Thread: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

Originally Posted by noname999

Excellent article. Although I see on MMG the BB muppets are already trying to denigrate you rather than argue on the points of the article.

Nothing new there though. They can't disprove the facts so they go after the poster's character.

Interesting that the Finch Sells website is still being slated as being run by someone who was allegedly "systematically stealing from other people" and that the police are now involved. This has allegedly come from someone fairly high up in the UK BB system and has come to me third-hand.

Originally Posted by AshKen1

Interesting that the Finch Sells website is still being slated as being run by someone who was allegedly "systematically stealing from other people" and that the police are now involved. This has allegedly come from someone fairly high up in the UK BB system and has come to me third-hand.

Well, I run the Finch Sells blog, so that's news to me.

'Systematically stealing from other people'... LOL, are they talking about themselves?

Originally Posted by Martin88

Well, I run the Finch Sells blog, so that's news to me.

'Systematically stealing from other people'... LOL, are they talking about themselves?

It's just a constant stream of lies from Banners Broker & their cheerleaders, but I wouldn't expect anything else from a bunch of lying thieves.

Originally Posted by Martin88

Well, I run the Finch Sells blog, so that's news to me.

'Systematically stealing from other people'... LOL, are they talking about themselves?

Ooops!! Sincere apologies to you for that :( Not only are you saying nasty things about BB but (shock horror) you are also promoting other businesses :-O

Am truly appalled at the rubbish that is being spouted to/and by my mate in justification of the so called "business". Total load of tosh. Today he said he was BB through and through: my heart sank to hear that but there is nothing that will change his mind. Sadly think he'll be heartbroken when he can't get his money back for Christmas.

Have a look at this link:

http://www.facebook.com/BannersBrokerFactsAndUpdates

Our friend Paul McCarthy seems to be all over it...

Right Katy, lets go through this load of rubbish:

Hey folks, In the last few months I have investigated people trying to harm the BB brand. Some of you may ask why Im posting this as speaking about it may add fuel to the fire. Well sadly it will actually put out the fire that I know for a fact members of BB and even members here are listening to them.

- This opening paragraph doesn't even make sense. Can you decide if you are happy or sad if you put the fire out? Really bad start. Want to try again??


It's now time to put this baby to bed and understand what exactly is going on so you can all go back to feeling secure and end the panic some of these people have brought on. Now this isnt meant for long time members such as alan, peel, soozi etc etc because they understand its just haters.

- Stop crawling to your upline. Afraid your account may be frozen if you don't lick up to them enough(maybe you should be)


However to people like myself who were basically clueless about the entire business, some of their posts could come across scary. - ARE basically clueless. If you weren't clueless you never would have invested.

So let me begin:

Most of them are banned members for breaking the companies ToS.

- This is a lie.



I have found they are creating gimmick accounts on forums in their journey to bash and harm BB as a brand in order to try and gain support for their group. They are bitter and have zero proof to any of their claims aside from faulty ones which they claimed they have called such and such company, which is simply not true. I have actually called companies and the answers they are claiming are complete lies. I invite you to do you own investigations.

- Again lies. I thought you would be keeping quiet about this one. After all, it was your amazing brain fart to make a fake letter from Mastercard and then post it on the internet. This has angered MC and you know what the outcome has been there so far(more to come). In fact, if i was in the BB hierarchy, I would toss you out on your ear for that one. Definitely the stupidest move of any of the drones so far. Have you heard of the Darwin award. I think you are favourite for it this year.


Please note these previous members are on NUMEROUS forums for the pure reason to post negative about BB and that is all. A lot of you may not know this and may be coming across one site with them posting. Which to untrained eye can be very alarming. However unlike a lot of people I have been investigating this group for many months.

- I can only speak for myself on this one but I try to only post on one forum. I previously posted on scam.com but found that the thread was being censored. That is why I moved here. But don't really understand your point anyway.

I will name this group as I believe they should be known to ALL members as a warning they are nothing but people with a hate agenda (poyol, Joe Schmoe, noname999, Jordan Bright, randymackenna) Now naming them may not seem wise to some but any scam related forum you will find their names associated with. So it doesnt really matter most of you recognize them anyways.

- Does it make us a group just because we are not stupid enough to fall for BB's lies. It quite obviously makes you feel better to put us all together. If you are just naming people because they have spoke negatively about BB, I think you will find you are a few hundred names short...


The admin on realscam.com (soapboxmom) has been sued many many times for stalking, harassment and slander. The other admin littleroundman has been banned from forums such as talkinggold.com for trolling and hate posting. Funny enough this person is also the founder of eagle research associates. And together this person and another poster named kt 88 conspired together to give a false review of BB. One was pretending to be a random poster enquiring while the other was pretending to do an investigation. Both are members on the same forum with the same agenda. yet they accidentally slipped up and I caught them. You can see the evidence here (the banned account is not mine however someone who was aiding me and as you can see from their posts was a little too aggressive where the mods here put an end to it all) BannersBroker - BannersBroker.com - Page 107 - Talkgold HYIP, Investment & Money Forum

- more lies. You are going to have to do better than this.


Also please note on realscam at the beginning of the thread the admin littleround guy (2011) has been saying with every single change in BB "bb is crashing looks here's proof" yet weeks go by..months...a year and they are saying the same thing. Any day now. That day is not coming.

- Oh but it is. People are not stupid.


Really legit admin huh? These are the people that are scaring you guys. Again research it if you dont believe what Im providing..the evidence is for anyone

- You may notice that of all the sites you are talking about realscam.com is the only one without any ads. There is no hidden agenda here, and noone pulling the strings. This is purely to discuss scams. That is why we are discussing BB.


Now Ive been working with the admin of a few different forums and tracking their IP address and its been confirmed that they have created over 24 gimmicks accounts JUST FROM THE FORUMS I was able to work with the admin. 24 gimmick accounts. Thats alot and shows one thing. Hate agenda.

- Again, I can only speak for myself. Had one account on scam.com which I no longer use. One on talkgold, where I made one post inviting people to look at realscam, no longer used. And this account here which I do use. Your comment is heresay anyway and not proving anything.



Now the little group who has tried to take the internet by storm can all be found conspiring at these forums. Do a name search and you will find the SAME posters across these forums posting usually in one thread always. bannersbroker. And this is where they have also created gimmick accounts that have been confirmed by admin which has no agenda to prove otherwise.

- More rambling. Do you have a point?


One forum that did their best to discourage this once the evidence I provided was scam.com. The group has since moved over to realscam.com

- What evidence?

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I have provided actual evidence of their hate agenda. With links proving what they are doing and how they are scheming. Actual evidence cannot be ignored. Their evidence is nothing but lies and zero actual proof aside from the (I called them and they said so you better believe me). Pick up the phone and check and see. It is all lies.

- Did I miss something. You have proved nothing. What evidence have you provided, and of what?


There will always be people who question things because they dont understand the business but none of that is actual proof.

- We are not questoning the business. We know exactly how it works. Its a cycler. New money coming in pays the longer term members. BB themselves have stated this.

This does one thing. Provides the proper evidence to put this entire pain in the ass, to bed. I hope you all find comfort in this as it was a very long investigation that took a lot of work. But it needed to be done and I wasnt going to sit around and let these people insult us like idiots.

- I really hope it didn't take you too long. You have proved nothing, provided no evidence, and not set any BB members' mind at ease.


Edit :

They have attacked members here and dragged their friends, families, personal pictures into it at at times. I will not stand for this.

- Lies



Please note I have also sent copies of my investigation to authorities in their area where they can decide what to do with it. I have had 3 administrators sign affadavits.

- So now you are claiming to be a notary public or commissioner of oaths. Give me a break. You have even spelt affidavit wrong!! You are lying through your teeth.


So Whether its charge them with slander as they are taking members from this forum and bashing them or at the very least..keep an eye on it. And deter them from continuing to slander people or for the reason to have it in case something ever happens to them in the future in regards to BB or any future stalking/slander crimes they could be accused of. -

There is no case of slander here. And you know that BB can't afford to be anywhere near a court of law. Nice turn of phrase too: CHARGE THEM WITH SLANDER...or at the very least keep an eye on it....jesus wept...


If anyone here that hasnt already contacted me where they have been harmed, please contact me and I can relay any information to the police. -

Can we contact you too? We have two threatening phonecalls recorded from friends of yours in the BB organisation...actually don't worry, they are already with the police.
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Banners Broker isnt perfect but what company is? Just because there are issues with certain things that can cause frusratation doesnt mean people have a right to bash them and get peoples families involved.[/I] -

Yet more lies...

Have patience and enjoy it! -

We are, and we will.

By the way Katy, did you take it upon yourself to try and appease the BB drones or was it someone else's idea? Either way, very ill-conceived and very ineffective. I would think you have actually made people more worried. Well done!

Anyway Katy, even though you don't want others to, I'm glad you are still reading. Who knows, you may even learn something.

Also, I have a little project for you. Show us where the ads are. This is a very simple request. If BB is legitimate it should be very easy to do. I would also ask other BB members to make sure to remind Katy of her little task. Its only a tiny tiny little thing. This would do much more to set your members minds at ease than the above rubbish. If you truly want to prove BB's legitimacy do that. If you don't, well you are making our job all the easier...

Originally Posted by noname999

Have a look at this link:

http://www.facebook.com/BannersBrokerFactsAndUpdates

Our friend Paul McCarthy seems to be all over it...

This is one of the "facts" from the above site that attempts to explain why people are not being paid:

Banners Broker Facts & Updates

1 October.

Webinar 1st Oct 2012

Presenter Sabi & Chris Smith

Sabi ; The payment that were reversed, Support are going to call these people on the phone before releasing money, these were payment after 13th and first time withdrawal before the 13th. There were accounts hacked so the payments were reversed for safety and security for Bannersbroker and the member’s as it is their money.
Chris Smith , confirm
ed the site has a few enactments as it it is being hit with brute force approx 10,000 log in attempts per minute, So banners broker are putting further safe features on the site. There is no need to worry, Chris Smith said this thing happen online and they are putting feature in place for protection. But it has affected the site and some of the engine moves did not completer fully. All this is being worked on. Q about panel movement, Chris Smith said rest assured all panel complete and have always done so over the last 2 years.
Chris said they will be looking at organic, to ensure the visit to their publishing website are genuine, what he means by this that they are not being generated by robots.
Qustion form member about paying publishers
Chris replied that there is a process being put in place and should be paid for the end of the month.

That was the end everybody wished a good day.

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Apart from the obvious lack of literacy, this load of bull$hit simply is not good enough to convince anyone of average intelligence. How do people beleive this stuff? I'm amazed, and slightly sickened by the psychological processes at play within the cult of BB.

The admin on realscam.com (soapboxmom) has been sued many many times for stalking, harassment and slander. The other admin littleroundman has been banned from forums such as talkinggold.com for trolling and hate posting. Funny enough this person is also the founder of eagle research associates. And together this person and another poster named kt 88 conspired together to give a false review of BB. One was pretending to be a random poster enquiring while the other was pretending to do an investigation. Both are members on the same forum with the same agenda. yet they accidentally slipped up and I caught them. You can see the evidence here (the banned account is not mine however someone who was aiding me and as you can see from their posts was a little too aggressive where the mods here put an end to it all) BannersBroker - BannersBroker.com - Page 107 - Talkgold HYIP, Investment & Money Forum

Also please note on realscam at the beginning of the thread the admin littleround guy (2011) has been saying with every single change in BB "bb is crashing looks here's proof" yet weeks go by..months...a year and they are saying the same thing. Any day now. That day is not coming.

Gee,

Now THAT'S funny

I haven't seen someone squeeze so many factual errors into one post since MoneyMakingBrain was at his peak.

I don't know how people keep on confusing Eagle One and littleroundman.

One of us is much better looking than the other.

Aren't I, Lynn ??

Oh! and another thing Katy
You said


So Whether its charge them with slander as they are taking members from this forum and bashing them or at the very least..keep an eye on it. And deter them from continuing to slander people or for the reason to have it in case something ever happens to them in the future in regards to BB or any future stalking/slander crimes they could be accused of. -

I actually think you meant libel, slander is oral libel is print or written.


Two torts that involve the communication of false information about a person, a group, or an entity such as a corporation. Libel is any Defamation that can be seen, such as a writing, printing, effigy, movie, or statue. Slander is any defamation that is spoken and heard.

Poor Poor Katy

Originally Posted by Joe_Shmoe

Oh! and another thing Katy
You said


So Whether its charge them with slander as they are taking members from this forum and bashing them or at the very least..keep an eye on it. And deter them from continuing to slander people or for the reason to have it in case something ever happens to them in the future in regards to BB or any future stalking/slander crimes they could be accused of. -

I actually think you meant libel, slander is oral libel is print or written.


Two torts that involve the communication of false information about a person, a group, or an entity such as a corporation. Libel is any Defamation that can be seen, such as a writing, printing, effigy, movie, or statue. Slander is any defamation that is spoken and heard.

Poor Poor Katy

It seems like they always get that wrong, and it is so simple really, Slander = Spoken...! Once ya get that, libel has to be the other one...!

Originally Posted by Joe_Shmoe

Oh! and another thing Katy
You said


So Whether its charge them with slander as they are taking members from this forum and bashing them or at the very least..keep an eye on it. And deter them from continuing to slander people or for the reason to have it in case something ever happens to them in the future in regards to BB or any future stalking/slander crimes they could be accused of. -

I actually think you meant libel, slander is oral libel is print or written.


Two torts that involve the communication of false information about a person, a group, or an entity such as a corporation. Libel is any Defamation that can be seen, such as a writing, printing, effigy, movie, or statue. Slander is any defamation that is spoken and heard.

Poor Poor Katy

Poor lil child katy. There is something you can do about it. Take the people to court for 'slander' and prove they are wrong! All you scammers are the same. All talk no action. Prove to the suckers you are trying to lure in that we are wrong.

I was just surprised to learn that littleroundman is the founder of Eagle. And here all this time I thought I had. Silly me.

I guess I had better change the website immediately to reflect this. Are we sure Katy is not mmb?

Originally Posted by hendyphilhendy

Lol, According to Alan Howard (the resident moaner) I was 'self important' when on the Talking BB. By that I assume giving advice on my area of expertise (tax and accounting) was being self important. That forum really does make me chuckle sometimes. I know 2 other accountants in BB who agreed with my take on the accounting issues. Indeed, lots of people on Talking BS said the same; however, a few people obviously know more than the professional!

The first rule of Banners Broker, don't talk about Banners broker (unless it is about how much money you, they, anyone can make)

Add another accountant, although not in BB to the list. The big boys have been in it since 2010 so they must have done 2011 tax returns. Strangely whilst being only to happy to tell people of the millions they are making they appear reticent to tell other BB Billionaires-in-training how much tax they have paid and on what basis their tax returns were filed. Probably because as soon as they do someone is likely to report them to HMRC for tax fraud.

I persuaded my friend to give me name of a website that bb are advertising on. You may have seen this before. I leave it to you all to comment on the quality. I'm actually speechless.

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Originally Posted by hendyphilhendy

My points were made to back the previous comments up and you will have seen it stated that it is my intention to withdraw my initial investment and get out. I think it only fair that I do my best efforts not to lose my own money! I refuse to take anyone elses.

This is a moot point now as your account is frozen but...
Your initial investment was lost months ago. It cannot be retrieved. Even superhuman efforts won't bring it back.

What you can do is recoup your loses at the expense of new victims. This is exactly why you will see people trapped in the scam lie through their teeth to outsiders (even family and friends) about how rosy things are. The constant fresh blood is required to get any sort of money out of the scam at all.

Out of interest - When you were determining whether to invest, how as an accountant did you reconcile the fact that BB's reported profits are more commonly seen with the sale of illicit drugs rather than any sort of legitimate business?

Originally Posted by AshKen1

I persuaded my friend to give me name of a website that bb are advertising on. You may have seen this before. I leave it to you all to comment on the quality. I'm actually speechless.

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I'm guessing this website gets about 10 million hits a day

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Originally Posted by Dreamstealer

Add another accountant, although not in BB to the list. The big boys have been in it since 2010 so they must have done 2011 tax returns. Strangely whilst being only to happy to tell people of the millions they are making they appear reticent to tell other BB Billionaires-in-training how much tax they have paid and on what basis their tax returns were filed. Probably because as soon as they do someone is likely to report them to HMRC for tax fraud.

Take a look at this:
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Dave Osman is happy to tell the world that he is banking over £10,000 per month from BB! This is the equivalent of over £120,000 per tax year.

Can any accountants here guess what his tax bill should be? Returns are due in by January 31st.

National Insurance contributions due on top of this.

Quote: "At the moment I am just banking the money"

HMRC would certainly find this interesting.

Originally Posted by Beethoven

Take a look at this:
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Dave Osman is happy to tell the world that he is banking over £10,000 per month from BB! This is the equivalent of over £120,000 per tax year.

Can any accountants here guess what his tax bill should be? Returns are due in by January 31st.

National Insurance contributions due on top of this.

Quote: "At the moment I am just banking the money"

HMRC would certainly find this interesting.

It would have to be true first...

I personally make 800,000 dollars a day selling unicorns. I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions what i should do with my money?

Look at it this way. If he was actually making that kind of money he would not be looking to put it elsewhere. No other venture promises the kind of returns he is claiming.

Why would he look to a less lucrative investment? ITS ALL LIES to try and sucker people in to get his money back. People can't be stupid enough not to realise this.

Originally Posted by noname999

I personally make 800,000 dollars a day selling unicorns.

I have $100,000 to invest in your Unicorn selling business.

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Agreed. The figures are bull$hit. The point of my post was to underline how certain shills are drawing attention to their (imaginary) earnings from a tax point of view, in their greed to get more on board. This strategy will backfire.

Daveosman is a blatant shill, but not a partiularly clever one. He often jumps to BB's defence aggressively if a forum member questions the ponzi model.

Like here:Screen 1.jpg


Quote:"What part of the BS message do you not understand? ITS BEING TESTED"


But there finally might be one or two BB drones who are bright enough to see through the bull$hit choice network.

Like here:

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Originally Posted by Joe_Shmoe

I have $100,000 to invest in your Unicorn selling business.

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No problem. I would suggest you start with a fairy dust package. You will also have to buy at least three horn packs every month. Of course, the unicorns are part of a blind blessing so you will never see them. But as long as others also invest in fairy dust it will not be an issue. Now thanks to you joining i will make 9,000,000 dollars a day. I love fairy unicorns. Best business ever.

Katy, I know you are watching, and love a sure thing. Let me know if you want in on our unicorn business. Just one condition. Don't ever try to make our membership feel more secure. You are hopeless at it. You always make a fool of yourself. Just sit back and watch the unicorns grow and grow.

Another Banners Broker Accountant.

What is it with yooz guys?


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Originally Posted by Beethoven

Agreed. The figures are bull$hit. The point of my post was to underline how certain shills are drawing attention to their (imaginary) earnings from a tax point of view, in their greed to get more on board. This strategy will backfire.

So true. They are too stupid to see it .

Five figure income, you say ??/ Here ya go: $000.11 See ??? Five figures.