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    Quote Originally Posted by freighttrain View Post
    Makes no sense. Why would someone who owns a smartphone, not carry it with him? Whats the point if he visits next time, has scanned the QR code at home and again forgot his smartphone?

    Why not just enable to register via flexkom.com without an invitation of a rep or store? Much easier. Also, when Flexkom does make it to the newspaper or other media, people don't have to search for a rep or store first. They can sign up right away.

    Yes, that way there isn't anyone who gets residual income from the customers who have spontaneous thought of getting the Flexkom app. This makes Flexkom suddenly much cheaper. The whole idea of residual income with a system like Flexkom is a stupid idea to begin with.
    If they want to bring the discount with them like delivery of a pizza they may want to leave the terminal at the pizza shop? Not sure if that is a good idea lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by justlogicnohate View Post
    If they want to bring the discount with them like delivery of a pizza they may want to leave the terminal at the pizza shop? Not sure if that is a good idea lol
    I seem to have missed this one.

    Why don't you let go of the idea that there has to be a QR code for a second. If I order a pizza, they most likely know a few things about me. Like;
    My phone number
    My email address
    My address

    Wouldn't be one of these things be enough for them to know who I am and give me my discount? Flexkom could simply connect a phone number or email address to a Flexkom customer account. Way more easy than scanning a QR code when delivering pizza's. Hell, even easier at a store. I wouldn't have to reach out for my phone and even when I forget my phone or when the battery is dead, they'd still be able to give me my discount. I'd just tell them my phone number and it's done.

    Doesn't it bother you that Flexkom has never thought of this?

    But this all does not make any sense as they could just as wel lower the price a bit and skip all the Flexkom work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freighttrain View Post
    I think Flexkom is proud, having well mannered sales people like you on board.


    If you weren't trying so hard I'd almost think that you're a troll, wanting to destruct Flexkom by pretending to be one of Flexkom and then go on a rampage on forums, blogs and youtube. Unfortunally, you actually are one of Flexkoms reps. Poor Flexkom.
    I'm hurt really

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    Quote Originally Posted by justlogicnohate View Post
    I'm hurt really
    You should be. You represent a company and your behaviour makes the company look bad. Can't you see that?

    If you really would be a good sales man, then you'd see what a great opportunity you have on a forum like this one. You've already got tens, maybe even a hundred people talking about your company. All you need to do is show what a great company you are and you've just turned a hundred people into your personal ambassadors.

    But you can't see that opportunity. You are not someone capable of noticing such things. You're just a schmuck coming here all frustrated on how your Flexkom adventure is slowly but surely turning into one big disappointment.

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    Minute 50 they do several transactions including paying with Flexmoney. The owner who actually have a business unlike the guys on here he should know what he needs and what Flexkom is for him. FlexKom Mobile Commerce Presentation - YouTube

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    Quote Originally Posted by justlogicnohate View Post
    Minute 50 they do several transactions including paying with Flexmoney. The owner who actually have a business unlike the guys on here he should know what he needs and what Flexkom is for him. FlexKom Mobile Commerce Presentation - YouTube
    It is a demo transaction. The guys have a POS of their own. Cute.

    You should know that payment with FlexMoney is not yet possible at a real store. Flexkom is somewhat vague about to why that is, but fact is, that it is not possible yet. Did you know that?

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    Tom McMurrain is back with the most bizarre scam ever



    By Okke Ornstein - September, 17th 2010


    Hey, McMurrain! You wanna sue us again?

    Friesner’s pimp has a free lawyer for you on offer who has been in jail too!

    Remember Tom McMurrain? No? Oh, man, we wouldn’t know where to start. Noni and teak scams. Imaginary tree houses with elevators for the disabled. An independent country that was to be “a physical and virtual community on the natural resources of ones and zeros”. Yours truly discovered two arrest warrants against him for fraud in Atlanta, Georgia, which he vehemently denied. He even sued, lost, appealed – and before he could do any more damage he was indeed arrested and thrown in the slammer. So were several of his employees, by the way. His marketing director was wanted in Costa Rica for fraud and child sex abuse, for example. Other cases included boating under the influence, assault, more fraud – McMurrain ran a high profile robbers den in Panama under the name “San Cristobal Land Development”.

    Well, he’s out of jail. And he’s back! Up to no good, of course. We had a great time reading his blog, where he writes under the name of The Dalitomma (whatever that is):

    In the hustle and bustle of Success and its many distractions, it is easy to forget our original state. It seems that the full time job of the IM is to be distracting us from realizing what we want most. The IM’s thoughts swing wildly from tree to tree like a monkey, drunk with emotions and opinions, the Entrepreneur becomes deluded by his/her shadow and forgets his/her true nature of flow; this is what I call the “Supreme-Entrepreneur-Syndrome”. When the soul of the Entrepreneur separates him/herself (seemingly so) from the flow of Success and tries to become an island to him/herself.


    Is it Narcissism to think we are separate of Success…to think we can “beat” what our essence really is. The Entrepreneur falls in love with his/her IM and all its cunning ways. The IM creates theme parks with un-ending playgrounds that serve as a lifelong distraction to the Entrepreneur. Playing on the playground of our own mind, we become deceived, yes?

    Ummm, well, we wouldn’t know, really. Reading the info tab on McMurrain’s Facebook page, it appears that McMurrain has become a sort of an indigenous Buddhist:

    I have had cancer and I have been to prison…survived both…I have seen the desert that Jesus, Krishna, Mohammad and Buddha speaks of. It is a very lonely place, a place that you get to know your Self very well. The Bhagavad Gita (The Song of Love) describes a beautiful story of battle that all people face before they cross the proverbial bridge. If you are not aware of the battle that I speak of, you don’t really know. I am fortunate in that I was able to see the depths of hell at such a young age. (…)


    During my sixty three month journey through the desert I was befriended by a Lakota Chief who made me a medicine man and honored me with a Lakota name; ‘Man Without Shadow’. There is a special place in my heart reserved for Yellow Knife, The White Buffalo Woman, Black Elk, the Lakota Sweat Lodge, the four directions, Father Sky, Mother Earth and the Story of the Sacred Pipe (Chanupa Wakan). Aho Mitakue Oyasin
    With that said, allow me to summarize my life; I have been way down, then way, way up, then way, way, way down and now I AM.

    It goes on like this for several paragraphs. But click the “wall” tab and the old McMurrain is back:

    Do you want to earn $80,000 a month? Check out this video and Enroll in the hottest social netowrking community in the world – Video explains how: www.joinaachoo.com


    So all these hellish experiences of going through the desert and having to deal with Yellow Knife and the White Buffalo Woman and Buddha only served to make him a better promoter of cheesy MLM schemes? We were, frankly, disappointed. It’s not like McMurrain to piggyback on someone else’s ploys. What happened to him in jail, we wondered? Did he lose his touch? Where was the self-proclaimed guru who once told his victims that “God had put it upon him to walk a straighter line” – a line directly from their wallets to his bank account?

    Ah, but then Eric Jackson proved how wrong we were, and reported that Tom McMurrain has now acquired the infamous EscapeArtist website from that wackjob Roger Gallo (with what money?) and is offering to sell you a country of your own! We steered our browser towards McMurrain’s latest purchase and, indeed, there it was, authored under his latest pen name “Tom Ocean”:

    Buy Your Own Country for only US$150,000. Escapeartist Can Sell It to You


    Now you can be a Power Broker and influence people around the world by becoming the Managing Director of your own media empire!
    Become your country’s “GO TO” person and enjoy life as a Media Bureau Chief. Wine and dine with those in the power structure of your country to attract foreign direct investment to shape the image and future of your country.
    In 2010, you can own your own country and become a Media Bureau Partner with the most recognized name in International living: Escapeartist.



    Roger Gallo

    Now that’s more like it! When we were finally able to stop laughing, we continued reading to find out what this offer was really all about.

    As it turns out, for a small fee of just $150,000, you will be allowed to run your own version of the EscapeArtist website in another country. On top of that, you only have to give 50% of the income such a website generates to McMurrain.

    It is basically a franchise offer, with the special feature being that there is nothing to franchise.

    Maybe McMurrain doesn’t know this since he was in the desert with his new Indian friends, but websites can be visited from anywhere in the world. So people looking for EscapeArtist will just go to the original and typically not some clone that will inevitably rank lower in the search engines. But that is of course not what McMurrain is trying to have his future victims believe:

    With Escapeartist as your partner, you can live a life without boundaries.


    Are you ready to own a country and be the voice of your country, on the global stage? If so, Escapeartist has a clearly defined formula for success though our exciting new Escapeartist Media Bureau Partnerships.
    For over 14 years, Escapeartist has been the undisputed leader and authority for individuals interested in relocating, traveling, investing, working and retiring overseas. Without question, we put the word International in International Living.
    The forward thinking commentaries of Senior Editor and Founder, Roger Gallo have inspired the “Escapeartist Dreams™” of tens of millions of people around the world to ‘jump over many ponds™.’ Now you can become the ‘Roger Gallo™’ of your own country.

    We have to admit: We missed this classic bullshit McMurrain prose. Roger Gallo – just so you know – was such a forward thinker that he called McMurrain’s noni and teak scam “the best retirement investment I’ve seen in twenty years!” That was of course before the whole thing spectacularly collapsed, McMurrain went to jail and everybody lost his money – except for Roger Gallo who had at least been forward thinking enough to cash in his massive sales commissions just in time.

    Are franchises really that expensive, we wondered? We did a quick search, and guess what? If you’re looking for a real McFranchise instead of the McNoni version: A McDonalds franchise – a real business instead of some wacky McMurrain scheme – costs only $45,000. And if you’re attracted by the “underground” vibe of scam sites like EscapeArtist; why not consider a Subway franchise for just $15,000?

    Of course those are much better deals than Tom McMurrain’s scam – they are real, for starters – but even so we can’t wait to see how our favorite noni hustler runs this one into the ground (he always does). Meanwhile, anyone interested in becoming an international media bureau partner for Bananama Republic and living the high life with movers and shakers and influence peddlers all over the world? Now you can!

    We love going viral.



    Bananama Republic
    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing

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    makes ya wonder how he missed the banners broker boat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by watsco View Post
    Tell me exactly what past? Who and what did he do? What is your source to confirm the story about it? Are there any convictions?Or is this just more internet rumor based stuff?
    Tom McMurrain criminal indictment link
    http://http://www.jerryhallforcongre...rainindict.pdf


    THOMAS E. MCMURRAIN, 37, formerly of Atlanta, Georgia, pleaded guilty today to four counts of a federal indictment on charges of mail fraud and wire fraud. ...
    Between 1997 and the end of October 2000, MCMURRAIN obtained over $9,000,000 from 80 investors. In the end, the vast majority of the investors received only monthly interest payments which totaled $1,600,000 over 1997-2000. MCMURRAIN only paid back about $200,000 in principal. The remaining investors never received their principal back.
    MCMURRAIN never disclosed to investors that his pay day loan operations were running at a loss. Nor did he disclose that he was using their monies to invest in any other non-pay day loan operations, including loans totaling $700,000 to other MCMURRAIN's companies, as well as uncollateralized loans to friends and acquaintances without collateral. Additionally, MCMURRAIN did not disclose to lenders that he spent and lost $600,000 of their monies on personal day trading and expended another $700,000 on personal life style purchases.





    Furthermore, when the scheme unraveled, he ran off the Panama, and had to be extradited. Here's his entry on FraudDigest
    On October 12, 2005, Thomas E. McMurrain was sentenced in federal district court in Atlanta, Georgia, to 87 months in prison and ordered to pay restitution of $7,500,000. McMurrain was convicted of mail fraud and wire fraud related to a loan fraud scheme.*McMURRAIN pleaded guilty to the charges on May 12, 2005.*
    Assuming he started serving the sentence in 2005, and serve half of 87 months for good behavior and early release, half of 87 is still 43 months, or over 3 and a half years... That would make his release in... 2009 or so.

    So he immediately joined TVI Express, a very obvious pyramid scheme 8-ball scam...

    Guess a leopard really can't change its spots.

    http://http://kschang.blogspot.com/2011/06/who-heck-is-tom-mcmurrain-and-why-was.html
    Last edited by Char; 03-15-2014 at 03:08 PM.

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    During the pitch, you will be told that Flexkom has won the award for "Most Innovative Product for 2013" in Europe.

    You're probably thinking wow, that's an impressive award.

    In case you didn't know, this was awarded by an MLM magazine, The Obtainer.
    They gave another award for top networker to a Mona vie fellow.

    Just sayin.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Char View Post

    Prestigous European magazine???? How about MLM magazine?
    How about "MLM magazine that features an advert from FlexKom on the front page of its' website"

    Not really what you could call "impartial" are they ??



    Obtainer-online.com

    What a dirty, grubby little industry.
    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing

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    What is with Flexkom leaders? It appears that they would not even pass a background check to work the cash register at the merchants they are purporting to be helping? Could this have been done with any less thought in mind, perhaps Bernie Madoff and Scott Rothstein could head up corporate compliance.
    "It's virtually impossible to violate rules ... but it's impossible for a violation to go undetected, certainly not for a considerable period of time." Bernie Madoff
    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Scam-...98399986981403

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    At minute 2:53, Karl mentioned "they opened up Phase 3 in Austria." This recording was made sometime in September 2013. Let's talk about the RESULTS of the Flexkom business in Austria since then.
    A few questions:
    1. How many Local Merchants signed up for the service?
    2. How many Local Customers signed up for the loyalty program?
    3. What are the sales to date from actual "customer" shopping?

    How much does anyone want to bet our "Flexkom USA Promoters" don't have the answers?

    Watsco - it might be smart to see how this Roll Out was handled. The Flexkom Management Team says Turkey was a learning experience (at a reported cost of millions of dollars by investors/brand partners). So, how did the launch of Phase 3 in Austria turn out?

    Is the company still offering A MILLION DOLLAR BONUS for the person who can sell the most $2,200 DEALS in the USA and reach a certain rank? Is this rank based on any Customer Sales or is it ONLY based on SELLING THE DEAL, the $2,200 up front Investment?

    Karl says at minute 4:28, "When you SPONSOR your first person, you normally make 5%, which is $100. (time) The company is going to give you a $200
    bonus when you bring in your second person." When you bring in your third person, you are going to make another $100 and the company is going to
    give you an additional $600 BONUS"

    THIS IS A BASIC PYRAMID STRUCTURE!!!

    Notice Karl does not talk about SALES. He is ONLY talking about RECRUITING - he uses the words "when you get" At minute 9:40 he says, "sponsor 3, who get 3 each, who get 3 each (3 by 3 matrix) and if you do in your 2nd 30 day period, we will pay you a $2000 bonus."

    Again, no mention of SALES - he ONLY talks SPONSORING, or just GET (more $2,200 investors)

    I hear stories about Flexkom Promoters (net winners) who have already been PAID $100,000 Plus from JUST SPONSORING OTHERS!

    This information needs to be reported to the authorities NOW as it appears Top Scammers are now flocking to Flexkom to get their SHARE
    of the EASY MONEY.

    Karl says at 12:09 - "Million Dollar Cash Bonus if you get to Presidential Team by end of December"
    Karl says at 13:00 - "This is not a start up company. We're already proven that the model works" Really? Is it now March 16 and Flexkom
    has YET to prove their MODEL anywhere in the world. All they have PROVEN is their ability to reward MLMers who pay upfront fees ($2,200 in USA) for the RIGHT
    to get PAID for SPONSORING others who pay upfront fees.

    Case Law

    Koscot works as follows: To join Koscot, you pay $2000 to become a supervisor (or higher levels), and you buy $5400 worth of cosmetics. And you make money ($700) by encouraging others to buy in (at Supervisor, for $2000) just like they did. Essentially, Ksocot "supervisor" bought two things: 1) "the right to sell a product", 2) "the right to receive, in return for recruiting other participants into the program, rewards which are unrelated to sale of the product to ultimate users. (emphasis added)"

    Koscot lost the lawsuit, and the definition FTC created for pyramid scheme became known as the "Koscot Test" (for pyramid schemes). It can be roughly summarized as follows:

    The participant makes a payment of money to the company; (Edit: $2,200 in the case of Flexkom)
    In exchange, the participant receives the right to sell a product (or service); (Edit: As Karl explains in the video)
    In exchange, the participant receives compensation for recruiting others into the program; (Edit: Recruiting/Sponsoring commissions & bonuses - $100 to $1,000,000
    The compensation is unrelated to the sale of products (or services) to the ultimate user. (Edit: Karl is clear about this in the video)
    To be judged a pyramid scheme, the scheme must have all four elements.

    Source: How Pyramid Schemes and Ponzi Schemes are Prosecuted in the US: Do You Know Koscot Test and Howey Test?

    So, Watsco.......Any Questions?

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    Explained in text from a website pimping this:

    Compensation & Founding Team Bonus Structure

    Yes, you can make back your Money in the first 30 days or sooner. There are five distinct ways that FlexReps are compensated for their time, talents and dedication. Team Building Bonus Document - Click Here

    Picture 5.jpg


    Global Team Member (GTM)
    $200 Sign membership fee (Plus tax)
    $2,000 Global Team Member Pack

    5% of $2000 = $100 (gives you the commission referenced)
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    Nice find Char. "I especially like the last line: Plus you go into a pool of folks that split 10% of the company stock!"

    So, the Promoters can EARN STOCK in the company for simply RECRUITING others. I wonder if the SEC is aware of this aspect
    of the Flexkom compensation plan?

    Bring Flexkom enough Investors and get paid in Company Stock.

    So telling that there is no mention of Customers or Sales on this page whatsoever.

    Avoid any program that focuses more on recruitment of new people rather than the sale of a product or service to an end-user consumer. If the opportunity for income is primarily derived by recruiting more participants or salespersons rather than by selling a product, the plan probably is illegal. Several courts interpret greater pressure on members to sponsor new recruits than to market company merchandise as evidence of an illegal pyramid.

    Source: https://www.michigan.gov/ag/0,4534,7...8400--,00.html

    What am I missing here?

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    I suspect they are trying to cover themselves by pre-loading $2 on 1000 apps giving the illusion of $2000 worth of product. Of course this is in virtual flexmoney which is useless without a place to spend it.

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    Char - maybe so. But, Koscot had cosmetics and we now know that was ruled to be an illegal program. Plus, the $2 on 1000 apps is a bit misleading as the end user must purchase $100 through the Flexkom System before they can actually get access to the $2. I believe this point has been made previously on this board.
    Quote Originally Posted by Char View Post
    I suspect they are trying to cover themselves by pre-loading $2 on 1000 apps giving the illusion of $2000 worth of product. Of course this is in virtual flexmoney which is useless without a place to spend it.
    At least the promoters are making it easy for the regulators by putting ALL OF THE PYRAMID EVIDENCE online for ALL TO SEE with webinars, google handouts and youtube videos. In their own words, Flexkom Promoters are getting paid to sponsor others, which is illegal in most states.

    It will be easy for the regulators to find out who is responsible if they decide the pursue regulatory action. If not, there will just be a lot of reputations ruined and money lost by the participants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Char View Post
    I suspect they are trying to cover themselves by pre-loading $2 on 1000 apps giving the illusion of $2000 worth of product. Of course this is in virtual flexmoney which is useless without a place to spend it.
    These 2 bucks only get activated when someone has saved 200 flexmoneys. So it is not worth anything really.


    In other news;

    The Country Manager of the Netherlands announced last week that as of now, the Netherlands is the first country worldwide to have the cash loop with the POS4S working. The Netherlands now has 1 store that has a fully operational Flexkom system in it. Allthough any evidence of this one store is missing, that would mean that all the youtube video's on the stores in Leipzig, Turkey, USA, Austria are fake. The systems showed in these video's are not really working. They are just demos, not an operational system. Most of us already knew this, but now it's confirmed by the Country Manager of Flexkom in the Netherlands.

    You can read his letter here. It is in Dutch so you'd need to use Google Translate:
    http://wouterhol.nl/het-piramidespel.../#comment-5791
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    I certainly hope they're not trying to ride the coattails of the vastly popular in Europe KTM motorcycle name.

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    Looks like KTM are stepping up to the next level of scamming scamminess. The infamous "we will place the terminals for you", "all you have to do is invest and collect", that always ends with a garage full of gumball machines and a light wallet. Oh, I know what you are thinking, but this is Flexkom, they have a great track record of keepin promises. Surely it is just a coincidence that they are taking this route to dump product, er I mean find new BMs.


    The following are some common tactics fraudulent promoters might use: Don't Get Short Changed: Be Aware of Vending Machine Scams - BBB News Center

    Inflated profit projections, including elaborate charts that may have no basis in fact.
    Locator services, in which the company claims to employ an expert locator to find prime locations for its machines. The service usually ends once any establishment willing to have a machine on its premises is found, regardless of how many potential customers that area attracts.
    Training programs that are generally superficial or non-existent. And it should be noted that it is impossible to learn to be a successful vending operator in one or two weeks from an out-of-town salesperson.
    "Good deals" on machines, which may turn out to be machines sold for two to three times their actual value. Potential investors should be wary of buying any machine that they cannot look at in person since catalog pictures and descriptions may not tell the whole story.
    Repurchase plans, in which vending promoters offer to buy back inventory from the investor. Unfortunately, the promoter is usually long gone by the time an investor tries to exercise this option.
    Guarantees offered by sales agents often are worthless because the agent cannot be located and the manufacturer will not honor them

    ====================================

    Candy Vending Machine Scam Puts Cavities In Investors' Pockets - Forbes
    Consequently, prosecutors charge that the victimized investors’ machines were merely placed in the most expedient manner, often in businesses that had not consented to housing the machines and quickly defmanded their removal.
    As a result of the alleged scam, investors’ vending machines generated little business and Vendstar’s customers lost nearly all if not all of their investments. The typical customer paid about $10,000 for the business opportunity.

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    P.S.

    I believe "those" GTMs I refer to are actually victims not schmoes - The believers who haven't been scammed before by a recruiting, MLM, ponzi type program.

    It's your upline, top leaders, and big recruiters who think of you as a "schmoe" and sucker behind your back. To your face, you're a smart, entrepreneur who sees the vision and their glad to have you aboard.

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    re: FlexKom aka Flexcom aka Weeconomy - legitimate MLM or scam ??

    ^^^they're not their

    Who is Deborah Brolley?

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    August 2013 – Present (8 months) Germany, with Las Vegas Office for American Market

    I am a corporate Headhunter for Flexkom International training Part time and full time Brand Managers, M-Commerce Marketing. The mobile app enables small to medium-sized businesses to attract and retain customers, while adding an additional stream of income, through a loyalty program that links businesses together creating a much larger merchant network. I have always had a passion to empower other business owners grow and thrive. They are hiring successful leaders to open in their market place. email me if you know someone looking to empower the small and medium business owners in their area.


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    Debbie Brolley A top earner in Mary Kay Cosmetics and Send Out Cards, Deborah is now approaching the 5-Star Ambassador Level at Visalus Science.
    All about Mary Kay Pink Truth » My Mary Kay Story and the Start of Pink Truth
    Also an expose from Harpers Bazaar Magazine Pink Truth » Harper’s Magazine: Mary Kay’s Pink Pyramid Scheme

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    Do you see the pattern I'm trying to establish? Recruiting is once again shown to be the business and not m-commerce, makeup, or weight loss drinks. Don't be a fool and think that earning a percentage on the discount of loyalty cards is going to make you a significant amount of money.

    Fyi, Pink Truth is a site worth visiting since Mary Kay is often referenced as the poster child for ethical MLM. These are real people telling their stories and they aren't good.

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    I wonder where watsco and FlexKomGAUSA went? Wait, I know. They had so many businesses and people wanting to join this fantastic opportunity they are swamped filling orders and signing people up.
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    re: FlexKom aka Flexcom aka Weeconomy - legitimate MLM or scam ??

    Quote Originally Posted by EagleOne View Post
    I wonder where watsco and FlexKomGAUSA went? Wait, I know. They had so many businesses and people wanting to join this fantastic opportunity they are swamped filling orders and signing people up.
    Actually I was thinking Watsco may have seen the light given the amount of evidence presented here that flexkom is a scam. I was even hoping he might come back and give a tiny thank you for saving him from further loss and humiliation among friends and family. We, of course, would welcome him as most of us have been scammed before WHICH IS WHY WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.


    Speaking of humiliation, I have to post this video for posterity. Yes, it's not exactly about Flexkom, but it is Lyoness, ANOTHER LOYALTY CARD REWARD SYSTEM so all related. You will also see how flexkom IS NOT A NOVEL IDEA that's going to overtake the world. Oh yeah, don't forget about Beepxtra and KisKapital too. Eiyiyi

    Enjoy!!




    Mods, how about moving the Lyoness thread to online opportunities so they can run side by side and show the world Flexkom is nothing new.

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