Thread: FlexKom aka Flexcom aka Weeconomy - legitimate MLM or scam ??

Originally Posted by watsco

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Could you imagine that the FlexMoney that goes into an account and "turns green" has been funded by the shop owner, who gave it out, with local currency by transferring it to FlexKom's bank account? Can you imagine that such a transfer is possible to do and that FlexKom can then allow the currency to be spent in the system secured by those funds? Is it possible to build such software and do such a transaction even if it wasn't FlexKom doing it Is it possible?

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Are you fantasizing how it will possibly work or are you trying to say it is the way it works already ? :)
If later, please care to provide FinCEN MSB registration number and MSB registration in each state where those transaction are done.

Originally Posted by watsco

I do think none of the members that are posting are business owners.
How have I insulted your intelligence?

And you are wrong. Shocking, I know. I am a business owner. You and flexkom are nobodies. Why should I pay you for me to give a customer a discount that I can already do myself? YOU have to convince me why. YOU are trying to get money out of my wallet for what YOU think I should buy so YOU can make a commission. YOU need to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt why I should buy from you. YOU HAVE FAILED THUS FAR. You are insulting my intelligence by throwing around this flex money bullshit. Like I said, businesses can't pay their bills with that crap.

Originally Posted by watsco

What do you mean pay a nobody to do what they can do? What is it we do they can do already?

Are you really this stupid? I can have coupons put in valupak mailers. I can put ads in papers offering discounts. I can put ads in papers offering discount coupons.

Originally Posted by watsco

Do you know how the system works? Why do you think shop owners can't convert FlexMoney to currency they can pay bills with?

Do you know how the real world works?

Originally Posted by watsco

Could you imagine that the FlexMoney that goes into an account and "turns green" has been funded by the shop owner, who gave it out, with local currency by transferring it to FlexKom's bank account? Can you imagine that such a transfer is possible to do and that FlexKom can then allow the currency to be spent in the system secured by those funds? Is it possible to build such software and do such a transaction even if it wasn't FlexKom doing it Is it possible?

is it possible none of the members here understand how the system works at all?

No, not at all. Again, stop insulting our intelligence. It is YOU that has no idea how anything really works.

Originally Posted by watsco

I wont have an issue spending the FlexMoney in any of our locations. They want FlexMoney.

The mayor issue is not wether or not the storekeeper wants Flexmoney. The issue is that the Flexkom system is still not operational. It is technical impossible to pay with FM.

The other issue you'll come to face is that storekeepers will insist that you pay with dollars, as that saves both you and him money.

Originally Posted by freighttrain

The mayor issue is not wether or not the storekeeper wants Flexmoney. The issue is that the Flexkom system is still not operational. It is technical impossible to pay with FM.

The other issue you'll come to face is that storekeepers will insist that you pay with dollars, as that saves both you and him money.

I guess you would like people to think you know what you are talking about? Isin't it kind of absurd to think that the whole time FlexKom has been evolving the system and not allow the merchants to except FlexMoney or the customer to pay with FlexMoney? If people think my posts are hard to believe Don't you think you take the price on that?

You are stating it's impossible to pay with FlexMoney? I wonder where this happens? The impossible part? Does it happen when the customer tries to scan the QR code after they press "pay with FlexMoney"? Or does it happen before that, when they attempt to pay with FlexMoney and the shop keeper says no I don't take FlexMoney but I can give you FlexMoney? When is it impossible? Is it impossible because the location you first didn't think existed was there and then you tried to pay with FlexMoney and they said you couldn't? I am not sure where this impossibility actually occurs. I am lost trying to think what you actually have decided is impossible. And then I wonder how you have decided that it is actually impossible? Please can you elaborate so I can understand how you have reached that conclusion?

The other issue, How does it save me money if I have FlexMoney on my app/in my account to pay with dollars? Do you not think that the store keeper will like the commissions he is getting when his customers use the system? Or is that part impossible as well?

Should people think of your opinions as fact?

Originally Posted by watsco

You are stating it's impossible to pay with FlexMoney? I wonder where this happens? The impossible part? Does it happen when the customer tries to scan the QR code after they press "pay with FlexMoney"? Or does it happen before that, when they attempt to pay with FlexMoney and the shop keeper says no I don't take FlexMoney but I can give you FlexMoney? When is it impossible? Is it impossible because the location you first didn't think existed was there and then you tried to pay with FlexMoney and they said you couldn't? I am not sure where this impossibility actually occurs. I am lost trying to think what you actually have decided is impossible. And then I wonder how you have decided that it is actually impossible? Please can you elaborate so I can understand how you have reached that conclusion?

It is impossible at the part where the Flexkom terminal app, operating at the POS 4S, is unable to set up a secure connection to the main servers of Flexkom. Flexkom calls this the cash loop. It is not functional at this moment.

The other issue, How does it save me money if I have FlexMoney on my app/in my account to pay with dollars? Do you not think that the store keeper will like the commissions he is getting when his customers use the system? Or is that part impossible as well

As mentioned a couple of times before:
The store can give more discount when not telling flexkom about the transaction. 10% discount would mean 20% loss of turnover when using flexkom. When not telling flexkom, the store could give 15% discount and keep an extra 5% in it's pocket, for example.

Also, in order for the store to receive 1 dollar commission trough flexkom, another store has to pay 8.33 dollars of commission to flexkom. Dont you think that the stores make money trough commissions as the stores are the ones paying all these commissions. You claiming that a store would make money trough Flexkom their compensation plan demonstrates that you dont have a clue how the system works

Should people think of your opinions as fact?

I don't bring an opinion.

Also , not that it is a big deal, i did not expect otherwise, but your Sarah, 31 who uses her FlexCard and FlexApp to save hundreds of euros
on the page here: FlexCard - FlexKom International Holding AG

FK_SARAH.jpg

Seems to be a pretty popular gal, who goes around websites, changes her names and promoting different stores and credit cards :)
check it out: Woman With A Credit Card In A Store Stock Photo 133540019 : Shutterstock

Originally Posted by NikSam

Also , not that it is a big deal, i did not expect otherwise, but your Sarah, 31 who uses her FlexCard and FlexApp to save hundreds of euros
on the page here: FlexCard - FlexKom International Holding AG

FK_SARAH.jpg

Seems to be a pretty popular gal, who goes around websites, changes her names and promoting different stores and credit cards :)
check it out: Woman With A Credit Card In A Store Stock Photo 133540019 : Shutterstock

Ok, I have a question for you about this. Do you think Tiger Woods drives a Buick?

Originally Posted by watsco

Ok, I have a question for you about this. Do you think Tiger Woods drives a Buick?

Talk about a red herring. So let's see, FlexKom uses a photo shop picture claiming it is one of their successful reps, and it is exposed this is the case, and you want to talk about what car Tiger Woods drives or not. Seriously? By the way, he does drive a Buick, just not all the time. Next red herring argument.

Originally Posted by EagleOne

Talk about a red herring. So let's see, FlexKom uses a photo shop picture claiming it is one of their successful reps, and it is exposed this is the case, and you want to talk about what car Tiger Woods drives or not. Seriously? By the way, he does drive a Buick, just not all the time. Next red herring argument.

Why do you think there are stock photos to buy? LOl

Did you think the people in the commercials are really using those products? They find them in stores?

Really? What Kind of Car Does Tiger Woods Drive

Sometimes mean what down to the corner? Thanks Tiger now you can get back in your Porche?

Originally Posted by watsco

Why do you think there are stock photos to buy? LOl

Did you think the people in the commercials are really using those products? They find them in stores?

Really? What Kind of Car Does Tiger Woods Drive

Sometimes mean what down to the corner? Thanks Tiger now you can get back in your Porche?

Do you even read the links you provide? In your pathetic attempt to try and deflect that FlexKom is using fake photos of people who are supposed to be making a killing as a FlexKom rep, you asked do you think Tiger Woods really drives a Buick? Well, if you had bothered to read the article you would have seen this story, and I quote:

"What Kind of Car Does Tiger Woods Drive? Tiger may drive his Porsche Carrera GT and a golf cart now and then, but his car of choice is the one he is a proud sponsor of, the Buick Enclave. Currently, he drives the 2008 model year of this luxurious SUV that is priced between $43,000 and $65,000 according to Edmunds. These Buick SUVs are famous for not only their heated seat feature, but also their cooling seat feature for hot summer months."

The mere fact that you can't tell the difference as to why it is wrong for FlexKom to use stock photos in their advertising portraying successful reps to what car Tiger Woods drives shows your ignorance, gullibility, or you are nothing more than a Ponzi shill. My bet is on the latter. Good grief, the next thing you will try to claim is that is not stealing because you used a keyboard not a gun.

Originally Posted by watsco

Ok, I have a question for you about this. Do you think Tiger Woods drives a Buick?

Who cares what he drives, he can drive anything he wants and switch the next week.
But if i saw a Picture of Tiger woods saying "I am Sarah, 31 and i saved hundreds with a [...] Scam" and i can show
he is not linked to that scam in anyway or never even heard of it. I find such statements from the scam as "at least" dishonest.

But it also indicates that the scam does not have the real retail Sarahs who can endorse or do testimonials.

This is something as FlexKom tried to drag the Hooters name along before.

I'm waiting on watsco to answer my two questions: Since this is the greatest program ever, why in the world would Tom and Russell abandon ship? After all this is going to revolutionize the retail industry and here you have the chance to be in on the ground floor of this ground-breaking venture; and they just jump ship?

I asked Watsco about them as well. I also asked him if George Gasich was still actively promoting Flexkom. How about Jeannie Basso? She has the largest downline in Flexkom. Is she still promoting Flexkom.

Originally Posted by EagleOne

I'm waiting on watsco to answer my two questions: Since this is the greatest program ever, why in the world would Tom and Russell abandon ship? After all this is going to revolutionize the retail industry and here you have the chance to be in on the ground floor of this ground-breaking venture; and they just jump ship?

Could it be because they don't think it's the best program ever? Do you think it makes a difference?

Ok I could be wrong, but I think watsco truly believes. These network marketing scammers get so good at what they do and say that people like watsco refuse to listen to anyone else and become incredibly brainwashed.

The sad part is, all we have to really do is watch and wait because sure as the sky is blue, Flexkom isn't going to happen as described and all those dreamers WILL LOSE.

Watsco, in any Ponzi there is some reward to keep people hanging around.

As Eagle pointed out, and this goes for all MLM/NWM, if it's so great why leave?? Why not retire on residual if its going to change the world? Stop and think about that and how much sense Eagle's question makes.

Originally Posted by Char

Ok I could be wrong, but I think watsco truly believes. These network marketing scammers get so good at what they do and say that people like watsco refuse to listen to anyone else and become incredibly brainwashed.

Oh he knows it is a scam, he just wants to look as a hero defending his money flow.

It was clear from beginning, and since he keeps bringing some details which suppose to make people belive it is not, he just
digs a bigger hole.

Everything around Flexkom is full of lies, we have career criminals behind the scheme, obvious pyramid with no retail sales,
POS4 systems which i pointed out are not legal to use in US , and when I demanded FCC ID, they put a sticker on it with a small problem , hmmm - it was fake ID :)

If they really imported bulk of those POS4 tablets, if they really used FlexMoney on a big scale, they will be already in a court saving their ass, i can speed it up. but bummer, they have nothing of that only lies.




Let just watsco bring more points he thinks proves legitamacy of this scam, we will have more points to backfire.

Originally Posted by Char

Ok I could be wrong, but I think watsco truly believes. These network marketing scammers get so good at what they do and say that people like watsco refuse to listen to anyone else and become incredibly brainwashed.

The sad part is, all we have to really do is watch and wait because sure as the sky is blue, Flexkom isn't going to happen as described and all those dreamers WILL LOSE.

Watsco, in any Ponzi there is some reward to keep people hanging around.

As Eagle pointed out, and this goes for all MLM/NWM, if it's so great why leave?? Why not retire on residual if its going to change the world? Stop and think about that and how much sense Eagle's question makes.

In a city where there is a lot of smog is the skye blue? When it rains is the skye blue? Is my post above with 80 locations me being brain washed? Are there not network marketers that make millions?

Let me ask you? If Apple was so great why did Ronald Wayne leave? Do you think he has regrets? Russell got tired of waiting the next day we went into 3rd phase. Is that bad timing?

What happens when the regulators claw back the profits from net winners of an illegal pyramid scheme and they have already spent the money and are broke? Does anyone know?

Watsco, I see that you ignore my postings or at least that you do not reply to them. Can I therefore conclude that you do not have an appropriate response and/or can't argue that I am wrong?

This guy is involved in every get rich quick scheme known to man.
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Some in english, some not.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Flexk...53709781338460

Bunch on the con. Some in English.
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Watsco, there is no point for you to throw in the things FlexKom already posted publicly, anyone can see those.

Let's talk about your personal experiences.

How much money in total you threw into all FlexCom opportunity, (including events you attended )?
How much money you made so far ?
How many people you recruited ?

Since you are a person, and not the "company", it will be much worth to talk about your personal experience, marketing and pimping aside. And please be honest.
It will also show everyone where you stand, if you are successful with it or just a guy who tries to be succeseful.

I didn't see this posted before, but then I didn't really look all that hard. Is in Italian.

Flexkom Truffa.JPG

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Flexk...315520?fref=ts

Ive found this email on another Flexkom blog

FlexKom Breaking News FlexKom 2.0

Learn directly from the founder and president Mr. Cengiz Ehliz & Vice President Sales expansion Mr. Michael Scheibe, the latest news about FlexKom 2.0.
Here you will get all the information that will be launched worldwide uniformly from the 1st of June 2014.
You can expect top news that will boost your business-building enormously!
Pass this important date quickly on to all your partners.

On: Thursday, 29 th of May 2014
To: Start 21:00 Clock CET (Central European Time)
Language: German & English

From 20:45 clock, you can start any time in the webinar room.
Webinar space is limited to 3000 people!

Link:
Conference, V3.2.9 -- RC172

We wish you a successful final sprint!
Your FlexKom Team

Could be interesting and fun to watch. I wonder what theyre telling now. Seems like theyve abandoned the phases and now started to use version numbers instead, as theyre referring to Flexkom 2.0 instead of Flexkom phase III.

Too many were typing Flexcom failure III.

Again, if this were a real business, there wouldn't be all these ridiculous 'announcements'. They would just fire off an email to the alleged 'business owners' much like all my distributors do for our businesses (I am including other businesses in my field). Or, a simple one on one phone call.

I'm not sure but I think Flexkom 2.0 is all about the new gold plan, flexgold. Is it replacing the phase 3 "roll out", "launch", or whatever they call it? It will be interesting to see where this is going. Could be more delays given the new system, don't you think? I mean look at all the issues BannersBroker version 3.0 is still having. lol