Thread: BetRobot - Jet-Coin. Fake cryptocurrency and Simon Stepsys.

Originally Posted by Della Cate

His application is on the Council's website, and shows the householder's name as.....Mark Smith. Whoever he is. Has anyone come across the name before in any other context?

Apparently Stepsys hasn't.

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So Simon said something that "sounds plausible" but does it pass the smell test? Aren't book makers smart enough to figure out which accounts are taking too much of their money irrespective of the name?

Oh drat snorts the bookie, we don't know which "Mark Smith" is taking us to the cleaners. Ironically, the guy below is Neil Smith probably a relation to Mrk.




Bookmakers are "refusing to take bets" from successful gamblers.

Some clients have told the BBC they've had their betting accounts closed or their bets "restricted" following wins.

Bookmakers say they limit bets from a minority of customers to ensure good odds are available to everyone.

Neil Smith, a teacher from Yorkshire, says he's had around 450 online accounts closed. One bookmaker restricted the amount he could bet, and only allowed a 10 pence bet on a 4/1 horse. He said: "They will just say: 'Sorry our traders have deemed your betting pattern to be unprofitable and we're a business'.

Banned from the bookies - BBC News

OOOh, look! Simon has got some REAL Bitcoins!

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Look like chocolate coins to me....

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They look much more like the sort of chocolates people use at Christmas than coins.

No one created a mystical app that pays you 6% per day, if you believe they did you are literally too stupid to handle your own affairs.

Lots of people tell you something is a scam, its a scam. If you block people trying to help, you deserve to lose. And whatever you do, don't think the universe is going to bail your dumb ass out of this one if you try and will it so.

You know why you can't convince people, no one is as stupid as you are. End of the line, when Simon says your job is to share he means send him money share.

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Simon's last group was so successful they had to close it, too many millionaires.

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https://www.facebook.com/groups/Simo...oup/?pnref=lhc

I'm just kidding, Simon doesn't give a crap what happened to their money. Never his problem when the bill comes due.

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Well, maybe he will lie about losing a million after three years of telling people he made millions. Almost the same boat as his victims I'd say.

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*Anyone telling you to roll over your money is in on the joke.


Let's say you think I'm kidding about being hopelessly stupid. Maybe you want to give Betrobot a shot, cause you know in the past 5000 years 6% per day always turns out to be the real deal.

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At 6% per day you will have all your seed money back on day 17 if you don't compound. Plow in $1,000,000, borrow if you must. Then kick back and collect what amounts to the return of your own money for as long as it lasts. Since you have no idea who is running this shooting match, if they disappear on day 12 then I guess you are out of luck. But after day 17 it's all gravy baby, well not gravy as much as cash you will be stealing from later participants. But whatever, finders keepers losers weepers you're now an internet marketer.


By all means screw over your friends and family getting them involved, keep these referral commissions separate. Only an idiot would not recruit and sit back collecting 6% passively when they can drone on day and night about how much money they are making passively. Remember and this is key, 99% of the people you talk to will immediately spot Betrobot as a scam. They are too smart to fall for something as foolish as this. You must unfriend these people, slash their tires, and spit on their shoes. You ONLY want to focus on the dumb 1%, we're talking two standard deviations on the left side of the bell curve idiots.

Of course you will need to tell grammy a few things when her money is gone, here are a few of my favs.

1. Betrobot is experiencing growing pains
2. Betrobot has to upgrade the app
3. Betrobot has stopped payments before, stay positive or I will unfriend you and put you in an old lady's home.
4. We are looking for a new payment processor.
5. Buy buy buy, trust me.
6. Accounts have been hacked, but deputy dog is on the case.
7. Why did you invest more than you could afford to lose?
8. Sure can't take money out, but you can still recruit and earn via the affiliate program.
9. All business has risk, I'm not going to sit around and wait on (1-8) let me tell you about the best program I ever heard of.

Just joshing, 6% per day is totally legitimate and that's all just my jealousy, lack of understanding, negativity, J.O.B. Mentality, you name it rearing it's ugly head. AGAIN!!!


* The longevity of a Ponzi scam is predicated on convincing people first of all that it isn't a scam by giving them portions of their money back AT FIRST. Once the hook is set they must be convinced to plow in greater and greater sums and not take any back out. Once recruiting dries up and/or actual withdrawals exceed cash on hand its over. Then again, sometimes the perpetrators simply close up shop and vanish.

Good post there, Ribshaw. Pretty well says it all.

I especially like this bit:-

"But after day 17 it's all gravy baby, well not gravy as much as cash you will be stealing from later participants. But whatever, finders keepers losers weepers you're now an internet marketer."

Yup. Seems to sum up a lot of "internet Marketers" out there.

Originally Posted by Della Cate

OOOh, look! Simon has got some REAL Bitcoins!

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Umm, pardon my ignorance, but isn't one of the main features and selling points of Bitcoin is the fact it's a DIGITAL currency ???

If that is the case, how on earth did Septic Simon Stepsys end up with gold Bitcoins ???

Originally Posted by littleroundman

Umm, pardon my ignorance, but isn't one of the main features and selling points of Bitcoin is the fact it's a DIGITAL currency ???

If that is the case, how on earth did Septic Simon Stepsys end up with gold Bitcoins ???

Uh, Oh! Another contradiction from Slimy Septic! His followers probably aren't bright enough to understand that DIGITAL currency does not have a physical presence!

Originally Posted by littleroundman

Umm, pardon my ignorance, but isn't one of the main features and selling points of Bitcoin is the fact it's a DIGITAL currency ???

If that is the case, how on earth did Septic Simon Stepsys end up with gold Bitcoins ???

Well, quite.

Chocolate coins, I'm tellin' ya.

Originally Posted by Della Cate

If Simon wants to know who owns Betrobot, he could just check Companies House (as posted above). Information is out there.

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An excerpt from an email just in case anyone wants to stir the pot...



Companies House is a registry of company information. We don’t have the statutory power or capability to verify the accuracy of the information companies send to us. We accept all information companies deliver to us and place it on the public record. The fact information’s been placed on the public record doesn’t indicate we’ve verified or validated it in any way.

Current parliamentary legislation allows us to register and display information to the public. It doesn’t provide us with investigative powers that allow us to become involved in matters like those mentioned in your e-mail.



If your complaint involves the conduct of a company or its officers, you should contact the Insolvency Service



The Insolvency Service is an executive agency of the Department of Business, Innovation and Skills (BIS). The company investigations team can investigate limited companies where there’s a suggestion of corporate abuse. It carries out a range of activities supporting fair and open markets and, where necessary, takes steps to safeguard those markets from companies and individuals whose conduct isn’t in the public interest. This may include serious misconduct, fraud, scams or sharp practice in the way a company operates. To complain about a limited company that is still trading:


The Insolvency Service


https://www.insolvencydirect.bis.gov...Complaint.aspx

Telephone: 0300 678 0017

24-hour answerphone to ask for a form

You can also complain in writing.

Intelligence Hub
Investigations and Enforcement Services
Insolvency Service
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Fraud is a matter we take seriously. We fully appreciate customer concerns and want to do all we can to assist in resolving these issues.


Report allegations of fraud to Action Fraud 0300 123 2040. Further information can be found on their website: Action Fraud. They’ll provide you with a crime reference number which we’ll use in referring your case to law enforcement agencies.


If we receive a subsequent request for information from the police, we’ll assist them in any way we can.


Hope this has been of assistance to you

Fraud Team Integrity Unit

Simon could pop up to Chorley and visit Chris Lomax it's all public info, easily available online. It's not that far from Nantwich
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Betrobot Towers

Originally Posted by But but but pictures of gold bitcoin and fancy cars

Betrobot Towers

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Okee hi guys.

Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

Okee hi guys.

Empower Network

Okee hi guys.

Is My Advertising Pays / The Advert Platform A Scam or Ponzi?

Okee hi guys.

UvioO - worth watching?

Okee hi guys.

GetMyAds - Starring Simon Stepsys As Lead Ponzi Pimp

Okee hi guys.




Okee time to wake up guys.

http://www.realscam.com/f16/simon-stepsys-3342/

https://taratalkstoday.blogspot.com/...r-scammer.html

Originally Posted by Originally Posted by But but but pictures of gold bitcoin and fancy cars

Betrobot Towers

Originally Posted by ribshaw

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damn that's funny

This sounds nothing like BetRbt.

Losing money is a sure bet with sports arbitrage schemes.

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https://www.scamwatch.gov.au/news/lo...itrage-schemes

3 March 2009

SCAMwatch is warning consumers to stay away from sports arbitrage 'opportunities'.

Sport arbitrage involves placing bets on both outcomes of a sporting event, with the intention of making a profit regardless of the outcome.

Sports arbitrage schemes lure consumers by typically promising a risk free profit. They promise impressive returns or 'guaranteed returns' for little to no risk. They may claim that the money made on the scheme will 'compound', increasing over time to provide larger returns. In return, consumers are usually required to pay high entry fees and ongoing fees to participate in the scheme.

But it is highly unlikely that promised high returns from these schemes will eventuate.

The ACCC has received numerous complaints about sports arbitrage schemes. Consumers who participate in these schemes usually complain that the promised returns are false.

These schemes often take the form of a 'syndicate' into which you are asked to pay money, the betting then being conducted by the company on behalf of the group. Alternatively, the company might offer to sell you computer software that promises to identify arbitrage opportunities. In both cases, arbitrage schemes typically involve a large, up-front payment and may involve ongoing fees.

These schemes are typically promoted by Youtube Videos, Facebook "Millionaire Groups", and 'cold calling'—unexpected or unsolicited phone calls that offer a chance to participate in an arbitrage scheme.

Operators will persuade you to join by claiming that the arbitrage scheme employs similar techniques used by large financial institutions or the secret techniques of professional traders. To appear legitimate, arbitrage schemes often distribute glossy brochures and marketing material, with graphs or diagrams depicting an unrealistic rate of return.

Some sports arbitrage schemes are entirely fraudulent. The company will simply disappear after collecting your fees. Some schemes do provide a betting system; however, the returns may be far lower than promised. In some instances it can take participants years simply to recoup the cost of their initial joining fee.

Warning signs

You receive an unsolicited offer to participate in an 'investment' opportunity that sounds too good to be true.
The opportunity promises guaranteed or impressive returns for little to no risk or work.

In your future

You are unable to access money paid into the scheme until certain conditions are met. For example, you open an account with the scheme at $5000 but cannot withdraw any money until it reaches $10 000.

You receive numerous reasons to explain why the scheme is not working as promised.

You have difficulty in contacting the company.

Protect yourself

Delete all spam emails.
Get-rich schemes don’t work! The only person that benefits from get-rich schemes is the scammer.
If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. Why would someone sell it to you?

Report

You can report the matter to the ACCC Infocentre on 1300 302 502 or report a scam through the SCAMwatch website https://www.scamwatch.gov.au/report-a-scam.

You should also be sure to warn your friends, family, colleagues and neighbours about the scam.
More information

https://www.scamwatch.gov.au/types-o...obs-investment

Slap my ass and call me Sally, 6% per day might be a con???


Betting & sports investment schemes

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https://www.scamwatch.gov.au/types-o...stment-schemes


Betting and sports investment scams try to convince you to invest in foolproof systems and software that can 'guarantee' a profit on sporting events.

Common examples of sports investment scams
Warning signs
Protect yourself
Have you been scammed?
More information
Related news
From the web

Common examples of sports investment scams

These scams are simply a form of gambling camouflaged as legitimate investments. Most of the schemes or programs do not work as promised and buyers cannot get their money back. In many cases the supplier simply disappears.
Computer prediction software

The scammer will try to sell you a software program that promises to accurately predict sporting results, usually of team sports or horse racing. They will promise high returns or profits as a result of the program's use.

Team sports betting programs claim to identify opportunities based on historical trends and the different odds offered by various bookmakers. Horse racing software will often claim that predictions are based on weather conditions, the state of the horse, the draw, or the condition of the jockey. They may also claim to track the money that has been placed on a race by professional betters.

Often the information used in these programs can be obtained from the betting pages of your local newspaper at very little cost.
Betting syndicates

The scammer will try and convince you to become a member of a betting syndicate. You will need to pay a compulsory fee (often in excess of $15 000) to join and open a sports betting account. You will be required to make ongoing deposits to maintain the balance of the account.

The scammer tells you that they will use funds in the account to place bets on behalf of the syndicate. You, and other 'syndicate members' are promised a percentage of the profits.
Sports investment

The scammer targets small business operators, professionals, retirees or others with funds to ‘invest’. These schemes are usually promoted as business opportunities or investments at trade fairs, shows or via the internet. People may also be contacted via an unsolicited phone call, email or letter.

The scammer will use technical or financial terms such as 'sports arbitrage',' sports betting', 'sports wagering', 'sports tipping' or 'sports trading' to make these scams look like legitimate investments. Promotional material often takes the form of glossy and sophisticated brochures or websites that contain graphs or diagrams promising large returns for little or no effort.

The scammer may also claim that their company is registered with the Australian Securities and Investments Commission (ASIC).
Warning signs

You approached to invest in a money-making opportunity that promises huge returns and risk-free profits.
The sales pitch is accompanied by glossy promotional material showing extraordinary returns.
The seller uses financial or technical terms to try and sell their product or scheme.
You are told places are strictly limited and you need to buy now in order to secure the software package, or your spot in the scheme.
You are frequently called by salespeople trying to pressure you into buying the product or joining the scheme.

Protect yourself

If you receive a call from someone trying to sell you a sports investment opportunity or prediction software - just hang up.
Be wary of high pressure and slick sales tactics, such as reports on past performance and graphs showing high returns.
Do not let anyone pressure you into making decisions about money or investments - get independent legal or financial advice.
Conduct an independent check on the company selling the scheme or service - often their postal address will turn out to be a car park and no real office exists.
Look out for any ongoing costs associated with the scheme or system.
Make sure you know how to cancel any subscription service that you sign up to.

Have you been scammed?

If you think you have provided your account details, passport, or other personal identification details to a scammer, contact your bank, financial institution, or other relevant agencies immediately.

We encourage you to report scams to the ACCC via the report a scam page. This helps us to warn people about current scams, monitor trends and disrupt scams where possible. Please include details of the scam contact you received, for example, email or screenshot.

We also provide guidance on:

https://www.scamwatch.gov.au/get-hel...elf-from-scams

https://www.scamwatch.gov.au/get-help/where-to-get-help

http://www.realscam.com/f16/simon-stepsys-3342/ says BetRobot is some nifty new app utilizing Surebets. What one really needs to ask is why a new app is needed if the Surebets app is working so well?




You have some magic algorithm thingy that provides guaranteed monthly income on autopilot.

Do you:

a. take out a small loan, put your magic algorithm thingy to work and retire as the richest person on the planet within a few years? Or

b. set up an amateur looking website riddled with spelling mistakes and try to convince people to deposit funds into your bank account?

Surebets Win doesn’t pass the logic test.

SureBets Win Review: Suspect sports arbitrage platform

RewShare Review: $10 "ad pack" Ponzi investment scheme

This will be my last post for the next few days. Thanks for asking, well Ribshaw has some real deal business to attend to. Real business, mixed with a little bit LOT of misbehaving. There will be no pictures, referral links, or You-Tube videos (or at least Ribby hopes none on the last). Unlike the losers telling you about BetRobot I don't need or want your money to make my world go.


Back to our regularly scheduled bashing...

One of the reasons sports betting is so hard is the vig. As a general rule a punter has to bet $11 to win $10 with that dollar going into the bookies pocket. What the bookie next generally wants to do is lay that bet off with a wager on the other side from a second punter also paying $11 to win $10.

The bookie has taken in $22 and will pay out $21. Yes occasionally bookies lose, and occasionally there are risk free opportunities where perhaps the odds have shifted or are out of line. Enough to create an app based on an app that people on Facebook just happened to find out about and kindly want to share with you? Don't Betrobot on it.

http://www.professionalgambler.com/vigorish.html

I encourage our readers to digest some of the detail at Shocking Truths You Learn from Betting on Sports to better comprehend why BetRobot is a Shit Sandwich sans Mayo.

1 – Picking Winning Teams with the Spread Is Hard
2 – There's No Such Thing as a Sure Thing
3 – Home Teams Win More Often, But Not More Often Enough
4 – Betting on Sports Is Hard Work - If You Want To Win, Anyway
5 – Being a Stats Nerd Helps
6 – Bankroll Management Is Almost as Important as Picking Winners
7 – Picking 50% Winners Is Easy - Picking 53% Winners Is the Holy Grail

Assuming a standard 10% vig, you need to win 53% of the time to profit in the long run.
Only a select few sports bettors pick 53% or better. You don't find many of them.

11 – Anyone Can Bet - Few Can Win
12 – It's Not a Hobby
16 – Getting Large Bets Down Can Be as Hard as Picking Winners

*When you start winning on a consistent basis, your bankroll starts growing. Eventually you can reach a point where the bets you want to place become bigger than your betting limits.

This often results in one or both of these two things:

A. The Bookies move the line, meaning you will be betting at less favorable odds.
B. **The bookies will tell you to take your action elsewhere.

17 – A Regular Job Might Be More Profitable

Even some of the profitable sports bettors don't make enough to make it a better option than a job.

20 – Amateurs Pick Games - Pros Handicap Games
21 – You Might Be Better Off Playing Roulette
22 – Paying Less Vig Is the Same as Winning More


*Endless recruiting for fresh cash is the single biggest reason Surebet/BetRobot doesn't add up.

** Casinos and bookmakers are not running soup kitchens. As with people that can count cards in Blackjack gambling establishments will do everything in their power not to take action from winning players.

Originally Posted by ribshaw

well Ribshaw has some real deal business to attend to.

I am eager to join BetRibshaw

Simon's making outlandish claims about his "earnings", while flashing his bling:-

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I'm not completely convinced about the value of the physical manifestation of his bitcoins.....

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More grandiose claims from Simon.....

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The programme he was in last year was presumably My Advertising Pays - "MAP is for life!", as he said; but by the tone of this piece, that is all over and gone.....

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I am glad that some people are asking him questions about MAPs/TAP, and reminding him that he used to say "Buy More!". With luck there will be more and more people out there reminding him of this.

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And what, we might ask, has happened to his involvement with UvioO, Usi-tech and Get My Ads? More dead ducks, are they??

Funnily enough, the comments from Frans Gladwish and Ramdass Lutchumon (above) have completely disappeared from Simon's FB page.

How very predictable.

If this is a small concern, imagine what a BIG concern would look like:

Originally Posted by littleroundman

If this is a small concern, imagine what a BIG concern would look like:

Uh, OH! The math is not working out...again!

Originally Posted by laidback

Uh, OH! The math is not working out...again!

But it's a p*ss-take, isn't it?

Surely it is????

No-one could seriously believe they could make that sort of money from an app on a mobile phone? Could they?

Originally Posted by Della Cate

But it's a p*ss-take, isn't it?

Surely it is????

No-one could seriously believe they could make that sort of money from an app on a mobile phone? Could they?

The idea that anyone would think they could "earn" 1.3 trillion from a currency where there can only be 37 billion in circulation is ludicrous. ( This is based on info that there can only be 21,000,000 bitcoins in circulation and the price is approx. $1773.)