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    Looks like BB site is down again. Was this expected?
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    Looks like BB site is down again. Was this expected?
    Sometimes they announce it and sometimes they don't. Not sure if today's outage was announced or not.

    It doesn't matter because there are almost zero complaints from the faithful about this, they simply appreciate what BB is doing for them to make the site better.

    I got a kick out of this, though:

    iipjUoua0CLXS.jpg

    Nobody even questions this kind of nonsense? So let me get this straight, if I can pretend for a minute to believe the business model:

    1. You are buying a product, not making an investment.
    2. They are renting out ad space on your behalf and returning the profit to you.
    3. By the time your panels have 'capped', etc. they have made their money already, paid their ad partners -- and the eligible withdraw amount in your dashboard is YOUR profit.

    Yet, if you did your part and put enough money (or got enough "downlines") into this to take out more than $10,000 -- you have to give them THREE MONTHS notice of your withdrawal?

    And Jamie Waters, with a straight face, can say this is 'standard business practice'?? I have news for anyone from BB who might want to actually think instead of lap up more BB dogma: That is NOT 'standard business practice'. Name one other business that sets aside profits on your behalf and requires three months lead time to release them to you.

    So BB just bought themselves three months (i.e. until the end of January) to avoid paying any one person a dime over $10,000. Throw that onto the pile of other recent changes that help them keep as much money in the system over the holidays as possible. Not to mention entire countries now unable to withdraw because they yanked Payza and STP. Talk about circling the wagons...wow...

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    Standard business practice. Oh Jamie the liar...you are some plonker.
    The only bigger plonkers are the BB drones staying quiet while they are fed this rubbish.
    Come on BB faithful, give us one other example of this business practice. Katy? Debbie? anyone...anyone...??
    Last edited by noname999; 10-30-2012 at 04:39 PM.
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    I think there are too many people in BB who just assume and believe this is standard business practice. It clearly is not.

    There are a lot of genuine victims caught up in this.

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    If they are making such assumptions and believing such ridiculous lies they deserve no sympathy. People have to help themselves too. There is no magic money tree. Its time people grew up and stopped believing in fairy tales.
    Also, they are no longer victims when they choose to support the BB lie. They are then accomplices. And supporting the scam can simply be staying quiet.
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    By the way Phil, have you any idea who set up that bogus account on TG?
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    Quote Originally Posted by noname999 View Post
    By the way Phil, have you any idea who set up that bogus account on TG?
    No idea, I would love to find out though!

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    I get the feeling it is someone who knows you to some degree. There have been people far more vocal than you and they have never resorted to this before.
    "if they are giving the Banners Broker Mastercard,Banners Broker must be a real company." -BB member.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hypanor View Post
    Drum roll please.... 2012 Affiliate of the Year (who is...?)
    Attachment 1732
    Good old Simon Stepsys

    This guy has been scamming since the 1990s read this:Envelope stuffing schemes and envelope stuffing scams

    Also:Protect Yourself From Simon Stepsys

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    Quote Originally Posted by noname999 View Post
    I get the feeling it is someone who knows you to some degree. There have been people far more vocal than you and they have never resorted to this before.
    My vote would be that it is just a rather new shill/pimp. An old time pimp would know better.

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    Think BB site is down as they are automating some part of the system for purchasing something to do with traffic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by samuel.r View Post
    Sometimes they announce it and sometimes they don't. Not sure if today's outage was announced or not.

    It doesn't matter because there are almost zero complaints from the faithful about this, they simply appreciate what BB is doing for them to make the site better.

    I got a kick out of this, though:

    iipjUoua0CLXS.jpg

    Nobody even questions this kind of nonsense? So let me get this straight, if I can pretend for a minute to believe the business model:

    1. You are buying a product, not making an investment.
    2. They are renting out ad space on your behalf and returning the profit to you.
    3. By the time your panels have 'capped', etc. they have made their money already, paid their ad partners -- and the eligible withdraw amount in your dashboard is YOUR profit.

    Yet, if you did your part and put enough money (or got enough "downlines") into this to take out more than $10,000 -- you have to give them THREE MONTHS notice of your withdrawal?

    And Jamie Waters, with a straight face, can say this is 'standard business practice'?? I have news for anyone from BB who might want to actually think instead of lap up more BB dogma: That is NOT 'standard business practice'. Name one other business that sets aside profits on your behalf and requires three months lead time to release them to you.

    So BB just bought themselves three months (i.e. until the end of January) to avoid paying any one person a dime over $10,000. Throw that onto the pile of other recent changes that help them keep as much money in the system over the holidays as possible. Not to mention entire countries now unable to withdraw because they yanked Payza and STP. Talk about circling the wagons...wow...
    It's laughable.

    I work with several affiliate networks that pay Net-7 as an industry standard, the funds wired straight to my bank account every Thursday. And some of these transactions can be up to six figures. I even know a couple of networks that operate on a Net-1 basis for their most trusted publishers, those running thousands of leads every day.

    The idea that a transaction over $10,000 merits a 3 month bottleneck is quite amusing.

    Jamie is hopeless.

    His strong suit is his Happy Go Larry accent. He sounds like your next door neighbour.

    Except my elderly neighbour knows more about business - and probably advertising - than Jamie Waters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AshKen1 View Post
    Think BB site is down as they are automating some part of the system for purchasing something to do with traffic?
    Yes, they are automating a way to hold on to even more of people's money.
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    They might as well just replace the homepage with a photo of a honeybadger and a payment form to "Feed us moaaaar"

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    I have just seen the latest call notes, some interesting points

    'Keep in mind TPs are optional – BB is an affiliate programme and TPs create an extra option for affiliates'

    Hmmm, I thought BB was not MLM, so many people advertise it as such.


    'BB International is based in the Isle of Man and is fully operational'


    First I have heard of it being in Isle of Man?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hendyphilhendy View Post
    I have just seen the latest call notes, some interesting points

    'Keep in mind TPs are optional – BB is an affiliate programme and TPs create an extra option for affiliates'

    Hmmm, I thought BB was not MLM, so many people advertise it as such.


    'BB International is based in the Isle of Man and is fully operational'


    First I have heard of it being in Isle of Man?
    I very rarely look at this thread but I saw Isle of Man mentioned and encourage all of you to look at Manx law sites very carefully. The only reason that I know is because the VLane crew diverted funds there. Their one and only British mod was very cagey. That mod (SusyQ) is back with "Thrive" food products. Any connection between BB and Thrive/Shelfreliance" could be a clue. Even Crimestoppers on Isle of Man is different from the mainland sites.

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    SusiQ is a familiar name from the talking bb forums so maybe there is a connection?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hendyphilhendy View Post
    SusiQ is a familiar name from the talking bb forums so maybe there is a connection?
    She is a very familiar name. She has a whole page about her Thrive activities here. It was front page news. Thrive foods

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    Quote Originally Posted by path2prosperity View Post
    She is a very familiar name. She has a whole page about her Thrive activities here. It was front page news. Thrive foods
    That looks like a glorified pot noodle!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hendyphilhendy View Post
    That looks like a glorified pot noodle!

    SuzyQ Page

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    Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

    Is BB moving into fraud now? http://whrl.pl/RdmzqP
    "Hello all, never posted anything on Whirlpool , so be kind. Thought you would like to know that yesterday morning When I routinely checked my emails found that $2000USD was mysteriously taken off my credit card from BANNERS BROKER. Had to cancel my cards with my bank. No idea at all how they got my credit card details. I am a simple working mum in Sydney raising 2 children, never invested in anything, rarely make internet purchases, yet somehow this mob got hold of my card details. Wondering if anyone else had same issue?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by noname999 View Post
    If they are making such assumptions and believing such ridiculous lies they deserve no sympathy. People have to help themselves too. There is no magic money tree. Its time people grew up and stopped believing in fairy tales.
    Also, they are no longer victims when they choose to support the BB lie. They are then accomplices. And supporting the scam can simply be staying quiet.
    The problem I have with blaming victims is we are at the end stages of the Banners Broker scam.

    It's probable that millions have seen the Banners Broker "opportunity" recognized it for what it is and simply walked away.

    Other than shills and HYIP ponzi "players" those remaining members ARE true believers.

    As the recently released Microsoft white paper on scammers points out:

    Finally, this approach suggests an answer to the question in the title. Far-fetched tales of West African riches strike most as comical. Our analysis suggests that is an advantage to the attacker, not a disadvantage. Since his attack has a low density of victims the Nigerian scammer has an over-riding need to reduce false positives. By sending an email that repels all but the most gullible the scammer gets the most promising marks to self-select, and tilts the true to false positive ratio in his favor.
    I learned a long time ago, it simply doesn't matter how smart I think I am or what I believe, the fact remains, some people DO fall for scams and some people DO truly believe the lies they're told.

    I can deny it's true and I can point out how stupid I think they are, BUT, I cannot deny they exist and I cannot deny they are targeted by fraudsters.

    IM(very)HO NOBODY deserves to be defrauded and NOBODY has the right to take advantage of his/her fellow humans' shortcomings / stupidity / naivete / gullibility / desperation / call it what you will.
    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hypanor View Post
    Is BB moving into fraud now? http://whrl.pl/RdmzqP
    "Hello all, never posted anything on Whirlpool , so be kind. Thought you would like to know that yesterday morning When I routinely checked my emails found that $2000USD was mysteriously taken off my credit card from BANNERS BROKER. Had to cancel my cards with my bank. No idea at all how they got my credit card details. I am a simple working mum in Sydney raising 2 children, never invested in anything, rarely make internet purchases, yet somehow this mob got hold of my card details. Wondering if anyone else had same issue?"
    You will rarely find me defending BB -- but in this case I highly doubt that BB themselves stole a non-members credit card info then charged a transaction for their own benefit. More likely some punk stole this person's credit card info and used it in a funding transaction for their own account in Allied Wallet or similar, destined for buying "panels" within BB.

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    Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

    Quote Originally Posted by samuel.r View Post
    You will rarely find me defending BB -- but in this case I highly doubt that BB themselves stole a non-members credit card info then charged a transaction for their own benefit. More likely some punk stole this person's credit card info and used it in a funding transaction for their own account in Allied Wallet or similar, destined for buying "panels" within BB.
    Agreed. Said punk would have to be pretty stupid though - Fraud is fraud in any country, and it'll be traceable if the authorities cared enough to look into it. Probably not something BB would want to get involved with either, having police/banks asking questions about a possible fraudulent affiliate!

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    All of which would be true IF Banners Broker were a legitimate business.

    Just for a moment imagine that we long term observers of the HYIP ponzi "industry" were entirely correct and Banners Broker was nothing more than a carefully orchestrated criminal enterprise from the moment of its' conception.

    losing their money would be only one of the difficulties facing victims.

    Identity fraud is almost as profitable a business as running a HYIP.

    Think about what personal information Banners Broker has in its' possession.

    Think about what sort of money the sort of unscrupulous people such as those behind Banners Broker could make selling such information on the open market.

    Don't for a second think it doesn't or can't happen.

    Just ask the Ex Zeeklers whose credit card and bank accounts were accessed even AFTER Zeek was closed down.

    Please never believe HYIP related identity theft and cash stripping doesn't happen.

    It's a very real threat and a very real possibility.
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