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re: FlexKom aka Flexcom aka Weeconomy - legitimate MLM or scam ??
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Originally Posted by
StevenHoward
Me either, would be nice to see if any Turkish nationals can tell us about their experiences of purchasing through FlexKon .
One thing that's nice to see is that this *opportunity* has been spotted solely because of Ian Driscoll's involvement, he's often one of the 1st in the UK to be involved in any new internet marketing scheme, because of his involvement with BB and other *opportunities*, IMHO he's definitely marked anything he's involved in as worth taking a closer look at.
He seems to be UK's ken russo
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re: FlexKom aka Flexcom aka Weeconomy - legitimate MLM or scam ??
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Originally Posted by
Whip
He seems to be UK's ken russo
I didn't know who russo was, after a little bit of googling, yes, he sounds a right shark.
Why do people with track records like this never appear to end up in prison ?, or appear never to be confronted?, or get beaten up etc (not suggesting anyone should).
But back to driscoll, if he is like this and this is another unsavoury scheme, why don't the Police take an interest, we do have Crimestoppers you know.
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re: FlexKom aka Flexcom aka Weeconomy - legitimate MLM or scam ??
Hmm. Wonder if they did a little "fundraising" before they launched in 2010:
http://i1242.photobucket.com/albums/...ps304db9d2.png
Harvard Invest s.r.o is listed as a company liquidated in 2004 here:
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re: FlexKom aka Flexcom aka Weeconomy - legitimate MLM or scam ??
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Originally Posted by
JustTooMuchTime
Hmm. Wonder if they did a little "fundraising" before they launched in 2010:
Good find, the website associated with the Mustafa Keeskin is at Home - Karle UG & Co. KG the site is down for maintenance at the moment, there is also a fax number and address for the company
Industriestr. Thirty-seven
89231 Neu-Ulm,
Germany
Fax: +49 (0) 180-50202253285
https://plus.google.com/103302882650...ut?gl=uk&hl=en
They appear to be a commercial agency, put this into google maps "Industriestr. Thirty-seven 89231 Neu-Ulm," and it shows up what appears to be a large commercial premises.
Maybe Mustafa just registers domain names on behalf of companies.
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re: FlexKom aka Flexcom aka Weeconomy - legitimate MLM or scam ??
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Please Note ALL Flexkom meetings are
Business Dress Suite and Tie ( NO Jeans )
Meetings will start on time and anyone that
is even 1 min late WILL NOT be allowed
to enter the meeting that has started.
Is that a 3 piece Suite or a Two piece Suite that you need to wear. Sofa I have no idea :RpS_smile:
To be honest anyone that told me how to dress to a business meeting would be an instant no. Even as an accountant I don't wear suits anymore.
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re: FlexKom aka Flexcom aka Weeconomy - legitimate MLM or scam ??
This seems a bit similar to another business that I have been pitched to Lyoness Lyoness Cashback | Money Back With Every Purchase - Lyoness UK
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re: FlexKom aka Flexcom aka Weeconomy - legitimate MLM or scam ??
According to a couple of articles on Obtainer, Flexkom has been operating in Turkey for a couple of years now.
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re: FlexKom aka Flexcom aka Weeconomy - legitimate MLM or scam ??
Just come across this on https://www.facebook.com/BBWWTV
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Anyone heard of 'flexkom' ? Well you will be next year! The Rugby Union have just signed up and bought 500,000 cards ! At 20% per card that's mad! .. have a nosey at this
flexkomreview.org and let me know what you think... (official sitehttp://flexkom.com/) - They are filing to list on the New York Stock Exchange... 2013 is going to be huge!! (oh, and the offer has been extended until the end of the year). As you can imagine, I've had sleepless nights and cant wait!!
Really, a deal with the Rugby Union?
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re: FlexKom aka Flexcom aka Weeconomy - legitimate MLM or scam ??
It does seem that a lot of the Banners Broker faithful are moving over to this (or peddling both).
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re: FlexKom aka Flexcom aka Weeconomy - legitimate MLM or scam ??
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Originally Posted by
Hypanor
According to a couple of articles on
Obtainer, Flexkom has been operating in Turkey for a couple of years now.
Seems like a self-submit article site just like fake press release sites.
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re: FlexKom aka Flexcom aka Weeconomy - legitimate MLM or scam ??
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Originally Posted by
hendyphilhendy
It's certainly a load of balls...
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re: FlexKom aka Flexcom aka Weeconomy - legitimate MLM or scam ??
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Originally Posted by
Whip
Seems like a self-submit article site just like fake press release sites.
Don't think its quite in that category, but as many trade publications do it is possibly just a copy/pasted press release, or 'advertorial'. Obtainer is a published magazine in Europe and Middle East - started out in Germany (2006) with half a million readers, and now claims to have 2.5m readers.
From what I understand about Flexkom, it requires retailers etc to come on board for it to work - Its a loyalty card crossed with a barter card, that isn't tied into any one retailer or product, but also has its own products to sell. A little confusing but on the face of it looks legit. Its certainly quite large in Turkey, as my cousin who lives there has attested to.
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re: FlexKom aka Flexcom aka Weeconomy - legitimate MLM or scam ??
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Originally Posted by
Hypanor
According to a couple of articles on
Obtainer, Flexkom has been operating in Turkey for a couple of years now.
This article is bizarre:
FlexKom Gaining Importance in Turkey
They spend a huge deal of their article trying to convince people that it's not a scam.
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"is so often the case, rapid growing direct sales companies and all their other forms, such as multi-level marketing, then become the object of sweeping criticism and material for sensational journalism."
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"Completely with the core code of neutral and objective research, stories are written about direct sales and MLM companies in which some essential information is withheld or lumped together, even though the explanation of the detail, particularly in the networking industry, decides between black and white, legal or illegal."
I love this part:
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"Everything that is not mainstream, everything that is different, is under attack. It requires no philosophical knowledge to know that it is no different with and in the networking industry. This industry therefore inevitably has to do without quality journalism."
So THAT'S the problem - no quality journalism.
I tried to read past this part, but laughter got the best of me:
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"The ambitious plans of FlexKom will be observed with suspicion by competitors and media resources will even be used for defamation. "
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re: FlexKom aka Flexcom aka Weeconomy - legitimate MLM or scam ??
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Originally Posted by
JustTooMuchTime
This article is bizarre:
FlexKom Gaining Importance in Turkey
They spend a huge deal of their article trying to convince people that it's not a scam.
I love this part:
So THAT'S the problem - no quality journalism.
I tried to read past this part, but laughter got the best of me:
Yeah. Never saw Microsoft, Google, Cisco, AMD, Intel have to do any of that. lol. They really red-flag themselves and make our job much easier.
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re: FlexKom aka Flexcom aka Weeconomy - legitimate MLM or scam ??
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Originally Posted by
Hypanor
A little confusing but on the face of it looks legit. Its certainly quite large in Turkey, as my cousin who lives there has attested to.
If it is deemed legit, the next question is "is it viable?" Does your cousin know how much their charging the retailers, if anything?
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re: FlexKom aka Flexcom aka Weeconomy - legitimate MLM or scam ??
I don't know much about the whois info but see Ian Driscoll mentioned here as owning flexcom.tel
FlexKom.tel - Flex Kom
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re: FlexKom aka Flexcom aka Weeconomy - legitimate MLM or scam ??
I took the liberty of grabbing that before it goes anonymous:
Domain Name: FLEXKOM.TEL
Domain ID: D2864672-TEL
Sponsoring Registrar: ASCIO TECHNOLOGIES INC.
Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID: 106
Registrar URL (registration services): One connection domain registrar | Ascio
Domain Status: ok
Registrant ID: AT909596093372
Registrant Name: Ian Driscoll
Registrant Organization: Nexus IMG
Registrant Address1: 19 Bar house Lane
Registrant City: Utley, Keighley
Registrant State/Province: West Yorkshire
Registrant Postal Code: BD20 6HA
Registrant Country: UNITED KINGDOM
Registrant Country Code: GB
Registrant Phone Number: +44.7968006296
Registrant Facsimile Number: +44.7968006296
Registrant Email: http://source.domaintools.com/email....;]=transparent
Administrative Contact ID: AT909596113472
Administrative Contact Name: Easily Limited
Administrative Contact Organization: Easily Limited
Administrative Contact Address1: 3rd Floor, Prospero House
Administrative Contact Address2: 241 Borough High St.
Administrative Contact City: London
Administrative Contact State/Province: N/A
Administrative Contact Postal Code: SE1 1GA
Administrative Contact Country: UNITED KINGDOM
Administrative Contact Country Code: GB
Administrative Contact Phone Number: +44.8704589450
Administrative Contact Facsimile Number: +44.8704589458
Administrative Contact Email: http://source.domaintools.com/email....;]=transparent
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re: FlexKom aka Flexcom aka Weeconomy - legitimate MLM or scam ??
The question that anyone thinking of joining FlexKom should be asking themselves is why are none of the leaders of the legitimate ecommerce world involved in this scheme? If it is so innovative, why haven't they tried to poach people from eBay, Amazon etc? This would be the normal way for a new business in the ecommerce world to proceed. Why is it full of names of serial MLMers, and others from HYIP schemes?
Equally, if it is so real and so innovative, why haven't they raised capital for it through the normal financing system? Or even crowd sourcing? Why finance it through an MLM members network? Even the legitimate MLMs have capital and production assets. The Herbalifes, Amways, Foreverlivings, etc etc of this world own factories and have production operations. It is fairly clear that operations of the FlexKom type are offering "a pay to participate in the game" opportunity, not the chance to participate/invest in a real business. As a member, what do you actually buy and what is its real value?
Red flags flying cheerfully over all the FlexKom operations and its efforts to rope in a new bunch of suckers who are unused to this kind of game, this time from Turkey.
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re: FlexKom aka Flexcom aka Weeconomy - legitimate MLM or scam ??
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Domain Name: FLEXKOM.TEL
Domain ID: D2864672-TEL
Sponsoring Registrar: ASCIO TECHNOLOGIES INC.
Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID: 106
Registrar URL (registration services):
One connection domain registrar | Ascio
Domain Status: ok
Registrant ID: AT909596093372
Registrant Name:
Ian Driscoll
Registrant Organization:
Nexus IMG
Registrant Address1:
19 Bar house Lane
Registrant City:
Utley, Keighley
Registrant State/Province:
West Yorkshire
Registrant Postal Code:
BD20 6HA
Registrant Country:
UNITED KINGDOM
Registrant Country Code:
GB
Registrant Phone Number:
+44.7968006296
Registrant Facsimile Number:
+44.7968006296
Registrant Email:
http://source.domaintools.com/email....;]=transparent
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re: FlexKom aka Flexcom aka Weeconomy - legitimate MLM or scam ??
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Originally Posted by
JustTooMuchTime
If it is deemed legit, the next question is "is it viable?" Does your cousin know how much their charging the retailers, if anything?
I should have said "legal" not "legit". Two different animals.
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re: FlexKom aka Flexcom aka Weeconomy - legitimate MLM or scam ??
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Originally Posted by
JustTooMuchTime
If it is deemed legit, the next question is "is it viable?" Does your cousin know how much their charging the retailers, if anything?
300 euros for the terminal and a supply of loyalty cards
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re: FlexKom aka Flexcom aka Weeconomy - legitimate MLM or scam ??
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Originally Posted by
JustTooMuchTime
If it is deemed legit, the next question is "is it viable?" Does your cousin know how much their charging the retailers, if anything?
Doesn't know much more than "heard of it, been around for a while, not involved - it's a loyallty card, aren't they all rorts to get people to buy things they don't need from people they wouldn't do business with?"
I'm trying to remember the name of the multi-retailer loyalty card that was being promoted in Aus a while back as "The Next Great Shopping Thing", it disappeared in a puff of non-interest.
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re: FlexKom aka Flexcom aka Weeconomy - legitimate MLM or scam ??
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Originally Posted by
Theseus
300 euros for the terminal and a supply of loyalty cards
Anyone seen any of these otherwise mythical "terminals" ??
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re: FlexKom aka Flexcom aka Weeconomy - legitimate MLM or scam ??
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Originally Posted by
Hypanor
Doesn't know much more than "heard of it, been around for a while, not involved - it's a loyallty card, aren't they all rorts to get people to buy things they don't need from people they wouldn't do business with?"
I'm trying to remember the name of the multi-retailer loyalty card that was being promoted in Aus a while back as "The Next Great Shopping Thing", it disappeared in a puff of non-interest.
Was it Pre-Launch Australia?
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I don't recall it being advertised as an MLM - more a new loyalty card that will set the retail buyers world on fire. I dislike the whole idea of loyalty cards so didn't take much more notice of it. It was mentioned in the mainstream press for a while and was out of Melbourne, so it could have been Pre-Launch but that name doesn't ring a bell.