Thread: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

What also fascinates me is the psychobabble that some of the pro-BB crowd come out with.

"Only shooting stars break the mould"
and
"I feel there is a certainty of destination"

are two examples that I've seen on websites. But what the hell does it mean???

Finch, on his excellent site, has likened BB to a cult. I think he has a fair point. The BBers often slag off anyone who does not go along with their world view, calling them "losers" and "negative scammers", and seem to take the view that they are on the winning team just because they are making loadsamoney!!

Well....loads of virtual money. I think people are blinded by big numbers on a website, which they see as their earnings.........but until you have the money in your hand, it's all pie in the sky!

Live updates

Sweden and Iceland now have a new IC welcome page.

Organic Traffic -- we now have the first one that is product (Singular) oriented. Buzinga - good prices and discounts. You can take advantage of amazing offers (on what are most likely knock-off Dr Dre Beats. Even the originals are the crappiest known to mankind!) .. organic traffic for promoting **** their products through your choice network

PANELS -- panels are moving. Back office has not been updated, but I will get on to IT and make sure your panels get updated by end of this week. (Good on you Chris, get on to it like any normal CEO of a $100M+ company would. Don't you have a head of IT?)

Holiday - offices are closed. Support is closed. Support may be available in your local country. Stellarpoint in Canada will be closed until January 2nd.

And this

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Originally Posted by Hypanor

And this

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Seems they'll be recycling that one a few more times.

Just a suggestion, Banners Broker person.

Instead of deleting all the queries from members, why don't you do what real businesses do and fix bloody problems instead of burying your head in the sand and pretending everything is OK ???

Imagine what would happen if a bank or a real advertising company simply deleted all the complaints instead of dealing with them.

You wouldn't see any new customers for dust.

I wonder how long Paypal will be an option on Buzinga after they have been alerted to the link between the site and Banners Broker? Time starts... now!

Originally Posted by Hypanor

I wonder how long Paypal will be an option on Buzinga after they have been alerted to the link between the site and Banners Broker? Time starts... now!

They incriminate themselves:

You go to a site called TownBeats... decide to buy the headphones... get sent to a site called Buzinga... transact by PayPal with the untraceable "8136655 Canada Limited"... and then receive an email saying: "Thank you for registration at Buzinga's store!" from "mbarrett@bannersbroker.com".

Muppets!

Hey guys, I have a question to you, as of right now allied wallet just informed me that my CREDIT CARD info have been transferred to banners broker when I used it, I have two things to ask -

1) how the hell did this happen, allied wallet has an ewallet system, does that not mean that they load the money from your credit card to their site and then they pass it on to banners broker, I rembmer clearly I said load ewallet, then how the hell does banners broker have my card info? does anyone know how can this happen?

2) after I started reading and posting here I asked allied wallet to remove my credit card info from their site, after two weeks of ASKING again and again to remove the card info they just closed the account, it was ok until today I asked them to look in the account and they can still look in the info and stuff, what the hell? so my credit card is still there, what can I do?

oh and another thing, just got my money "back" from banners broker, well I waited a long time but it's out of there and guess what account does they use to pay in payza.. "paybannersbroker@gmail.com" not even their own email.

Originally Posted by JordanBright

Hey guys, I have a question to you, as of right now allied wallet just informed me that my CREDIT CARD info have been transferred to banners broker when I used it, I have two things to ask -

1) how the hell did this happen, allied wallet has an ewallet system, does that not mean that they load the money from your credit card to their site and then they pass it on to banners broker, I rembmer clearly I said load ewallet, then how the hell does banners broker have my card info? does anyone know how can this happen?

2) after I started reading and posting here I asked allied wallet to remove my credit card info from their site, after two weeks of ASKING again and again to remove the card info they just closed the account, it was ok until today I asked them to look in the account and they can still look in the info and stuff, what the hell? so my credit card is still there, what can I do?

oh and another thing, just got my money "back" from banners broker, well I waited a long time but it's out of there and guess what account does they use to pay in payza.. "paybannersbroker@gmail.com" not even their own email.

Hey Jordan if your that worried you can just ask your credit card provider to cancel the card and send you a new one, end of story!

Originally Posted by BB Defender

Hey Jordan if your that worried you can just ask your credit card provider to cancel the card and send you a new one, end of story!

but why, Allied wallet gave the card info without me knowing about it, why should I be the one to do all the work about it? I want to know if it's normal that a company that has an Ewallet pass the card info to the company, ewallet is something that means that you DON'T need to pass the credit card info, you just need to load it up in Allied wallet and then just use the money you have on there, nothing more and nothing from the credit card.

Originally Posted by JordanBright

but why, Allied wallet gave the card info without me knowing about it, why should I be the one to do all the work about it? I want to know if it's normal that a company that has an Ewallet pass the card info to the company, ewallet is something that means that you DON'T need to pass the credit card info, you just need to load it up in Allied wallet and then just use the money you have on there, nothing more and nothing from the credit card.

If you are worried, you may wish to have a chat with your card provider and ask for their advice as to what you should do. You don't want your card to be charged without your knowledge, so if that means they issue you a new card so be it. Also think about whether you need to do a credit check on yourself (think Experian and so on) to make sure that nothing else pops up (new card sir??). Again take advice about ID theft.

As to why, I can't answer as I don't know AW's policy. Better to be safe than sorry.

Originally Posted by JordanBright

but why, Allied wallet gave the card info without me knowing about it, why should I be the one to do all the work about it? I want to know if it's normal that a company that has an Ewallet pass the card info to the company, ewallet is something that means that you DON'T need to pass the credit card info, you just need to load it up in Allied wallet and then just use the money you have on there, nothing more and nothing from the credit card.

I would trust Allied Wallet as far as I can throw them (that's not very far)

http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/allied-wallet-bournemouth-england-dorset-c296327.html

For your own good do the work and cancel that card.

Originally Posted by JordanBright

2) after I started reading and posting here I asked allied wallet to remove my credit card info from their site, after two weeks of ASKING again and again to remove the card info they just closed the account, it was ok until today I asked them to look in the account and they can still look in the info and stuff, what the hell? so my credit card is still there, what can I do?

Call you credit card company and request they refund all payments . You can get back any payments you made over the last 30days in most juristictions. Ask them to do that. Then ask them to change your credit card and cancel the number they have and issue you with a new one. You will have to resubscribe to any standing orders or other regular payments. Then the credit card company will turn their artillery on Banners Broker.

Originally Posted by Beacon

Call you credit card company and request they refund all payments . You can get back any payments you made over the last 30days in most juristictions. Ask them to do that. Then ask them to change your credit card and cancel the number they have and issue you with a new one. You will have to resubscribe to any standing orders or other regular payments. Then the credit card company will turn their artillery on Banners Broker.

already passed the 30 day mark.. so can't do that, I will just cancel this card and ask for a new one, then they can't do anything with the number, it's just that I didn't think allied wallet is a scamming people like that.. still waiting for an answer from them for the question of why they gave my credit card info to banners broker without asking me before.

Another thing, from this blog - http://www.mark-stokes.com/category/banners-broker there was a post about the people that work in banners broker -

Chris Smith CEO
Rajit Dixit COO
Lorenzo Guarini-Cooperate Canada IC
David Hooker {Sensational speaker and very British} His role is International compliance and PR type ….43 years experience in the business
Grant D’eall- International Corporate Trainer.
Stephanie Schlacht Support Training manager.

do any of you have any info about all the people but chris and rajit? because I never heard of them before and maybe they are linked with some hyips and ponzis that came before banners.

Originally Posted by JordanBright

already passed the 30 day mark.. so can't do that, I will just cancel this card and ask for a new one, then they can't do anything with the number, it's just that I didn't think allied wallet is a scamming people like that.. still waiting for an answer from them for the question of why they gave my credit card info to banners broker without asking me before.

Another thing, from this blog - Banners Broker | Mark Stokes there was a post about the people that work in banners broker -

Chris Smith CEO
Rajit Dixit COO
Lorenzo Guarini-Cooperate Canada IC
David Hooker {Sensational speaker and very British} His role is International compliance and PR type ….43 years experience in the business
Grant D’eall- International Corporate Trainer.
Stephanie Schlacht Support Training manager.

do any of you have any info about all the people but chris and rajit? because I never heard of them before and maybe they are linked with some hyips and ponzis that came before banners.

what does their TOS say? I wouldn't doubt a clause snuck in there about sharing info.

Originally Posted by JordanBright

already passed the 30 day mark.. so can't do that,

I disagree. And it might not just be assisting you. One can argue the money was not a legit transaction. If it was a legit business then you can't get it back yes. But you are telling the Credit Card company you were defrauded by an illegal scam. Not alone will they freeze your card but flag any payments to any allied sources or scams. Direct them to this thread and the addresses people and businesses in it. Point out if they are an ethically responsible company they should act on such information. It may take some time but at least you are on the list of creditors.

... it's just that I didn't think allied wallet is a scamming people like that.. still waiting for an answer from them for the question of why they gave my credit card info to banners broker without asking me before.
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Are you sure allied wallet isnt also a scam? I dont know anything about them.
The credit card company and the regulator would be interested in their behaviour. You probably have a case against them as well to recover your damages.

Another thing, from this blogdo any of you have any info about all the people but chris and rajit? because I never heard of them before and maybe they are linked with some hyips and ponzis that came before banners.

yes I posted about one ther other day Banners Broker Brand Ambassador Lorenzo Guarini

There was a Lorenzo Guarini listed as an executive in Raj Dixit's housing scam.


and an excellent post by Ms Dilligent links his partner/wife with the scam.

http://www.realscam.com/f8/banners-b...html#post37239

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about the legit transaction, that will be a lie if I tell them that, I did do a transaction from my credit card to allied wallet, BUT I did not do a transaction to banners broker, only paid with what I loaded to my ewallet in alliedwallet.. so I can't lie about that.

what I'm going to do is talk about flagging payments to or from allied wallet sources.

about directing them to this thread, don't know about that..

I will wait to see if allied wallet will send an email until tomorrow and then we will see what I do..

it's kinda scary thinking that banners broker not only has and I.D picture and the I.D number of you they also got your credit card number and I'm sure the cvv is also in their hands.. with the I.D they can't do anything to me but with the credit info + the i.d.. that's a whole new story.

Originally Posted by JordanBright

already passed the 30 day mark.. so can't do that, I will just cancel this card and ask for a new one, then they can't do anything with the number, it's just that I didn't think allied wallet is a scamming people like that.. still waiting for an answer from them for the question of why they gave my credit card info to banners broker without asking me before.

Another thing, from this blog - Banners Broker | Mark Stokes there was a post about the people that work in banners broker -

Chris Smith CEO
Rajit Dixit COO
Lorenzo Guarini-Cooperate Canada IC
David Hooker {Sensational speaker and very British} His role is International compliance and PR type ….43 years experience in the business
Grant D’eall- International Corporate Trainer.
Stephanie Schlacht Support Training manager.

do any of you have any info about all the people but chris and rajit? because I never heard of them before and maybe they are linked with some hyips and ponzis that came before banners.

Lots of information on all of them, what do you want to know?


If it saves time, they're all scammers, and the involvement of any of them should raise a big red flag.....

Can someone please explain these "traffic packs" to me - in simple terms? What exacty are the, and just why are they necessary? Or why does BB say they are necessary?

I'd like to be clear.

"Only shooting stars break the mould"

Had to nip over to wiki as I just knew they'd have a great definition for this

"Shooting star is a common name for the visible path of a meteoroid as it enters the atmosphere to become a meteor. As it enters the atmosphere the meteor burns up into flames."

Basically shooting star = crash and burn. Says it all doesn't it?

Finch is right, it is very cult like. I wonder if anyone out there does de-briefs for ex-members of ponzi schemes. Sounds like it's needed.

Originally Posted by AshKen1

"Only shooting stars break the mould"

Had to nip over to wiki as I just knew they'd have a great definition for this

"Shooting star is a common name for the visible path of a meteoroid as it enters the atmosphere to become a meteor. As it enters the atmosphere the meteor burns up into flames."

Basically shooting star = crash and burn. Says it all doesn't it?

Finch is right, it is very cult like. I wonder if anyone out there does de-briefs for ex-members of ponzi schemes. Sounds like it's needed.

Finch says BB is a Cult so therefore it must be. That is now a fact! You people are behaving just like lemmings. at least analyse the situation before jumping into the ocean.

Originally Posted by BB Defender

Finch says BB is a Cult so therefore it must be. That is now a fact! You people are behaving just like lemmings. at least analyse the situation before jumping into the ocean.

Irony overload

Originally Posted by BB Defender

Finch says BB is a Cult so therefore it must be. That is now a fact! You people are behaving just like lemmings. at least analyse the situation before jumping into the ocean.

Well you will, of course, be able to provide an argument and empirical evidence that the current affiliate membership of BB does not exhibit any signs of being in a cult. Please do as soon as you can - you've seen the list of what does indicate it. We await your comments and rebuttal of the claim.

You saying things loudly (and often) doesn't convince anyone.

Originally Posted by BB Defender

Finch says BB is a Cult so therefore it must be. That is now a fact! You people are behaving just like lemmings. at least analyse the situation before jumping into the ocean.

I have an open mind on it. Di you do the quiz on page 10-12? http://members.shaw.ca/jeanaltemeyer...oritarians.pdf
Please reply with your answers and you can perform the analysis you requested.

Originally Posted by AshKen1

"Only shooting stars break the mould"

And re the "cultlike" suggestion
I doubt it is this sophisticated and whether the BB management have either the knowledge or exoperience but Neuro Linguistic Programming woudl use business terms "breaking the mould" is one and "shooting star" is one of four types of businesses (based on high/low growth and marker share ) in the growth share matrix - CompensationMaster - Article: Cash Cow, Shooting Star, Question Mark, or Dog?

People with a passing knowledge of marketing would have those terms in the back of their minds.