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    Quote Originally Posted by whatthe View Post
    Here are a couple of screen grabs with a couple of replies the news that BB IOM went into liquidation that BBI was struck off and now is a secret name, from our old friends Jamie Waters and Iain "Tech Admin" Sherriff.

    I think you can all guess the theme of their posts, it seems the new Banners Broker Catchphrase is "It was voluntary" !!!

    Also seems that we are now drones, blindly following our leaders wish for more traffic, now that's what I call ironic !!

    Anyways it's bedtime here for me, so night, night, sleep tight, don't let them bed drones bite !!!

    Dig your holes a bit deeper boys, when (not if) when the police catch up with you, you will not have a leg to stand on.

    This is not how legitimate businesses are run.

    If you're reading this website for the first time this is what you need to focus on. LEGITIMATE BUSINESSES do not suddenly change their names and operate in secrecy because of what is published on websites like this.

    SCAMS do
    PONZIS do

    Guess what.... BANNERS BROKER in whatever name they call themselves is a SCAM/PONZI and is ILLEGAL




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    Quote Originally Posted by Della Cate View Post

    But there used to be a saying, "There's lies, there's damned lies; and there's Sun exclusives".
    Here is another
    "There are lies, damned lies; and what Chris Smith says."
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    You can of course substitute any BB executive for Chris Smith. I feel a bit unfair using the word "executive" since as far as I know no BB management has ever shown any sign of having any training education or experience in management, business, law , accountancy, marketing, advertising or any other field related to their so called "business".

    The strength of their lies however lie in the way they seed them with facts and truth. For example they might refer to the terrible events in Gaza and Iraq and the fact that two plus two is four and then say you can depend on them to pay out all the affiliates.

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    xxxx xxxxxy Duncan Wood said to hang in there
    August 10 at 11:00pm · Like
    xxxxx xxxx Who he
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    xxxx xxxxxxy He is one of the top guys in UK have known him for over ten years so I trust his judgement.
    Ha! Ha! Ha! So Funny!!

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    I wouldn't be at all surprised if Chris didn't bother to turn up for this weeks scaminar.

    If Simon Stepsys or Mark Ghobril are involved it's 100% a SCAM!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beacon View Post
    You can of course substitute any BB executive for Chris Smith. I feel a bit unfair using the word "executive" since as far as I know no BB management has ever shown any sign of having any training education or experience in management, business, law , accountancy, marketing, advertising or any other field related to their so called "business".
    Building on Beacon's comments, since it is pretty obvious this thread is must reading for many Banners Broker Affiliates, might I suggest some of y'all running background checks on Chris Smith and Raj Dixit. Not talking about one of the cheapo online services where you will likely be out another $30. Hire a competent local PI to do some digging, a few of you could always team up to pay their bill. Then when they are done you will have a nice file to turn over to the authorities.

    As an alternative ask Jamie Waters, Mark Gerbil, or Alan Shills to reimburse you for the expense AFTER you have run the report. Don't let them tell you they will handle it as at this point we must assume either they are really f'ing stupid, or complicit. Since they are owed millions, largely coming from your sign up fees, I don't see why this expense would not be honored.



    Quote Originally Posted by Beacon View Post
    The strength of their lies however lie in the way they seed them with facts and truth. For example they might refer to the terrible events in Gaza and Iraq and the fact that two plus two is four and then say you can depend on them to pay out all the affiliates.
    Many times when scams come apart victims will find that the perpetrators have had a lifetime of grifting, and numerous unpaid judgements. Case and point ICF World Homes run by Raj Dixit left people owed millions, with all the same promises and then excuses. What more do people need to know they are being played the very same way?

    I wonder if these affiliates realize this is one of let's call it 1000 ponzi/pyramid schemes running at any one time both on and offline? The actual number may be much higher, but Banners Broker is not the only program using excuses like these while not paying. They ALL do when the money runs out, affiliates need only look at some current and failed programs in this forum to see if it walks like a duck.
    "It's virtually impossible to violate rules ... but it's impossible for a violation to go undetected, certainly not for a considerable period of time." Bernie Madoff
    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Scam-...98399986981403

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    There's no blog on official BB site today?!

    Has Chris Smith thrown in the towel and party is officially over for BB victims and it's pimps?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ribshaw View Post

    Many times when scams come apart victims will find that the perpetrators have had a lifetime of grifting, and numerous unpaid judgements. Case and point ICF World Homes run by Raj Dixit left people owed millions, with all the same promises and then excuses. What more do people need to know they are being played the very same way?

    I wonder if these affiliates realize this is one of let's call it 1000 ponzi/pyramid schemes running at any one time both on and offline? The actual number may be much higher, but Banners Broker is not the only program using excuses like these while not paying. They ALL do when the money runs out, affiliates need only look at some current and failed programs in this forum to see if it walks like a duck.
    I am certainly not defending Dixit, but you give Raj too much credit. ICF World Homes was owned and run by Larry Telford and Sharon Black, Raj had nothing to do with operations of the company. He was involved in training and helped affiliates with meetings, etc. ICF also never made it big - capped at about 7,000 members before shutting down. As scams go this one isn't in the top 100 scams.

    However, he did learn a lot in how to run a scam which knowledge he used with BBI to his advantage, enough to pay cash for a new home, an industrial unit and get a divorce.

    Re - your comment on Ponziz, just look at the MMG forum (one of many like that) and you'll see new scams starting almost on a daily basis, and this is funny, every one claiming it is run by honest and trusted administrators. Then 6 months later they shut down and start a new one and it is unbelievable how many gullible people there are out there who keep joining these and following these same scammers from one scam to another.

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    Thanks to Koko V. over the BB Ponzi Scam FB page.............popcorn at the ready, please, here is the latest webinar for your delectation:-


    BB Friday Q&A Webinar 8/22/14

    Chris Smith speaking:

    Welcome to the Friday webinar. Let's go over a few updates. Ron is on holidays and will be back next week, so I'm covering for him today.

    Let's talk about the newsletter that was supposed to go out last week. It hasn't gone out becasue of the large size of the userlist, which required opt-in verification. Previous ones have gone out with a smaller list size, but our list is large, which has delayed the sending of the newsletter. I have it in front of me, and we'll go over a few points:

    New focus on social media. (Chris explains this - please see the replay) This will generate more traffic, which will generate more ad revenue. This will be mentioned in the new presentation.

    Compression has been completed, so we are now looking at the next era. It is unfortunate that we have not been able to pay the payouts to go along with this.

    We have passed compliance with our new payout processor. This will take a little bit of time due to the complexity of this. We do need to be very careful with this. The partner that has agreed to work with us, we are very grateful and happy with them. We will give you updates as soon as we can as to the timeline.

    There was a mini video put together about the Trinidad tour. It is in your back office now.

    Admin fees have been waived for another 30 days, during the time we are waiting on the payment processor is brought on board. We are doing what we can on our end to make this easier for all members.

    Let's take a look at the questions today.

    I normally don't do this, but I will take a couple of LIVE calls for questions, if you want to raise your hand. Please keep your questions short.

    Geneology of BB Mobile. BB Mobile was not subject to the opt-in period, it is a stand-alone system. Everyone had a chance to start off with BB Mobile and utilize it with their team. If the team didn't opt-in or start BB Mobile, they would be removed from your downline, but could join at any time. So that all happened before BB v3. So there is no compression to do there.

    Payment provider? has the legal department given their blessing? the answer is yes to that.

    Lots of questions about timeframes. You know the danger of timeframes. There is a list of items that needs to be completed. Items on our side and on the other side. We have no control over the item on the processor side, so it's not easy to give a timeline. It is NOT going to be several months. I'm hoping for it to be sooner rather than later. We just need to make sure it's ready to go and tested and everything done according to spec and a smooth operation.

    Will there be a card with the new processor? The primary mechanism will not be a card. It will be a direct bank deposit.

    Does new partner has a proven track record? it has been in business for 10 to 13 years. Over 40,000 different merchants are onboard with that processor, other programs, other network marketing programs, other payroll, etc. they have a good track record.

    Couple questions on World eWallet. Unfortunately they have their own challenges. In hindsight, at the time it looked like a good time to make our announcement about WeW, but there is nothing against the WeW team, we just need to put another processor in motion. WeW may be an option at a later date. We had high hopes, but this is out of our control.

    We are delighted with our new processor and we are moving forward..

    Lots of positive comments being posted, so thank you. It does help to see that amid all the hoopla. We have 100's of people on the call and it's delightful to see good comments. We are not sugarcoating anything. We are happy to have our new provider, but we are making sure everything is ready before proceeding. Please help us out with the comments on the Internet. We are here for a very long time. I am here, week after week, making sure we are able to get through. There's been alot of pressure, it has been challenging. Who knows, maybe this is a test. Whatever we do, we will do together.

    Taking LIVE calls for questions (please see replay for this part, I will try to summarize if possible)

    Question about Telephone support: Regarding this, the Belize number is available and LIVE. The UK and the US number have been removed for the moment, until we can find a more cost effective provider for this. We are sourcing out different providers. The cost was becoming astronommical, so we are looking for a better solution.

    BB Mobile? For those who did not signup during the original signup period, is their BB username available still or should they use a new username? The previous accounts have been purged, so you can sign up as a new affiliate and use any username you want. But I think the program has blocked the "old" account so that a "new" account must be set up. I will verify this and put the answer in a Tweet.

    Positive comment from Mark Ghobril about Chris' leadership and about BB (see replay for details)

    What is being done to further protect us from the Internet noise as it relates to the new processor?

    Chris speaking:

    Great question, and thanks for your comment. A lot of leaders have reached out. I know I am not always able to be responsive, but I'm so thankful for the help of Ron Anderson. If I don't respond to emails and messages, please know that I am not ignoring you, I am just very busy with everything in the background.

    The processor will be a "white label" solution for our protection. We will try as hard as we can to do this properly and switftly. We hope that we are prepared for everything that may happen down the line so that we can continue on. We have high hopes that this processor solution will work out. (please see replay for exact words)

    Mark asked a question about how BB is prepared for the influx of new affiliates, etx.

    Chris: We have people in place to handle this. We are also trying to attract new talent to be sure we are building a solid structure to be prepared for the future.

    Just to touch on the communications standpoint, we have some assistance for Ron Anderson coming on board. Communication needs to be more robust. We know this, but we need to put this all together properly from a technical standpoint. Focusing on social media, as well as our support system. Staff has been updated with continual training to make sure the staff is up to speed.

    Marlon (from Trinidad) made some very positive comments pertaining to BB's future. (Please see the replay for details and exact words)

    Chris: We appreciate everyone. The faith and positivity coming from everyone is awesome. Have yourself an awesome weekend and keep up the good work.

    (end of webinar)
    (Summary notes prepared by Linda Lane and are not meant to be official BB transcripts. Please include this with all repostings.)

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    This is the house that Julie Templeton wants to buy ( or may have brought already?) when she gets all her 'earnings' from BB:
    JULIES NEW HOUSE.JPG

    And this is her explaining how WeW will help her pay for it!
    JULIE TEMPLETON.JPG

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    OH DEAR,

    if I'm reading it correctly, Julie had the house at some stage and is banking on her Banners Broker earnings to get it back again.

    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing

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    'Allegedly' of course.

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    This is her post today on the BB FB page. POOR Chrissy is under SO much pressure. Its tough being a grade A scammer isn't it.

    julie fb bb.JPG

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    Quote Originally Posted by HARRISON View Post
    This is her post today on the BB FB page. POOR Chrissy is under SO much pressure. Its tough being a grade A scammer isn't it.

    julie fb bb.JPG
    Ah, bless, poor little Smiffy!

    And Ms Templeton sounds quite, quite charming, doesn't she??

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    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post
    OH DEAR,

    if I'm reading it correctly, Julie had the house at some stage and is banking on her Banners Broker earnings to get it back again.

    I kind of suspect she is in for a long wait.

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    One question I would be asking if I were an affiliate is:

    Why is Rob Pirie using the fake name Ron Anderson?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Char View Post
    One question I would be asking if I were an affiliate is:

    Why is Rob Pirie using the fake name Ron Anderson?
    And appearing in public with a ridiculous nylon wig on his head.

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    I'm sorry, I don't understand this. Please can someone explain what a "white label" processor is?

    The processor will be a "white label" solution for our protection. We will try as hard as we can to do this properly and switftly. We hope that we are prepared for everything that may happen down the line so that we can continue on. We have high hopes that this processor solution will work out.

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    I had a look at Julie Templeton's Facebook page. This lady is an "Internet marketer" aka scammer peddling a bunch of other crap too. She is NOT an ignorant BB affiliate and knows EXACTLY what she is doing. The whole house thing is just dangling the "dream carrot".

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    "The cost was becoming astronommical..." - you right Chris...with all the chargebacks and oncoming chargebacks on your shoulder even paying for web hosting will be soon a fortune..... and with white label solution you might becoming a real astronaut...or even white astronaut ...you never know
    Instead of loving people and using money, people often love money and use people

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    Quote Originally Posted by HARRISON View Post
    This is the house that Julie Templeton wants to buy ( or may have brought already?) when she gets all her 'earnings' from BB:
    JULIES NEW HOUSE.JPG

    And this is her explaining how WeW will help her pay for it!
    JULIE TEMPLETON.JPG

    ????
    When excuse train leaves the station, even the cheerleaders/pimps get stiffed on the $.
    Does she really think she will EVER see even .001% of her BB millions?
    They NEVER restart more than a token payments.

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    " Lots of positive comments being posted, so thank you " -- to know exactly what does it mean,let me tell you a small part of the Ottoman Empire history - more precisely it was the time of Suleiman the Magnificent - very mighty and cruel monarch .He had many servants around obeying every single word he sad.When a servant did his task excellent and very fast,the sultan had attitude to say - I am very happy with,you can ask from me whatever you want - The servant always answered fast as possible - Thank you my Lord, serving you is the best gift I can get from you, your highness.
    Instead of loving people and using money, people often love money and use people

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    Even the fools aka most enthusiastic BB members are starting to panic on no pay.
    Most of them are veterans of the $ games...yet scam after scam have huge amounts of $ owed.
    Same crew making themelves look stupid @BB did the samewith ProfitableSunrise,etc.

    The pimps who are good at it aka Simon are LONG gone. BB was 3-6 schemes ago.

    As "good" of a long con as BB has been...Chris did make a HUGE error in getting that $6 million seized.
    IMO BB would have shut down by now if he had his getaway $.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Della Cate View Post
    I'm sorry, I don't understand this. Please can someone explain what a "white label" processor is?

    The processor will be a "white label" solution for our protection. We will try as hard as we can to do this properly and switftly. We hope that we are prepared for everything that may happen down the line so that we can continue on. We have high hopes that this processor solution will work out.
    Della, I wondered the same thing, then I had a genius plan, google! So I googled and guess what, there are companies all over the place offering 'white label' solutions for businesses! Yesiree, some offering a 3 day turnaround to set businesses up. Who would have thought it. Poor exhausted, stressed, pleading Chris never thought to google!

    That said, from what I can gather, it is more designed for business to collect payments for services or goods sold (? sorry, just not as tech savvy as Chris and could be wrong) so not sure about the system designed to pay money OUT, not just in, something I am sure wouldn't upset Smiffy too much.

    Other more informed opinions very welcome!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HARRISON View Post
    This is the house that Julie Templeton wants to buy ( or may have brought already?) when she gets all her 'earnings' from BB:
    JULIES NEW HOUSE.JPG

    And this is her explaining how WeW will help her pay for it!
    JULIE TEMPLETON.JPG
    I think Julie is just trying to be clever using the words ' back ' and ' again ' referring to the house. Nice wording to create an impression.

    However, Julie can of course take her BB and other scam income details down to her local bank Manager whom I'm sure would be happy to lend her the money to secure ' again ' her house It is such a sure thing after all !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fat City, LA View Post
    ????
    When excuse train leaves the station, even the cheerleaders/pimps get stiffed on the $.
    Does she really think she will EVER see even .001% of her BB millions?
    They NEVER restart more than a token payments.
    Ass covering comments IMO in a concerted effort to keep the wolves ( her downline ) from the door. Bog standard scam talk to keep momentum going in preparation for her shock horror, never saw that coming excuses when realisation hits with those foolish enough to give her their money.

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