Thread: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

Originally Posted by Theseus

Looks like from her FB profile that she threw the towel in with BB....

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left job........

Just though I'd give a quick update.

As I mentioned in my previous post, a friend of mine got himself deeply involved with this crew. His up-line and mentor is the guy who goes by the name Imtiyaz. He holds BB presentations in Manchester area.
I've heard now that he has introduced my friend to a new "business" i.e. Sisel International. Basically selling age reversal drinks (lol). They've partnered up and are holding meetings to recruit more people cause they get commission etc. etc.. you get the idea :)

Mark Stokes's lot have been pretty quite today for some reason.

However this little thread from the other day gave me a chuckle.

Mark & James Banners Broker Team Training 2012-12-18 17-39-10.jpg

Andrew Walker


Went to pay for an ad i have running in a local paper...had a long discussion with the owner ( short of money probably won't join :)). Her biggest question was.." Why do Banners Broker need affiliates ? Why don't they keep all the money for themselves ? "......as far as i know they need the money from affiliates to grow and buy the advertising space on the publishers sites and then in turn they rent it back to us for a set period....and we get a cut of the profits. So it's a win, win for both sides. We need BB and BB need us !! 2013 is gonna be huge !!Andrew Walker If i could get up to 100k by this time next year id be very happy...conservative estimate..

Richard Arblaster No, no, they don't need the money from affiliates, that would make this the dreaded P word!!!

Andrew Walker So why do they need affiliates ? Because they're nice and want to change lives ?

Mark Stokes they want affiliates (A) for buying power for inventory across the web 2 years in advance and get very low rental spaces and( its like Facebook, Youtube ect , as more and more people join they have power to encourage bigger company's to join forces with them to grow our blind network audience, and of course float the company and make shed loads of dosh...

Andrew Walker Did you listen to Paul McCarthy on the Joe Duffy Show here in Ireland...he was really grilled !

Mark Stokes yep , and saw the Sunday world , they where very unfair to him

Andrew Walker I've no time for sceptics...hearing a lot from both sides..good and bad.. Fact of life unfortunately

Richard Arblaster that's why we don't mention the show and the newspaper, which has already been discredited over the years.

Andrew Walker I think Pauls doing a fantastic job in the hotseat ! Can't say it'd be an easy number

Originally Posted by amathyst87

Just been going through the back end of my banners Broker admin and have noticed I have a couple of yellow panels that are now 4 weeks old and still haven't finished, generally speaking i've noticed they usually take 3 weeks. It's also worth noting, as has already been pointed out, that there have been no panel updates in about 4 days, again, generally speaking, panels update every 1-2 days. Of course, this could be explained away by the magical technical difficulties fairy and gremlins in the engine. Time will tell.

Also waiting for a withdrawal request. Made it on the 7th and they have said all withdrawals made by the 14th Dec will be paid out to Banners Broker cards by the 20th. Hands up those who think I won't get it...

Once again, patience is the Banners Broker mantra!

I would have to think this would also be affecting the 'advertisers' correct? I mean, they pay good money for this 'service' didn't they? How can their 'ads' be seen if nothing is happening?

ID still there as affiliate allegedly. Demoted then eh? Or is it that BB need to bring in some big guns to up the ante? Guessing that may well be the case now. Drum up the business, clean out a few more people. So who lives in Manchester that attracts them to open an office there?

Originally Posted by Whip

Did you ask him why his upline told him 'after Christmas' when bb told them to make their claims up to Dec 14th? And did he request his money in that time?

No @Whip. different set of circumstances. Short version, He was in it for couple of weeks, and came to me asking about uploading passport and personal info. I checked about bb on the net, and warned him against it. When I told him bb was a ponzi, He asked upliner to get out of it, and get his money back. After a couple of calls his upliner stopped answering. I started complaining, and then his password was blocked. Simple as that, locked out.
Now his upliner says it will be all fixed after xmas break. Yes right lol.

Facebook BB page

Announced on today's information session:

Re the Nationwide UK tour in Jan that David Hooker and Lorenzo are doing in Jan, if you want them to visit your city, you need to let us know - (requesting them to visit your city.)

They also said that they are looking for a GM for their new arrangement in the UK and to run the office in Manchester

Silly me (see previous post). I didn't check Facebook did I.

Great job ad. No job spec, no salary details (paid in panels??), nothing. References *for company* available upon request - after you've submitted your ID

Originally Posted by Jerrygo

No @Whip. different set of circumstances. Short version, He was in it for couple of weeks, and came to me asking about uploading passport and personal info. I checked about bb on the net, and warned him against it. When I told him bb was a ponzi, He asked upliner to get out of it, and get his money back. After a couple of calls his upliner stopped answering. I started complaining, and then his password was blocked. Simple as that, locked out.
Now his upliner says it will be all fixed after xmas break. Yes right lol.

Ah. got it. thanks.

I'm going to apply for the GM position under a guise.

Jason

Originally Posted by Poyol

I'm going to apply for the GM position under a guise.

Jason

Chris Smith? Seems a good name to me

Originally Posted by Poyol

I'm going to apply for the GM position under a guise.

Jason

Don't forget to tell 'em you're a Maths/IT Genius. Don't worry they won't ask for any king of proof.

Got an email back from mastercard today, 8 days after I wrote them. They want more details.
Getting tired of writing all these emails. What is current address again of bb headquarters?

Originally Posted by Jerrygo

Got an email back from mastercard today, 8 days after I wrote them. They want more details.
Getting tired of writing all these emails. What is current address again of bb headquarters?

Well the current address is

Stellar Point, Inc.
5 Carlow Court
Whitby, ON L1N 9T7

However.... note that they are now called Stellar Point, Inc and that is where they will dodge any questions....

I will apply ... Mark my words!

Originally Posted by Poyol

I will apply ... Mark my words!

Am not doubting your intent at all. I wonder if they will be looking to recruit internally?

They already have their recruit.

Wayne Rooney has that job sewn up!! Thats why they are moving to manchester. Big rise in his wages then.

Originally Posted by AshKen1

Am not doubting your intent at all. I wonder if they will be looking to recruit internally?

The majority of suitable candidates are unfortunately otherwise occupied at the moment producing mailbags.....

Originally Posted by Jerrygo

Wayne Rooney has that job sewn up!! Thats why they are moving to manchester. Big rise in his wages then.

TwiceYaRooney?

Originally Posted by Whip

She's a jilted pimp that didn't get her ass kissed the way she thought it should.

It's only a scam in faiths eyes if admin don't treat her special....

Spot the similarities, folks:

http://www.chrissmithmanagement.com/...tact&Itemid=29

http://whois.domaintools.com/thebbtour.com

Hmmm... I wonder who we can ask to work out the odds of pure co-incidence?

Originally Posted by Julie Diligent

Spot the similarities, folks:

Chris Smith Management Inc - Contact

tHebbTour.com - BBtour

Hmmm... I wonder who we can ask to work out the odds of pure co-incidence?

Interesting that management company is on the 3rd floor and BB is on the 2nd floor.

Originally Posted by EagleOne

Interesting that management company is on the 3rd floor and BB is on the 2nd floor.

It's a UPS shipping center with self-serve mailbox service.

UPS Store The - 1-110 Cumberland St, Toronto, ON

Interesting though, the manager of 'Chris Smith Management' is a guy by the name of Greg Morrison. Looks like a legitimate company. If you look at his Facebook page one of his friends comments 'BB working again', yesterday (Monday)

https://www.facebook.com/greg.morrison

All this seems a little too much of a coincidence. Almost seems like there should be a connection here someplace and our Chris Smith CEO of BB has appropriated his name from the name of that artist management company...

this from NZ financial markets authority in nz

1. The entity does not appear to be a registered NZ company, see the Companies Office website HomePage | Companies Office The Official Site ;
2. The entity is not a registered financial services provider and would not appear to be providing a financial service, see the Companies Office website HomePage | Companies Office FSP ;
3. From the detail on the ‘Contact Us’ page of the entity’s website bannersbroker.com, it would appear the entity has offices in a number of different countries;
4. FMA is unable to comment on the operations and legitimacy of Banners Broker, FMA’s mandate is to administer Financial Markets legislation;
5. You may wish to consider information provided by the Ministry of Consumer Affairs regarding scams on Scams | Consumer Affairs ;
6. If you require further information or assurance with regard Banners Brokers, I suggest you seek legal advice.

A note to all the kiwi's reading this please feel free to message me I will happily act on your behalf if you would like to speak up about your bb experience but don't want to risk having your bb account locked.

Originally Posted by samuel.r

Almost seems like... our Chris Smith CEO of BB has appropriated his name from the name of that artist management company...

That's exactly what my 'spidey sense' told me, too, the instant I saw the Chris Smith Management Inc. address.