Thread: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

Originally Posted by Ken Roklin

If you, Chris, set the liquidation in motion, wouldn't withdrawing the $6 mil first have been the smart thing to do? There are only 3 choices here 1) you're lying (again) about starting this or 2) you're dumber than a hockey puck to leave $6 mil in an account that would be frozen the minute you initiate the liquidation. 3) both 1 & 2

Yes. Apparently Chris the "mathematical genius business guru" with no evidence of any prior business experience or qualifications or of any mathematics degree does not know the difference between "winding up" a company and liquidating it! He also does not seem to know the difference between voluntary and involuntary liquidation. And he is apparently didn't even turn up in court for what he claims is his own liquidation which he set in motion be design?

Isn't it funny that there is very little mention of "Banners Mobile" these days?

I presume that is still going..........well, as far as anything from BB can be "going"....

Originally Posted by Della Cate

Isn't it funny that there is very little mention of "Banners Mobile" these days?

I presume that is still going..........well, as far as anything from BB can be "going"....

Not only that no mention of an 'advertising network' or brokership of ads of any sort. It's almost like they don't exist 😁

Originally Posted by hendyphilhendy

Not only that no mention of an 'advertising network' or brokership of ads of any sort. It's almost like they don't exist ��

They don't because they never did.

... maybe for some, the penny is finally dropping ... maybe not.

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I would also suggest you look at the following facebook page (hats off to the campaigners there)

Visa card? Oh I don't think so....

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Banne...ref=ts&fref=ts

[QUOTE=AshKen1;74046]... maybe for some, the penny is finally dropping ... maybe not.

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I saw that too, AshKen. I thought the most intersting bit was the BB person (Rockin' Ronnie, I presume?) saying that "It will always be more beneficial for Bb affiliates to make sales"

Make sales? Sales of what? Sales to whom? Just what is the product? I thought that affilaites were making money (ho ho) by buying advertising space and selling ads on t'internet. Whatever happened to all the "partners" Bb was supposed to be getting and all the "hard work" Smiffy and co were putting in to get more advertisers on board?
Blind network anyone?

Unless their only sales are of "packages" to get more people to come in underneath them so some folks on top might get paid, but wouldn't that make them a pyramid/ponzi scheme?

And we all know THAT'S not true, don't we children?

[QUOTE=Della Cate;74047]

Originally Posted by AshKen1

... maybe for some, the penny is finally dropping ... maybe not.

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I saw that too, AshKen. I thought the most intersting bit was the BB person (Rockin' Ronnie, I presume?) saying that "It will always be more beneficial for Bb affiliates to make sales"

Make sales? Sales of what? Sales to whom? Just what is the product? I thought that affilaites were making money (ho ho) by buying advertising space and selling ads on t'internet. Whatever happened to all the "partners" Bb was supposed to be getting and all the "hard work" Smiffy and co were putting in to get more advertisers on board?
Blind network anyone?

Unless their only sales are of "packages" to get more people to come in underneath them so some folks on top might get paid, but wouldn't that make them a pyramid/ponzi scheme?

And we all know THAT'S not true, don't we children?

BB have done a fantastic job of muddying the waters to such a point that they have managed to distract affiliates from the basics to running them around in circles with other distractions, rubbish terminology, new payment methods, new systems, promises of progress, throwing in the element of possible legitimacy with associations to the likes of Visa etc that they have completely forgotten to question the obvious!

The blind network is now firmly established as the network for those who WILL NOT see.

Originally Posted by AshKen1

... maybe for some, the penny is finally dropping ... maybe not.

is the penny finally dropping for some.jpg

I would also suggest you look at the following facebook page (hats off to the campaigners there)

Visa card? Oh I don't think so....

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Banne...ref=ts&fref=ts

So, even if there really were advertisers, wouldn't you be shooting yourself in the foot by bringing in more people that would have to share that piece of pie? They would be in the same position they are now if this was legit.

Originally Posted by AshKen1

... maybe for some, the penny is finally dropping ... maybe not.

is the penny finally dropping for some.jpg

I would also suggest you look at the following facebook page (hats off to the campaigners there)

Visa card? Oh I don't think so....

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Banne...ref=ts&fref=ts

Two things as a follow up to this.

First, I am kicking myself for not taking a screen shot of the comment made by the initial questioner who found when he/she went back into his/her account that the wallet/earnings had been depleted... a quick and swift punishment for not toeing the line.

Second... well lookee here, guess who's just crawled back out of the woodwork. Say hello to the nice people Mr Ghobril....

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What a surprise, there are people agreeing with him. Oh dear.

Originally Posted by AshKen1

What a surprise, there are people agreeing with him. Oh dear.

Why not, they consider the "scam" component of this to be a bugaboo of the naysayers that hate work at home. Short Sale Gerbil can't even get through a whole paragraph without mentioning that Chris has always delivered. More like Chris has cashed checks and drained affiliate accounts leaving nothing behind but the stench of wet puppies and despair.

BB was a "piece of cake" like every other Ponzi when there was still money in the coffers. It has been "altered" to make it sustainable, WTF does that even mean? Any business in the world is sustainable if their bills go unpaid for years on end. In the real world the bank comes and starts taking collateral to collect, much like Mark's house. Guess he is operating from public Wi-Fi at the YMCA these days.

Whoops..something went wrong https://payments.worldewallet.com/

Originally Posted by Mundorf

Whoops..something went wrong https://payments.worldewallet.com/

It would appear the 'genius' didn't do the research he led others to believe. SHOCKING!

This is from a forex messageboard:

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If that's all they have now....what's going to happen when the explosion of millions of banners broker affiliates finally happens. lmao

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Yes Jamie Waters you do get them, but there is a darn good reason for that.

Some of the replies from the various scumbags did amuse me though.
Some of our more notorious friends including,

Ian Parker, (Ponzi Pimp Pensioner Recruitment Expert)
Ash Campbell, (Who I remember was very upset when Zeek went down)
and Mark Ghobril (say no more)

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Based on this comment from T24, I think you can kiss the Visa card goodbye, and I quote:

" Dear: xxxxxxx:

T24 has no association with WorldEwallet or Banners broker. We have no commercial arrangement with them and we do not supply cards to these entities. Any representation that we would do so is a misuse of our trademark and not sanctioned by our group.
Regards
--
Erik Håkans
Head of Prepaid"

Courtesy of FiscalCliff at MMG.

Aren't you glad that Chris Smith is such a genius and astute businessman!

It looks like Jamie has made it to T&T for BB!

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Originally Posted by HARRISON

It looks like Jamie has made it to T&T for BB!

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Just imagine.......(wavy lines)

What I did on my holidays.
By Jamie Waters aged 24 and a half.

When I went on my holiday to Trinidad I went on a big plane. Trinidad is a very hot country with lots of insects. Some of them bit me! This made me cry at first but then I was very brave and chased them with a rolled up newspaper! When I finished, I looked at the paper and saw an article that said "Infamous Scam Hits Port Of Spain! Furious people threaten visitors to conference centre!" I wonder what this was about? Some of the words were too long for me. Perhaps I will find out later.

Next, I went in a fast car to a big buidling that looked like a hotel or great big hall. The car went so fast I stuck my head out of the window and went WHEEEEEEEEEE!! as we went along. Then we went in a big room and a nice man came along and spoke to me. We were there because I have been playing a game called Banners Broker and I got quite good at it. The room was full of other people who were good at playing this game as well.

The nice man said his name was Chris Smith "but you can call me Mr Smith or Sir," he said with a laugh. Another man who had a name badge on that said "Ron" told me this was a big honour. Mr Smith is a clever man who made up a way of getting lots of money. I was there because he had decided I could be his friend and make money too!

I got my camera out to take some pictures to show all my friends at home, but then a big muscle man man with a badge on that said "Security" smacked my hands so I droipped my camera. He said I could not take pictures because Mr Smith didn't like publicity. I noticed that this big man always stood behind Mr Smith wherever he went. My new friend Ron said that was because Mr Smith was very important and some naughty people who were not a bit important had threatened to hit him! My camera was alright so I can take some photos of palm trees to who that I am really here.

Tomorrow, Mr Smith is going to tell us how great the Banners Broker game is and how we can make lots of money out of it. This is really exciting. I will have to listen very hard so I can find out.

I am tired, so will have to stop writing for now.

From Jamie xx "

Originally Posted by Della Cate

The nice man said his name was Chris Smith "but you can call me Mr Smith or Sir,"

Isn't that spelled C-U-R instead of S-I-R

People are suddenly popping up on the Bb Fb page to say that they are having their $59.99 they've paid out for their WeW card refunded back to them. There are calls for an explanation from BB.

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Funnily enough, no-one from BB has said a word, as yet.

They should count their blessings it's finally $60 they won't lose.

Someone has seen the light......wonder how long this comment will stay visible on the FB page?

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In answer to my question about how long a critical comment would stay visible on the BB FB page, the answer is "about an hour"!

They don't take criticism as a starting point for change and growth, do they?

I am just wondering which BB "Millionaire" will win the big prizes at the T&T big confab?

Originally Posted by EagleOne

I am just wondering which BB "Millionaire" will win the big prizes at the T&T big confab?

You just don't get it...........everybody's a winner with the blind network!

Here are the webinar notes for Fri 11th July.


Ron Anderson speaking:

Welcome to the webinar. We are talking to you from beautiful Trinidad. We arrived this morning. I'm glad you're on the call today to share the excitement.

In less than two days we will be starting our World Tour!

Chris Smith speaking:

It's fantastic being down here in Trinidad. We're going to have fun speaking to all the BB affiliates. We'll be seeing you guys very soon.

Okay, I know the hot topic right now is World eWallet, let's give you the update. It's going to be a brief but important update. Here are the facts. World eWallet has mentioned to me that there were some challenges and a couple of setbacks. Right now there's two independent challenges, one is the credit card processing, which is independent from the actual banking system. So two separate problems.

With regards to the credit card processing, WorldeWallet will be refunding the $59.99 to those who have paid, so that will be coming back to you. There will be a different method to pay once all is sorted out.

The other issue is with the system itself. It's more of a hiccup. It's unfortunate, because we've waited so long for this to go live, so we were hoping for it to be one of our multiple payment mechanisms. but now it's coincided with not having Payza and STP, so the delay feels alot more, it hurts alot more than if we had other options.

So while WeW figures all this out, we will be suspending Admin fees for one month. No admin fees for the month of July. This is only fair since we have no way to payout. Everything else will be moving along as usual inside BB. You will still have full access to the system. We feel this is a good step for the delay that is outside of our control. We have chosen World eWallet and we are sticking with them.

I have not heard yet what the solution will be. I am hoping this solution is one we can move forward with,. Worst case scenario, we do have other options lined up and ready to go. We will not be long without a payout option. So once again, we look forward to the official news release from WeW to see what the solution will be. We were hoping for today, but we are waiting just like you.

I have passed all the information over to you. We have not posted anything more because we only know there is a hiccup and are waiting for it to be smoothed out. So that's the news for WeW.

Questions:

WeW: I'm sure everyone will get that refund. You may have already gotten it.

Keep in mind that the back end functionality and the banking network has been around for over a decade. No we are not the only customer of WeW. I've heard that said here and there, but that is not true. WeW has a new front end for companies like us.

Ron speaking:

You will all get one month with no admin fee. this has not been implemented yet, but will be very soon.

Chris speaking:

So I think that does it for the WeW situation. A couple of you are asking for STP, but no we are no longer working with STP or Payza. The pay-in options are still the same as before.

I know a few people are offering other suggestions of other options to use. Keep in mind that our choice of WeW is because of our relationship with them. I cannot say the same for the providers you are suggesting to me. We could look at several different options. I'm not saying WeW are the best solution, but overall it was the best choice for Bannersbroker. Everyone knows the challenges we have faced over the years with the chatter on the Internet, and we have a partner now that is going to be working with us despite all the Internet rumors and nonsense, which says alot. As you know some other partners have gotten cold feet because of the chatter, but WeW is standing with us.

We are here, we are plugging along business as usual, so take what you read out there with a grain of salt.

Ron Speaking:

Thank you for being with us. We still have alot of work to do to prepare for the Tour on Sunday. If you're interested with what's going on at the Tour, please follow us at Twitter.
www.twitter.com/bannersbroker

We will keep you updated, stay involved and retweet our tweets.

Chris Speaking:

That's a wrap for today. We will be giving you updates over the next week, so keep connected with our social channels and your back office. Happy to be in Trinidad and looking forward to the Tour. Have yourself a fantastic weekend, we're looking forward to meeting up with all you guys who are down here!

(end of webinar)
(summary notes prepared by Linda Lane and are not official BB transcripts. Please include this with all repostings.)

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