Thread: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

Originally Posted by littleroundman

No, he means the office inside "Chris Smiths" head.

Accessible via the 7 1/2th floor of 5 Carlow Ct?

Has the BB tour been cancelled?
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Originally Posted by DevaEboracum

Has the BB tour been cancelled?
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There was some chat about it being cancelled on MMG but I have not seen anything from BB itself or FB pages,

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Originally Posted by DevaEboracum

Has the BB tour been cancelled?
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Maybe they're planning events they know will be cancelled, with no intention of refunding? For some reason, I can't foresee them returning any money paid, should an event be cancelled...or is that, "cancelled"?

Originally Posted by Unknown_S

Maybe they're planning events they know will be cancelled, with no intention of refunding? For some reason, I can't foresee them returning any money paid, should an event be cancelled...or is that, "cancelled"?

They may be talking cancelled India event. I am sure they will not refund the money.
they clearly know that people will give up chasing them.

They know.

They use the number 100 all the time because thats all Pauls old Casio will go up to.
This is why he hasn't been seen for a while - Canada has given him permission for an upgrade, so he's out shopping for the best calculator you can buy for 100 pounds/euros/dollars/pesos (I'm never sure which currency to talk with BB!).

Rumour has it he's going for a 'scientific' calculator to cater for the new panel.

My favourite affiliate has added a new page to his site. Entitled "Blog", it consists of short pieces of writing which are him waffling on about various things he has heard on Radio 4, always coming back to why BB is FAB! I detect a certain note of seeking reassurance in what he writes. And I am not sure that he realises how some of his comments can be taken in ways other than what he intended. Here is his very latest offering, hot off the presses - please do note the very last line.....

"Mark Wilde, the Banners Broker affiliate who is organising the massive UK World Tour event in Bolton at the end of the month, addmitted on a recent webinar that he is one of the 'new Banners Broker Broker millionaires'. And that is after beng in the business for a mere two years or so. Kathy, my introducer, said she recently sat in a room with ten of them. So the Banners Broker millionaire really is a growing speciies.

David Hooker, who joined the corporate team a few months ago, has apparently been working in the home based business industry for some 45 years, and with some of the very leading companies, said that he has never yet come across any such business where 'EVERYONE MAKES MONEY', which possibly makes Banners unique in the industry and also explains why it apparently has a 100% retention rate. To my mind there really is a certaintly of destination with this business. For any affiliate it really is just a matter of time before they get there. And given the company has taken on a 10 year lease on the new large Manchester headquarters they are clearly set for the long haul.

For those who are not already in the business they need to just make sure they do not miss the boat on this one because otherwise I do believe they will be crying all the way to the bank."

*100% retention rate - yes, because people either haven't managed to get their money out under the 30 day money back guarantee, or just haven't had any money out of it!
*Let's hope those BB millionaires are going to pay tax on the income they have (some of them at least) so publically declared.
*Loved the line about Mr Hooker having "never come across any such business" - he's far too modest!
*Crying all the way to the bank - yes, when BB disappears with all your money.....

Whata plonker!

Talking of India, I wonder if Ms Ana Bento is still around and working for BB/Stellar Point still? Here is something I found on the Empower network:-

Banners Broker Leaders Call Update – 4th February 2013

by eliteteam | on February 5, 2013

A 40 minute call today, no Q and A. A lot asked about STP and were told to contact support as ‘this is not the call for this’

David said there was a meeting in Manchester on Wednesday but did not have any details.

David talked about the opportunity people have in front of them and the future earning potential.

Anna from India talked about finalising the new banking provider for India. Affiliates will now have the option to do a bank transfer from an Indian bank to their Indian Bank. This will make it much easier for withdrawals.

Stellar Point will within the next 48 hours open their new office in Bangalore, 24/7.

Indian affiliates were thanked for their patience

Banners Broker Elite Team update

No mention of anyone getting paid on time, but, lots of things planned for the future.

AS USUAL

Originally Posted by littleroundman

Banners Broker Elite Team update

No mention of anyone getting paid on time, but, lots of things planned for the future.

AS USUAL

AS USUAL indeed, they stopped seeling ticket trough e-wallet becouse they finaly understand that it is not real money getting from e-wallet, they are comming up with new feature to impress newly joined affiliate, there are still hundreds joinin every day.

and; there should be something we can do about this.!!

Originally Posted by man_dan

there should be something we can do about this.!!

We are.

While I don't for one second think we can save everyone, nor have we ever claimed to do so, we make a difference.

If ONE person doesn't fall victim to the Banners Broker fraud or ONE person escapes with his/her money intact, then REALSCAM.com has done what it set out to do.

"Saving" everyone or "saving" the world is not an option.

As much as we all would love to be able to say we were responsible for bringing down a HYIP ponzi fraud like Banners Broker, it ain't gonna happen.

We are up against well funded and well organized criminals AND we have no legal powers or standing.

Personally, I think, given the circumstances, we all do a bloody good job.

Originally Posted by littleroundman

We are.

While I don't for one second think we can save everyone, nor have we ever claimed to do so, we make a difference.

If ONE person doesn't fall victim to the Banners Broker fraud or ONE person escapes with his/her money intact, then REALSCAM.com has done what it set out to do.

"Saving" everyone or "saving" the world is not an option.

As much as we all would love to be able to say we were responsible for bringing down a HYIP ponzi fraud like Banners Broker, it ain't gonna happen.

We are up against well funded and well organized criminals AND we have no legal powers or standing.

Personally, I think, given the circumstances, we all do a bloody good job.

Which software do you use for canned speeches?

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Originally Posted by littleroundman

Banners Broker Elite Team update

No mention of anyone getting paid on time, but, lots of things planned for the future.

AS USUAL

You'd think someone would have fixed that wrong bbtour URL on there by now, but no.
Mr Hyon of South Korea must be scratching his head at why he's got all these foreign hits to his website lately!

Has anyone got access to talkingbb?

If so can you let me know please? Need some snooping done.

Greetings, everybody, looks like the Banners Broker juggernaut has spread north to Hervey Bay, QLD Australia...
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Paypal won't like to be involved in money laundering.

That's for sure!

I see Mr Stern is appearing on various other blogs and seems to be starting the 'blogging war' as referred in earlier posts.

Instead of a blogging war, why not do some genuine PR. i.e. get hold of some of the big financial newspapers, advertising industry periodicals etc. and tell them the whole story. Surely this is the type of business that could get talked about given its massive growth in the last 3 years. Not only would that help the reputation and add credibility to Banners Broker but it would also be some great advertising for it!

Surely a PR guru would/ should realise that the way Banners Broker conduct their business is condusive to these conclusions/ assumptions being reached?

In fact surely, rather than create a new public relations company (aka Stellar Point, aka Banners Broker Ltd etc) it would have been better to employ a genuine PR company to act on their behalf!

Originally Posted by hendyphilhendy

In fact surely, rather than create a new public relations company (aka Stellar Point, aka Banners Broker Ltd etc) it would have been better to employ a genuine PR company to act on their behalf!

I've often thought there is no more valuable asset to those behind a HYIP ponzi fraud than an "enthusiastic amateur" like Terry Stern.

No one could possibly mistake Mr Stern for the stereotypical fast talking conman people tend to associate with fraud.

Reading around the usual suspect forums and blogs, it is apparent a large number of Banners Broker member/victims see him as a genuine "PR person" believer and don't suspect for a minute those behind Banners Broker have made him the designated fall guy for what's about to happen.

Originally Posted by littleroundman

I've often thought there is no more valuable asset to those behind a HYIP ponzi fraud than an "enthusiastic amateur" like Terry Stern.

No one could possibly mistake Mr Stern for the stereotypical fast talking conman people tend to associate with fraud.

Reading around the usual suspect forums and blogs, it is apparent a large number of Banners Broker member/victims see him as a genuine "PR person" believer and don't suspect for a minute those behind Banners Broker have made him the designated fall guy for what's about to happen.

One can only hope that Terry Stern ends up with the same fate as Matt Gagnon....

Legisi HYIP Pitchman Matthew John Gagnon Pleads Guilty, Admits He Didn’t Disclose ‘Touting’ Compensation Of More Than $1 Million And Caused More Than $7 Million In Losses

That poor lad who thought he had a job was more depressing than the usual crap they do. This is someone who has gone out of their way to look for a job and presumably is in need of one and BB will crap all over him. People will probably work a few weeks, not get paid and in the meantime have lost benefits. Absolute scumballs.

Originally Posted by hendyphilhendy

I see Mr Stern is appearing on various other blogs and seems to be starting the 'blogging war' as referred in earlier posts.

Instead of a blogging war, why not do some genuine PR. i.e. get hold of some of the big financial newspapers, advertising industry periodicals etc. and tell them the whole story. Surely this is the type of business that could get talked about given its massive growth in the last 3 years. Not only would that help the reputation and add credibility to Banners Broker but it would also be some great advertising for it!

Surely a PR guru would/ should realise that the way Banners Broker conduct their business is condusive to these conclusions/ assumptions being reached?

In fact surely, rather than create a new public relations company (aka Stellar Point, aka Banners Broker Ltd etc) it would have been better to employ a genuine PR company to act on their behalf!

Ignoring the fact that he's trying to defend a ponzi for a minute, Stern has to be one of, if not the worst PR man I've ever come across. Seriously, I've never seen such a shambolic farce in all my life, the bit where he loses the plot and starts ranting about people coming after him is comedy gold.

I'll bet he thought he was just going to turn up here and on Finchsells and everyone would be won over by his fabulous explanation and be convinced of how wonderful BB and its messianic leader are. One can only come to the conclusion that he either has zero PR experience, or that he assumed that everyone out here in the real world is as naive and gullible as those who have sunk their savings into the scam already.

Either way all he did was expose himself as no more of a "PR professional" than BB is a legitimate business. I'd love to be a fly on the wall when this all blows up and he has to explain it to the elders at his lodge.

Originally Posted by Theseus

Ignoring the fact that he's trying to defend a ponzi for a minute, Stern has to be one of, if not the worst PR man I've ever come across. Seriously, I've never seen such a shambolic farce in all my life, the bit where he loses the plot and starts ranting about people coming after him is comedy gold.

I'll bet he thought he was just going to turn up here and on Finchsells and everyone would be won over by his fabulous explanation and be convinced of how wonderful BB and its messianic leader are. One can only come to the conclusion that he either has zero PR experience, or that he assumed that everyone out here in the real world is as naive and gullible as those who have sunk their savings into the scam already.

Either way all he did was expose himself as no more of a "PR professional" than BB is a legitimate business. I'd love to be a fly on the wall when this all blows up and he has to explain it to the elders at his lodge.

His PR title was just an attempt to give him some credibility, imo. It was never about PR it was about internet warfare. Mr Stern came across as way too angry and desperate for someone starting out in PR in a new company. We now know he took to talking to himself on Finchsells ( Stern and Grant) and it looked to me like he was doing the same in MME ( buckyuk's forum) as himself and moneymaker, again imo. PR is not cloning and talking to yourself about the net, when you do, it's merely an exercise in damage limitation, PR is futile as it's already too late.

Rajivs Facebook page that was at http://www.facebook.com/therajivdixit has been deleted within the past couple of weeks, and he is going under a different name at his old baldindian page https://www.facebook.com/thebaldindian

Just to show it did exist - only have these cache images, no logged in screenshots unfortunately, but there wasn't a lot on this page anyhow.

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