Thread: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

Checked on Google for BB and got the message that the security certificate has expired. (https no longer applies).
On Firefox, states it's an untrusted connection
IE - problem with security of website

How interesting. Anyone else want to have a look to double check what I've just found? Thanks!

Expired yesterday

Originally Posted by Brenda

does this not open up a new can of worms under the data protection act? If Hooker is writing directly to BB affiliates, he is crossing a DP line. Oh, the irony, getting away with conning individuals of their money, getting done for using others details without their permission!

Unfortunately for the members, they have consented to their information being made available to third parties.

How many of the Banners Broker affiliates / members / victims do you think have read the complete Banners Broker Policies and Procedures from go to whoa ??

Having successfully conned thousands of people out of millions of dollars, it's highly unlikely Chris Smith and co are going to be worried about a little matter of sharing of the personal details of the victims.

Bottom line: it's fraud and always was fraud.

Originally Posted by Jerrygo

Expired yesterday

I wonder if that's related to the flurry of activity on the FB pages, cleaning everything up etc. Now with this email spamming by Hooker and his pals.

One question for LRM whoever regarding CC information. Some people I understand only used STP/Payza etc to fund their BB accounts. Would the issue regarding details being used elsewhere still stand? (I'm asking this as some people may be reading this page for the first time)

Shouldn't get our hopes up regarding the end as we've seen this so many times before now.

LRM - This was posted a few seconds after your reply to Brenda

Now I do have to say something. BB HAS worked out for many people. Like everyone HYIP - the time is limited, in which you can earn money.
The point is, the the terms are way to long before you can withdraw money - does't matter with STP or PAYZA...

I have spent only USD 400 and got USD 494 out of the system before it collapsed. I do still aktivate panels, just in case they will pay on of my severals withdraw request out.

After BB I do have searched other HYIP programs and now I test some of them.

When you want to know which and how I act, visit the link in my signature...

I found this organization on the net http:// www.ico.gov.uk. If I understood it well the ICO is the UK’s independent authority set up to uphold information rights in the public interest, promoting openness by public bodies and data privacy for individuals.I am not saying this will or could help,just thinking that it might have something to do with the BB case.On the site they wrote,I quote " If you have a complaint about the way an organisation has handled your personal information – perhaps they hold information about you that’s wrong, they have held it for too long or they have lost it – we may be able to help."

Today I reached the 10,000th Dollar in pending withdrawals at BB. (Y)
Get the champagne bottles ready!

Now I do have to say something. BB HAS worked out for many people. Like everyone HYIP - the time is limited, in which you can earn money.
The point is, the the terms are way to long before you can withdraw money - does't matter with STP or PAYZA...

I have spent only USD 400 and got USD 494 out of the system before it collapsed. I do still aktivate panels, just in case they will pay on of my severals withdraw request out.

After BB I do have searched other HYIP programs and now I test some of them.

When you want to know which and how I act, visit the link in my signature...

Promoting your shady ventures on a scam-busting forum is really not the best idea.

Originally Posted by hassijun

I have spent only USD 400 and got USD 494 out of the system before it collapsed. ...

This guy is going to make $94 today..

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His money is coming from work, for 1000s of years it has served the world well. People pay him to deliver hot tasty Pizza, smile, and say thank you here's a few bucks. Your $94 came from one of the hundreds of thousands of suckers in Banners Broker who lost money.

Between your peanuts and the folks who claim to have made hundreds of thousands in Banners Broke that they can't access Chris and Raj must need a constant supply of chapstick from all the laughing they do on the way to the bank.

Originally Posted by hassijun

Now I do have to say something. BB HAS worked out for many people. Like everyone HYIP - the time is limited, in which you can earn money.
The point is, the the terms are way to long before you can withdraw money - does't matter with STP or PAYZA...

I have spent only USD 400 and got USD 494 out of the system before it collapsed. I do still aktivate panels, just in case they will pay on of my severals withdraw request out.

After BB I do have searched other HYIP programs and now I test some of them.

When you want to know which and how I act, visit the link in my signature...

You are one of the reasons there are companies like BB. I would have thought you learned your lesson from BB but it is apparent you haven't. 99% of the HYIPs are scams like BB. Why would anyone trust you to sign up under you to join another scam? Tell me which scam I should invest in so I can do my due diligence on those companies.

Over on MMG, the Guardianuno has posted a fab picture of our old friend, that "world class speaker", David Hooker:-

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It has bothered me for a while, trying to think of whom he reminded me. And then it came to me, a popular comedy character from a few years ago.....Yes, Swiss Toni!

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Appears that the problems with the BB security certificate were just another glitch.

But look at the (mostly) adoring comments this provokes!

Bb server sept.jpg

Where are all these people coming from, and why are they all suddenly posting like mad on the BB FB page????

Originally Posted by ICCBernd

Today I reached the 10,000th Dollar in pending withdrawals at BB. (Y)
Get the champagne bottles ready!

Congratulations!
Now here's a real challenge for you - to buy the champagne bottles with BB earnings !!!

Your enthusiasm will no doubt wear off at least as quickly as mine did, my pending withdrawals total just over $1200, my earliest amounts $44 and low $100's from Feb and March this year, then a $500 and a few $250's after the limit, not a single one has been paid. Support tickets are now answered, or answer is irrelevant or answer to another question not asked.

BB isn't even making an effort making token payments of $44 or $100 - it's been months since somebody has been able to produce a Payza or STP screenshot showing a payment made.

BB is insolvent, ie: Bankrupt. I probably wouldn't be too far off in assuming that current revenue flows, including any advertising, such as the banners on the BB site, plus any income stream from that CreateMyBanners site would hardly be enough to cover the cost of Chris's personal expenses, let alone make affiliate payments.

The fact that affiliate payments have been about as absent as they can be in recent months, it's safe to assume they're in "Wind Down mode" - this is evidenced also by their retreating back to Belize, domiciling company headquarters there. Belize is a tax haven, but not as developed and popular as say, the bahamas, cayman islands, etc - not being as developed, it's much harder to unveil the banking and director secrecy in Belize than Cayman or Bahamas in relation to corporate matters, fraud, money laundering and the like. Much harder making progress in Belize winding up a company that's fraudulent, compared to Cayman, Bahamas, IOM or Liechtenstein.

It's only a matter of time before it'll happen. You'll fire up Banners Broker and the response will be 'website not found' and that's it. All over.

Best comment of the day on the Facebook page, Banners Winning.

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Made me laugh that did...

Remember the hoopla from BB regarding their evaluation by W3snoop ?
They posted everywhere their boasts of Bannersbroker.com being worth $1Billion.
Daily Unique visitors 916,603,340. Daily Revenue US $3,985,232
It gave a spark of hope to the shellshocked affiliates, after months of bad news.
Our information here on RS regarding worried affiliates logging into BB ten times a day to check for payouts being counted as unique visitors. Or pointing out that a large percentage of "unique visitors" had actually come from one page of the site to the homepage, or other manipulations, had little effect on the false hope of affiliates.
Well, information was provided to W3snoop, (and a couple of other evaluation sites), and they were asked to do a more in depth calculation of BB website. No answer was received from W3snoop.
But on checking, things have changed just a little.

There are genuine true believers and real victims in any HYIP ponzi fraud and Banners Broker is no different.

On the other hand, there are real some real dumbasses as well:



I mean, there's positive thinking and never giving up, and then there's plain stupidity.

Originally Posted by Della Cate

Appears that the problems with the BB security certificate were just another glitch.

But look at the (mostly) adoring comments this provokes!

Bb server sept.jpg

Where are all these people coming from, and why are they all suddenly posting like mad on the BB FB page????

To me this is servant mentality - Yes dear BB we do trust you 100% so we know you will make it work properly - some affiliates do think they are still the focus and main reason for anything written anywhere by BB staff.The victims do believe that their opinion is seriously taken by Chris so they think they can make pressure on Chris attitude what is the main tragedy in every scam - the victims expect from butcher to be moral...of course the butcher uses this servant naivete to bring even more mess in the system and close the whole junk

Originally Posted by littleroundman

Unfortunately for the members, they have consented to their information being made available to third parties.

How many of the Banners Broker affiliates / members / victims do you think have read the complete Banners Broker Policies and Procedures from go to whoa ??

Having successfully conned thousands of people out of millions of dollars, it's highly unlikely Chris Smith and co are going to be worried about a little matter of sharing of the personal details of the victims.

Bottom line: it's fraud and always was fraud.

So, not only were they conned out of their money, now they have to spend the rest of god knows how long, checking their bank and credit card statements!

Wow, BB really is the ponzi that keeps on giving !

Originally Posted by Jerrygo

Remember the hoopla from BB regarding their evaluation by W3snoop ?
They posted everywhere their boasts of Bannersbroker.com being worth $1Billion.
Daily Unique visitors 916,603,340. Daily Revenue US $3,985,232
It gave a spark of hope to the shellshocked affiliates, after months of bad news.
Our information here on RS regarding worried affiliates logging into BB ten times a day to check for payouts being counted as unique visitors. Or pointing out that a large percentage of "unique visitors" had actually come from one page of the site to the homepage, or other manipulations, had little effect on the false hope of affiliates.
Well, information was provided to W3snoop, (and a couple of other evaluation sites), and they were asked to do a more in depth calculation of BB website. No answer was received from W3snoop.
But on checking, things have changed just a little.

No!!! 107USD ! That's so affordable maybe Stepsys or McCarthy or Watters might think about buying it ;)

Gosh, it's as cheap as one of Hooker's photo's ! lol

Originally Posted by Brenda

No!!! 107USD ! That's so affordable maybe Stepsys or McCarthy or Watters might think about buying it ;)

Gosh, it's as cheap as one of Hooker's photo's ! lol

And a yearly revenue of $91 US! Wowee, that's going some!

Ok, I hate to do this, because we can ALL guess what is going to be said, but I sort of feel compelled......The latest webinar. Thanks to the BB Ponzi Scam FB page, and Helen Margolis who posted it:-



*) Friday Q&A Webinar 9/6/13

Chris Smith speaking...

Good day BB nation, this is the BB webinar for Friday, Sept. 6th.

I have good news and bad news. The bad news is that I unfortunately broke my promise to be able to make the payouts last week. The good news is that with the new method of actually formulating the way for people to get paid has changed a bit, and we are just about ready to make the payout. It will be out this weekend. I apologize for that. I will post on the website when the payout goes out. I apologize, again. The delay is me personally. I take care of this personally, so it's all on me in terms of the delay. It was just due to the actual crunching of the numbers for the payout. I was looking forward to the automated process with the cards, and it was great while we had it. But unfortunately I am back to doing this myself now. Again, I do apologize for the delay.

The other thing I mentioned last week is taht we are now beginning to communicate better with you guys. Thank you to the ones who are helping with the Facebook account. We are interviewing to get a new dedicated person who can take this challenge and do that role full time.

Other updates - the launch timeframe is for an October launch. We will have a beta testing for about a week or so, so this is something we look forward to for the new version BB 3.0. I will be making an announcement for when this will be, so people can make application to be a beta tester.

I'm reading thru some of the questions here.

Questions as to the manual was pulled down off the website. I just got confirmation that the reason is that it contained information with regards to our other contract and it was requested that we update this before we post it again. We're going to also have to put up a version 3.0 of our manual. That will be coming soon, but we will put up something soon for Version 2.9, that is updated with fresh information.

Some people are having access problems. Be patient with support. Please submit your ticket and it will be answered. Or call support -- the phone numbers have been updated on the website. All the numbers transfer over to the Belize office.

We have some good sister sites that will be accompanying the new launch. If you recall back in Niagra we discussed this. One of these if Create My Banners. This has been very successful. This system has been operating smoothly. There is a referral system within that to increase your income. Coming in October are a few other sites with referral systems also.

Bannersbroker is a full advertising company, and we want to get the word out for our advertisers. (please listen to the replay for this part)

We are right around the corner. We are getting there, guys!! Thank you for hanging in there with us!

Again, payouts will go out shortly. Those who have never received anything will receive first, then by date order. We will catch up and be able to satisfy all the payouts and get back on track.

Thank you guys for coming today.

(end of webinar)
(summary notes only and not an official BB transcript - please listen to replay for details)

Chris probably got muddled with his Excel spreadsheet. Or he broke one of his crayons while colouring in his panels.

How anybody, anybody with more than two brain cells to rub together can still believe in this nonsense amazes me!

Over on MMG, The Guardianuno (thanks G!) says that "Little Jamie" Waters is now the UK support for BB; and that he is running the BB FB page.

Seems to me not so much that BB is scraping the bottom of the barrel, as it has discovered that the said barrel has a basement.....

Little bit of research on Belize.. The Multi Million - Billion Dollar Company that is Banners Broker.. "Has Everyone In BB Land Got Blinkers On ?".. "You Couldn't Make It Up If You Tried"..

This is Banners Broker Parent Company in Belize.. It has quietly been around for a good while..
Monetize Group

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And Banners Brokers new office in Belize is over this nice little street cafe... Very multi million dollar enterprise if you ask me...

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Cafe-...30251020487039

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Memories, light the corners of my mind,

Misty watercolour memories

of the way we were

I wonder if Banners Broker members get a little thrill each time they see a picture of "maths genius, Chris Smith" before he had the operation and turned into the Chris Smith we know and love today

Ode to Banners Broker:

"...so, I've got this idea for a 'business',
you'll never believe what it does."
"...don't care, will it make us some money?"
"hell yes! Its an absolute must!"

"so what's this great plan that you've thought of?"
"PANELS, of differing shades,
and differing values, they'll pay us.
We'll make all our money in spades!"

"how will that work then exactly?
People won't be all that keen."
"They will, if they see panels growing,
in front of there eyes, on their screen!

Every time they turn on there computer,
They'll see that there money has grown.
They'll think that the figures have doubled,
because we have told them its so."

"...but when they take out all that fake cash,
and can't, they'll all be in doubt?"
"ha ha, but that is the beauty,
we'll make sure they can't take it out!

We'll tell them to not touch there 'money',
for up to a year, maybe more.
And charge them in fees and withdrawals,
and telephone calls, we will score!

They'll think they are onto a sure thing,
And rope in all of their friends.
And maybe there sisters and grandpa's?
The cash will just keep rolling in!

And when, as time passes, it slows down,
and the cash stream dies down from this 'business',
We can tell them to work for there income
And make sure they do something useless!

We can get them to write lots of blogs,
and click on some fake sites we make?
It will take all there minds off the payments,
That we'll be 'unable, to make'!

We'll slow all the panels down nicely,
and quietly all move to Belize.
And make a new version of software,
to make sure they all feel at ease.

And then, when they all least expect it,
We'll close all the screens and depart.
And blame all the horrible bloggers,
who warned of our scam from the start!"

So folks, is this story familiar?
Do you recognise any of it?
Do you still think that BB is real?
A 'business' that's truly legit?

Or have you sussed out Banners Broker?
A pyamid, you must decide?
If you have, go ahead and REPORT THEM,
or they won't go to Jail, they'll just hide!