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    Online Home Careers Scam

    This was originally published over at WorkAtHomeTruth, but it's been stolen so many times, I figured I might as well "steal" my own content and put it over here.

    It's being promoted pretty heavily right now.

    This is the Online-Home-Careers.com landing page:
    https://online-home-careers.com/c/index.php?offer_id=11

    Here's the original write-up/warning:

    The Ryan Stephens Online Home Careers scam is a typical lead product for boiler rooms operating out of Florida. I’ve seen hundreds of them from both Florida & Utah – states that have taken boiler room scams to a new level of pyschopathy – taking thousands of dollars from any vulnerable group of people they can find – including the elderly, disabled, or people who’ve recently lost their job.

    As usually, I’ve documented this whole scam in multiple ways, including video recordings.

    Lets Start With Their Useless Refund Policy


    Online Home Careers claims to have a 365 day refund policy. Well – that’s true if they don’t decide to change it and NOT tell you (by the way)…

    Here’s what it says (you’ll only find it at the bottom of the order page):

    “We reserve the right to modify this Refund Policy at our discretion, or against any customer it believes is abusing this policy. Any such revision or change will be binding and effective immediately following the posting of the revised Refund Policy on the website.

    You agree to periodically review our websites, including the current version of our Refund Policy. Our refund policy is made available on our websites. It is your obligation to review our refund policy for any such revisions.”
    Uh, no thanks. I think I’ll pass.

    Fake “Guaranteed Security” Site

    3/15/2013 Update. The pop-up site for the security seal I debunked back in 2012 is no longer working at this time. BUT they are still using those logos on those pages – and they NOW click through to a dead site. I have a video of it, but you can see that by taking look at the following screenshot which shows that the IP for guaranteed-security.com is not resolvable:



    Here’s what was happening back in 2012:

    If you click on the order page of the Online Home Careers site, you’re greeted with a popup that looks like this:



    Which had the following text underneath:

    “Websites displaying these seals on their site are a reflection of trustworthiness. Guaranteed Security is a third-party assessment company that substantiates Website Legitamacy, Website Security, and most of all Consumer Safety.

    The Guaranteed Security seal only appears when the site has passed our intensive verification process.”
    Uh. Since they own the site the popup is on, that’s kind of like a scammer saying, “I promise I won’t scam you. Really. I checked myself out.”

    If you want me to show you how I know the whole security seal operation is a sham, let me know in the comments section and I’ll show you.

    Here’s What Will Happen Next

    I can tell you exactly what’s going to happen in the comment section of this post – it happens almost every time:

    1. You’ll probably see some idiot shill from the Online Home Careers boiler room come here and try to do one of the following:
    2. Pretend like they’re a customer who loves the system.
      Ask how can I know it’s a scam if I haven’t “tried their product” (Answer: I get tons of emails and comments from people who have been ripped off by products like this.
    3. Then I’ll continue with more proof until the readers finally catch on to their shill game.
    4. They’ll leave and never come back.


    If they do come back, don’t worry. I have plenty of backup ammunition (research and documentation) to shut them up.

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    Re: Online Home Careers Scam

    As usual, they are using the "

    Quick-Start Coaching Assessment with a "Start Up Specialist" ploy (which is almos always done to get people to talk to sales people who will try to get as much money as possible out of them for useless "coaching").



    And for good measure, a bunch of income-specific testimonials (here are a couple from the order page). I removed the faces, because who knows where they actually got those photos from.



    Which would appear to fly in the face of the FTC's no safe harbor guidelines mentioned here.

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    Re: Online Home Careers Scam

    This poor guy named Ryan Stephenson apparently started getting traffic because of this scam:

    Is Ryan Stephens Online Home Careers a Scam? - Ryan Stephens Marketing

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    Re: Online Home Careers Scam

    It's not hard to tell where one of the supposed "testimonial" pictures originated:



    comes from:

    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing

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    Re: Online Home Careers Scam

    W0W !!!!!

    An instant $120 off the normal price and all I did was go to the website and then click on the "back" button.



    WOOHOO
    , I'm one of only a "select few"

    How special is that ??

    I may just do it a few more times and see if I can get it entirely free.
    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing

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    Re: Online Home Careers Scam

    According to this at ODigger "Only members of ClickBooth can promote this offer"



    I took a video starting from that offer all the way through to the order page.

    ClickBooth popped up in connection with this as well:
    http://www.realscam.com/f8/123-income-academy-2266/

    Maybe that's how it reached #1 of the top 20 CPA networks here:
    Top 20 CPA Networks - mThink

    You might also remember them from here:
    Marketers Behind Fake News Sites Settle FTC Charges of Deceptive Advertising

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    Re: Online Home Careers Scam

    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post
    It's not hard to tell where one of the supposed "testimonial" pictures originated:

    comes from:
    TinEye says "stock photo", but can't identify a source, used on blogs and whatnot all over the place since 2008. This version is heavily trimmed.
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    Re: Online Home Careers Scam

    Quote Originally Posted by kschang View Post
    TinEye says "stock photo", but can't identify a source, used on blogs and whatnot all over the place since 2008. This version is heavily trimmed.
    Interesting that TinEye isn't identifying a source. I've never seen that before with them. Wonder if they have some newer agreements with stock photos sites about that.

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    Re: Online Home Careers Scam

    I ran one of the images LRM got from Google image search through Tineye and found the image at iStockPhot here:

    Young Woman Playing with Water on Sunny Day - Stock Photo - iStock

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    Work At Home Reviews fake Online Home Careers review

    Looks like Online Home Careers is using Adwords to divert people away from all of the complaints and negative feedback:



    The following shows that Online Home Careers is registered to Zulu Marketing and the site that shows up for the "Online Home Careers" search on Google Adwords is Work-From-Home-Reviews.org which is one of a handful of sites on the same IP as zulumarketing.com. The main sites of interest on that IP are as follows:



    guaranteed-secure.com is the fake security seal mentioned at the beginning of this discussion.

    Not suprisingly, Work-At-Home-Reviews.org recommends Online-Home-Careers.com
    Last edited by JustTooMuchTime; 05-13-2013 at 04:51 PM.

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    ScamsExposer.com Loves Online-Home-Careers.com

    ScamsExposer.com loves Online Home Careers - probably because the company behind ScamsExposer.com is the same company behind Online-Home-Careers.com:



    Zulu Marketing, owner of ScamsExposer.com an Online-Home-Careers would "like to give a poor review, because that’s what we typically do, but Online Home Careers runs a clean operation. High fives to the Online Home Careers team."

    Clean as a dirty whistle!

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    Online-Home-Careers-Scam.com Says Online Home Careers Isn't A Scam

    Online-Home-Careers-Scam.com (registered to the same company that registered Online-Home-Careers.com) has decided that Online Home Careers is NOT a scam. No way!



    For clarification, here's what Online-Home-Careers.com HATES about using the word scam:


    "I dislike the word scam. I think it’s overused. Regret is probably more proper. Some people buy the program and regret their purchase because they don’t want to do it. Luckily there is a 30-day refund policy. From what I can observe, it is most often because people that purchase the program, expect money without lifting a finger. However, the student needs to lift a finger. They need to click a mouse."

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    Online Home Careers Buys It's Own Program To PROVE Online Home Careers Is LEGIT!

    Well, in case you're still wondering if Online Home Careers is a scam or a legitimate home business, the good folks at Online Home Careers have done all of the heavy lifting for you. They have purchased their own course, reviewed their own course and have THIS to say about it:

    "I bought the Online Home Careers and, here it goes… you ready for it? I really like the program. There are a lot of people trying to say some bad things about Online Home Careers, but I don’t think any of them have actually bought the program. Well I did, so I could go through it and check it out."

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    Eddie Stewart Creates Opportunity Through Work And Industry!

    Like all good scammers, Eddie Stewart, the driving force Online Home Careers and the numerous anti-scam sites and fake review sites that love Online Home Careers, LOVES Ayn Rand. Says, Eddie in his post about Fountain Head and Atlas Shrugged:

    "Atlas Shrugged describes what happens when society gets to that point. Those that created opportunity through work and industry and who paid for those entitlements eventually stop providing. They leave.

    I hope that doesn't happen."
    Eddie, if this is the kind of "work" and "industry" you're talking about, I'm pretty sure MOST people would hope they DO leave, or at least stop engaging in "Industry".

    As one SaltyDroid once said:

    "Live hypocrisy until you’re dead inside” :: is Utah’s State Motto.

    Maybe …

    Not really :: I lied … goddamnit Droid stop lying! I don’t even deserve to be your fifteen thousand dollar mentor.

    Actually :: their motto is :: “Industry” … which is perfect as long as you remember to include the air quotes."

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    Re: Online Home Careers Scam

    I was trying to remember the guy who went to jail for similar nonsense, I think it was Matt Wazu or Ragu, I went to look for it and then got sidetracked. He was one of the internet pioneers of this sort of chicanery.
    "It's virtually impossible to violate rules ... but it's impossible for a violation to go undetected, certainly not for a considerable period of time." Bernie Madoff
    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Scam-...98399986981403

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    Re: Online Home Careers Scam

    Quote Originally Posted by ribshaw View Post
    I was trying to remember the guy who went to jail for similar nonsense, I think it was Matt Wazu or Ragu, I went to look for it and then got sidetracked. He was one of the internet pioneers of this sort of chicanery.
    I think you're thinking of Matt Gagnon of Mazu.com:
    http://www.sec.gov/litigation/admin/2012/34-66907.pdf

    One of his products I bought EARLY on about marketing was decent enough, but a few years later he started promoting all kinds of REALLY, REALLY scammy stuff.

    Did he actually go to jail? I didn't really follow that case very much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustTooMuchTime View Post
    I think you're thinking of Matt Gagnon of Mazu.com:
    http://www.sec.gov/litigation/admin/2012/34-66907.pdf

    One of his products I bought EARLY on about marketing was decent enough, but a few years later he started promoting all kinds of REALLY, REALLY scammy stuff.

    Did he actually go to jail? I didn't really follow that case very much.
    Nope:



    Full article on Patrick Pretty.com blog
    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing

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    Online Home Careers Full Throttle Scamming!

    It's the little things that make the difference.

    Online Home Careers doesn't piddle around with coy little expressions like "As Advertised On" MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, USAToday, abc, etc. like the more timid Leading Home Profit Network.

    Online Home Careers is balls to the walls scamming by claiming to have been SEEN ON MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, USAToday, abc, etc.



    Come on, live a little Leading Home Profit Network!

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    Scam-Exposer.com is THE #1 Scam Exposing Website!

    According to Scam-Exposer.com, a site registered to the same person behind Online-Home-Careers.com, is THE #1 Scam Exposing site (according to itself).

    Luckily, it has found a non-scam: Online Home Careers.


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    Re: Online Home Careers Scam

    It seems the lads are getting more cunning with their domain registrations:



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    Re: Online Home Careers Scam

    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post
    It seems the lads are getting more cunning with their domain registrations:



    Interesting about Charneaux - I was looking into him the other day.

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    Re: Online Home Careers Scam

    This video testimonials from Online Home Careers | Scam Exposer are TOTALLY real. ;-)


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    Re: Online Home Careers Scam

    Here's another "totally real" video testimonial about Online Home Careers:



    And remember, according to "Joe" from Florida at the end of the video: "Call your coach, you won't regret it."

    Nothing could possible go wrong with that!

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    Re: Online Home Careers Scam

    When you can buy testimonials on Fiverr (for $5), who gives a **** about testimonials? :) Even video?
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    Re: Online Home Careers Scam

    Utah Biz records says the address belongs to a "WealthFactory LLC", but it cost a buck to view the principals. To view the application (scanned) cost $2. Sheesh.

    https://secure.utah.gov/bes/action/d...y=8182097-0151

    Corporation Wiki says these companies all have the same address... any familiar names?

    654 N 800 E Spanish Fork, UT 84660

    654 N 800 E Spanish Fork, UT 84660
    Companies at this address:

    Absolute Balance Consulting, LLC
    Bkj Holdings, LLC
    Composure Press, LLC
    Creditcardmachinerentals.Com, LLC
    Ecorpimages, Inc.
    Elizabeth A Roberts
    Fixedstream, LLC
    Forex Club
    Innovations 21, LLC
    Mack Enterprises
    Silverstrand, LLC
    Socialnexus, Inc
    Sonidone Enterprises
    Steward Capital , LLC
    Stone Creek Homes and Construction
    Subcon Services Inc.
    Techhead.Net
    The Bob Hope Co
    The Trashinator LLC
    Trushape LLC
    Vistature Media Group, LLC
    Wealth Factory, LLC
    Zulu


    People at this address:

    Becky Mack
    Benjamin H. Jacobson
    Bob Hope
    Elizabeth A. Roberts
    Jim Roberts
    Josh Carr
    Mandy Wilding
    Mitchel Dayley
    Nathan W. Gwilliam
    Reta Hansen
    Robert Mack
    Russell C. Gaede
    Sonia Muldon
    Spencer Henry
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