Thread: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

The next step in education is to inform the meeting places.
If anyone has time to phone; I will collate a list.

It's be best to speak to the hotel manager about this - give them a link to the Sunday World article etc.

Village Hotel Hyde
0871 222 4586

For starters.

Jason

There was something odd about this address below when I found it, knowing where it is. What a coincidence that they happened to choose a business, whose Australian office is only 1.5km off one of my usual bike paths!! Life is strange...

Originally Posted by Hypanor

...But thanks to your post, I found this address on this website:

Australia Office
officebroker.com – Asia Pacific
Suite F5
...

Doing a bit more research, earn4advertising.com was only created, anonymously, less than 2 weeks ago:
earn4advert.jpg

Its an obvious Banners Broker recruitment site, linked to an affiliate by the name of Aporna Bhowmik (click on any of the sign-up links).
The page mentioned above shows a list of international addresses as Theseus posted (repeated below), but they are for a long established company called Officebrokers.
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Now what's really funny, is that although the site is loaded with your typical BB adverts, there are also apparent 'real' adverts, for people like the University of Adelaide, and Maserati. And adverts delivered by Google, lol!

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This doesn't really mean anything, other than to show how incompetent they are in trying to fool people.

BTW, I've let Officebrokers.com know they are being used in this way, and have sent them some lovely hi-res screenshots for proof...!

The website is well worth a read, there is some fascinating language on there - not sure what language, but here's a wee sample from p=59:

Google could possibly be the king concerning available on the web advertising allowing you to have revenues on the excess having to do with $30 billion a year. Google’s AdWords would be the fact on going to be the advertising aspect relating to going to be the equation and allows advertisers to learn more about display their advertisements in the Google articles or blog posts network,from top to bottom either a multi function cost per click or at least cost-per-view arrangement,everywhere in the search engine result pages. The twin products or services Google AdSense,all over the the publisher aspect allows website owners to learn more about display contextually sensitive ads throughout the their website, and earn money every a period of time going to be the ads are made itself known yet.

Originally Posted by EagleOne

If this is their UK company, here is their VAT information:

BANNERSBROKER UK LTD.
BOTANICAL HOUSE
15 GUYS CLIFFE ROAD
LEAMINGTON SPA
WARWICKSHIRE
CV32 5BZ
Company No. 07780124

Status: Active
Date of Incorporation: 20/09/2011

Country of Origin: United Kingdom

Company Type: Private Limited Company
Nature of Business (SIC):
None Supplied

Accounting Reference Date: 30/09
Last Accounts Made Up To: (NO ACCOUNTS FILED)
Next Accounts Due: 20/06/2013
Last Return Made Up To:
Next Return Due: 18/10/2012 OVERDUE

Previous Names: ONLINEINCOME LIMITED Date of change: 07/12/2011

The problem with BB is that you never know what they are going to claim next. The 1019 Nelson Street Address was on their website as the headquarters of BB. Raj even confirmed this in a post he made on a forum when someone was questioning the address.

Then when I posted the link of a picture of the 1019 Nelson Street address, the shills and pimps claimed this was not their corporate headquarters address but they gave a different address. Now what was really interesting is that the 1019 Nelson Street address was still shown on their website while they were claiming it was not their headquarters building. The UK office and the Irleand office were also shown on the website at one address, but when information was posted about the addresses, they claimed they were actually in a different location.

Now they claim this is their new Corporate address: Stellar Point Inc., 5 Carlow Court, Whitby, ON L1N9T7, and is what is shown on the website. Now what is really weird is that this is a factory/wharehouse type of building, not what you would expect a multi-million dollar advertising company would have as their corporate headquarters. You think it would be in a glass high-rise in the center of Ontario.

You can bet as soon as the pictures of this 5 Carlow Ct address is posted, they will be screaming and hollering this is not the headquarters building.

Seems that blows the 'we've been in business 2 years' lie out of the water.

Originally Posted by Hypanor

The website is well worth a read, there is some fascinating language on there - not sure what language, but here's a wee sample from p=59:

Google could possibly be the king concerning available on the web advertising allowing you to have revenues on the excess having to do with $30 billion a year. Google’s AdWords would be the fact on going to be the advertising aspect relating to going to be the equation and allows advertisers to learn more about display their advertisements in the Google articles or blog posts network,from top to bottom either a multi function cost per click or at least cost-per-view arrangement,everywhere in the search engine result pages. The twin products or services Google AdSense,all over the the publisher aspect allows website owners to learn more about display contextually sensitive ads throughout the their website, and earn money every a period of time going to be the ads are made itself known yet.

I know what language that is.
It'd wouldn't be polite to state it here though.

Jason

Originally Posted by Whip

Seems that blows the 'we've been in business 2 years' lie out of the water.

Whip, that's only the UK arm of the business.

Code:

Registered through: GoDaddy.com, LLC (Domain Names | The World's Largest Domain Name Registrar - Go Daddy)
   Domain Name: BANNERSBROKER.COM
      Created on: 15-Oct-10
      Expires on: 15-Oct-17
      Last Updated on: 13-Sep-12

Banners Broker domain was created on 15th Oct 2010 - so I'm assuming they've been in business since then.


You also see that Banners Broker website doesn't allow Wayback Machine views!

Jason

Originally Posted by Theseus

Looks like they've found a new way to fleece people...

Attachment 2226

Where was this posted? Surely that can't be serious!!

Code:

Friday Webinar Updates - December 07, 2012.

- New ID Approvers were hired 
- New Funding Log Tab under Ewallet. Affiliates can now see purchases, repurchases, and funding.
- Canada added to Whitelist - for Allied Wallet Credit Card processing
- UseMyServices - UMS limits: 1st: $990; 2nd: $2450/day, $7350/week USD
- UseMyServices - UMS back on track

"If this is your first transaction with UMS, you must not fund more than $990 USD. For second and subsequent times you may send a MAXIMUM of $2450 USD per day and a MAXIMUM of $7350 USD per week. There is a ZERO tolerance policy in place because large declined transactions puts our account in jeopardy. If you attempt to send more than these maximums your BB account will be closed and your package purchase will be refunded. There will be no warning."

Payouts
To be paid by Dec 20 for Christmas
STP deadline Dec 5
BB Card deadline Dec 14

USA Payout - week of Dec 10 - 14 - for verified bank accounts in our system
USA Payout - week of Dec 17 - 21 - for non-verified bank accounts in our system

India - Bank - direct bank deposit

Payza Payouts - Monday Dec 10

India World Tour - Feb 8/9/10

Originally Posted by Poyol

Whip, that's only the UK arm of the business.

Code:

Registered through: GoDaddy.com, LLC (Domain Names | The World's Largest Domain Name Registrar - Go Daddy)
   Domain Name: BANNERSBROKER.COM
      Created on: 15-Oct-10
      Expires on: 15-Oct-17
      Last Updated on: 13-Sep-12

Banners Broker domain was created on 15th Oct 2010 - so I'm assuming they've been in business since then.


You also see that Banners Broker website doesn't allow Wayback Machine views!

Jason

Ah. I see.
Didn't know wayback views can be restricted.

Originally Posted by Whip

Ah. I see.
Didn't know wayback views can be restricted.

ROBOTS.TXT can stop search engine spiders/archivers from caching a webpage.

Code:

User-agent: *
Disallow: /

Jason

Originally Posted by Theseus

Came across this....

[SNIP]

Attachment 2212

Obviously not the Banners Broker/Stellar Point HQ, so who lives here?

DYZ Media's Content Coordinator Emma Farquharson lives there... at least judging by her tweeted "view from my office" comment and accompanying photo. The photo's point of view tracks to that apartment block.

https://twitter.com/emmafarq/status/160023562911105024

By the way, Ms F has won the Stellar Point Employee of the Month award for October 2012.

https://twitter.com/emmafarq/status/277080168730873858

Well done Emma!

Want to see inside 1019 Nelson Street Oshawa?

1019 Nelson St, Oshawa, ON L1H7N9 :: The Mulholland Ross Real Estate Team

Originally Posted by Poyol

The next step in education is to inform the meeting places.
If anyone has time to phone; I will collate a list.

It's be best to speak to the hotel manager about this - give them a link to the Sunday World article etc.

Village Hotel Hyde
0871 222 4586

For starters.

Jason

Jason have you thought about assembling a list of businesses that have either supported or enabled Banners Broker, despite being warned?

For example, MasterCard would be at the top of this list. When the eventual implosion happens it would be good to have for the lawyers to focus on as adjunct fund recovery for victims.

Originally Posted by samuel.r

Jason have you thought about assembling a list of businesses that have either supported or enabled Banners Broker, despite being warned?

For example, MasterCard would be at the top of this list. When the eventual implosion happens it would be good to have for the lawyers to focus on as adjunct fund recovery for victims.

I've thought about it.
I'm supposedly trying to get other things in motion too.

Finding the time is difficult though.

Jason

I have a few names put together:

Mastercard
Citywest Hotel (I've warned them twice)
STP/Payza
Serverloft

Piece by piece by piece, a picture forms:



Corporations Canada website



StellarPoint Canada



StellarPoint Employee of the Month, Emma Farquharsons' page on Twitter

There seems to be a pattern forming of a shift away from the name Banners Broker?

i.e. uk is now AdvertsGalore
canada is now Stellar Point inc.

Are they possibly looking at a slow rebrand as the Banners Broker name is now becoming too easily linked as a scam on Google etc?

Originally Posted by hendyphilhendy

There seems to be a pattern forming of a shift away from the name Banners Broker?

i.e. uk is now AdvertsGalore
canada is now Stellar Point inc.

Are they possibly looking at a slow rebrand as the Banners Broker name is now becoming too easily linked as a scam on Google etc?

Exactly - I thought they were going to change their name to Adverts Galore a while ago.
Seems like they didn't.

Jason

Originally Posted by Poyol

I've thought about it.
I'm supposedly trying to get other things in motion too.

Finding the time is difficult though.

Jason

I have a few names put together:

Mastercard
Citywest Hotel (I've warned them twice)
STP/Payza
Serverloft

Tread carefully Jason. Unlike BB, the likes of MC are a real business. They will defend their good name. Just don't want to see you getting into hot water.

Originally Posted by noname999

Tread carefully Jason. Unlike BB, the likes of MC are a real business. They will defend their good name. Just don't want to see you getting into hot water.

They can defend their good name.
Anything I state will not be a lie.
Mastercard are still supplying One Choice Bank/Vector Card Services/Banners Broker with Prepaid services though they have been warned by countless people as to what Banners Broker is.
I am not saying they are involved in a scam - they're certainly not - just stating that the card should've been disowned by MC.

CityWest Hotel are a real business too - yet emails I have sent to their team have been ignored - and if not ignored I haven't been replied to.

Serverloft has advised me to send an email to abuse@serverloft.com - I have done this - they receive quite a few emails each day I'd imagine, so don't have time to reply to all.

Allied Wallet transcript was posted a while ago - stating they know exactly what Banners Broker are.

Jason

Originally Posted by Poyol

Payza transcript was posted a while ago - stating they know exactly what Banners Broker are.

Jason

Really, do you know where that post is?

Sorry, Noname.

I meant to say Allied Wallet: http://www.realscam.com/f8/banners-b...html#post31972

I have been following this thread as a casual observer since July this year. Whilst I was on holiday in Brighton in June I was invited to join BB. I asked for more info and was given a 24 page tutorial with similar content to the webinar given by Ian Driscoll. It gave full details of how to manage my BB account with complete details of subscriptions, banner packages, traffic packs, affiliate recruiting, macros, full costings & complementary traffic packs, etc etc.
Wow! It sounded too good to be to true and I thought it must be a scam, however, I persevered with the paperwork and did the maths based on both green & red packages and realised that the whole scheme was financed by members subscriptions, traffic packs and new members coming into the scheme. There was no need for revenue from banner advertising Members are encouraged to buy traffic “hits” for their own banners being shown on an unknown or blind website?
How does that work.?.

With 250,000 affilates the $15 monthly subs will raise $45m per year.
With one $50 traffic pack and $15 subs per month, it will raise $195m per year.
With one $100 subs and three $50 traffic packs per month, it will raise $750m per year.
So the BB income from existing members will be somewhere between $195m and 750m per year. No banner advertising is needed to keep the scheme running until payouts exceed new members “investments”
This is definitely a ponzi scheme.
Get your initial investment OUT now and play with the rest of your virtual money until the scheme collapses.
Julson, Smith, Dixit and the UK clones have already planned their exit strategy, I feel sorry for the rest of the suckers.

I think that may be a bit of a stretch J

Originally Posted by littleroundman

Piece by piece by piece, a picture forms:



Corporations Canada website

A quick search of 7250037 Canada Inc turns up an address of 14380 Montrose Rd, Welland Ontario from this website 7250037 Canada Inc..

A quick search of that address only seems to come up with a business called European Auto Centre, and this definitely 14380 Montrose

Is that website correct? The Ontario business registration charges a fee so can't see when European Auto Centre was registered and where (if it was). If it's correct, was it 7250037 Canada Inc's real address, or a dummy for the registration? If real, then whose house is this?

Also, was it ever determined if this is the same Chris Smith?

[33] With respect to Smith:


(a) It is hereby ordered, pursuant to section 127 of the Act, that:


i. The Settlement Agreement dated January 15, 2009, between Staff of the Commission and Christopher Smith is approved;

ii. The Respondent is prohibited for five years from becoming or acting as a director or officer of any issuer, registrant or investment fund manager commencing on the date of this order; and,

iii. The Respondent is prohibited for five years from becoming or acting as a registrant commencing on the date of this order.

Oldscotsgit... The $15 per month admin fees are taken from the accounts current balance, its not real money getting injected into the scheme every month.

Banners Broker Scam | Jason Clark Investigates

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