Thread: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

Yes I am sure the set up of bb makes money laundering easy. And it is quite possible criminals of all types could be taking part in it. from any race religion or country.

Hi all ot another reply with a pdf how bb works with a whole heap of testimonials..who are Lourens & Heila they keep referring to?...by the way the pdf of testimonials was sent in reply to my question....where can I view the ads (the product) I said I was concerned about it being a pryamid thingee if there is no product.

Can someone else explain the implications for the individuals that supply bb with personal forms of ID

Originally Posted by Whip

So you wouldn't believe a russian crime syndicate using American mules has stolen credit card info and is funding themselves by stealing from people? I mean, they're the mob right? Too cliche also? And banks really don't want to do anything about it. Wouldn't that be the same 'old joke'? Do you think that suddenly terrorism has been squashed? You may not want to believe it and that's fine but no joke about it. These things happen and are very real. It has to be funded somehow. What better way than penny ante ponzis that crop up and die so fast LE doesn't have time to look at them?

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Whip. I dont think Nourijan was denying the possibility of money laundering by bb, or anything in this post above . Rather he was taking umbrage that when the picture of the muslim gentleman was posted, being a shill or a fool or a crook was not the first comment as is usual. It was about him as possibly a terrorist money launderer. A Racial stereotype which anyone would feel sensitive about.
I must admit I have sympathy with Nourijan on this and agree with him.

Originally Posted by Jerrygo

Whip. I dont think Nourijan was denying the possibility of money laundering by bb, or anything in this post above . Rather he was taking umbrage that when the picture of the muslim gentleman was posted, being a shill or a fool or a crook was not the first comment as is usual. It was about him as possibly a terrorist money launderer. A Racial stereotype which anyone would feel sensitive about.
I must admit I have sympathy with Nourijan on this and agree with him.

It was stated he was a fake 'sheik' What else could be fake? No one thought the plane hijackers were terrorists either.

Originally Posted by Theseus

Here, for your Saturday enjoyment, is Mark Stokes' "sheik", Imran "Immi" Nauth, Banners Broker "millionaire"...


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not, as may be assumed from his title and attire, the son of some sheikh from some far off Arabic land, but rather one of seven children of a taxi driver in Guyana, who after converting to Islam travelled to the UK and took up residence in Bradford, from where when he is not preaching, according to Companies House, he operates Al-Waseelah Investments Ltd from a terraced residence at 27 Bertram Road BD8 7LX

Yes this picture is the one of imran....and the story of his background is correct

He is using his religion to grab people....investors dont think a religious man would lie to them.

He does not own the house
it is on rent
it is a 6 bed house and he is on benefits if my info is correct

someone has to tip of the local council regarding the rates...then the council can check if he has more then 16k in his account which should mean end to income support...

the council would also investigate how much money he has in his bb account when they take away his computers

ctu is not a bad idea i think.....

i do not like anyone getting hurt but this man is responsible for many people losing money

stopping Imran and I can save a few hundred people

fingers crossed in the morning ring the council will update...they must have a hotline

it is sunday and the office is closed....monday then

In many respects, Banners Broker is more "dangerous" than the larger Zeek Rewards and AdSurf Daily HYIP ponzi frauds in terms of the threat they pose to society.

No one really knows who is behind Banners Broker.

There is very little chance we will ever find out and, no chance at all of their accounts being opened.

We know, for example, Eastern European crime gangs have in the past been behind previous HYIP ponzis.

In fact, some of them have even been known to openly boast about their involvement and the fact they feel untraceable.

Personally, I don't find it at all far fetched to imagine organized crime is heavily involved.

Originally Posted by littleroundman

In many respects, Banners Broker is more "dangerous" than the larger Zeek Rewards and AdSurf Daily HYIP ponzi frauds in terms of the threat they pose to society.

No one really knows who is behind Banners Broker.

There is very little chance we will ever find out and, no chance at all of their accounts being opened.

We know, for example, Eastern European crime gangs have in the past been behind previous HYIP ponzis.

In fact, some of them have even been known to openly boast about their involvement and the fact they feel untraceable.

Personally, I don't find it at all far fetched to imagine organized crime is heavily involved.

It is not a reach to believe that organized crime or terrorist's organizations are involved in these scams.

One of the things you must take into consideration is that in order for the Canadian authorities to act, they must have victims in the Province where BB is located. Once you have victims in the Province, then they will consider conducting an investigation. If no-one complains from the Province, nothing will be done.

As for investigations in general, law enforcement agencies are only reactive not proactive. The only law enforcement agencies that can be proactive are those charged with their nations money supply. This is what triggered the ASD case to have been shut down so fast, as it was done by the Secret Service which is charged with protecting the US money supply. If you want action to be taken before there are victims, you must contact the law enforcement agency charged with this responsibility with your information and complaints.

This is not TV. The law enforcement agencies will not keep you up to date on what they are doing. They won't even confirm they are doing an investigation. You will normally get a thank you for filing your complaint, but that is usually it. Even if they ask you for more information, it is still no guarantee they are investigating. It's just how things are done.

This does not mean that you don't keep the heat on or contacting as many organizations as possible. The more contacts they get, the more likely they will investigate. Remember, it is based on the number of complaints and the dollar amounts those complaints represents that determines their interest.

You also have to understand that law enforcement does have "priorities." We have been involved in working several cases where we thought something was going to happen only for nothing to be done. It was obvious that something with a higher priority took precedence over the case we were assisting with. Still, law enforcement is getting better at reacting more quickly due to the incredible amounts of money that is being stolen worldwide in the past 2 years to these Ponzi's. The total dollar amounts can stagger the imagination and mind. They are contributing to the global meltdown of the financial markets.

Originally Posted by baylee

It is not a reach to believe that organized crime or terrorist's organizations are involved in these scams.

Personally, I think it's more of a stretch to believe they AREN'T involved.

362 posts on Talkgold, so he's no newbie, and even HE has seen the writing on the wall.



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Originally Posted by baylee

It is not a reach to believe that organized crime or terrorist's organizations are involved in these scams.

But to believe that just because someone is an orthodox Muslim this translates into them being a terrorist is racist....

Will we then assume that every African American pimping BB is a gang member??....
Is every Mexican pimping BB a drug mule for the cartel??.....
Is every Kiwi pimping BB also shtooping sheep??...
Where does it end??....

Personally I find whip's post offensive....

Originally Posted by okosh

But to believe that just because someone is an orthodox Muslim this translates into them being a terrorist is racist....

Equally it would be unwise to ignore one with "8 million" in untraceable funds that can be accessed by anyone with a prepaid card from anywhere in the world on the basis that it might be deemed offensive.

These prepaid Mastercard/VISA cards are being used by terrorists and drug cartels worldwide, to move funds about.

Originally Posted by Whip

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That's some scary reading, and you'd have to imagine its a significantly bigger issue now that it was when that was written.

I had wondered about the possibility of future CC fraud through Banners Broker, but paying is overwhelmingly done through a 3rd party (STP, Payza, etc), so they have no direct access to CC details. I assume they can't just send a charge to the payment processor, any payment would have to be initiated by the card holder, like with Paypal? So is CC fraud an unlikely future scenario?

Aside from the fact that they ask you to willingly give them your banking details when you sign up, but the main bits aren't mandatory fields. But no doubt some will have done it...

Originally Posted by littleroundman

362 posts on Talkgold, so he's no newbie, and even HE has seen the writing on the wall.



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Wouldn't be too worried about this guy. He complains like clockwork that BB is a scam...then when he gets paid, he is back to being a cheerleader again. Of course the cycle is getting longer and longer, but he is too stupid to see that.

Just on the comments that this scam is closing at Christmas, and thats the end of it; Don't be so sure. And don't let comments like that come back to bite you.

4 questions in and still waiting on an answer. Think I'm changing my nickname for the BB idiots from drones to 'shrooms!

Anyway, here's a new question for this fine Sunday morning:

Why do BB continue to allow Paul McCarthy be their representative in Ireland, when he is quite obviously not up to the job?

Ask your upline, surely they should be able to provide a legitimate reason. Surely they are in the know...after all, these are the guys you trusted with your money...

Originally Posted by Theseus

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So, let's go through that shall we? You had 20 full time staff and retail premises in "an exclusive high street location" and this cost you £3000 a week?

Let's be generous and say that it only cost £200 a week to cover the costs of the shop (rent/rates/electricity/insurance), and there was no advertising, no vehicles to run (both of which would make running a home improvement firm "difficult"), and no overdraft to service, that leaves £140 for each of your full-time staff.

And this is someone offering advice on how to get rich?

Love it when someone makes up numbers that look big and impressive and they get found out.

Originally Posted by Nourjan

So any Muslim guys that is involved in fraud is automatically funding terrorist?

Come on.That jokes kinda old.

Couldn't agree more- i was a bit uncomfortable with those comments even though i could see it was just a joke.

Originally Posted by Whip

So you wouldn't believe a russian crime syndicate using American mules has stolen credit card info and is funding themselves by stealing from people? I mean, they're the mob right? Too cliche also? And banks really don't want to do anything about it. Wouldn't that be the same 'old joke'? Do you think that suddenly terrorism has been squashed? You may not want to believe it and that's fine but no joke about it. These things happen and are very real. It has to be funded somehow. What better way than penny ante ponzis that crop up and die so fast LE doesn't have time to look at them?

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Yes it could be terrorists- Muslim, Christian, Jewish, or Atheist. Probably not buddhist but give it time....
The issue is mentioning terrorism and associating it with a paricular religion or ethnicity. I have worked alongside many muslims and they include some of the most lovely people i know. Some of them had family inside the buildings when the planes crashed. I think what Nourjan is saying is yjat it is ok to consider a BB/Terrorist link but not ok to only consider it because a muslim is involved.

We are going off on a dangerous tangent here. Can we get back to topic please.

Whatever religion, colour, creed or ethnicity, the guy's a bloody liar who is conspiring with other bloody liars to steal money from their fellow human beings WITHOUT consideration for their religion, colour, creed or ethnicity.

Originally Posted by Jerrygo

Yes I am sure the set up of bb makes money laundering easy. And it is quite possible criminals of all types could be taking part in it. from any race religion or country.

To my opinion money laundering is not only easy but is a must in the BB case and probably many other scams.If BB claims to earn with advertising services ( what is a farce but still giving BB legal face ),then all the money gathered from members - I would say ponzi money - is suddenly CLEAN as it has now legal surface being money "earned" by selling advertising places.The "business" model BB has is money laundering per se and apart of BB being ponzi,the law could easily charge them IN ADDITION for doing the crime.MISGUIDANCE is one more crime we have here.

There's a very good reason the US Secret Service now counts the investigation of "money laundering" among it's list of duties, and why the Secret Service Financial Crimes and Money Laundering Task Force was largely responsible for the investigation and subsequent prosecution of Andy Bowdoin and AdSurf Daily and was directly involved with the recent shutdown of Zeek Rewards.

I see no reason to assume Banners Broker is any different than any of the previous "next big thing" HYIP ponzi frauds and that at least some of the proceeds haven't been laundered and sent on to who-knows-what criminal and/or terrorist organization

Came across another picture of the 8 Million Dollar Man (the other bloke is Tony Mcstravick, who has a thing for super-imposing his own mug into photos like this one). Steve Austin will be jealous...

www.gamechanger4life.com

Imran.jpg

And Aminur Rahman is such a financial whizz, he's invested $1000 in Banners Broken 6 weeks ago and now his e-wallet says he has $1900. He thinks he's going well, but just wait until he tries to get that money out! The numb-nuts is leaving his money in though, until he gets his balance up to $13000.

He's such a genius, during his riveting video, he gets the Windows calculator out to work out how much he's invested so far "Um, $715 plus $300, that would be um... hang on..... yeah, $1015".

But I'm thinking about "Taking Massive Action" and signing up with him, this guy is happening!
http://thebbexpert.com/join-me-now/

Originally Posted by Hypanor

Came across another picture of the 8 Million Dollar Man (the other bloke is Tony Mcstravick, who has a thing for super-imposing his own mug into photos like this one). Steve Austin will be jealous...

www.gamechanger4life.com

So there you go then go borrow some money. Then join Banners Broker soon you will be a squillionair.
Very wise.