Thread: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

Here, for your Saturday enjoyment, is Mark Stokes' "sheik", Imran "Immi" Nauth, Banners Broker "millionaire"...


sheikh.jpg

not, as may be assumed from his title and attire, the son of some sheikh from some far off Arabic land, but rather one of seven children of a taxi driver in Guyana, who after converting to Islam travelled to the UK and took up residence in Bradford, from where when he is not preaching, according to Companies House, he operates Al-Waseelah Investments Ltd from a terraced residence at 27 Bertram Road BD8 7LX

Originally Posted by Theseus

Here, for your Saturday enjoyment, is Mark Stokes' "sheik", Imran "Immi" Nauth, Banners Broker "millionaire"...
not, as may be assumed from his title and attire, the son of some sheikh from some far off Arabic land, but rather one of seven children of a taxi driver in Guyana, who after converting to Islam travelled to the UK and took up residence in Bradford, from where when he is not preaching, according to Companies House, he operates Al-Waseelah Investments Ltd from a terraced residence at 27 Bertram Road BD8 7LX

It's a nice little house, but it doesn't look like a Gazillionairs house.

http://www.facebook.com/imran.nauth

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Sheikh

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Sheikh (pronounced /ˈʃiːk/ SHEEK or /ˈʃeɪk/ SHAYK; Arabic: شيخ‎ šayḫ, mostly pronounced [ʃeːx], plural شيوخ šuyūḫ)—also spelled Sheik or Shaikh or Shekh, or transliterated as Shaykh—is an honorific in the Arabic language that literally means "elder" and carries the meaning "leader and/or governor". It is commonly used to designate the front man of a tribe who got this title after his father, or an Islamic scholar who got this title after graduating from the basic Islamic school. Sheikha is the female equivalent of the term. A sheikh who is wise is called ḥakīm adjective (wise) حكيم‎, ḥākim noun (governor) حاكم‎, yaḥkum verb (govern) يحكم‎; and can govern. The scholar sheikh here can govern but cannot lead directly because the leader is the imam which is based upon the Qur'an and authentic Sunnah; on the other hand the family sheikh can always lead but cannot govern unless he is wise. Although the title generally refers to a male, a very small number of female sheikhs have also existed.^{[citation needed]}
It also refers generally to a man over forty^[1] years of age. While even a new Muslim can be called a sheikh if he is diligent in seeking the knowledge of Islam based upon the Qur'an and authentic Sunnah, he can be referred to as such by those he teaches. Usually, a person is known as a sheikh when he has completed his undergraduate university studies in Islamic studies and is trained in giving lectures.^[1] The word sheikh under this meaning is a synonym of Alim, plural Ulama (a learned person in Islam, a scholar),^[2] Mawlawi, Mawlānā, Muhaddith, Faqīh, Qadi, Mufti, Hadhrat or Hafiz.

I can't see anything here about being involved with Ponzi schemes

Just in case it was overlooked, as we didn't have a name etc at that point....

Originally Posted by bannersbrokerhelpme

ok let me write it again

i know this shakiee fella from bradford..the same one who has made a million

the facts are

he lives in rented house
he drives a £1000 car

what i really do not like is the fact these people get friends to invite family and friends to join

they will destroy peoples lives

i have not met anyone who can take money out

forget taking £10k you can not take out £50 - trust me i have been helping one person to get his money out and nothing no money full stop....you can add funds but to take them out the db error comes up

funny how everything else works but this error only comes up when taking money out

Originally Posted by bannersbrokerhelpme

thanks Hypanor

you know i have been trying to talk people out of investing in the scheme for 1 year now

This shakie is a religious leader and people respect him and are only putting money in on his account.

i am going to ring the fraud squad in London to ask them to have a look...it is hard work getting anyone to listen...only when 1 million people shout and cry murder will anyone take notice

just imagine all them people who have got there family's and friends to join when this goes up in flames they will never sit together when Christmas comes

this will damage lives and people will stop talking to each other

money we can make again but time lost with family can never be replaced

this site has to move up in Google so more people can read and learn

Originally Posted by buckyuk

I wondered how they were going to get past christmas without folding... I didnt think it would be that simple, just close for the whole of december lol. Awesome.

They already explained it. They're going on 'vacation'. It's not going past Christmas.

Originally Posted by kiwi chick nz

absolutely realscam is serious, what I meant was someone that bb will take seriously eg. the police

eh....we like to throw out a couple jokes here and there as well.

Originally Posted by Joe_Shmoe

Hi Brenda,

When you see people like this poor guy who dreams of giving up work for the "Internet Lifestyle" that stokes is promoting,
you have to wonder why they call us dream stealer's?

Stokes is dangling this so called "internet lifestyle" right in front of this poor guy.
(who's wife from what I have read seems to have her head screwed on)

He has been persuaded not to draw any money out for the usual six month & so far he hasn't, he is pumping more & more money into Banners Broker all the time with subscriptions & traffic packs etc

When Banners Broker collapses and his dream is snatched from right in front of his nose, who is the real dream stealer then?
(Also he will have his wife to answer to)


Mark's brother registered this site. Marks not soft is he?

mark stokes | Mark Stokes

Registered through: GoDaddy.com, LLC (Domain Names | The World's Largest Domain Name Registrar - Go Daddy)
Domain Name: MARK-STOKES.COM
Created on: 19-Jan-11
Expires on: 19-Jan-13
Last Updated on: 27-Apr-12

Registrant:
james pitsillides
27 the nook
anstey
Leicester, le77az
United Kingdom

Administrative Contact:
pitsillides, james @charnwoodhome.co.uk
27 the nook
anstey
Leicester, le77az
United Kingdom
07866460117

Technical Contact:
pitsillides, james @charnwoodhome.co.uk
27 the nook
anstey
Leicester, le77az
United Kingdom
07866460117

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Just want to make sure any innocents visiting here get the idea correctly.

Originally Posted by Theseus

Here, for your Saturday enjoyment, is Mark Stokes' "sheik", Imran "Immi" Nauth, Banners Broker "millionaire"...


sheikh.jpg

not, as may be assumed from his title and attire, the son of some sheikh from some far off Arabic land, but rather one of seven children of a taxi driver in Guyana, who after converting to Islam travelled to the UK and took up residence in Bradford, from where when he is not preaching, according to Companies House, he operates Al-Waseelah Investments Ltd from a terraced residence at 27 Bertram Road BD8 7LX

How much terrorist money anyone think he's laundered already?

Originally Posted by Whip

How much terrorist money anyone think he's laundered already?

As far as I am aware there is no indication that Mr Nauth is laundering money for terrorists, however I am sure the CTU of the Met Police would probably be keen to have a look at his accounts and know where the prepaid Mastercard for his account actually is....

Originally Posted by Theseus

As far as I am aware there is no indication that Mr Nauth is laundering money for terrorists, however I am sure the CTU of the Met Police would probably be keen to have a look at his accounts and know where the prepaid Mastercard for his account actually is....

It's not like he - or anyone that does it - is going to announce it. lol.
It would be very easy to do.

Originally Posted by Whip

It's not like he - or anyone that does it - is going to announce it. lol.
It would be very easy to do.

So any Muslim guys that is involved in fraud is automatically funding terrorist?

Come on.That jokes kinda old.

Originally Posted by Whip

It's not like he - or anyone that does it - is going to announce it. lol.
It would be very easy to do.

That would be for the police to ascertain, all that can be stated for certain is that he has invested a large sum of money in a Ponzi scheme which, if he can actually withdraw the proceeds, would provide a very lucrative income stream for whoever holds the prepaid card that is attached to his account....

Originally Posted by Nourjan

So any Muslim guys that is involved in fraud is automatically funding terrorist?

Come on.That jokes kinda old.

Yeah, it's about 11 years old.....

Anyway, there's no guarantee that the money invested in this ponzi isn't from or for terrorists, remember there is a lot of Irish money in this too, do you honestly think the paramilitary groups over there would pass up the opportunity to launder funds, at great return, through a prepaid card?

And the chicken liberation society? come on now.

Originally Posted by Theseus

Another desperate individual suckered into "investing" money he can ill afford. The number of videos featuring Mark Stokes interviewing people who have given their last penny or borrowed heavily to put money into Banners Broker is disgusting. I don't care how small he claims his part in this all is, Stokes and his brother James Pitsillides, are major players in this scam and need to be held to account by the authorities when the time comes.

I agree it's the ones that cannot afford to miss the bb opportunity of a lifetime, I also wonder how many believers borrow in lieu of their upcoming withdrawal also, very very sad for many, those pushing bb should be ashamed

Originally Posted by kiwi chick nz

I agree it's the ones that cannot afford to miss the bb opportunity of a lifetime, I also wonder how many believers borrow in lieu of their upcoming withdrawal also, very very sad for many, those pushing bb should be ashamed

Not only borrowing in lieu, but delaying taking anything out from BB because they believe there will be more for them in the long term. They will also be encourage to roll up their panels into the ones that can take up to 6 months to finish. That's one heck of a lot of trust they are placing into the hands of people they don't know at all.

Remember this isn't all stranger danger, some will have been recruited into BB by friends and/or family. It's another form of domestic abuse and when it all goes splat, there will be one unholy mess to sort out.

Originally Posted by kiwi chick nz

I agree it's the ones that cannot afford to miss the bb opportunity of a lifetime, I also wonder how many believers borrow in lieu of their upcoming withdrawal also, very very sad for many, those pushing bb should be ashamed

There has been talk in Ireland of people borrowing from loan sharks.
Like I said in a previous post, If you had little money and you genuinely thought you could double whatever money you could get your hands on, why wouldn't you get your hands on more money any way you could?

Originally Posted by Joe_Shmoe

There has been talk in Ireland of people borrowing from loan sharks.
Like I said in a previous post, If you had little money and you genuinely thought you could double whatever money you could get your hands on, why wouldn't you get your hands on more money any way you could?

So a double potential whammy. Not only have you lost your own money, you've lost money that probably hasn't come from a high street bank with a reasonable interest rate. That is a very very scary scenario.

How I hate this whole thing.

To continue the line of simple questions for the BB drones(still waiting for them to be able to answer one), here's another, what should be very simple one...unless BB are telling lies:


What is the address of the new building that BB have supposedly bought?

Anyone...anyone...??

hi all received a reply from Carl Lucas, in nz..don't think he one of the main guys however all positive fro him........... here is a snippit

............So I reinvested, and now my monthly costs are $550 per month being $100 membership and 9 x traffic packs. That sounds like a lot of monthly payment but more than that is generated within the system by panels completing.

I have now decided to keep on reinvesting until the end of March and then take out my initial investment and some profit.

On the 29th of October I decided to then go ahead and purchase a Red panel which was worth $810. This is from extra funds I introduced so was not from money generated from panels.

I have attached a screen shot where I am today. The $12420 is for when the panels that I have already qualified, do complete. The $7766 is what I have earned within the system.

I think BB is amazing. Will it last forever, I am not sure but am willing to take a punt. You can make money faster if you introduce new members to it but you can still make money if you dont recruit. I have only recuited 2 new green package people and that was only recently so has very little impact in the figures attached.

There are terms that they use that you will probably not understand. The whole system is a bit confusing but after a while it makes sense. I suggest you only purchase a package that you can afford and dont think you are going to be wealthy overnight...it takes time.

Something you do need is photo ID and a phone bill or electricity bill or similar in your name and your residential address on it. This is because when you withdraw money you withdraw it to a BB Mastercard. They need the ID and address for that and even though you wont be withdrawing for a while they require you to supply the ID within 30 days. (it maybe even less than that now).............

I have bolded something i think is interesting.$550 per month in fees? thats a lot of dollars if there are 265000 members, even if they not ALL paying this much

Originally Posted by noname999

To continue the line of simple questions for the BB drones(still waiting for them to be able to answer one), here's another, what should be very simple one...unless BB are telling lies:


What is the address of the new building that BB have supposedly bought?

Anyone...anyone...??

we already know that....

In regard to the issue of money laundering, it is always a possibility with Ponzi's. In the ASD case, the speculation was raised since ASD had done business with a Dallas firm called Virtual Money (VM) using their debit cards. VM was not only referenced in the 2008 ASD case but in the 2007 PhoenixSurf Ponzi case by the feds. VM was providing debit cards which the drug cartels used to launder money through ATM's. Robert Hodgins, the operator of VM, fled the country and has an Interpol arrest warrant issued by a federeal judge in Connecticut.

I am sure that there was money laundering in the Zeek case and the same will be true in BB. BB had no clue who they were really dealing with before they started asking for verification of identity. The fact they have makes me believe they think they were being used for money laundering. If they were, cleaning up their act will not absolve them of these charges should they be shut down by law enforcement in any country.

Originally Posted by kiwi chick nz

hi all received a reply from Carl Lucas, in nz..don't think he one of the main guys however all positive fro him........... here is a snippit

............So I reinvested, and now my monthly costs are $550 per month being $100 membership and 9 x traffic packs. That sounds like a lot of monthly payment but more than that is generated within the system by panels completing.

I have now decided to keep on reinvesting until the end of March and then take out my initial investment and some profit.

So in short he has invested & reinvested thousands of dollars, & will carry on investing thousands more & has thus far got nothing out.

This man unless he is already very wealthy (which I doubt) is on the road to ruin. And by the sound of it trying to talk others into doing the same..... MADNESS UTTER MADNESS.

Originally Posted by Joe_Shmoe

So in short he has invested & reinvested thousands of dollars, & will carry on investing thousands more & has thus far got nothing out.

This man unless he is already very wealthy (which I doubt) is on the road to ruin. And by the sound of it trying to talk others into doing the same..... MADNESS UTTER MADNESS.

There's evidence of the same on some of Stokes' videos, people who tell him they had to borrow the initial £250 or whatever and then went back and borrowed more when they saw how much "profit" they were making.

Originally Posted by Joe_Shmoe

So in short he has invested & reinvested thousands of dollars, & will carry on investing thousands more & has thus far got nothing out.

This man unless he is already very wealthy (which I doubt) is on the road to ruin. And by the sound of it trying to talk others into doing the same..... MADNESS UTTER MADNESS.

very very sad isn't it, trusting people build a dream that gets absolutely shattered, also worrying because so many recruit family and friends, loss of money and these scams break up both :-(

Originally Posted by Nourjan

So any Muslim guys that is involved in fraud is automatically funding terrorist?

Come on.That jokes kinda old.

So you wouldn't believe a russian crime syndicate using American mules has stolen credit card info and is funding themselves by stealing from people? I mean, they're the mob right? Too cliche also? And banks really don't want to do anything about it. Wouldn't that be the same 'old joke'? Do you think that suddenly terrorism has been squashed? You may not want to believe it and that's fine but no joke about it. These things happen and are very real. It has to be funded somehow. What better way than penny ante ponzis that crop up and die so fast LE doesn't have time to look at them?

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