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    Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

    Quote Originally Posted by scamassassin007 View Post
    YOu have been wrong many times. You recently claimed that BBI was in Belize.
    Where did i ever claim that BBI is in Belize? since day one i claimed only Canada while everybody was trying to find some banana islands on the map, and still do.

    Maybe sometimes you miss understand things i said ?, do you understand what "quoting others" mean? as an example or as an irony , or i noticed something specific about you, you never even read what other say, or pick only parts out of it.

    Please show me all parts i was wrong about in this thread ? better not do it here but pick someone (technical enough) to review all i ever said in this thread to get an independent opinion, because you have hard time understanding simplest things which i even told you in PMs, you still do not get them and i just do not know how to explain it more easy for you.

    When you pick those things i was wrong about, please do not include things which I specifically said "i think", "i believe", "perhaps" (or can even include those i will explain each, just want to minimize your work) or anything which was meant as an irony , portraying it as Chris/Raj/etc words or a clear sarcasm.

    I will admit which things i was wrong about,
    unlike you , with you i am not even sure if you understand most simplistic things i tried to explain you or you brain just explodes to read my bad-english sentences and blocks your mind or you just would never ever admit when you were wrong.

    PS: or do not want to bring the list, pick one thing i was wrong about and did not admit it or corrected it later.
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    Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

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    Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

    @ NikSam,

    Let's just agree to join forces and go after Banners Broker and all the current scammers involved.




    My focus in on putting the spotlight on Banners Broker

    How about you except my challenge and find some discrepancies on BB's current propaganda.
    I (WE) could really use the help...


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    Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

    NikSam/ScamAssassin007,

    Contrary to what LRM said about us not being hall-monitors it's getting tedious. Focus on the matter at hand and tone down the arguing a little.

    This is a warning.

    Thanks

    Jason

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    Quote Originally Posted by scamassassin007 View Post
    @ NikSam,

    Let's just agree to join forces and go after Banners Broker and all the current scammers involved




    My focus in on putting the spotlight on Banners Broker

    How about you except my challenge and find some discrepancies on their current propaganda.
    I could really use the help...

    Sorry , i Cannot, you publicly accused me on multiple occasions, we tried to work it out in private, you just do not even read or fail to understand my explanations.

    You accused me here please mind to bring facts, or a fact.

    It is very possible i was wrong on something and never corrected it after, not out of ignorance or ego (as you call it), but just if it was absolutely not important part and i honestly do not remember it.
    Bring it up, if i was wrong and did not admit it or corrected – i will apologize.

    @Poyol, sorry for doing this, you would do the same.

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    Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

    The Isle of Man Court case:
    Banners Broker International Limited has been liquidated!

    Paul Appleton and Miles Benham have been appointed joint liquidators..

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    Can someone loan Ribshaw about 2-FIDDY till Friday? I expect to get you back wif muh next Payza payment that Alan, "I AM JEST AN AFFILIATE" Shills seems to think is money in the bank.

    The link at the bottom may not be BB Spin factory approved, "PASSIVEGROWTH".

    Alan.Sills.PassiveGrowth.jpg

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    Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

    Quote Originally Posted by harrison View Post
    the isle of man court case:
    Banners broker international limited has been liquidated!

    Paul appleton and miles benham have been appointed joint liquidators..:rps_smile:

    great news!

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    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post
    If I was dealing with the issue as in: Beacons' arrogant, nit picking and pedantic behaviour is an issue, I would use my admin privileges to ban you or give you some time out.
    And if you did that you would be abusing your authority as an Administrator. Clearly the subject was whether RS should go beyond just an opinion on whether something is or isn't a scam. I offered my analysis on that point. If you found my position arrogant then that is your problem.

    If you ban me because of your subjective opinion that I am arrogant then you are sadly lacking the ability to deal with an issue subjectively.
    There's no rational way of dealing with the Beacon tactic of passive aggressive double entendre wordplay, so I long ago decided not to bother.
    That is self contradictory
    1. You didnt ignore me you directly contradicted me. I made the point about RS should support prosecutions and that we know certain people who profited from BB and you directly contradicted this. So you can not now claim you gave up arguing with me when you both started the argument and continued it!

    2. As regards your personal attacks in me and suggestions that I am "passive aggressive" or "arrogant" ( both of which even if true are ad hominem i.e. attacking the person rather I than the issue raised BY YOU) I have you know that I have no personal issues about you in this. i do however have my reputation and my dignity and it is personally hurtful that you continue to insist that I am either arrogant or passive aggressive. I don't claim to be perfect and do not think I am arrogant. I do have a neurological disorder and tend to be pedantic but that in no way makes me either "passive aggressive" or "arrogant".

    I don't think resorting to offensive personal remarks or trying to downplay the relevance of my argument on the basis of the way it was phrased befit an administrator.

    If I insulted you ( and ther is no evidence anywhere that I made any such personal attack on you or anyone else) I certainly did not intend to do so. I very very rarely make personal remarks and I submit whenever I do it is ALWAYS in response to personal attacks made on myself or others. But in this case I made no such personal remarks.

    3. To suggest I am indulging in wordplay is to suggest that I am wrong and trying to cloud the issue. But I was quite clear about the issue. It is that we DO know about people who were involved in organising this scam and we SHOULD come down on the side of them being brought to justice. If you disagree with me on that I submit your position is your opinion but mine is supported with factual evidence and not arrogance.


    HINT: If your aim is to be effective, rather than having a need to be "right" try engaging in a discussion without using weasel words such as "it seems" or "appears" without including the words "to ME"
    I have some academic experience in this field. The reason for using words like "seems" or "appears" is because one is EXPLORING an issue rather than making a factual claim. we can see this in for example scientific writings in history where they discuss what "seems like" "springiness" of gasses. They later derive the term "air pressure" and later come up with accurate gas laws.
    Suggesting that I use words like "seems" because I am trying to weasel my way out by later changing a claim is both specious reasoning and unfair attribution and and attack on my academic credibility.
    In fact in the last few days I believe I explained that I rarely make claims and if I make claims I support them or withdraw them. NB If I cant show I am correct in a claim I withdraw it. If I don't make a claim I use words like "seems". In fact this assists in developing the discussion and it isn't used by me as a tactic. Although Im prepared to accept that because I dont make claims I am rarely wrong and people could view my reticence to make claims as a tactic to avoid being wrong when in fact it is a common discipline in writing and scholarship to be certain when you make an assertion and to be sure you provide support for any assertion.

    My assertion that "we know" who are involved in BB was supported with evidence.
    Your counter that we dont know was unsupported opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beacon View Post
    And if you did that you would be abusing your authority as an Administrator.
    Incorrect. Mods/Admins have the final word - LRM can use his discretion as and when he wants.

    Now let that be the end of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poyol View Post
    Incorrect. Mods/Admins have the final word - LRM can use his discretion as and when he wants.

    Now let that be the end of it.
    Hmmm
    Please read my PM to you on this and repost that PM if you decide to ban me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beacon View Post
    Hmmm
    Please read my PM to you on this and repost that PM if you decide to ban me.
    For the purpose of transparency nobody has threatened to ban anybody.
    I simply stated that Moderators/Administrators have the final say - we do not ban/censor under normal circumstances.

    This thread seems to be spiralling into anarchy and I am reigning it in; the ad hominem, passive aggression etc. is all fine and dandy in moderate amounts but everyone is at each other's throats, now is the time to stop.

    Hope this clears things up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poyol View Post
    For the purpose of transparency nobody has threatened to ban anybody.
    I simply stated that Moderators/Administrators have the final say - we do not ban/censor under normal circumstances.

    This thread seems to be spiralling into anarchy and I am reigning it in; the ad hominem, passive aggression etc. is all fine and dandy in moderate amounts but everyone is at each other's throats, now is the time to stop.

    Hope this clears things up.
    Amen!!! This thread "seems" to have drifted way off-topic!
    It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!

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    [QUOTE=Poyol;67002]For the purpose of transparency nobody has threatened to ban anybody.
    what does "If I was dealing with the issue as in: Beacons' arrogant, nit picking and pedantic behaviour is an issue, I would use my admin privileges to ban you" mean then?
    the ad hominem, passive aggression etc. is all fine and dandy in moderate amounts
    If I attacked anyone please show me where and I am happy to say I am sorry for that. Likewise with respect to "passive aggressive" I am not out to get at anything but the truth and if people think I am personally attacking them I assure you all I am not. Im actualy delighted for ANYONE who cares to point out to me in PM or in public ANYWHERE where I made an unprovoked personal attack then and Ill also be happy to apologise for it but I can assure you I had no such intentions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poyol View Post
    For the purpose of transparency nobody has threatened to ban anybody.
    what does "If I was dealing with the issue as in: Beacons' arrogant, nit picking and pedantic behaviour is an issue, I would use my admin privileges to ban you" mean then?


    If I attacked anyone please show me where and I am happy to say I am sorry for that. Likewise with respect to "passive aggressive" I am not out to get at anything but the truth and if people think I am personally attacking them I assure you all I am not. Im actualy delighted for ANYONE who cares to point out to me in PM or in public ANYWHERE where I made an unprovoked personal attack then and Ill also be happy to apologise for it but I can assure you I had no such intentions.
    Beacon,

    The post wasn't aimed at you; but everyone in general.

    If the ad hominem doesn't apply to you ignore it.

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    Wake up people!
    Banners broker has been liquidated and all you can do is scrap!

    Why aren't you celebrating?

    Isn't this what we've been fighting for, otherwise whats the point????

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    Quote Originally Posted by HARRISON View Post
    Wake up people!
    Banners broker has been liquidated and all you can do is scrap!

    Why aren't you celebrating?

    Isn't this what we've been fighting for, otherwise whats the point????
    I agree Harrison. However, can someone explain what it actually means, in practical terms?

    And is BB Mobile affected, or do you think that it is BB's way of carrying on, but under another name (while actually the same company)?

    I'm not arguing here, just trying to find out what it all means as I am no expert!

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    Hi , new to Realscam , but have put money into BB, long given up the ghost there though. What does this liquidation mean? Is it just in the Isle of Man ?. I have a funny feeling that this is not going to mean a whole lot in the overall scheme of things ,that BB will just keep going on as it is .Is this really just a damp squib ,a meaningless liquidation or will it hit BB worldwide with the whole thing having to close down?Thanks.

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    Migration document attached (I hope) - enjoy



    I think what would be really useful is if someone would indicate what difference the liquidation of BBI will make (if any) to those who are pursuing - or wish to pursue - chargebacks from BB.

    Let's keep it simple eh guys?


    Attached Files Attached Files

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    Quote Originally Posted by HARRISON View Post
    Wake up people!
    Banners broker has been liquidated and all you can do is scrap!

    Why aren't you celebrating?

    Isn't this what we've been fighting for, otherwise whats the point????
    Tara, there are not enough news to be celebrating.
    Liquidation would have happened with or without those lawyers, difference is who was appointed as a liquidator.
    There are no news on any assets found in IoM or which next step lawyers will take, perhaps go to canadians.
    at this point it can be just "lawyers got in possession of $150 shelf company which right away got liquidated and had no penny in it`s name, and even Chris did not care about that company"
    Let see when there are more news and hope that "6 millions in IoM bank in BBI name" is not just a rumor.
    But if there is $6m it is less than a penny on a dollar for all victims.
    Those things never get solved that easy, lets wait for news.

    But lets hope it's #1 major step in demise of this scam.
    Last edited by NikSam; 02-26-2014 at 05:24 PM.

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    Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

    I can confirm what Tara said.

    I have just seen an email from the legal firm.

    This is GOOD NEWS no matter how you look at it.

    Finally, something is being done.

    It's Official



    The battle is not over yet, but this is a major victory for sure.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Poyol View Post
    For the purpose of transparency nobody has threatened to ban anybody.
    I simply stated that Moderators/Administrators have the final say - we do not ban/censor under normal circumstances.

    This thread seems to be spiralling into anarchy and I am reigning it in; the ad hominem, passive aggression etc. is all fine and dandy in moderate amounts but everyone is at each other's throats, now is the time to stop.

    Hope this clears things up.
    Posts between Beacon and LRM should be split into a separate topic in the rants folder....

    Just my opinion....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beacon View Post
    So what? Either you are claiming
    1. Someone else we don't know about was involved at a higher level or
    2. whoever was involved we may never know
    Exactly and I would claim the same thing......

    Only a fool would believe that any of the names posted in this thread are actually the ones behind this scam......
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    If the letter from the lawyers is not confidential, someone please post it.

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