Thread: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

Originally Posted by Poyol

Where's BalancedView?

Jason

As it's panto season: He's behind you!!

Originally Posted by AshKen1

As it's panto season: He's behind you!!

Oh no he isn't!

Originally Posted by Poyol

Oh no he isn't!

Oh yes he is!!

Originally Posted by AshKen1

As it's panto season: He's behind you!!

Which panto are Banners Broker putting on this year?

Raj Dixit and the 40 Thieves?

Originally Posted by noname999

So the question now is...do you continue in the program?

To be honest, yes I will continue to let it run. I'm not in a strong enough financial position to take the moral high ground and say I don't want the extra money. I don't and am not going to rely on Banners Broker for day to day living, bills etc, but whilst it continues to work and pay out, I will withdraw to my Banners Broker card. Very hypocritical I agree but it's not like i'm going round recruiting, just the opposite in fact.

Originally Posted by amathyst87

To be honest, yes I will continue to let it run. I'm not in a strong enough financial position to take the moral high ground and say I don't want the extra money. I don't and am not going to rely on Banners Broker for day to day living, bills etc, but whilst it continues to work and pay out, I will withdraw to my Banners Broker card. Very hypocritical I agree but it's not like i'm going round recruiting, just the opposite in fact.

If you know what it is - and still continue to try to make more money than your initial investment is almost as bad as people who recruit if not equal to.
You're still taking money from people who don't know what this is.

Jason

Originally Posted by amathyst87

To be honest, yes I will continue to let it run. I'm not in a strong enough financial position to take the moral high ground and say I don't want the extra money. I don't and am not going to rely on Banners Broker for day to day living, bills etc, but whilst it continues to work and pay out, I will withdraw to my Banners Broker card. Very hypocritical I agree but it's not like i'm going round recruiting, just the opposite in fact.

If you wish to profit from the scam...why are you here?

Originally Posted by amathyst87

To be honest, yes I will continue to let it run. I'm not in a strong enough financial position to take the moral high ground and say I don't want the extra money. I don't and am not going to rely on Banners Broker for day to day living, bills etc, but whilst it continues to work and pay out, I will withdraw to my Banners Broker card. Very hypocritical I agree but it's not like i'm going round recruiting, just the opposite in fact.

So it's a case of "do what I say, not what I do"?

Honestly amathyst, I know we are attacking you now but you have to see why. You are claiming to want this scam shut down but you are happy enough to profit from others misery. I have to say I find it very strange. Your justification is that you can't afford to take the moral high ground. You survived before it came along. And you will have to survive when it is gone.

Sent you a PM

Originally Posted by noname999

You survived before it came along. And you will have to survive when it is gone.

Hear, hear.

I'm not here to attack you, John.
Just what you've said in my eyes is out of order.

Originally Posted by Theseus

Which panto are Banners Broker putting on this year?

Raj Dixit and the 40 Thieves?

"Open Sesame" " "I said Open Sesame" " Hey Raj it isnt opening"
Raj: Thats because of a technical hitch. We are working on it be patient.

How about Cyclerella?
Ponzi in reboots?
Dix Ripoffman and his cash?
A lad in and his magic lump

As I say, it's hypocritical of me, I admit that, but even if I just left the account and never logged back in it would still continue to make money. No one wins if I do that, and yes it could be deemed selfish, but if I have £500 sat there, you better believe i'm going to withdraw it.

To say that makes me as bad as the the people actually peddling Banners Broker actively is, whilst unfair, your opinion and you're all entitled to it. I am going to continue reading this thread, it's been extremely eye opening and an enjoyable read. This post probably hasn't done me any favours either. I like money, and if someone is going to continue to give it to me for pressing a few buttons once a week, then i'm sorry but I will take it. If the money comes from people who are opening new accounts I won't be losing any sleep, I have not encouraged anyone to join, I would actively encourage people to NOT join and to run a mile as likelihood is the bubble will burst soon.

Again, definitely not going to make any friends now but I shall continue to enjoy the work put in by everyone here to uncover what's actually going on.

Originally Posted by amathyst87

As I say, it's hypocritical of me, I admit that, but even if I just left the account and never logged back in it would still continue to make money. No one wins if I do that, and yes it could be deemed selfish, but if I have £500 sat there, you better believe i'm going to withdraw it.

To say that makes me as bad as the the people actually peddling Banners Broker actively is, whilst unfair, your opinion and you're all entitled to it. I am going to continue reading this thread, it's been extremely eye opening and an enjoyable read. This post probably hasn't done me any favours either. I like money, and if someone is going to continue to give it to me for pressing a few buttons once a week, then i'm sorry but I will take it. If the money comes from people who are opening new accounts I won't be losing any sleep, I have not encouraged anyone to join, I would actively encourage people to NOT join and to run a mile as likelihood is the bubble will burst soon.

Again, definitely not going to make any friends now but I shall continue to enjoy the work put in by everyone here to uncover what's actually going on.

So you know where the money is coming from, and you know it's illegal, but you "like money", so you're going to continue to participate.

Here's a newsflash for you, we all like money, we just don't like stealing it from other people...

Originally Posted by Beacon

"Open Sesame" " "I said Open Sesame" " Hey Raj it isnt opening"
Raj: Thats because of a technical hitch. We are working on it be patient.

How about Cyclerella?
Ponzi in reboots?
Dix Ripoffman and his cash?
A lad in and his magic lump

Raj Dixit and the 7 Traffic Packs?

I love money - I've not got a lot of it.
Yet, I'm still not trying to sign up to Banners Broker under another guise to earn money - only to capture the inner workings on the scheme.

Which you'll see in screenshots throughout this thread.

Jason

Originally Posted by Hypanor

Nice work Julie, very Diligent!

Thanks. You know me: Diligent by name; diligent by nature.

Incidentally, there are a further 5 domain names on the 'Choice' server I've never reported; they don't have websites.

If the Guarinis plan to develop them like Townbeats/Buzinga... build their home-based business on the side... we might speculate what products they'll be peddling:

HungerWithoutCruelty.com - A new crash diet by the Samaritans?

ViralNewscast.com - Subscriptions to a new niche medical channel: 'Pox News'?

MagCrunch.com - A handy-dandy shredder-compactor for your trash reading matter?

BuildCoolSites.com - Plots of land for the Inuit?

DarkSinners.com - Ooer! Plain chocolate Illuminati figures?

Any other suggestions?

Originally Posted by Poyol

I love money - I've not got a lot of it.
Yet, I'm still not trying to sign up to Banners Broker under another guise to earn money - only to capture the inner workings on the scheme.

Which you'll see in screenshots throughout this thread.

Jason

I don't have a lot of it either, hence why I'm not really interested in turning it down. I've got my money back I put in, i'm happy with that, if more comes through then so be it, if it all implodes tomorrow, fine, I have my money back and haven't lost anything which is all that counts. I'd be just as happy either way. As I say, i've never had anyone sign up under my account, and i've never asked anyone to, do I feel guilty? No. No I do not.

Originally Posted by Julie Diligent

Thanks. You know me: Diligent by name; diligent by nature.

Incidentally, there are a further 5 domain names on the 'Choice' server I've never reported; they don't have websites.

If the Guarinis plan to develop them like Townbeats/Buzinga... build their home-based business on the side... we might speculate what products they'll be peddling:

HungerWithoutCruelty.com - A new fad diet by the Samaritans?

ViralNewscast.com - Subscriptions to a new niche medical channel: 'Pox News'?

MagCrunch.com - A handy-dandy shredder-compactor for your trash reading matter?

BuildCoolSites.com - Plots of land for the Inuit?

DarkSinners.com - Ooer! Plain chocolate Illuminati figures?

Any other suggestions?

I can tell it's Friday afternoon....

Originally Posted by Beacon

Here is my take on this:

AS I see it 10+2.50 = 12.50 per yellow
Everytime you SELL then note I put in $10 bought a yellow panel qualified it and sold it So that is 12.5 in the system
If you do this 12 times that is 150 in the system

Now I accept you say the system owes you 240 but the system wont be able to pay because you only put in 150. The system is 90 short. So wher dos the other 90 come from? Well it simply comes from the new stooges signing up!
AS yu move up the pyramid you may get more and more money you can withdraw. But greed will keep many people locked in.
Fortunately ther appears to be over 200,000 yellow stooges at 90 a go and their 18 million has been redistributed to the people higher upline who as you admit sold them the panels

Of course this can't go on forever. Eventually you will run out of downline contributers. But not before those on top freeze payments and divert all the 90 and other lower contributers into their own pockets.

Well Beacon, you are getting the gist of it, except I wouldn't have put in $150 dollars I would have used the return from the first sold yellow panel to buy the second then the third from the the reurns of the second....
so my initial input would have been very small as stated $10 + $2.50 for the impressions in the scenario.

Furthermore you explain that the $90 that bannersbroker pays out as profit on the twelve panels that were bought and sold comes from the new guys joining bannersbroker, yet there is no evidence from yourself that this is actually the case! its just your feelings that you are expressing.

If I bought an $12.50 usb stick from a wholesaler and sold it on ebay for $20 within a month, then repeated the same cycle 12 times as before wouldn't there be a profit on trading of $90. Would you say that the profit is being paid from some pyramid scheme? no you wouldn't because its clear to see sense in that business. Yet when the product is impressions because you cant see it, you cant touch it, you cant eat it, you feel its fraud. Yet you cant see minutes you buy from a mobile network, you cant touch those minutes, you cant eat those minutes and yet you spend plenty of money buying and using those minutes.

Impressions are a product used by advertisers and they pay good money to buy and use those impressions, google, facebook, youtube etc. are clear examples of how lucrative the sale of impressions are, yet when bannersbroker offer the opportunity for you to buy and sell impressions its a scam.

Originally Posted by Julie Diligent

If the Guarinis plan to develop them like Townbeats/Buzinga... build their home-based business on the side...

I've investigated a lot of scam retail sites and it's rare to see any as poor as Townbeats/Buzinga. Most scammers that are going down this route at least have the savvy to build something that passes for a genuine, legitimate retail site, you'd have to be incredibly gullible to be taken in by either of these.

The only conclusion I can draw is that the sites are either there purely so the likes of that muppet Alex on the Finchsells thread think the "Choice Network" actually exists, or the Guarinis are idiots.

My money is on the former.

Originally Posted by BB Defender

Well Beacon, you are getting the gist of it, except I wouldn't have put in $150 dollars I would have used the return from the first sold yellow panel to buy the second then the third from the the reurns of the second....
so my initial input would have been very small as stated $10 + $2.50 for the impressions in the scenario.

Furthermore you explain that the $90 that bannersbroker pays out as profit on the twelve panels that were bought and sold comes from the new guys joining bannersbroker, yet there is no evidence from yourself that this is actually the case! its just your feelings that you are expressing.

If I bought an $12.50 usb stick from a wholesaler and sold it on ebay for $20 within a month, then repeated the same cycle 12 times as before wouldn't there be a profit on trading of $90. Would you say that the profit is being paid from some pyramid scheme? no you wouldn't because its clear to see sense in that business. Yet when the product is impressions because you cant see it, you cant touch it, you cant eat it, you feel its fraud. Yet you cant see minutes you buy from a mobile network, you cant touch those minutes, you cant eat those minutes and yet you spend plenty of money buying and using those minutes.

Impressions are a product used by advertisers and they pay good money to buy and use those impressions, google, facebook, youtube etc. are clear examples of how lucrative the sale of impressions are, yet when bannersbroker offer the opportunity for you to buy and sell impressions its a scam.

For your Ebay scenario to be accurate you'd need to be buying your USB sticks at the full retail of $20 and then selling them by the million at twice the normal going rate.

Originally Posted by BB Defender

Well Beacon, you are getting the gist of it, except I wouldn't have put in $150 dollars I would have used the return from the first sold yellow panel to buy the second then the third from the the reurns of the second....
so my initial input would have been very small as stated $10 + $2.50 for the impressions in the scenario.

Furthermore you explain that the $90 that bannersbroker pays out as profit on the twelve panels that were bought and sold comes from the new guys joining bannersbroker, yet there is no evidence from yourself that this is actually the case! its just your feelings that you are expressing.

If I bought an $12.50 usb stick from a wholesaler and sold it on ebay for $20 within a month, then repeated the same cycle 12 times as before wouldn't there be a profit on trading of $90. Would you say that the profit is being paid from some pyramid scheme? no you wouldn't because its clear to see sense in that business. Yet when the product is impressions because you cant see it, you cant touch it, you cant eat it, you feel its fraud. Yet you cant see minutes you buy from a mobile network, you cant touch those minutes, you cant eat those minutes and yet you spend plenty of money buying and using those minutes.

Impressions are a product used by advertisers and they pay good money to buy and use those impressions, google, facebook, youtube etc. are clear examples of how lucrative the sale of impressions are, yet when bannersbroker offer the opportunity for you to buy and sell impressions its a scam.

Bad analogy. You can hear those minutes, you know they're working, without having minutes, you can not make a call. I also really struggle to get behind this concept of selling impressions as Banners Broker claim to do. You can't force people onto specific sites to view the banners (if they actually do exist and are on legitimate websites). This happens organically, people visit sites, a banner pops up, they see it. Banners Broker claim to be able to send traffic to banners. It just doesn't work like that. If i've misunderstood what it is Banners Broker are doing then fair enough, but i'm prett sure they have said they work with a company that sends traffic to websites. You can send traffic to websites, sure, but it isn't real traffic, it isn't real people.

Originally Posted by Theseus

I've investigated a lot of scam retail sites and it's rare to see any as poor as Townbeats/Buzinga. Most scammers that are going down this route at least have the savvy to build something that passes for a genuine, legitimate retail site, you'd have to be incredibly gullible to be taken in by either of these.

The only conclusion I can draw is that the sites are either there purely so the likes of that muppet Alex on the Finchsells thread think the "Choice Network" actually exists, or the Guarinis are idiots.

My money is on the former.

I had a look on that site and took it all the way to the checkout (no further, wouldn't dream of putting my card or paypal details in!). I did find it interesting that they allowed Paypal as a payment option and yet with BB they won't touch it with a bargepole.

Originally Posted by hendyphilhendy

I had a look on that site and took it all the way to the checkout (no further, wouldn't dream of putting my card or paypal details in!). I did find it interesting that they allowed Paypal as a payment option and yet with BB they won't touch it with a bargepole.

As Julie mentioned earlier, the Paypal account resolves to the non-existent "8136655 Canada Limited". I suspect this may be an attempt at obtaining a PayPal account for Banners Broker by the back door.

Originally Posted by amathyst87

I don't have a lot of it either, hence why I'm not really interested in turning it down. I've got my money back I put in, i'm happy with that, if more comes through then so be it, if it all implodes tomorrow, fine, I have my money back and haven't lost anything which is all that counts. I'd be just as happy either way. As I say, i've never had anyone sign up under my account, and i've never asked anyone to, do I feel guilty? No. No I do not.

I can see where you're both coming from.

I've also "invested" in BB, and will shortly be in the position of being able to withdraw my initial investment, I'm not sure I'm going to though, they want far too much info for my liking, passport, driving licence, proof of address etc.

They've already got my credit card (now cancelled because I don't trust them).

I'm beginning to think it's probably best to lose my investment than to risk identity fraud. As I've already pointed out to someone else, we don't really know who's behind all of this.

If I eventually do pull my investment out, I'll leave the balance in and let it build, never take another penny, then if he can be found, sting Chris Smith with a small claims in the Canadian courts :- What is Small Claims Court? (if a non Canadian is allowed to do this)

If my account gets closed, I'll try to do the same.