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    Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

    @balancedview might I suggest we go back to discussing Banners Broker.

    What are the key factors that make you think this is a genuine business?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hendyphilhendy View Post
    @balancedview might I suggest we go back to discussing Banners Broker.

    What are the key factors that make you think this is a genuine business?
    At the risk of sounding like an extra from Eastenders "Leave it, Phil he's not worth it"

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    Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

    A guy call Adrian Hibbert is in danger of having his account locked

    Banners Broker on Twitter

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    If Simon Stepsys or Mark Ghobril are involved it's 100% a SCAM!

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    Quote Originally Posted by noname999 View Post
    Hi Balanced. Just curious. You are saying you made an investment in BB?
    @Balanced: I think you may have missed my post as they are coming thick and fast! Just looking for clarification. thanks.
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    Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

    Quote Originally Posted by BalancedView View Post
    What're all the derogatory remarks and references on this forum about?
    I list 'Paddy', shills, pimps, etc as examples.
    Anyone would think that you (as in the collective, or plural) were BITTER!
    This mode of delivery debases your arguments.
    Ummn, no.

    In the opinion of some random internet poster who uses the pseudonym "BalancedView" the usage of such terms "debases arguments"

    As for using the terms "shills" and "pimps."

    In your opinion, what should we be calling posters who pimp HYIP ponzi programs and act as a shill for the programs' owners ???

    Shill

    A shill, plant, or stooge is a person who publicly helps a person or organization without disclosing that he has a close relationship with that person
    pimp: to pimp is to advertise (generally, in an enthusiastic sense) or to call attention in order to bring acclaim to something; to promote.
    The term "derogatory" is yours and yours alone.

    A shill is a shill and a pimp is a pimp.
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    Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

    Quote Originally Posted by hendyphilhendy View Post
    @balancedview might I suggest we go back to discussing Banners Broker.

    What are the key factors that make you think this is a genuine business?
    I cannot prove that it is, as you cannot prove that it isn't. It may be very progressive, or not. You will not see me use racist or derogatory lingo, however, in relation to any group or business. I'm here only to give a little balance.

    A lot of the posts herein do lack balance, and thus come across as somewhat like a child that had lost its' rattle.

    It is many the war that was lost because of an overlooked battle.

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    Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

    It's quite possible that the radio station was so inundated after yesterday's broadcast that they have decided to take some time to look into it better (and check the legalities of saying certain things). Would also explain why your getting auto-responders now - assuming you didn't initially? - because they received so many emails.

    All hypothetical, of course. They could have just decided one airing was enough, next story please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BalancedView View Post
    I cannot prove that it is, as you cannot prove that it isn't. It may be very progressive, or not. You will not see me use racist or derogatory lingo, however, in relation to any group or business. I'm here only to give a little balance.

    A lot of the posts herein do lack balance, and thus come across as somewhat like a child that had lost its' rattle.

    It is many the war that was lost because of an overlooked battle.
    Derogatory or racist lingo has not been used - if you read my last post you'll understand.
    Trying to demean members of this forum will not get you very far - we don't appreciate it.

    Jason

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    Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

    Quote Originally Posted by BalancedView View Post
    What're all the derogatory remarks and references on this forum about?
    I list 'Paddy', shills, pimps, etc as examples.
    Anyone would think that you (as in the collective, or plural) were BITTER!
    This mode of delivery debases your arguments.
    Ok to add a bit of "balance"

    Your cohorts over on Adverts Galore (HA!) regularly call us "negative, stupid, idiots" etc Roland Rat even accused us of not having a brain.

    Does that mode of delivery debase their arguments?

    If Simon Stepsys or Mark Ghobril are involved it's 100% a SCAM!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BalancedView View Post
    I cannot prove that it is, as you cannot prove that it isn't. It may be very progressive, or not. You will not see me use racist or derogatory lingo, however, in relation to any group or business. I'm here only to give a little balance.

    A lot of the posts herein do lack balance, and thus come across as somewhat like a child that had lost its' rattle.

    It is many the war that was lost because of an overlooked battle.
    Which is why I am engaging you directly in a debate with me. Ignore the others we can have a balanced discussion!

    I can give factors why I believe it to be a non legitimate business:

    Lack of Ads in visible circulation - show us some ads to prove
    Complex/ secret business model that even the national leaders do no truly understand - proved by Paul McCarthy and his colleagues on yesterdays radio show
    Based in an unregulated country - Belize/ Canada, might be worth watching Monday's panorama. It is a haven for tax dodges but also unscrupulous business models
    Poor quality web portal for such size business - multi million pound business with inadequate web servers and lack of basic automation functions being programmed in
    Owners/ top people involved in previous scams - certainly Raj and Kul have 'history'


    These are all points open for a balanced debate. Feel free to let me know your points to this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe_Shmoe View Post
    Ok to add a bit of "balance"

    Your cohorts over on Adverts Galore (HA!) regularly call us "negative, stupid, idiots" etc Roland Rat even accused us of not having a brain.

    Does that mode of delivery debase their arguments?
    That is self-evident.
    Yes, it does.
    However, I'm not posting on that site.

    Or do you feel that I'm preaching to the converted?
    I will desist and leave if the majority of you feel that this is so.
    Six of you would tip the scales thus, being the majority.....

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    Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

    To save me having to listen to McCarthy's drivel all over again, can anyone remember how many websites they claimed to advertise on, was it 2000?

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    BalancedView - at time of writing we have 14 registered members here (including you).
    We have 112 guests.

    I'm converted - I have made my mind up through extensive research that Banners Broker is a scam.
    However, if in the end it turns out to be a legitimate business I will state that I was wrong.

    Jason

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    Quote Originally Posted by BalancedView View Post
    That is self-evident.
    Yes, it does.
    However, I'm not posting on that site.

    Or do you feel that I'm preaching to the converted?
    I will desist and leave if the majority of you feel that this is so.
    Six of you would tip the scales thus, being the majority.....
    There is an element of preaching to the converted. Most of us here have strong opinions on the system; however, it does not mean we are not open to be challenged. Don't let it put you off getting involved. I may criticise your content but I won't criticise you direct.

    In Paul's Radio interview yesterday he mentioned 2000 mid-tier sites. This was the first time I had heard about this. He mentions it again and actually names three in the secretly filmed presentation. What is your knowledger of these mid-tier sites. Do you think it would beneficial if BB named say their top 5 ranked publisher sites?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theseus View Post
    To save me having to listen to McCarthy's drivel all over again, can anyone remember how many websites they claimed to advertise on, was it 2000?
    It was indeed 2000, see here where he names a couple of them Advertising scheme boss led firm suspended for

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    Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

    And in the interests of a "balanced view"

    some research into those making the "claims" brings up:

    Jason Clark aka poyol (Links deleted - Off-Topic)

    Phil Hendy aka hendyphilhendy (Links deleted - Off-Topic)

    2 can play that game! This is war!

    If you want to start a thread, take it to: Ranting, Raving and other Ridiculous Diatribes link. This does not belong in this thread about BB.
    Last edited by EagleOne; 11-30-2012 at 06:30 AM. Reason: Off-Topic

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    Quote Originally Posted by hendyphilhendy View Post
    It was indeed 2000, see here where he names a couple of them Advertising scheme boss led firm suspended for
    Like a previous post mentioned - I can only make out "Miniclip" - I've extensively looked through Miniclip and cannot see a Banners Broker advert nor a Clicksor/Yesup ad.
    The quality of BB ads would also stick out like a sore thumb on such a highly-polished website.

    Jason

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    Quote Originally Posted by hendyphilhendy View Post
    It was indeed 2000, see here where he names a couple of them Advertising scheme boss led firm suspended for
    So, it has all of it's panels on 2000 websites and each of these panels is owned by a different member, and each of these members owns multiple panels and there are (claimed) 200,000 members?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theseus View Post
    So, it has all of it's panels on 2000 websites and each of these panels is owned by a different member, and each of these members owns multiple panels and there are (claimed) 200,000 members?
    Amazing, isn't it?
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    Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

    Let's say an average website has 5 banners on it.
    That's 2000(websites) x 5(number of banners per website) = 10,000
    10,000(total banners) / 200,000 = 0.05

    According to this very simplified calculation each member owns 0.05 panels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hendyphilhendy View Post
    It was indeed 2000, see here where he names a couple of them Advertising scheme boss led firm suspended for
    Big Claims from McCarthy on that video:

    "We are going to break every single record in the advetising industry in Ireland."

    I partly agree.

    BB will smash the record for the least number of ads on the web.

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    Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

    I think, and this may be my mis-understanding, this is what the system is in theory supposed to do:

    A panel represents and element of allowable impressions on a site
    Therefore my yellow panel represents say 5,000 impression.
    I would get 5,000 turns on that (or any other) website when a browser link is refreshed on a rotation with everyone else that has a panel
    Once my impressions are used up that panels caps and I get paid into my e-wallet

    Technically the number of impression is therefore infinite; however, I am sure website stats could be got to say how many impressions there are for some of the top ranking websites.

    It would be good if someone could clarify as I know I have been accused of not understanding the business, despite being in it for 9 months!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poyol View Post
    Let's say an average website has 5 banners on it.
    That's 2000(websites) x 5(number of banners per website) = 10,000
    10,000(total banners) / 200,000 = 0.05

    According to this very simplified calculation each member owns 0.05 panels.

    Jason

    Put it another way, how many panels does the average BB member own? Is it as low as 5, or is it in the hundreds or thousands?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hendyphilhendy View Post
    I think, and this may be my mis-understanding, this is what the system is in theory supposed to do:

    A panel represents and element of allowable impressions on a site
    Therefore my yellow panel represents say 5,000 impression.
    I would get 5,000 turns on that (or any other) website when a browser link is refreshed on a rotation with everyone else that has a panel
    Once my impressions are used up that panels caps and I get paid into my e-wallet

    Technically the number of impression is therefore infinite; however, I am sure website stats could be got to say how many impressions there are for some of the top ranking websites.

    It would be good if someone could clarify as I know I have been accused of not understanding the business, despite being in it for 9 months!
    I don't know.
    There is nowhere on the website that tells you how it works.
    Uplines don't seem to know how it works properly either.
    The ones I've dealt with try to baffle with talks of blind networks and sayings such as 'You can lead a horse to water...'

    Jason

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    Yes. Did. 6 months. No recruits. Spare cash. Withdrawing money weekly. Initial inv covered. Wondering what all the fuss is about. We're all over18, arent we?

    BalancedView awaits your response. Be objective.


    Hi BalancedView.
    Welcome to the forum.
    Do you mind me asking why you only ran your BB business for 6 months?
    Sounds like it was easy money!

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