Thread: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

Originally Posted by Poyol

Imagine 'ping' as a "HELLO" to a server. The only reasons a server wouldn't say "HELLO" back is if it was OFF, been instructed not to reply to "HELLO"s or the path didn't exist.

Ah! Maybe with all that money owed to them by those scurvy affiliates, they can't afford to pay their bills. So someone, somewhere, has switched it off?

Now we sit and wait.....

Originally Posted by Poyol

Banners Broker server not responding to any ping requests.
Strange ...

Jason

Code:

traceroute bannersbroker.com 
...
7 te0-7-0-0.ccr22.fra03.atlas.cogentco.com (130.117.14.9) 2.389 ms 
8 te0-2-0-2.ccr22.ams03.atlas.cogentco.com (130.117.1.65) 7.691 ms 
9 te0-2-0-2.ccr22.lpl01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.37.118) 17.502 ms 
10 te0-4-0-3.ccr22.ymq02.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.44.209) 95.559 ms 
11 te0-1-0-6.ccr22.yyz02.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.42.237) 101.423 ms 
12 te0-5-0-2.ccr21.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.6.154) 106.153 ms 
13 *

I never traced it before but packets cutoff at 154.54.6.154,
i don't know if its a new route or it always went that path.

but BB neighbors IP are fine http://199.189.84.21 and http://199.189.84.19

Originally Posted by Poyol

Imagine 'ping' as a "HELLO" to a server. The only reasons a server wouldn't say "HELLO" back is if it was OFF, been instructed not to reply to "HELLO"s or the path didn't exist.

so basically, no one should ever have their server turned off? What about if it was being worked on or up graded, would it be turned off for those tasks?

Originally Posted by NikSam

Code:

traceroute bannersbroker.com 
...
7 te0-7-0-0.ccr22.fra03.atlas.cogentco.com (130.117.14.9) 2.389 ms 
8 te0-2-0-2.ccr22.ams03.atlas.cogentco.com (130.117.1.65) 7.691 ms 
9 te0-2-0-2.ccr22.lpl01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.37.118) 17.502 ms 
10 te0-4-0-3.ccr22.ymq02.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.44.209) 95.559 ms 
11 te0-1-0-6.ccr22.yyz02.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.42.237) 101.423 ms 
12 te0-5-0-2.ccr21.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.6.154) 106.153 ms 
13 *

I never traced it before but packets cutoff at 154.54.6.154,
i don't know if its a new route or it always went that path.

I never thought to run a tracert.

Good thinking.
We need to do a bit more digging this way.

Jason

Originally Posted by Brenda

so basically, no one should ever have their server turned off? What about if it was being worked on or up graded, would it be turned off for those tasks?

Hi Brenda,

You'd think that a multi-million dollar (cash rich) company would have a back up server.

Jason

Originally Posted by Poyol

Hi Brenda,

You'd think that a multi-million dollar (cash rich) company would have a back up server.

Jason

You would think that. Probably it's hidden behind a panel somewhere....



Somebody did say last week (I think it was Gregg) that they would be lucky to make it until Monday. Hmmmmmmm

Originally Posted by AshKen1

You would think that. Probably it's hidden behind a panel somewhere....



Somebody did say last week (I think it was Gregg) that they would be lucky to make it until Monday. Hmmmmmmm

I'll settle for today :)

Originally Posted by Brenda

I'll settle for today :)

Fingers crossed but not holding my breath. Some of their victims still have cash so why go yet?

ok, guys i really tried, but it took Mike about 10 mins before he told me he can not discuss it with me:
BB_serverlot.jpg

Can someone with techie experience please explain what this means?

Interesting 19 3 2013.jpg

This comes up if I try to go to the website on Chrome. But if I use firefox, it tells me file not found.

Curiouser and curiouser

https://www.facebook.com/BannersBrok...ndUpdates/info

The Facebook page for Banners Broker worldwide
Lists
Contact Info
Phone Skype I.D- bannerbrokers
Email info@online2profit.com
Website Online 2 Profit Banners Broker Worldwide

Now the facebnook page does list the upline as http://www.bannersbroker.com/markmain

Now I conducted the following whois lookup of of Online 2 Profit Banners Broker Worldwide

Registrant

JOHN O MAHONY
Atlantic House, 8 West Beach Cobh
Cobh, MUNSTER
IE

This appears to be:
John O' Mahony | LinkedIn

Who also happens to registered with the financial regulator

Financial Service Provider Profile

In many cases the regulator only registers the interest and does not regulate the profession which is left to the professional bodies e.g. law society for solicitors, or professional groups for insurance or accountants, Kings Inn for barristers etc.

At least they have to register but surely a professional in accounting or investment should really be "struck off" or equivalent if they are involved in ponzis without querying the ponzi? Surely their professional group have policies on this?

In particular the guy has a history of dealing with the "grey hair" element of the population
http://hb.betterregulation.com/exter...Mar%202013.pdf

Note the reference to "seniors money Ireland" ....And he is also involved in pensions?

People who know about real investments (especially supplying them to old vulnerable people )should not be involved in Ponzis like this and should identify it as a scam from a mile off.

Originally Posted by Poyol

Hi Brenda,

You'd think that a multi-million dollar (cash rich) company would have a back up server.

Jason

My understanding is Banners Broker do not own any servers at all.

It sure gets a lot of maintenance, that BB site....

Screen shot 2013-03-19 at 18.32.24.jpg

Hypanor, you did a lot of work on compiling that list of domain names, but for those of us who are not au fait with these kinds of things, why is it significant?

I am sorry to be dim, it's been a long day, but I'd really appreciate it if someone could explain for the dimwits (like me!) amongst us.

Thanking you in advance, Della.

I only get "file not found"

Originally Posted by Newto

I only get "file not found"

Yes, so do I, but I also get this on checking:-

BB down 19th March.jpg

It's quite interesting to read the comments attached to this page while you are at it.

Bannersbroker.com - Is Banners Broker Down Right Now?

And now I get this:-

BB 19th March 2.jpg

So take your pick!

Even when the site is down they're still trying to extract cash from the shills.

"Our shaky business is on the rocks, you have no access to you accounts, the prepaid card is finish, but please, go and buy tickets to the tour"

Get real

Something in my belly tells me its the end. How can anyone, even the most die-hard affiliates still believe all the stories of technical problems, maintenance issues or god knows what and how can Mr.S. and his cronies still believe that they can make people believe. Its beyond me.

Thanks Della Carte, I will check this is it down right now link.

Originally Posted by Della Cate

And now I get this:-

BB 19th March 2.jpg

So take your pick!

Interesting no UK phone number! What happened to their wonderful Manchester/Bolton office?

well it may go something like this....................... They think its all over!!!!!! IT IS NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Della Cate

Hypanor, you did a lot of work on compiling that list of domain names, but for those of us who are not au fait with these kinds of things, why is it significant?

It isnt the list of domains although in itself that is significant since it is a list of useless empty "fronts" with little or not content.
It is the people to which they are registered as well.
Note that "the BB team" or "management" frequently comes up on announcements.
I mean anyone could say "Chris smith here" and post all sorts of stuff.
We for example could easily set up a fake BB site and start posting as Chris smith. the "real" chris Smith could do nothing about it as he doesnt exist. ther is a guy who turns up with Raj at events but nobody ever saw a passport, drivers licence , Bank account cheque book etc. from him. No past history. No pictures as a kid. No college record ( in spite of the endless claims of his academic record)

So BB might well be doing the same thing ( although I doubt Raj and co. want many others having access to member data. They are way to greedy for that but might not be smart enough to realise how important it is to keep the info to themselves. Thats probably how all the different top people got "fired" from BB they were trusted with member data - no honour amoung thieves. )

Anyway there are obviously people at the next level down who are monitoring the net, or posting messages as "The BB team". There are also people who have made thousands maybe tens of thousands and who want the whole thing to keep turning over. Okay the hundreds of thousands or millions are going to a select few at the top but the next level are getting some money. They are the ones at the top of these internet chains. They are "stand alone2 but they use the BB brand and the money coming from their downlines is going to BB and not to them - they only get a "cut".

Put it another way....
suppose there were a hundred people avoiding tax by putting their money in an offshore bank?
Or they scammed people by setting up a charity to build churches and then disappeared and nobody knew what had happened to the "save the church" group?

Now suppose someone got the names and addresses of the people operating the "save the churches fund" or the names and addresses of all the depositors in the offshore bank. do you think that it might be useful to have such information published?

Originally Posted by sascode3

well it may go something like this....................... They think its all over!!!!!! IT IS NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Don't be so sure.

From the BB Test Card*

We are in communication with them and they have mentioned that they need up to 24 hours to restore services.

Are we, or are we not, in the 21st Century?

24 hours to restore services? Who are BB kidding?

All rhetorical questions I hasten to add.


*The thing that used to be put up on BBC when there was nothing to watch. Those were the days......

" It's ok guys. I just heard that there is an issue with some flux capacitors on the 'INTERNET' engine that is running the blind network and affecting the fluctuations inherent in the smooth running of Banners brokers. Keep the faith guys. BB rocks!"

Just found this on the official BB Facebook site. What on earth are flux capacitors ???