Thread: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

source - http://www.facebook.com/BannersBrokerProsperity
bannersbrokerprosperity response to a question asking if what realscam has to say is true

Bannersbrokerprosperity Banners Broker is an honest company.As proof the fact that it works Master Card!Company has a future.Write negative articles and people who do not know what Banners Broker is!https://www.facebook.com/pages/Work-...38117962961712. Beautiful day

tisk, tisk, bannersbrokerprosperity clearly DID NOT get the memo on not using mastercards reputation to legitimise a scam.

TERRY best you advise them on compliance and which words to use and not..........hurry

Furthermore: I found some "webinar" type posts online that, although unfortunately there is no face to the voice, the voice sounds alot like the voice in the video mentioned above. If it is the same person, as the video claims, one can see his desktop- i cant make out the details as i am on my smartphone, however it could provide some clues.

Chris Smith announcement at europe launch:
@19 seconds: "ok guys, sales page is online"

Banners Broker European Launch, 15th of July 2012 - YouTube

Desktop/webinar video with chris smith?(sounds to melike the guy from the video above):

banners broker news update with Chris Smith the Founder - YouTube

a question for mr stern.....bannersbroker regularly compares themselves to google...............my question is why does google not have to censor what words and phrases people use to describe them?

and regarding your answer on the q & a forum........really? a legitimate business cannot provide a contact for me to join your amazing company? is this standard business practice for all businesses too?

Banners Broker Update Webinar – 11th January 2013 | Empower Network

There is a webinar video on this page (sorry I don't know how to actually post it here) in which Chirs Smith speaks, if you want to hear his voice. About 11/12 minutes in, I think that is him. I'm not good with transatlantic accents so I couldn't say from where he hails.

You know how Terry Stern said(on Finch's site) that BB was not an advertising company? Here is something I found on a BB Facebook site called "Banners Broker Winning Team" on 3rd August 2012 (my emphasis is in bold):-

What is Banners Broker Business?



Banners Broker Business is an selling ads online network that manages the sourcing, publishing and gratification tracking of ads which make the connection between advertisers and publishers around the world. Banners Broker is definitely an internet advertising company that can help both advertisers and web owners capitalize within the power from the web. The online world is an authoritative marketing strategy that is likely to remain largely unsusceptible to the global economy whether whether it be strong, weak or even in recession. Banners Broker is surely an extensive selling ads online network with large scope and targeted reach.

Originally Posted by Della Cate

I think that is him. I'm not good with transatlantic accents so I couldn't say from where he hails.

I couldnt load this video, however i loaded and posted links (waiting on admin to approve 'em- im new here) to two others i found on youtube
Pretty certain its US, and pretty sure its east coast. Definitely not southern/midwest. Not sure about cali however i didnt hear any words/phrases out of the ordinary for east coast.

So according to Terry the two networks they are working with are Clicksor and openx.

Anyone got the info on the second one.

Not sure how definitive this info is but may offer something to review.

Originally Posted by hendyphilhendy

So according to Terry the two networks they are working with are Clicksor and openx.

Anyone got the info on the second one.

Not sure how definitive this info is but may offer something to review.

Would be interesting to know what capacity the 2 have between them. What capacity the 2 have dedicated to BB and is it enough to do what they claim.

- I'm guessing it is or they wouldn't have posted. Nothing Terry will say will be bu mistake. Its all by design.

Originally Posted by noname999

Would be interesting to know what capacity the 2 have between them. What capacity the 2 have dedicated to BB and is it enough to do what they claim.

- I'm guessing it is or they wouldn't have posted. Nothing Terry will say will be bu mistake. Its all by design.

You'd think a big customer like Banners Broker would merit mention on the OpenX website, but apparently not...

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Not even a whiff of them on the Client Success Stories page.

Odd that.

Originally Posted by Theseus

You'd think a big customer like Banners Broker would merit mention on the OpenX website, but apparently not...

Screen shot 2013-01-16 at 22.07.04.jpg

Not even a whiff of them on the Client Success Stories page.

Odd that.

I'm sure Ian Driscoll could write a blinding testimonial for them, on how he's made his offshore millions

Originally Posted by Beethoven

I'm sure Ian Driscoll could write a blinding testimonial for them, on how he's made his offshore millions

It's funny, you'd think if he's stolen $4 million they'd have stopped working with him, or even locked his account, I mean mere mortals get their accounts locked for daring to voice concerns that all may not be well....

Originally Posted by hendyphilhendy

So according to Terry the two networks they are working with are Clicksor and openx.

Anyone got the info on the second one.

Not sure how definitive this info is but may offer something to review.

I'm just working from memory so could be wrong, but I thought openx was an ad server, you install yourself.

I'm probably wrong, but will check it out.

Originally Posted by marsh56

This is my first post here. I am a member of BB and do agree after further investigation that it is indeed a Ponzi.

However, I also believe in making sure info posted on forums is accurate. I do have a BB pre-paid card. To be clear, the message quoted above refers to an INTERNAL withdrawal to the card.

This would NOT affect the actual balance on a card, nor would it affect any purchases with the card. Just wanted to correct the record.

Mark

Welcome Mark. Glad to see you here.

Originally Posted by hendyphilhendy

Welcome Mark. Glad to see you here.

Thank you, Phil. This is a great group!

Mark

Originally Posted by marsh56

Thank you, Phil. This is a great group!

Mark

There you go then Mark, this group is great. We are nice and polite to represenatives of BB whenever we can be. There are moments when we do get a bit sarcastic (with some posters and each other) so bear with us when that happens ;)

Any help you can give in terms of information or leads gratefully received. If you don't feel you want to post publically, you will have seen who are the most prolific posters on here, simply drop them a Private Message. Yell if you want help on that as well. Obviously, someone has probably told you all this, so if I'm duplicating effort I apologise.

The same courtesy will be extended to everyone else who comes on here.

Have a good day

Originally Posted by AshKen1

There you go then Mark, this group is great. We are nice and polite to represenatives of BB whenever we can be. There are moments when we do get a bit sarcastic (with some posters and each other) so bear with us when that happens ;)

Any help you can give in terms of information or leads gratefully received. If you don't feel you want to post publically, you will have seen who are the most prolific posters on here, simply drop them a Private Message. Yell if you want help on that as well. Obviously, someone has probably told you all this, so if I'm duplicating effort I apologise.

The same courtesy will be extended to everyone else who comes on here.

Have a good day

Certainly if I have anything of value, I will post it here one way or another. Honestly I do not currently have the time nor the technical ability to do some of the in-depth research I see here!

One comment I can make on Stern's "explanation" of how BB apparently works is that it is a bunch of hooey in my opinion. The details actually sound like an interesting business model on paper but I do not see how it can work in a practical manner.

If it WERE true, it at least begs the question of why payouts are seldom, if ever, made on time. Stern makes it sound like BB should be awash in cash flow. If so, then why the delays?

As a member it is clear to me that their site is severely lacking, tech support is horrible and affiliate support is even worse! Giving BB the benefit of EVERY doubt, they are at best a poorly run wannabe Google competitor (laughable).

At worst--and notice the irony--BB is a VERY WELL RUN Ponzi. Funny how that works.

By the way, today is supposed to be the latest big pay day. And the clock is ticking.

Mark

Originally Posted by Della Cate

You know how Terry Stern said(on Finch's site) that BB was not an advertising company? Here is something I found on a BB Facebook site called "Banners Broker Winning Team" on 3rd August 2012 (my emphasis is in bold):-

What is Banners Broker Business?



Banners Broker Business is an selling ads online network that manages the sourcing, publishing and gratification tracking of ads which make the connection between advertisers and publishers around the world. Banners Broker is definitely an internet advertising company that can help both advertisers and web owners capitalize within the power from the web. The online world is an authoritative marketing strategy that is likely to remain largely unsusceptible to the global economy whether whether it be strong, weak or even in recession. Banners Broker is surely an extensive selling ads online network with large scope and targeted reach.

Haha! Looks like someone used an online translator! Id venture to say thats probably an "affiliates" page and notthing official?

Originally Posted by RobinHoodlumTJ

Haha! Looks like someone used an online translator! Id venture to say thats probably an "affiliates" page and notthing official?

LOL, I can hear it now! It's the "Members" fault!

Originally Posted by baylee

LOL, I can hear it now! It's the "Members" fault!

Hah! Pretty genius (unfortunately) having everyone else market their scam, and send out the misleading information that could get them in trouble, for them. Not only that, they get to prove they're "concerned" about affiliates being misleading by locking them out pocketing their cash. Win/win/win. Crazy shiz.

While people are asking about Chris Smith, I came across this. I don't know how much credence it can be given, but it is interesting, especially if you look up "World Games Inc". I couldn't find anyone named Chris Smith linked to it mind you, so it may be a complete red herring. Apologies if so. CS.jpg

Originally Posted by Della Cate

While people are asking about Chris Smith, I came across this. I don't know how much credence it can be given, but it is interesting, especially if you look up "World Games Inc". I couldn't find anyone named Chris Smith linked to it mind you, so it may be a complete red herring. Apologies if so. CS.jpg

WGI thread at scam.com

The Canadian police have arrested 8 of the major promotors of WGI in Canada

Anyone know who they were?

Some of the anti BB brigade are actually worse then the pimps and shills. Please keep all posts here for now.

(Banging my head off a brick wall...)

This response from Mr Stern is unacceptable

Originally Posted by tdstern

Alright, let me see I can address the multitude of questions posted here....and noname999, if you want to try and harness in all of this and put it forward, I'd appreciate it.

@RockLion,
You may not understand why the company is requiring you to fill in that information, however, it's being done legally. What BBI has asked of you is fair and in no way compromises the integrity of either you or doing business with BBI, and as such, BBI can require every affiliate complete a poll of this nature without issue. I commend your attempt from once again trying to distract our attempts and getting to the real issues here, but once again, this tree bears no fruit.

Thank You.

Originally Posted by RockLion

Mr Stern,

I respectfully disagree with that assessment. I don't need to understand why I need to fill in that information.
The point is this survey should not comprise the integrity of me being able to access the functions of the dashboard.

The survey does compromise that integrity.

It is not fair to demand I do a survey to gain access to my property.

Banners Broker have also taken away my equitable position to access the dashboard and continue using my e-wallet, managing my inventory and purchasing panels, Traffic packs and qualifying those panels with the traffic packs ..

The issue is this poll does have the issue of compromising the integrity of me being able to :-

1) Fund my e-wallet
2) Purchase panels
3) Purchase a Traffic Pack
4) Qualify my panels

In what ways did I distract you from getting to the real issues ?
Are you able to describe the real issues, and if so, Please let us know what you think the real issues are ?

I thank you for helping this tree bear significant fruit as you are the one now promoting and endorsing criminal and unprofessional behavior from both banners Broker and Stellar Point Inc.

Shame on you !

Originally Posted by RockLion

This response from Mr Stern is unacceptable

Yes, Yes it is. But not unexpected.