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    Quote Originally Posted by udecide
    The funniest thing for me, was they were complaining to all the small guys that payments are backtracked and they would soon get back to getting all payments out in the timely fashion, however the to the big players, i show withdrawal requests get made at 12:00pm, and on the very same day around 2:00pm the payment was successful and paid out, and the amount paid out $100,000. Yes, a huge amount no wonder they arent playing so many affiliates, they claim to limit monthly withdrawals to 10K but they are approved these guys no problem for 100,000 and really within 2 hours like WTF. end of the day in any ponzi the top players get richer and richer. Also all these guys in other countries like ian driscoll, paul macarthy, etc. have BB accounts too i've seen Ian driscolls, he was able to withdraw $400,000 before he was released from BB for some unknown reason.
    Hiya, udecide, welcome to REALSCAM.com and thanks for the inside info.

    You've exposed a giant truth about how HYIP ponzi frauds are run.

    Insiders, such as Simon Stepsys / Allan Sills / Jamie Waters make virtually all of their money from referrals, especially from the extensive downline they bring with them from scam to scam.

    Insiders risk little, if any money of their own. The huge cheques they like to flash as often as possible are made up almost entirely from referral commissions and kickbacks which are totally unavailable to ordinary "members"
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    Quote Originally Posted by udecide View Post
    for anybody still trying to dispute whether or not BB is a ponzi or not, i have a little information to share. This is from my personal experience as working within bannersbroker, as both a technical support position as well as a account coordinator. BANNERS BROKER IS 100% a ponzi scheme and will do so much to cover up their tracks. here are just some of the things i had noticed from working their for almost a year: During down times they we try to make employees scourge through the internet, forums etc. to find anyone who is talking bad about the company, or claiming that it is a ponzi, and find out if they username from one site is linked to theirs, by doing so they would lock out accounts until the information was removed from the web. Which is kinda funny when you think about it, cause once something goes on the internet it is there forever lol. as people reblog it, and quote it etc. soon enough the company was falling apart piece by piece, and they created 2 full time position that sole job was to through the net finding "false" info about them. that was just their clean up crew. But now lets talk about the ponzi scheme this company had going. When i was there i was noticed many accounts waiting for low payments sometimes between 70 - 300 waiting months upon months for the payments to go through. occasionally a payment would go through, but then supposedly something would go wrong on the payment processors end, and it would be reversed back into the BB account. Now remember i told you that people were waiting months for such tiny payments considering BB tells its affiliates it pays out millions a year. They honestly do, no doubt but its not to the small players. while i was there i had access to every account on the site. i could see all payment transactions. The funniest thing for me, was they were complaining to all the small guys that payments are backtracked and they would soon get back to getting all payments out in the timely fashion, however the to the big players, i show withdrawal requests get made at 12:00pm, and on the very same day around 2:00pm the payment was successful and paid out, and the amount paid out $100,000. Yes, a huge amount no wonder they arent playing so many affiliates, they claim to limit monthly withdrawals to 10K but they are approved these guys no problem for 100,000 and really within 2 hours like WTF. end of the day in any ponzi the top players get richer and richer. Also all these guys in other countries like ian driscoll, paul macarthy, etc. have BB accounts too i've seen Ian driscolls, he was able to withdraw $400,000 before he was released from BB for some unknown reason. And Rajiv has an account under his parents names, his siblings just so he can continuously withdraw money, and when it comes down to it, they will most likely just say they invested in the company. Anyways this is just some of the information i can give you about BB, you will have to decide for yourself if you believe BB is a ponzi or not, but at least i can somewhat influence your choice.
    Thanks, udecide
    Welcome to Real Scam udecide,

    How many actual active affiliates or victims would you say Banners Broker has or had?
    Also did they pay you and the other staff well?
    How many actual employees did they have in Canada and or Belize?
    What site or sites was the scam run from
    Where you aware of the visit by the UK "leaders" to the warehouse in Canada? If so what was the story behind that?

    If Simon Stepsys or Mark Ghobril are involved it's 100% a SCAM!

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    Good Luck to you Demian..try to take a half hour meditation break a day ,to help deal with the stress,.. A good site is "Healing Beats".. Again good Luck..

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    URGENT BB ANNOUNCEMENT JULY 28th, 2014

    Chris Smith Has The Answer We Have All Been Waiting For!




    ---> Latest update from Chris Smith from BB on Vimeo

    Pure Genius!

    BB ROCKS!


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    Hala Lu Ya!

    Another Mark Ghobril Rant!

    Why doesn't he let his down line leave real messages on his video?




    -------> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3ep...ature=youtu.be

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    Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

    [quote name='theguardianuno' date='Jan 28 2014, 09:42 AM' post='1108673377']
    Tip of the hat to Ribshaw for this -

    "I see him as an honorable business professional"

    These words will haunt Al for the rest of his life soon, #iceberg

    Al shows just how the ponzi pimps react when people have valid critisim using business logic and challenge their apologist ways. Forget that Chris owes hundred + million dollars of debt, just pay your $10 that he is asking for or walk away, no I won't bring up why we have to pay $10 from our pockets and not from the thousands in our Ewallets.


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    Who Would Like To Trust Them Again?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe_Shmoe View Post
    Welcome to Real Scam udecide,

    How many actual active affiliates or victims would you say Banners Broker has or had?
    Also did they pay you and the other staff well?
    How many actual employees did they have in Canada and or Belize?
    What site or sites was the scam run from
    Where you aware of the visit by the UK "leaders" to the warehouse in Canada? If so what was the story behind that?
    I would add to those questions
    - where did you actually work, Stellarpoint or BB and at what location?
    - What is the background of Chris, assuming you met him and spoke with him?
    - are there any other key players or names that you can mention
    - When did you work there
    - was there any actual advertising network and do they have an key advertising contacts.



    It is very rare I doubt anything/ anyone on the anti BB side but what you have posted is actually nothing any of us have not already revealed. Give us something new to get stuck in to that could help the cause.
    Just looking to seek the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scamassassin007 View Post
    Who Would Like To Trust Them Again?

    You forgot all the personal info that they were told to give them also. Wonder how much he'll make off that.

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    udecide,

    if you have more information you'd care to share, but feel uncomfortable posting in open forum, might I suggest you use the Personal Messaging system to pass on information to any one of the site admins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe_Shmoe View Post
    Alan Shills latest YouTube video

    It Should be titled - It's the economy stupid.

    By the way he would still like to recruit you into Banners Broker. He says "Banners Broker is on the right track"




    "Banners Broker is moving onto "Version 3" - it may be thought of as the FIRST "non-beta" version. Yup, the company that some have pronounced as "DOA" is alive and kicking... and moving towards a long-term sustainable business model."

    Ahhh! Version 2.9 was a Beta version! Funny nobody mentioned that in the past.
    Great job everyone. Pic isnt clear it says:
    "YouTube users have flagged this video as possibly a scam, spam, or commercially deceptive content"

    - Banners Broker Releases Important Version 3.0 Details YouTube.jpg
    Last edited by Fat City, LA; 01-28-2014 at 07:49 PM. Reason: pic not clear

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whip View Post
    You forgot all the personal info that they were told to give them also. Wonder how much he'll make off that.
    I think the BIG news of the week was the fact that Mark Ghobril opened his BIG MOUTH yet again and made a "GUARANTEE" remark that "IF AND WHEN" BB fails.. He will pay us all back (our original investment amount).

    Complaints are mounting on FB with the Cash payments that MG and other leaders have made from BB victims.

    Then one of Marks victims came forward and gave proof that Marks house is in Foreclosure and he did not pay for his scam site "MarkGhobril.com wish has been offline for weeks . He claimed on the site that he was a BB Millionaire".

    It just boils down to more lies and deception. How anyone could ever trust the whole lot of them in IML, MAP, AHP , or any scam is beyond me. You can almost bet that when scammers like Lieven even hint at touching something... It will SCAM! Whether it be BB or Profitable Sunrise... It is very funny that the same leaders are in almost all of them. It is also amazing that the same leaders are the only ones who ever make any money while the masses lose it all.

    Also, for the sake of argument.. For all of those BB members who are "JUST WAITING" You have to ask yourself.. Is it worth the money with all of that "CLICKING" and the headaches, let alone the fact that more new people will be scammed? You are more likely to get carpal tunnel then to get Rich with Banners Broker at this point. And you are more likely to make more money flipping burgers at a fast food restaurant then making money with BB.

    So many LIES, Excuses, and half Truths... almost Weekly... Yet many of the sheep still believe.

    Memory Lane...
    Remember when BB was to be the next Google?
    Remember when Lieven, Kul, Hooker, Raj, and Driscoll were the next best thing since sliced bread .. Until they leave. ???
    Remember the Audit that was supposed to solve everything and show BB's Transparency?
    Remember all the weekly promises of payments?
    Remember the countless excuses why not to pay?
    Remember in April when Chris said not to worry there is plenty of money...
    A couple months Later David Hooker went on a strange rant that their was a "run on the bank"
    remember the "LEAKED LEADER INFO" that BB's money was held up in Cypress?
    Remember more recently that some of the leaders claim BB is a victim and that Stellar Point STOLE over $300 Millions...
    (I personally think he leadership calls are well orchestrated propaganda Info" so the Leaders can be "IN THE KNOW" and leak it. )

    I could go on and on...


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    A message to the BB die-hard followers....

    At what point will you hold Chris Smith and BB accountable? You obviously won't reason with facts. You won't allow any comments or questions that is not considered to positive or pro-BB.

    You bring in the elderly or people who are unknowing from many Countries.
    You also prey on friendships, bringing them into the BB Skype rooms only telling them of the great bounty that awaits and show of your color back offices overflowing with money.
    The victims only hear POSITIVE tid-bits and are told to stay clear of evil bloggers.

    When will you admit that the BB ship has not only sailed.. but sank long ago.
    Why take more victims?

    Why does this remind me of the old fable... "The Frog and the Scorpion"

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    Quote Originally Posted by udecide View Post
    for anybody still trying to dispute whether or not BB is a ponzi or not, i have a little information to share. This is from my personal experience as working within bannersbroker, as both a technical support position as well as a account coordinator. BANNERS BROKER IS 100% a ponzi scheme and will do so much to cover up their tracks. here are just some of the things i had noticed from working their for almost a year: During down times they we try to make employees scourge through the internet, forums etc. to find anyone who is talking bad about the company, or claiming that it is a ponzi, and find out if they username from one site is linked to theirs, by doing so they would lock out accounts until the information was removed from the web. Which is kinda funny when you think about it, cause once something goes on the internet it is there forever lol. as people reblog it, and quote it etc. soon enough the company was falling apart piece by piece, and they created 2 full time position that sole job was to through the net finding "false" info about them. that was just their clean up crew. But now lets talk about the ponzi scheme this company had going. When i was there i was noticed many accounts waiting for low payments sometimes between 70 - 300 waiting months upon months for the payments to go through. occasionally a payment would go through, but then supposedly something would go wrong on the payment processors end, and it would be reversed back into the BB account. Now remember i told you that people were waiting months for such tiny payments considering BB tells its affiliates it pays out millions a year. They honestly do, no doubt but its not to the small players. while i was there i had access to every account on the site. i could see all payment transactions. The funniest thing for me, was they were complaining to all the small guys that payments are backtracked and they would soon get back to getting all payments out in the timely fashion, however the to the big players, i show withdrawal requests get made at 12:00pm, and on the very same day around 2:00pm the payment was successful and paid out, and the amount paid out $100,000. Yes, a huge amount no wonder they arent playing so many affiliates, they claim to limit monthly withdrawals to 10K but they are approved these guys no problem for 100,000 and really within 2 hours like WTF. end of the day in any ponzi the top players get richer and richer. Also all these guys in other countries like ian driscoll, paul macarthy, etc. have BB accounts too i've seen Ian driscolls, he was able to withdraw $400,000 before he was released from BB for some unknown reason. And Rajiv has an account under his parents names, his siblings just so he can continuously withdraw money, and when it comes down to it, they will most likely just say they invested in the company. Anyways this is just some of the information i can give you about BB, you will have to decide for yourself if you believe BB is a ponzi or not, but at least i can somewhat influence your choice.
    Thanks, udecide
    Good information from someone within. However, what you describe doesn't make it a Ponzi. Paying the top promoters and not all affiliates isn't right but doesn't make it a Ponzi, it just shows BB and SP were scamming the affiliates and Chris doesn't care about the affiliates as he claims and only wants their monthly fees.

    What makes it a Ponzi, and if you could confirm this: were there enough product sales to generate the revenue paid to all the affiliates that did get paid or did the revenue to pay them come from the fees paid by the affiliates? That is what makes it a Ponzi.

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    Ponzi / Pyramid, Pyramid / Ponzi ????

    Who cares ??

    It's a fraud involving pyramid scheme, ponzi scheme, securities fraud, criminal fraud, wire fraud and criminal conspiracy
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    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post
    Ponzi / Pyramid, Pyramid / Ponzi ????

    Who cares ??

    It's a fraud involving pyramid scheme, ponzi scheme, securities fraud, criminal fraud, wire fraud and criminal conspiracy
    Fair point . Buy the law will refer to what was being done and it actually does matter in court because a picture has to be drawn and the evidence to support that picture produced.

    As I see it is a Ponzi because ALL the money paid out to anyone came from later investors. maybe some was recycled but ALL came from others save possibly the 50k or so seed money from "investors" (from Kul's pal? IIR) which started it and paid off early pimps/salesmen boiler room operatives .
    Scamworld: 'Get rich quick' schemes mutate into an online monster | The Verge


    Then Raj robbed from the poor to give to the rich (him) and sent some back to the top guys and a few crumbs to the later joiners but it all came from later people joining. no ad money or any other money in just joiners money = a ponzi.

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    Ponzi is the word/term used to describe a type of illegal investment. It is called a Ponzi because people get paid by new people joining so the early people in can be paid. That is the definition of a Ponzi. It all collapses when not enough new people are joining and putting in enough money for it to continue. They all collapse at some point as they run out of enough people joining.

    A scam is a different type of illegal investment. A scam is one where a future event is required for people to get paid, but that event never happens. All of the Reverse Pension Plans were a scam. They had to have x-number of people signed up, they had to reach a certain number of units sold, etc., etc..

    When charges are filed, whether civil or criminal, it usually centers around these three: money laundering, bank fraud, and wire fraud. Sometimes it is only one, but it can be two or all three. Some additional charges could be filed, but these are the three major charges.

    BB started out as a straight line double cycler, not as an advertising business. When that failed to produce enough new members to join, they changed it to being an advertising business and their infamous "blind network." This is what has sustained BB for as long as it has. If it had remained a straight line double cycler, this would have been over about 18 months ago, if it would have lasted that long.

    All one has to do is stop and use their head. If BB was truly in the advertising business, buying ad space and all the other BS they have spouted about their business, and it was real, they would be paying on time like clockwork. For there would have been a real business behind it and they would have truly been doing advertising as they claimed. There has never been any advertising of any kind period. It is all smoke and mirrors and hundreds of thousands of people bought it. The major promoters always know it is all BS and a Ponzi. They don't care as this is how they make a living stealing from others claiming they are making money as an Internet Marketer. Look at all the other Ponzi's they are now promoting, and many of them have already gone belly-up. They are off to the next greatest thing, or at least they claim it is the next great thing and a real "business opportunity."

    So the burden of proof is not to prove it is a Ponzi, which it is, but if there is money laundering, wire fraud or bank fraud. All you have to do is look at all the cases that charges have been filed, and you will see the word Ponzi is not used in filing charges. They will mention it in the trial to describe the activity, but not as part of the charges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EagleOne View Post
    Ponzi is ...people get paid by new people joining so the early people in can be paid. ... They all collapse at some point as they run out of enough people joining.

    A scam is a different type of illegal investment. ...a future event is required for people to get paid, but that event never happens. ...

    When charges are filed, whether civil or criminal, it usually centers around these three: money laundering, bank fraud, and wire fraud.
    ...
    So the burden of proof is not to prove it is a Ponzi, which it is, but if there is money laundering, wire fraud or bank fraud.
    Just in case people think I was making a moot or academic point allow me to clarify

    1. Depending on whether it is criminal "burden of proof" or civil "balance of evidence" different standards apply for a court to pronounce guilt.

    2. An actual law may have to be referred to. In the US over the last half century law has become more "positive" as opposed to "natural". What I mean is an actual written law as opposed to the spirit of the law or something which isn't actually written down.
    SO for example a woman is walking around topless with exposed breasts in New York but the police don't do anything because there is no actual law in the criminal code which forbids it.
    Topless Women in Public Not Breaking the Law, Says NYPD - PolicyMic.

    In the UK or Ireland where BB collapsed already, they would have a view of the law as having "unenumerated rights" in other words right which are not written down but are there and get added usually by court case law decisions e.g the right to bodily integrity Ironically these are supported by the enumerated Article 40.3 or the Irish constitution.BUNREACHT NA hIREANN
    The term "personal rights", as interpreted by the courts, has led to the recognition and vindication of many rights not expressly provided for in the text of the Constitution.

    3. Note in 2, I mentioned "code". Ireland (with a written constitution) and England (with an unwritten constitution) are common law jurisdictions as opposed to Europe and the US who operate under codified law. "There's no law against it" is only becoming prevalent because kids watch US TV shows.

    Now the above may seem academic but I bring it to your attention because
    1. The basic underlying attitude to law as well as the actual system and particular laws do in practice affect the way a court operates with respect to a scam/ponzi or whatever
    and
    2. Maybe more importantly than restitution is prevention not by legislation but by cultural education to stop getting into trouble in the first place because -and this is my non academic point -
    http://pyramidschemealert.org/is-soc...rt-answers-no/
    The biggest reason people fall into Ponzi traps is not greed, but lack of understanding of what Ponzis or Pyramids actually are.

    So such a discussion is healthy and it isn't knit picking to tease it out as by rehearsing the arguments. Readers of this thread then become more aware of the mechanism of scams or ponzis whether or not they agree with the definitions.

    I might add in relation to this just yesterday on radio I heard someone refer to a US Supreme Court Judge who apparently mentioned he hadn't gotten around to email yet. If the Highest Court in the land isn't aware of the possibilities of Information Technology legal restitution is certainly less preferable than social awareness. But then again I come from a common law jurisdiction where we don't tend to think "what law am I breaking " "there is no law against it" as an excuse for doing something wrong while at the same time we also tend not to avoid doing things and do as we like on our own initiative, rather than wait for the State first to legislate or regulate how we should do something before we then do it. :)

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    Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

    In case anyone has not seen it, here is today's webinar.

    Please note that Chris wants to make the affiliates happy.....aw, sweet!

    Paying them might help of course.


    Good morning everyone. I'm setting up my screen so you can see it. In the meantime, please post your questions in the question box and we will get to those as soon as we can.

    We are coming up to our launch timeframe. I want to make you aware of the amount of work that has to be done for the migration. A lot of tough decisions have been made. We are trying our best to be sure both sides are satisfied. This has been very difficult. We have had a lot of discussions. This week we are still making tweaks to the proposal for BBv3. We are first running it by our key leaders to make sure everyone is on board. We want them to buy into those ideas. They are given the opportunity to make their feelings known on the board. If we put something forth that is not going to be adopted by the affiliates, then why should we do that?

    We are trying our best to get caught up on payouts. We are still plowing away and trying to make sure BB is here for the long term.

    BLACKOUT DATE extended:

    It is Friday, and we have already mentioned that we want to do the blackout next week. To be fair for the programmers, they are given a document with clear guidance of what to do. We did not realize that it would take this much programming effort for the migration. This is what is known as scoping. And because of the advice and discussions these things keep changing. Our programming team has asked for more time to accomplish this. Here we are now and we are trying to do this correct and not just release something because the date is here, but we want to do it properly. the team has asked for more time. We have decided to extend the timeframe. We still have items that are changing for the benefit of the membership, so you should welcome these changes that we are putting in place. We will announce and present a full completed document when all the changes are completed and finally decided upon.

    (Having trouble getting the PowerPoint loaded)

    (Chris will just read his notes instead)

    A few things that we have agreed to:

    We have decided that for people who are Premium now, they will have 120 days from the launch (or when you begin your membership again - pay your $10 for your first month, which you have 90 days to do). Let's say you pay on March 1st. That is your admin fee for one month, then you will have 90 days or 3 months as a Standard member - $15/month. This gives people a chance to feel out the system and make sure you are comfortable being a Premium member again.

    For Premium affiliates
    Month 1 - $10
    Month 2-4 - $15

    Executives will begin as Premium ($100/mo) (after 1st month paying $10) and decide later if they want to go to Exec.

    Your new subscription date will be based on when you pay your $10. So the day before the blackout, we will retroactively go back and credit your accounts for any admin fee you have already paid recently. A pro-rated amount will be refunded to your account. You will continue to pay now up until blackout, then you will be pro-rated based on when the Blackout begins.

    (Chris explained this in detail - please watch the video replay)

    When will PDF be available? We were hoping to have it today, however there have been changes made as late as today, to we want to make it accurate and reflect all the changes before we release it to the membership.

    Payout update? We need to go through the banking system with wires to Payza and STP. Payza recently changes where to send wire, I am waiting for this info from Payza. I will be sending a wire to STP also, so we can do an STP payout also. I will be doing one more Payza and one more STP prior to blackout.

    Reversals of withdrawals - reverse it yourself or don't reverse it. All pending withdrawals will be reversed. If YOU reverse them, then a percentage will go into your Advertising Credits eWallet in BBv3 and a percentage into your Legacy eWallet (percentages based on when you joined). If you DO NOT reverse your withdrawals, then 100% will go into your Legacy eWallet. So if you want a percentage available in BBv3 to spend as cash for purchases, then you should reverse the withdrawals.

    10%, 15%, 20%, 25% (based on sign up date - see last week's webinar)

    We will have 2 Queue's in the system

    #1 - This is money earned in BBv3 - weekly withdrawal requests. One pending withdrawal in the system - once that's paid out, you can create another one.

    #2 - Legacy Wallet - system will generate the order based on the factors: 1) what was your earliest pending withdrawal date. Queue 2 will be paid out once a month. Once your payment is paid, you can create another one.

    2 pending withdrawals maximum - one in each Queue.

    Legacy Wallet is your BBv2.9 earnings.
    BBv3 eWallet is money earned in BBv3

    When can we buy a new package in version 3? As soon as it's live, NEW MEMBERS can register and purchase a new package. Existing affiliates already have a package and cannot purchase another one.

    Can we pay with a credit card? Yes

    Other ways:
    STP
    Payza
    Allied Wallet
    World eWallet

    PowerPoint slides? Yes we have updated this, and are sorry we have not been able to play it today. PowerPoint is informational and we want to make a live webinar with this.

    PDF - a written document to reflect the changes with the rationale of why we are doing this.

    Rationale: we are not doing this only for the corporate side. We truly are trying to make you happy, because if you are profitable then you will continue on with BB and the system will work for everyone. It would not make sense to not want to please our affiliates.

    Max withdrawals: $250/week for now until we are good to go.

    Blackout date will be announced shortly. We want to make sure all the changes are done and incorporated in the programming and on all documentation to you.

    Thanks for your patience. Thanks for our support center and our programmers. thanks to everyone who is making BB come to live today and for tomorrow. Talk to you soon.

    (end of webinar)
    (summary notes prepared by Linda Lane and are not meant to be official BB transcripts. Please include this with all repostings.)

    I love the fact that the It genius couldn't work the PowerPoint presentation! Classic.

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    And here, courtesy of Rockin Ronnie, is a little piece on the BB Blog about the "choice" network.

    With the transition to BBv3, there are some fundamental changes to the way that Banners Broker will operate. One of the most common that you have likely heard is the shift from a system that appears to be passive.

    Another change in direction is the role that the Choice Network will play in the ongoing success of Banners Broker:

    · More Sites – We are adding more sites to the Choice Network to make it larger and more diverse.

    Better Content – In order to make these sites more appealing, the content on these sites will be improving, including well-written articles and blogs and more relevant information.

    Improved Web Presence – these sites will be SEO optimized which will create more traffic, which will make these sites more appealing and therefore generate more traffic to them and other sites.

    What all of these changes mean is that there will be more sites that people will visit. A big part of this will be the role that affiliates will pay in promoting these sites through Organic Traffic campaigns and Incentive tasks. The success of these sites will create more ad revenue and continue to make Banners Broker and all of its affiliates ever more successful.

    Bold highlighting is mine.

    Has anyone seen any of these choice sites? I would love to see them, to see that standard of the user generated content, but I'm frightened of picking up a virus or something. (Don't laugh techies.....unlike Chris Smith, I'm not an IT genius)

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    Same old crap....but this is really hilarious..."It would not make sense to not want to please our affiliates".....or it was said as sarcasm?...Chris,was it?
    Instead of loving people and using money, people often love money and use people

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    Quote Originally Posted by Della Cate View Post
    Has anyone seen any of these choice sites? I would love to see them, to see that standard of the user generated content, but I'm frightened of picking up a virus or something. (Don't laugh techies.....unlike Chris Smith, I'm not an IT genius)

    Here is an example of some of the high quality content available on www.careerdonkey.com Navigating the site is like swimming through treacle, but I'm guessing thats 'cos it's so dammed busy with people clamoring to read some of the incredably valuable info on there.

    Quality information like this will drive millions of pairs of eyeballs to the choice network to view the many ads, thereby earning Banners Broker & their affiliates many many millions of dollars.





    Remember this is the content they approved, imagine what the stuff they rejected was like.


    Career planning staff

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    Today it is difficult to find and retain the high-level professional. High salary is not always the decisive argument. For most people is important incentives in your career, so you need to career planning each key employee for stabilization of the team. Career are grouped by types depending on their orientation. Horizontal or qualification career – man acquires new knowledge, improving skills, but remains on the same position or goes on the same level in another unit. Plastic KBE window to buy in Moscow, PVC Windows KBE metal, prices, reviews. To this career can be attributed complication of tasks in office with higher remuneration. Vertical career – employee goes on a post of the higher level, increasing its status in the organization. The concept of «career» is often associated with this type.

    Career classified by types of key changes. Bossy career – expanding sphere of influence, increasing informal powers. Monetary career – increases the income of an employee, a position can not change. Centripetal career – movement of an employee to a management company. For example, it is ideal for meetings and meetings of an informal character, honest communication with superiors. Pure data types quarry are rare, so there’s another type of combined career in which an employee is in different ways at different stages of work. People have different life plans, as the attitude to a career. To align the company’s needs in staff with personal goals of people, many companies involved in the planning of the career of its employees.

    For this you need to assess personnel, which allows to divide employees into groups for which planning of the career development needs to be done first. Estimated personal characteristics and ability of the employee: professional and managerial capacity; loyalty to the company; striving for professional growth. You need to consider how to move a person from one position to another affect the efficiency of the unit, where he was transferred and how it is compatible with the head. So before planning your movements are assessed factors: interpersonal compatibility workers; dynamics of change of trends in the OU. Career success of every employee depends on his motivation to change, therefore, in assessing the need to highlight and the incentives that have value for the person.

    Such incentives can be: Status. It is important for people sensitive to prestige, who appreciate the influence, power, promotion. Welfare. Impact on employees who need material support, comfortable life and work. The uniqueness. These employees appreciate the singularity problem, its intellectual complexity. Maintaining the achieved level (status, wealth, uniqueness). For these people the increase in material prosperity, uniqueness and status not always has a positive influence on the efficiency and lowering – will negatively. The process is distinguished career stages, so we need to assess what stage of your career development is an employee at the present time. Career start (career planned). Career development (career develops, restructuring of the existing position or changed place of work). Stabilization career. End of a career – dismissal of the employee. By making a one-time assessment of prospective employees can make a slice of human potential of the company, development and introduction of system of monitoring of factors significant for the development of career opportunity to manage the promotion and development of employees.

    To calculate levels of customer are taken into account indicators of personnel satisfaction. If the employee is loyal, he is characterized by high and medium parameters: – the satisfaction of the group; – satisfaction; – satisfaction of production; – satisfaction of household and material conditions. For calculation of the intensity needs to take place in the profession settings are ignored: the pursuit of a career, purposefulness, the attractiveness of the kind of profession, desire for power. What is of more importance these parameters, the more a person feels the need to take place professionally. At achievement of group goals employees is regarded as one whole. So, when you move workers in a company it is important to assess changes in the group trends.

    When the career planning staff is most value definition stage in my career, which is the employee. Consider the career process from the arrival of the person in the company. First employee expects to career growth and has increased the importance of the indicator «the desire to take place in the profession». At this stage you have to actively shape the career of the employee. After the entry of the person in the rhythm of decrease of this indicator, the stabilization career. Managers of the company on the given moment should plan a career move to the employee again was at the stage of active career development. If no move, the person increases the desire professionally take place, and integrated satisfaction decreases. It is necessary at this stage to transfer the employee to another position or to restructure the post. If no changes occur, it is the fourth stage, when an employee leaves the company or passes in the category of candidates for dismissal due to reduced motivation and productivity.

    Tracing the stages of career development gives an opportunity to realize professional and management potential of each employee. After the evaluation of all factors HR Manager is individual recommendations for the development and career planning for each employee. Thus, all the key employees of the company provided a successful career development. Development and career planning staff of the increase of loyalty of employees to the company, forms a team, a positive impact on the results of the work. Recommendations on career planning: 1. The preservation of the achieved status and well-being. You need a combination of powerful centripetal, monetary and qualification types of career. Association of qualification and centripetal career may be the extension of official duties, the participation in conferences, training.

    The increase of official duties, it is desirable to make the payment. This will ensure the implementation of monetary type of career. A powerful type of career can be implemented through the expansion of the functional duties within the office. 2. Against the background of professional and managerial capacities of the worker reveals low comprehensive satisfaction. Therefore, to restructure the position. Thus it is expedient to expand the currently existing authority or to transfer the employee to another unit for the position with great powers. Increase of powers should be combined with the extension of official duties and to changes in wages. So for the employee will be a combination of monetary and powerful careers. Restructuring the position you must maintain control over the level of comprehensive dissatisfaction of the staff and the results of its work.


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    If Simon Stepsys or Mark Ghobril are involved it's 100% a SCAM!

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    Blatantly stolen and run through an online translator.

    As the webinar may well have been. Because once again, I don't understand a ******* word.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Della Cate View Post
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    Payout update? We need to go through the banking system with wires to Payza and STP. Payza recently changes where to send wire, I am waiting for this info from Payza. I will be sending a wire to STP also, so we can do an STP payout also. I will be doing one more Payza and one more STP prior to blackout.
    Payza wire changes? No mention on their blog for business and users or ANYWHERE else?
    https://blog.payza.com/

    Even IF true. Payza doesnt want the fees? Takes more than a call or email to get that info in an afternoon?
    Chris doesnt even lie well anymore.

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    ALL AFFILIATES MUST NOW HAVE A TWITTER ACCOUNT.

    We can all shut up shop and go home folks! Can't wait to read all those tweets!!!!

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