Thread: FlexKom aka Flexcom aka Weeconomy - legitimate MLM or scam ??

Originally Posted by littleroundman

The 2 flex money can be used for international calls on the flex phone it can't be used for purchases.

Originally Posted by justlogicnohate

The 2 flex money can be used for international calls on the flex phone it can't be used for purchases.

You mean that I can only use the FM that I save for phone calls?
Flexkom business model is getting worse by the minute.

Originally Posted by littleroundman

Yes it would be very hard for a person employed to press buttons to press the right ones. Maybe if they have a monkey working for them it could be disastrous and if it's not secured tightly it may drink a redbull and fly away

SCAM PARTY IN PARIS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjIHWmcsoH8

So good to see how the blatant scam accusations are simmering down and now the topic has moved to how the system doesn't make sense. I would say that is some progress.... I have a request. All you guys agree to never take a Flexapp as a bet you make on how sure you are it will never work. So every time you are asked if you have the Flexapp it will remind you of these wonderful times

Originally Posted by justlogicnohate

All you guys agree to never take a Flexapp as a bet you make on how sure you are it will never work. So every time you are asked if you have the Flexapp it will remind you of these wonderful times

You mean this one?
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Originally Posted by justlogicnohate

So good to see how the blatant scam accusations are simmering down and now the topic has moved to how the system doesn't make sense. I would say that is some progress....

Welcome back. Perhaps while you are here you could post the BM earnings statement so we could allow potential investors to properly evaluate the claims of this being a game changer.

Originally Posted by justlogicnohate

I have a request. All you guys agree to never take a Flexapp as a bet you make on how sure you are it will never work. So every time you are asked if you have the Flexapp it will remind you of these wonderful times

Funny you should mention this, just yesterday I posted in another group on Facebook and NO ONE had heard of FlexKom. Seems outside of the "recruiting as a business community" not many have heard of Flexkom.

Originally Posted by justlogicnohate

So good to see how the blatant scam accusations are simmering down and now the topic has moved to how the system doesn't make sense. I would say that is some progress.... I have a request. All you guys agree to never take a Flexapp as a bet you make on how sure you are it will never work. So every time you are asked if you have the Flexapp it will remind you of these wonderful times

Oh, there is no doubt it is a blatant scam, we just looking into idea hypothetically if the idea has any possible real-life scenario.

Just a fact that you have zero activity and your never stopping to switch directors running away with 6 digits checks is 100% proof of a scam.

Originally Posted by justlogicnohate

So good to see how the blatant scam accusations are simmering down and now the topic has moved to how the system doesn't make sense. I would say that is some progress.... I have a request. All you guys agree to never take a Flexapp as a bet you make on how sure you are it will never work. So every time you are asked if you have the Flexapp it will remind you of these wonderful times

Personally I prefer to focus on, who the people are, and the past history of who is asking me to give them money. Flexkom has a long list of previous offenders as well as an entire European continent complaining about this scam and the people behind it. However, discussion about the product is substantive so I thought this was interesting:

Paul c says:
March 13, 2014 at 4:58 pm
A business associate pitched FlexKom to me in the UK quite a while back (2012 from memory) and I was immediately cautious.

I am a technology professional as well as a business owner so was immediately cautious due to the ‘too good to be true’ nature of the pitch. I have no doubt my associate was well intentioned but it was clear they had been sucked in.

A few points which stopped me putting my money in -

Having developed financial systems for insurers with actuaries I followed the cashflow through for a number if cases and scenarios – it doesn’t stack up.

The rep was unable to specify any protection for retailers operating on tight margins from consistently loosing out by having to release products for credit (which we know isn’t real money)

The flexkom national manager made some sensational claims about how advanced their tech stack was – such as instant delivery of retailers marketing videos to mobile apps with NO buffering. This is technically an impossibility, it either needs to buffer whilst being delivered instantly and be subject to GSM carrier restrictions in bandwidth and speed or; not delivered instantly but downloaded in the background for uniterupted playback.

Not wanting to entirely doubt my friend I followed up with some very detailed technical queries as this would be easiest for me to validate based on my skills.

Where are the servers hosted and by who? We have our own in Germany.

Which operating system do the devices use and which version: we have developed our own propriety OS for performance reasons (maybe they are huge as it would seem the android platform was built specifically for their app! :-/ )

There were more sensationally obscure, technically impossible or blatantly vague answers to the 30 or so questions I posed but I don’t wish to waste time reflecting them here. Folk can of course make up their own mind on this one, but for me it’s not even MLM (which can be productive) as this proposition seems to rely entirely on blinding people with marketing BS and degenerative maths.

- See more at: Is FlexKom a Scam? » Lazy Man and Money

Originally Posted by freighttrain

I dont see how that relates to printing a QR code and my suggestion to simply let everyone registrer via a website in stead of the need to get invited by some sales rep.

It relates to you saying it is a stupid idea as many have said about ideas that where not so stupid

Originally Posted by justlogicnohate

It relates to you saying it is a stupid idea as many have said about ideas that where not so stupid

Unlike some examples in the link you've provided, Flexkom is a stupid idea. It is exactly the same idea as Lyoness. Now tell me about all the success that Lyoness has got. Oh wait, Lyoness has not got any success over the past 10 years that they exist.

Originally Posted by justlogicnohate

So good to see how the blatant scam accusations are simmering down and now the topic has moved to how the system doesn't make sense. I would say that is some progress.... I have a request. All you guys agree to never take a Flexapp as a bet you make on how sure you are it will never work. So every time you are asked if you have the Flexapp it will remind you of these wonderful times

That's a deal if you keep on telling everybody about Flexkom, even when it has already turned out that Flexkom failed miserably. You'd be reminded for the rest of your live that you've fallen for an obvious scam.

Originally Posted by freighttrain

As I already have said before, to be precise, in the exact quote you've done on me:
Why not just enable to register via flexkom.com without an invitation of a rep or store? Much easier. Also, when Flexkom does make it to the newspaper or other media, people don't have to search for a rep or store first. They can sign up right away.

But you wouln't understand that. Because if you did, you'd also understand you are a useless asset in the Flexkom system, to parasitize on the stores.

Yeah what company would need a sales division we are not doing anything the terminals sell themselves Joker

Originally Posted by justlogicnohate

Yeah what company would need a sales division we are not doing anything the terminals sell themselves Joker

You don't see me having a sales division. Yet I've managed to get in touch with you, Micah, who lives all across the globe. How come?

Better yet; where are the sales divisions of whatsapp, facebook, twitter? Really, where are they?

Originally Posted by freighttrain

You mean that I can only use the FM that I save for phone calls?
Flexkom business model is getting worse by the minute.

Wow you guys are a piece of work The 2 flex money that are pre loaded can only be used for calls The money you get from merchant transaction you can buy me an apology Hallmark card with later.

Originally Posted by justlogicnohate

Wow you guys are a piece of work The 2 flex money that are pre loaded can only be used for calls The money you get from merchant transaction you can buy me an apology Hallmark card with later.

So there are diffrent kinds of FlexMoney? Those you can spend in stores and those that you can only use to pay for a paid Skype service?

Many of your sales team don't get it. This piece of work tells me that I can spend the 2 flexmoney locally in stores. You should tell him he's wrong.
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.p...d=168611244290

And do you think that a sales division like yourself is doing a good job telling people who are discussing the company that this sales division is working for, that they are a piece of work? Do you think that is a professional way of working? Does Flexkom encourage his sales division to be rude and impolite?

Originally Posted by freighttrain

You don't see me having a sales division. Yet I've managed to get in touch with you, Micah, who lives all across the globe. How come?

What does Micha have to do w my post Joker? And what division would sell the terminal ? Customer service ? Maybe customer service can send emails and sign up all the stores Joker

Originally Posted by justlogicnohate

What does Micha have to do w my post Joker? And what division would sell the terminal ? Customer service ? Maybe customer service can send emails and sign up all the stores Joker

You are Micah Theard. No need to pretend that you're not.

Nevertheless, if I manage to get to you, mister John Doe (aka. Micah), wouldn't that mean that a company does not need a horde of sales reps?

As you can see in the videos on youtube, you do not need a special tablet. Flexkom could have just made an app (one that works, that is) and offer that to download by the merchants and the consumers. Way easier, way more viral. Now, there are all those zombies out there making all kinds of claims about Flexkom that are not true. For instance, the guy who thinks that the 2 flexmoney on the app are to be spend at stores. Lots of confusion amongst Flexkom sales reps.

Who pays to replace the terminal/Android tablet if & when it is stolen? How much will they need to pay?

Originally Posted by Joe_Shmoe

Who pays to replace the terminal/Android tablet if & when it is stolen? How much will they need to pay?

Its funny you mention that Joe, I got to wondering about collecting the terminal when a merchant bails. BUT what then of the terminal that has been in a restaurant or garage for a few months getting beat to hell and greasy? Nothing says we are a professional organization like "here is your beaten up, scratched, chicken grease filled terminal from the last shop."

Unless the merchants catch on what a poor deal this is, one has to conclude that in some situations it will not be a one time $500 per merchant cost.

Originally Posted by ribshaw

... I got to wondering about collecting the terminal when a merchant bails.

If you sign up as a merchant, get the free POS device, and then jail-break it, is that an easy way to get a free tablet?

You don't have to tell FlexKom that you quit ... it's just been a "quiet month", that's all!

(Because all your true discounts are given off the record ... )

Originally Posted by freighttrain

So there are diffrent kinds of FlexMoney? Those you can spend in stores and those that you can only use to pay for a paid Skype service?


Many of your sales team don't get it. This piece of work tells me that I can spend the 2 flexmoney locally in stores. You should tell him he's wrong.
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.p...d=168611244290

And do you think that a sales division like yourself is doing a good job telling people who are discussing the company that this sales division is working for, that they are a piece of work? Do you think that is a professional way of working? Does Flexkom encourage his sales division to be rude and impolite?

Did you not know that Skype is also a paid service wow ignorance is rampant. Pardon me so much for being frank but you guys keep stroking each other on here and buy into each others bs. Who on here actually is a business owner? Anyone ? Do any of you own a store?

Originally Posted by justlogicnohate

Who on here actually is a business owner? Anyone ?

Do you not read the thread, there is more than one business owner/self employed person who posts here. And a good handful of people who have added some very useful content, no matter what they do. Almost everything posted here has been a direct challenge to the purported business of Flexkom. Four FK reps have showed up and been given a more than ample chance to answer questions that real business people should care about, either as a merchant, or a BM. All we have gotten is some puffery and the occasional MLM meltdown, which is always a crowd pleazer.

Let me guess, you are one of the folks who still believes Robert Kiysoaki really had a "rich dad" who imparted worldly advice on him when he was 11?

This is a recruiting scam, plain and simple. No earnings statements posted, what's to hide? Worldwide merchant network can be found where? Revenue per terminal? Where where where?

How about Google, have they heard of them, OH YEAH you can get a whole list what a great opportunity this is. 4 1/2 years in this is a JOKE.

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Originally Posted by freighttrain

You are Micah Theard. No need to pretend that you're not.

Nevertheless, if I manage to get to you, mister John Doe (aka. Micah), wouldn't that mean that a company does not need a horde of sales reps?

As you can see in the videos on youtube, you do not need a special tablet. Flexkom could have just made an app (one that works, that is) and offer that to download by the merchants and the consumers. Way easier, way more viral. Now, there are all those zombies out there making all kinds of claims about Flexkom that are not true. For instance, the guy who thinks that the 2 flexmoney on the app are to be spend at stores. Lots of confusion amongst Flexkom sales reps.

So people are misinformed (as with who I am obviously) sometimes that happens in this model that is what contracts and policy pages are for. Do you think every person who signs up for Flexkom knows all the info by default?

Do you always talk out if your own butt? Are you really comparing this to selling a $500 service to a store Honestly I hear circus music when reading your post mr.

Originally Posted by justlogicnohate

Do you always talk out if your own butt? Are you really comparing this to selling a $500 service to a store Honestly I hear circus music when reading your post mr.

Originally Posted by justlogicnohate

Did you not know that Skype is also a paid service wow ignorance is rampant. Pardon me so much for being frank but you guys keep stroking each other on here and buy into each others bs. Who on here actually is a business owner? Anyone ? Do any of you own a store?

I think Flexkom is proud, having well mannered sales people like you on board.

If you weren't trying so hard I'd almost think that you're a troll, wanting to destruct Flexkom by pretending to be one of Flexkom and then go on a rampage on forums, blogs and youtube. Unfortunally, you actually are one of Flexkoms reps. Poor Flexkom.

Originally Posted by justlogicnohate

Do you always talk out if your own butt?

As has been noted earlier in this thread, rudeness on anybody's part does not help the discussion. And it makes you look especially silly when you've put the words "no hate" in your name.