Thread: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

There is a youtube video of Stokes interviewing Walker at the Dublin 'Gala'. He looks just like an ordinary Joe, struggling for a few bob. I wonder if he backing on the above is more in hope than belief. Banners Broker Dublin World Tour interview with Taxi Driver member - YouTube

Hello everyone :)

Originally Posted by Joe_Shmoe

Payza - That went out last week, Dec. 8th. We should be caught up with Payza with all old withdrawals. Please be sure your details are correct, correct username. cutoff for Christmas Dec. 5th for STP and Dec. 8th for Payza. We will try to do another one next week - Dec. 20.

Holidays -- Dec. 21st - January 2, support will be closed. Office will be closed. Site and panel movement will be going on as usual.

So this multi-million dollar business is closing completely over Christmas and New Year? Over quarter of a million members to support and they can't afford to keep even a skeleton staff on?

And what's the deal with the word "try"? They'll "try" and do a payout? Anyone taking bets on a "computer issue" around the 20th of the month? No support, no-one to contact and nothing there at all come 2nd Jan....

Originally Posted by Joe_Shmoe

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Mark Stokes no worries Lee its your call , James and I are just minowes in BB .. just remember to post back in 6 months time and say **** i wish i had listened to Mark
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Or, to put it another way, don't come looking for us for your money when this all goes tits-up because we're poor innocent souls that have been duped, just like you.....

$5000 in "unfinished panels"

IOW, nothing but numbers on a screen

Originally Posted by Brenda

Hello everyone :)

Hiya, Brenda.

Welcome to REALSCAM.com

Originally Posted by okosh

He's a kiwi bro....No doubt about it bro....Listen to how he talks bro....
Says he will answer the questions you want to arrssk.....Rest of the world ask but a true kiwi arrssks....
Can't fake that....

BTW....His town is close to Wellington...

Thanks bro, yeah m8 no doubt at all he a kiwi, will email him see how it all been going, and Carl Lucas, again thanks bro.......:-)

Originally Posted by littleroundman

$5000 in "unfinished panels"

IOW, nothing but numbers on a screen

Another desperate individual suckered into "investing" money he can ill afford. The number of videos featuring Mark Stokes interviewing people who have given their last penny or borrowed heavily to put money into Banners Broker is disgusting. I don't care how small he claims his part in this all is, Stokes and his brother James Pitsillides, are major players in this scam and need to be held to account by the authorities when the time comes.

BB Facebook NZ only 5 likes AND no English or Maori language? Not that popular here yet
facebook.com/pages/Banners-Broker-New-Zealand

carl lucas from nz no reply yet from him nor captain hog opps i mean pug wash

I notice the online bb cards no longer have the mastercard logo on the image, those who have cards here have mastercard on them still, I contacted mastercard NZ and Australasian branch and the reply from them was that they have not heard of Banners broker.

Thank you for your email. Please note that MasterCard do not endorse
> a group or business such as 'banners brokers'. Endorsement is done
> usually by the bank or financial institution who issue the cards.
>
> I never heard of this company and so had to do some research Based
> on
> the cardnumber you have provided, this card seem to be issued in the
> UK. As our team only looks after Australia, NZ and Pacific Island
> customers, we are unable to refer you directly to the card issuer.
>
> Kind regards
> Joy
> Customer Support & Delivery
> MasterCard Asia Pacific (Australia) Pty Ltd

I contacted the Financial Management Authority their response from Senior Adviser Retail Surveillance | Financial Markets Authority
T: + 64 4 474 2049 |
Level 2, 1 Grey Street, Wellington
PO Box 1179, Wellington 6140, New Zealand
Home | Financial Markets Authority
In response to your query regarding the operation of Banners Broker and the legitimacy of that operation I can advise the following:

1. The entity does not appear to be a registered NZ company, see the Companies Office website HomePage | Companies Office The Official Site ;
2. The entity is not a registered financial services provider and would not appear to be providing a financial service, see the Companies Office website HomePage | Companies Office FSP ;
3. From the detail on the ‘Contact Us’ page of the entity’s website bannersbroker.com, it would appear the entity has offices in a number of different countries;
4. FMA is unable to comment on the operations and legitimacy of Banners Broker, FMA’s mandate is to administer Financial Markets legislation;
5. You may wish to consider information provided by the Ministry of Consumer Affairs regarding scams on Scams | Consumer Affairs ;
6. If you require further information or assurance with regard Banners Brokers, I suggest you seek legal advice

And finally this from NZ consumer affairs, who diverted me because this is NOT a nz group

Thanks for your recent scam report to the Ministry of Consumer Affairs’ Scamwatch.
The scam you describe carries the hallmarks of a known scam. Information relating to this type of scam can be found on Scamwatch here: http://www.consumeraffairs.govt.nz/s...phishing-scams
The link for the organisation that deals with overseas scams is here. econsumer.gov - Your site for cross-border complaints.
Helping protect others
Scamwatch exists as an education tool for consumers to learn about the types of scams that are around, so people can know the sort of tactics scammers use and be able to spot the signs of a scam.
By reporting this scam to us, you add to our collection of scam data and the information we hold about scams. While the Ministry of Consumer Affairs does not have any investigative or enforcement powers in relation to scams, we need consumers to tell us of their scam experiences, so we can alert – and help protect - others.
If we see a new scam, or a recurrence of an old scam, we can list a warning on the Alerts section of Scamwatch: Scam Alerts | Consumer Affairs but we need people to make reports to us so we can keep tabs on the scammer’s activities. The information you have provided may help educate others to avoid scams in the future.
Once again, thank you for your report.
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ANYONE IN NZ PLEASE CONTACT THESE PEOPLE AS WELL........................LETS FIND SOME FORM OF PROOF FROM A RELIABLE & VERIFIABLE SOURCE AS TO THE LEGALITIES OF BB

Originally Posted by kiwi chick nz

Thanks bro, yeah m8 no doubt at all he a kiwi, will email him see how it all been going, and Carl Lucas, again thanks bro.......:-)

That's choice bro....Please do send emails and feel free to post any reply you get from them as we'd all love to read it....

Originally Posted by okosh

That's choice bro....Please do send emails and feel free to post any reply you get from them as we'd all love to read it....

Sweet as (we ALL say this) emails sent, I asked (not all of us say arrssk!) them about their experience with bb, will eagerly await replies, although I am anticipating these may all be sweet as (we say this a lot!) because most people seem to obediently wait 6 or so months to attempt withdrawal, only seems to have arrived in NZ about May 2012 so those wanting to withdrawal november would all still have the madatory 2 months or whatever for withdrawal to load on bb card

Originally Posted by noname999

Anyway, here's a really, really easy one. The drones should have no problem with this...unless of course we have been told another lie:

What university did Chris Smith go to?


Come on guys, this should be reeeeeeaaalllly easy to find out from you uplines...if its not a lie.


Looking forward to some answers....

Asking the above question again, in case it has got lost. If you don't want to post here(people are terrified of their accounts being seized), you can PM me. I won't reveal your identity.

I assume that any individual who has been to a recruitment drive and has been told of this college graduate genius Chris Smith, would automatically have asked what college. Its the simplest of due diligence...

Trawling websites, just another typical post...

Alex Balk December 9, 2012 at 10:32 am

I would like to address this post to any one that actually connected to the administration of BB Company and probably can answer to my questions as I can’t get answers from no one around me although I tried all possible & impossible ways. I registered an account and funded it with money few months ago. First problem appeared almost immediately, as before buying any panel or package I decided to return the sum to my e-wallet from an internal BB account. I wrote via e-ticket support system my question regarding the correct way of doing that, and in 24 hours got an answer: “Hello. Thank you for your ticket.Please follow the refund policy located at the bottom of our site. Thank You. BB Team”. That’s exactly what I did, and I found that in order to request cancellation I should send hard letter to Canada’s office in Oshawa and it should be done within 30 days since the funding. I sent it as registered mail, and was sure it’s all right, but in a month I’ve got that mail back not even opened with a sticker telling me that my mail wasn’t claimed. Next step I took was to contact any one from administration of BB in Israel to get an answer why official address posted on the web site and in refunding procedures does not receive mails. My sponsors couldn’t tell me nothing about this, so I tried to get phone number of any official representative. First I’ve found local address BB reps. needed to be there, but when I arrived – no such an office & no such a company there. Then I’ve got probably official rep. phone number – Stacy, but when I called her, she didn’t try even to hear my question, but only asked me “Where did you get this phone number, who gave it to you?”, in a few weeks she called me, finally listened to my question and although she didn’t tell me nothing about the official address in Canada, she made it clear that I can’t take my money back and it must be used for buying panels or packages only. She did’t tell me what is the current office address, but she told me not to bother her anymore on her phone, and promised to send me email for urgent questions but it never came. I also tried to contact mr. Ian Driscoll as leader of all Israel on Skype – no answer, two phone numbers of office in Britain – no answers either. So out of choice my next move should be the purchase of packages and eventually the earning of money. It still would be some way to enjoy my money, but then happened another problem. In order to release funds from the system, you should request BB Prepaid Card from MasterCard and to do that you should enter many personal information including government ID copy, proof of address etc., and I did all that, but now there is a message that my ID and proof of address are rejected with no additional explanations. Same problem with PERSONAL INFORMATION approval (as a mandatory way to get prepaid card) currently many new distributors facing, actually all I know, and even if you go to the page where you should upload requested documents, and press “upload new document” or “replace” the system gives you only one answer: “The page is under maintenance. Please come back later”. I’m coming back every day for already a week but every time the system is only in one state.

The situation is very annoying simply because of fact that you easily can upload funds to BB account, but you can’t take it out as the approval of personal info lies in the hands of corporate office that is clearly not in Oshawa Canada and has no published phone/fax numbers, but only e-ticket support system that seems stopped functioning around three weeks ago. The system however still sending you “e-ticket received” confirmation, but no action after that – tried that at least three times last weeks.

BB administration, please help me to resolve those issues, as it’s already too frustrating. Dear members of BB, if you know something or someone that can help me to resolve those things, please write me. My email: *deleted*@gmail.com . Thanking in advance everyone who will answer.

Originally Posted by Hypanor

Interestingly, the Spanish use of the word mensa (female) or menso (male) generally denotes someone who is crazy or stupid.
Urban Dictionary: Mensa

It was a typo. He clearly meant DENSA.

And this BB imbecile has so little intelligence he thinks this review is good for business.

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"Feedjit a well known publisher, check it out here gives you 2 Million Geotargeted or 6 Million Global Ad impressions for $49. It would cost you more then $18,000 in Banners Broker to get the same amount of Banner impressions (5 times the Ultimate Panel Pack). So as an advertiser you have far better alternatives, however that is a business decision and not a red flag. A company is allowed to price its services as it wants, and sizes of banners variates."

"In our opinion a very small percentage of your intitial investment will be spend on Banner impressions, however that is again a business decision and not a red flag."

"In our opinion Banners Broker's marketing department fail to explain how above compensation plan pay out is financed which leads to speculation whether or not the whole concept is a Ponzi

" In our opinion their profits are coming from the next sources:"

"As long as affiliates keep pushing the business model, the enormous profits generated by Banners Brokers will growth and the company will most likely not have any cash problem. "

"Our advice to Banners Broker affiliates is to withdraw profits very fast, an company E-wallet is NOT a safe bank account….."

That'll get the punters rolling up to your sign-up page Travis!

Originally Posted by BalancedView

There are nine-million bicycles in Beiging...

If I represent a minority, within the global population, that's fine. But, perhaps you could clarify to me, If 265,000 to five is your current ratio, and you are one of the five, what class of a minority, within a minority, are you?
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Thank you BV. Unfortunately you either did not understand my point or understood it and have answered it by a pile of meaningless waffle. Can i use a totally made up example of why i believe your 265,000 to 5 ratio is not apt?

Your arguments clearly do not make sense in the real world so just for you let us look at an alternate earth. On this earth there is a particular nasty disease that if exposed, a person has a chance of catching. This disease either turns you Barmy (ie mentally deficient), or Bad (you want to steal off everyone and believe you are smarter than everyone).This disease is known as BB (Barmy or Bad) Some people who get exposed to the disease are immune and are called ANTI's, as they have the antidote in their blood. Let us say that 4 million people have been exposed to the disease and (say) 265,000 have caught it and are now BB positive. In this world a fearless group of 5 ANTI's meet in a room to discuss how to innoculate the rest of the world. Suddenly in walks someone frothing at the mouth who shouts out "hahahaha there's only 5 of you but 265,000 of me. You're all mad, I'm a rich businessman, I'm in Mensa" This person, unfortunately has BB

Now my question to you is surely the correct ratio is either 1 to 5 (just in that room) or 265,000 to 4 million (in the whole world)? By using a current ratio of 265,000 to 5 is he misunderstanding how numbers work (Barmy) or does he understand but spouting meaningless waffle to disrupt the meeting (Bad). I know where my money is.

My money is in my bank, not in Chris's wallet.

Originally Posted by Poyol

One can always state that they are a Mensan whilst hiding behind a 'throw-away' moniker. Why don't you state your real name? You may well have looked me up - and I have a list of names who you could be. I don't tend to 'hear' things on buses - and it's very immature to mock psychosis even if the person you're insulting isn't affected by such an illness.

Also, your style of writing doesn't portray that you're very intelligent!

Jason

The majority of people who qualify for Mensa, don't join Mensa because a lot of the members are fruitcakes. An innate inferiority complex makes some of them want to join. Some of them are lovely people though. I haven't joined on principle as though i easily passed the IQ test i don't think the tests measure true intelligence. I have a friend who would have a low IQ for test purposes as she has Dyslexia and also is incapable of simple maths. Most of our group of friends use her as the first port of call for real life problems. She has definitely helped me with logistical issues and i consider her type of intelligence as valid as my own.

When someone mentions Mensa like this though he clearly has a need to "big himself up". Also part of this is the attacks on everyone here, calling everyone insane because they don't agree with him. To be honest i'm feeling a little bit sorry for him as he probably is clever enough to realise that his "profit" is coming from others. It must make you feel shitty, especially at christmas to know that you're helping to make poor people poorer. Feeling sorry for him is why i haven't ruined his trip to Lapland by pointing out that Santa doesn't really exist. Although his business model (fly to every house in one night, break in, eat a mince pie and leave presents) is more realistic than BB.

I wondered how they were going to get past christmas without folding... I didnt think it would be that simple, just close for the whole of december lol. Awesome.

I've not tried a Mensa IQ test - I have done plenty online and offline though averaging at about 136 - I don't know if that's in the top two percentile - nor do I care!

What matters to me at this moment is protecting the masses from con artists.

Originally Posted by buckyuk

I wondered how they were going to get past christmas without folding... I didnt think it would be that simple, just close for the whole of december lol. Awesome.

Holidays -- Dec. 21st - January 2, support will be closed. Office will be closed.

Hmmnn,

I wonder how far away I could get and how successfully I could cover my tracks between December 21 and January 2 with a couple of million dollars of members money in my back pocket.

did the office close last year as well? does anyone know.......
Jason....any news on anyone serious looking into bb yet

I know some national newspapers are in the pipeline. UK and someone's hinted at Ireland too - think it's another paper other than Sunday World - I can't be certain though.

They do gain their info through us lot though - so we're quite serious too!

"Justin December 7, 2012 at 12:11 pm

Mark, ....I can tell you one thing beyond a shadow of a doubt if the time to get paid continues to take 6 to 7 weeks this is going to be the death of BB. Myself along with 10 of my associates are frustrated, concerned and pissed off with not being paid through Solid Trust Pay or Payza in a timely manner! BB certainly takes in money “quickly” through these processors, but taking almost 2 months to get paid through these same processors is RIDICULOUS! The live support is a JOKE and the excuses that come from the top are just as pathetic"

Marks reply starts in part "Prior to BB despite being in many MLM?Network marketing companies, I was basically a failure"

Who wants to break the bad news to Mark Ghobril that's he's failed yet again?
Mark claims "Mark Ghobril December 6, 2012 at 2:57 am I have over 1,000,000 total earnings, but I have taken more than 10% of that."

I wonder if he is declaring that $100k? Assuming he is telling the truth, because they all do...

Originally Posted by Brenda

There is a youtube video of Stokes interviewing Walker at the Dublin 'Gala'. He looks just like an ordinary Joe, struggling for a few bob. I wonder if he backing on the above is more in hope than belief. Banners Broker Dublin World Tour interview with Taxi Driver member - YouTube

Hello everyone :)

Hi and welcome to realscam Brenda :)

Facebook page of BB Australia has some new blurb up about the Dublin experience.

Few new names to conjure with as well:

Lorenzo Guarini - How to build your Business
David Hooker - Corporate Team Building
Stephanie Schlacht - Panels/Sales Credits
Grant D'Eall - Traffic/Advertising Coordinators

Originally Posted by Poyol

I know some national newspapers are in the pipeline. UK and someone's hinted at Ireland too - think it's another paper other than Sunday World - I can't be certain though.

They do gain their info through us lot though - so we're quite serious too!

absolutely realscam is serious, what I meant was someone that bb will take seriously eg. the police

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