Thread: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

Originally Posted by AshKen1

Hello to markh. Great to have some further expertise as some of us, sadly, are not gifted in computer savvyspeak.

Hey Ashken. I do apologise for that. I guess my angle was trying to fight geekspeak with geekspeak. The BB team are always using techspeak to confuse people but it doesn't add up. I know when somebody is pulling my leg - I've been with clients who've had past developers do the same thing.

As for cronjob, littleroundman hit the nail on the head. They boast they have this automated engine but it appears to be controlled manually. For example, one affiliate stated that everytime he hit refresh, panels would roll up at one stage. That means he was triggering it himself just by loading the page. A very revealing bug.

"The way it was working is that every time you go to the yellow view panel page, for example, your older yellows rollup, 3 at a time, each time you hit the page or refresh it", BB Positive Learning Centre (4 April 2013).

Here's a term to learn LOL:

Security through obscurity - Masking vulnerabilities in the system with confusion! Seems it doesn't just apply to I.T.

Originally Posted by littleroundman

For a full explanation in small (but computerspeak) words, go HERE

In simple terms, it's a small program which runs in the background rather than being under the operators' direct control.

Thank you kindly. Now understand it.

From BB page on FB - more missing post

4 April - more deletions.jpg

Originally Posted by markh

Hey Ashken. I do apologise for that. I guess my angle was trying to fight geekspeak with geekspeak. The BB team are always using techspeak to confuse people but it doesn't add up. I know when somebody is pulling my leg - I've been with clients who've had past developers do the same thing.

As for cronjob, littleroundman hit the nail on the head. They boast they have this automated engine but it appears to be controlled manually. For example, one affiliate stated that everytime he hit refresh, panels would roll up at one stage. That means he was triggering it himself just by loading the page. A very revealing bug.

"The way it was working is that every time you go to the yellow view panel page, for example, your older yellows rollup, 3 at a time, each time you hit the page or refresh it", BB Positive Learning Centre (4 April 2013).

Here's a term to learn LOL:

Security through obscurity - Masking vulnerabilities in the system with confusion! Seems it doesn't just apply to I.T.

B -B -B in other words.... Bullsh*t Baffles Brains

No worries, we all have jargon in our lives. Most of us don't use it to confuse and con others though!

Originally Posted by wakeupwankers

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Welcome, Wuw (I think).

For the sake of your blood-pressure and gastrointestinal tract, might I respectfully suggest you wean yourself off the Alex Jones Channel. (And I say that as a wide-awake 'conspiracist'.)

Originally Posted by AshKen1

B -B -B in other words.... Bullsh*t Baffles Brains

No worries, we all have jargon in our lives. Most of us don't use it to confuse and con others though!

In reality, that's how all online HYIP ponzis operate.

Behind the scenes a "script" or "daemon" or "cronjob" or a series of them is running, with instructions which read something like:

At <insert time> every <insert time period> update <insert database name> to indicate <insert field> value has increased by <insert %>

BINGO !!!!

Every day the victim member logs in his/her accounts' "numbers-on-a-screen" shows it has increased in value by the amount dictated by the HYIPs' "programmer"

Originally Posted by EagleOne

'Welcome to RS. Thanks for your comments. After all that you said, BB is still a Ponzi and always has been a Ponzi. The people running it are crooks. The people promoting it are crooks.

No hate, no ego, no remorse for warning people this is a Ponzi and to not invest. There is no real business. The only business BB has is organized stealing. Sorry you do not see it that way but reality sucks. Learn to deal with it. Oh by the way, you left out that Social Security is a Ponzi.

Eagleone, on a personal level I'm so happy that neither you or anyone felt these points in WUW's post worth individual comment, on so many levels, they are breathtaking.

For the record I'd just like to say ( IMO, of course)

welcome back Terry/David/Chris
we must be really hurting your pretendy business
rather than spend your time writing posts, take an hour out to read some of the deleted facebook BB posts, understand the real fear those posters are experiencing as the reality is dawning that their precious money may be lost

Finally, anyone who read that post of WUM's can surely now understand the pressure tactics that can be used to sign up new recruits !

So I see BB's latest(...and greatest) excuse for delays is that there has been a worldwide internet crash

Of course if thats the case, there is no point in me writing this post as you cannot see it...

Come on BB drones, please tell me you don't believe this ****.

Wow. I have seen some illogical posts by bb defenders. But that rambling garbage by WUW was absolutely by far the most demented yet. 9/11 conspiracies, Aliens, Esp. Slobber dripping on the keyboard. I dont think that post will ever be topped.

Originally Posted by Jerrygo

Wow. I have seen some illogical posts by bb defenders. But that rambling garbage by WUW was absolutely by far the most demented yet. 9/11 conspiracies, Aliens, Esp. Slobber dripping on the keyboard. I dont think that post will ever be topped.

All that to justify taking people's hard earned money, on a fingers crossed basis, that that person will ever see that money again while at the same time, selling them a dream !

Originally Posted by noname999

So I see BB's latest(...and greatest) excuse for delays is that there has been a worldwide internet crash

Of course if thats the case, there is no point in me writing this post as you cannot see it...

Come on BB drones, please tell me you don't believe this ****.

worldwide internet crash???? Must have missed that, probably too busy on the net to notice

Ok am a bit confused, over on Finch's site, Diann has posted that BB are no longer using payza in the UK as of 4th April, '13

Just found this, looks like they pulled out of the UK in Oct '12

Payza UK Service Suspension - Newsletter, 24th October

Just came accross this link on another site. Penn & Teller: Bullshit! - Easy Money - YouTube
It is Penn and tellers take on pyramids and mlms. A bit long, and a bit rude. But lots of clues to the nature of bb. The salesmen are called consultants, which penn ridicules. They also do a skitt on area 51. WUW might like to have a look at that.

Originally Posted by Brenda

welcome back Terry/David/Chris
we must be really hurting your pretendy business
rather than spend your time writing posts, take an hour out to read some of the deleted facebook BB posts, understand the real fear those posters are experiencing as the reality is dawning that their precious money may be lost

Finally, anyone who read that post of WUM's can surely now understand the pressure tactics that can be used to sign up new recruits !

Well said, Brenda. But don't you mean pretend business(es) lol. Apparently they are now getting into website building for clients. The best part --- slave labour creates the articles for a fraction of a qualified yellow panel. Reminds me of the loyal ancient egyptians building the pryramids. My concern is for my friend who is still in the denial stage. She is shooting out articles. She could be getting paid $450 a month to do it here Canadian Telecommuting (LOL)

Check out dyzmedia.com said to be located at.

181 Bay Street,
Toronto, Canada

The geniuses behind 150cash, popcornpanel etc. All have exactly the same IP address How long has this dzy site been operating for - last I saw it was parked? In my rigorous weeks of research I missed it!

Originally Posted by wakeupwankers

not our fault you got in too late and can't get your money back.

Another funny one from Fb:

Jim Morrison Just heard from a valued business assoicate and mentor, that was on to Manchester office, and apparently the interweb is a little bit broke at the moment due to the overwhelming traffic on 'The blind' network, and thats what causing the slow 'capping' of the various coloured panels. So, that's awesome news ghoys. BB rocks.Yaye! Hurray! etc.

Originally Posted by Newto

Another funny one from Fb:

Jim Morrison Just heard from a valued business assoicate and mentor, that was on to Manchester office, and apparently the interweb is a little bit broke at the moment due to the overwhelming traffic on 'The blind' network, and thats what causing the slow 'capping' of the various coloured panels. So, that's awesome news ghoys. BB rocks.Yaye! Hurray! etc.

You just couldn't make it up!

J

Originally Posted by noname999

So I see BB's latest(...and greatest) excuse for delays is that there has been a worldwide internet crash

Of course if thats the case, there is no point in me writing this post as you cannot see it...

Come on BB drones, please tell me you don't believe this ****.

Real Mafia War Online; Could Crash the Global Internet | Rational Arrogance

Meanwhile, over on the BannersBrokerNetwork FB page....

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Originally Posted by Theseus

Meanwhile, over on the BannersBrokerNetwork FB page....

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that's the strange thing about India, you can never get a proper handle on what's going on there. No fanfare launches for the new alleged Bangalore office, no announcements that the legal probs are fixed, not much interaction from Indian affiliates from within India ( I know there are a lot of Asian affiliates worldwide) no evidence of much going on there but yet I'd say the membership is huge ?? If this is true and it's 17 more hours old........

Actually WUW got confused. He thought posting here counted as one of his blog posts so his panels would move.

Originally Posted by Theseus

Meanwhile, over on the BannersBrokerNetwork FB page....

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...and incidentally. Surats FB page says that he WORKS at BB?

Originally Posted by EagleOne

Actually WUW got confused. He thought posting here counted as one of his blog posts so his panels would move.

well then someone should tell him you can stop at 450 words, no bonus's for novels

Found something humorous today. Apparently Mark Ghobril, who is now a self - proclaimed BB millionaire, has posted a Q&A session explaining all about BB (with numbers!) on his website. It's not apparent who is asking the questions, but I got a chuckle out of imagining it being a Chris Smith hand puppet.

Hmm, you hurting for traffic, Mark, or are you continuing your quest to help out the average Joe now that you're a millionaire thanks to BB? Thanks for posting a link to sign up under you. This is totally legal in the U.S., right? I just find it funny that you haven't promoted BB in years and now there's a blog-ish post.

Mark Ghobril Banners Broker Training

Oh, and maybe you can spend some of that million on an editor. Your typos hurt my eyes after awhile.

Originally Posted by Brenda

well then someone should tell him you can stop at 450 words, no bonus's for novels

Or he thought it would count as all his blog posts needed for the day.

Originally Posted by silly sally

Found something humorous today. Apparently Mark Ghobril, who is now a self - proclaimed BB millionaire, has posted a Q&A session explaining all about BB (with numbers!) on his website. It's not apparent who is asking the questions, but I got a chuckle out of imagining it being a Chris Smith hand puppet.

Hmm, you hurting for traffic, Mark, or are you continuing your quest to help out the average Joe now that you're a millionaire thanks to BB? Thanks for posting a link to sign up under you. This is totally legal in the U.S., right? I just find it funny that you haven't promoted BB in years and now there's a blog-ish post.

Mark Ghobril Banners Broker Training

Oh, and maybe you can spend some of that million on an editor. Your typos hurt my eyes after awhile.

Someone should tell this BB millionaire to update his training classes schedule. All of them are for 2012. Not a one for 2013, and it is April already. Nothing like an absentee trainer.

Ya think he knows it is over.