending cupcake money faithfully each month are taking a huge leap of faith they will more than triple it in a year.
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    Yeah, I thought this sounded familiar.

    About 50,000 children nationwide are involved. They're often underprivileged and underage. Make no mistake: These are not your neighbor's kids selling something to support their soccer team or Girl Scout troop. These children are often poor, and they're bused in to sell to you.

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    The U.S. Department of Labor says it's being exploited by greedy adults. https://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=5213468&page=1



    Wonder how people would feel knowing their donation to "Serving Americans" was actually going to people hoping to earn a kickback just like real politicians?
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    Re: Americans serving Americans scam

    Is there any proof that Holyfield doesn't have a similar deal with ASA?

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    AriseBank was running an initial coin offering, selling its virtual currency to investors for $1.20 to $1.40 a coin. The startup agreed to pay Holyfield 2.5 million AriseCoins, with an expected value of $3 million, according to former AriseBank CEO Jared Rice. It would have been one of Holyfield’s biggest paydays since the heyday of his boxing career in the late 1990s. A spokesperson for Evander Holyfield declined to comment.

    Now it seems that the value of those magic coins has vanished

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