Thread: FlexKom aka Flexcom aka Weeconomy - legitimate MLM or scam ??

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July 1st 2014 Heralds The Start Of FlexGold

Flexkom as ever are being technological innovators by launching FlexGold, so the company can now offer this to their customers from the July 1st launch. So there will be the option of getting FlexGold with every purchase which is a stunning concept.



FlexGold will soon be fully integrated into the Flexkom system so that Flexkom customers will be able to look forward to the luxury of their own gold deposits.*

Flexkom have been working for the past year with an Austrian Gold Company towards the aim of creating the FlexGold product and now this has finally come to fruition. They will still pay off all the FlexMoney collected by their customers into their bank accounts, but I am sure they will all be looking forward to getting paid with gold in the near future, so they will be given the opportunity of exchanging their FlexMoney, free of charge, into FlexGold as soon as the system is fully active. Building small gold assets this way is going to be hugely beneficial to everyone that is connected with Flexkom.

Obviously the company will take market fluctuations into consideration and this will be part of the FlexGold system, and this is excellent news as customers who save these gold deposits will have even more buying power at a later point in time when the value of gold rises, as it historically does and surely always will.*

So Flexkom customers from this moment on can build gold assets without having to invest any money, a wonderful state of affairs I am sure you will agree!!

Originally Posted by Char

Flexkom as ever are being technological innovators by launching FlexGold, so the company can now offer this to their customers from the July 1st launch. So there will be the option of getting FlexGold with every purchase which is a stunning concept.

The only thing 'stunning' is that someone else is trying this scam again.

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FlexKom is running another SCAM about their children's charity.

I learned today, in an email DIRECTLY from FlexKom America, that there is NO charity registered ANYWHERE in the USA…with no tax ID number, no tax-exempt status granted by the IRS, no organizational entity.

When a customer does a transaction on a FK POS4 merchant terminal, he is presented with a screen with hearts on it, giving the customer an opportunity to donate a portion of their rebate. I am told that this screen function has been disabled here in the USA.

Gee…Imagine my surprise that this does not work in America. Here is the next obvious set of questions:

How about FlexGold? Where is the PROOF?
How about the FlexBank? Where is the PROOF?
How about the fact that the only places in the entire USA where there are merchant terminals LIVE are TN, GA and AL?
Are the state regulators prohibiting FK from doing business in any and all the other states?
Which state and Federal regulators currently have active investigations into FlexKom?

Will FlexKom America even exist in 12 months? Stay tuned.

A scam buster friend of mine heard something concerning.

Seems Flexkom is now using the EXCUSE that former affiliates who have changed companies are the ONLY ones spreading the word about this scam. While some of their information has been useful to help expose Flexkom, most folks here, myself included, have NO AFFILIATION with the so called competition (which is also a scam). Beepxtra has its own thread here and at behindmlm.com

Keep in mind that much of the information provided here happened well before Beepxtra (the competition) was launched and folks like Russell Longcore switched scam companies.

One of the earliest signs that a Ponzi is in trouble is when all the major pimps of the program are no longer around. Notice how all the major pimps have disappeared from here. Wonder if watsco has jumped to Beepxtra too?

Originally Posted by Russell

I went online today to the Alabama Secretary of State's Office of Business Services. The screen capture is below. Regarding "foreign corporations" (any corporation not domiciled in Alabama) the page states CLEARLY that "Any foreign corporation is required to obtain a certificate of authority before transacting business in the state."

When you do a business entity search at this website, there is NO CORPORATION named FlexKom or FlexKom America Inc that has been registered as a "foreign corporation" in the State of Alabama.

Hhhhmm. What kind of trouble might the FlexKom folks in the Mobile, Alabama area be in for recruiting AND enrolling merchants while representing FlexKom America?

I agree with the issue Russell is citing, we see a lot of companies not properly licensed to do business. I didn't do much work on this, and the website gives no hint of where BX is incorporated. It looks like Beepxtra has the same problem as FK with not showing up in the Alabama database. Maybe they just aren't doing business there, like Banners Broker is not operating in the US.?

Business Entity Search By Name

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Originally Posted by Scamtracker-Jaap

Such naivety in turn amazes me. How can an intelligent man be so ignorant and uninformed about the nature of the business he is promoting? And he is still only half awake, cause he does not yet extend his conclusions about Flexkom to the whole of the murky and treacherous MLM world.

I give him props for one thing, getting Flexcon to admit they owe him $890 in writing. Good luck to him actually collecting it, but that should be enough to get a judgement assuming he can find the proper jurisdiction.

Not only is holding the money illegal, what kind of broke ass pikers run this company and make management decisions? Smacks to me of any other vendor that is all to happy to cash your checks, but not so much going the other way. Would be BMs can draw their own conclusions from this alone.

Russell mentions all his work at SEO and promoting FK on the web, he has been at the top of many searches. What I am left wondering is how much money he actually made pushing this dreck? Maybe he had a big payday before they stuck him with the unpaid commission? Or is it more likely the case that he worked for next to nothing? Intuitively if he made $50 or $100K before quitting, would he be sweating $890 so hard? If he was one of the go to people in the states, where is the money? And what does that say for someone who only has marginal web skills of this opportunity?

I too am left wondering why he (and so so many others) jump right from the pan into the fire. Could he not sell his SEO skills and make $890 pretty fast? $890 is one or two weeks working full time, and generally no fighting for the cash. To think any of these deals will end any differently than recruiting scams is certainly naive. No passive residual put your feet up and cash checks income anywhere to be found no matter how good the U-tube video.

I'm pretty sure that Longcore did not make that much money with Flexkom. If he made a few thousand bucks over the last few years then he's doing well. And with BeepXtra he's not making any money at all, as their system is also not operational and he does not get paid to sign up others. The only way to get paid with BeepXtra is to sign up stores (or have people you've signed up do so) and have these stores pay commission. This is not happening at this moment.

I'm pretty sure that if you'd meet Russel on a normal day, you'd find him working as a janitor or something like that, so he can actually pay his rent.

As for his SEO skills.. he purchases his likes for youtube and facebook at Indian click farms. He ain't got any SEO skills. Any good ranking video's or pages of him (if any) are pure luck.

Originally Posted by freighttrain

And with BeepXtra he's not making any money at all, as their system is also not operational and he does not get paid to sign up others. The only way to get paid with BeepXtra is to sign up stores (or have people you've signed up do so) and have these stores pay commission. This is not happening at this moment.

Freighttrain I don't want to offend you but, your quote applies only to the suckers who think that these "individual companies" will make them money collecting residual income from the product that is being pimped. The "network marketers" like Longcore build teams and will jump from scam to scam - That is their business, not Flexkom or Beepxtra. No way he wasn't promised something for bringing over his team if it's big enough. Exactly what, I have no idea.

Originally Posted by Char

The "network marketers" like Longcore build teams and will jump from scam to scam - That is their business, not Flexkom or Beepxtra. No way he wasn't promised something for bringing over his team if it's big enough. Exactly what, I have no idea.

He's promised a lifetime income from the shops that he or his team signs up. Or at least, that what he believes.

Flexkom and BeepXtra are almost identical in every way.*

Only Flexkom costs money but offeres direct cash incentives when you sign up someone else. BeepXtra is free but does not offer cash incentives when you sign up someone else.

They both offer kindergarten math examples of how rich you'll gonna be, like: 5 people times 10 shops times 2000 customers times 0,20 dollar a month = 20.000 dollar a month passive income.
I think that Russell, much like other Flexkom pimps, honestly believe that this is how it's gonna work in the future.

* BeepXtra recently got exposed offering shares of the company to believers. So that's actually the way that BeepXtra scammers like Lyndon Farrington are scooping up money.

Originally Posted by freighttrain

He's promised a lifetime income from the shops that he or his team signs up. Or at least, that what he believes.

If he believes that, then he is one of the dumbest "network marketers" out there - Or is he just another ignorant affiliate? In the last video, he describes himself as a NM.

A "network marketer" can be an affiliate, but an affiliate isn't always a network marketer - The scammer and the scamee.

Beepxtra is not free.

Maybe it's just a language thing as English is not my native language. But over here, people who call themselves network marketeers are quite dumb fucks, to be honest. I really cant describe it in any other way. It are people who've failed in their normal careers or housewives who's kids have left home and are now selling herbalife, amway or whatever MLM junk. Or promoting Flexkom or BeepXtra, for that matter.

I can't get a good translation for affiliate.

As for our subject, Russell Longcore, he might not be as ignorant as most network marketeers, but he's still a dumb **** for pushing scams like Flexkom and BeepXtra.

no....you're pretty spot on. lol

Apologies again as I don't mean to offend you freighttrain as I try to make my point. Perhaps it is a language issue. What I'm trying to say is that there are two types of network marketers.

1) The ones who believe that Herbalife will allow them to retire on residual etc. (Regular affiliates)
2) The ones who know it's all a scam but still promote it, build teams of the No. 1 above, then jump to the newest scam, then jump again. (Serial, professional network marketers)

The No. 2s who have a big enough team of believers and lower level scammers are surely compensated by the founder of the scam to bring over a team and are likely placed in a position unlike the regular folks who think its all about the spiel they are sold by the pro networker who pretends to believe in the product.

No need to apologize for having an argument with me. Thats what this forum is all about, right? :)

I see what you mean with the diffrent types of network marketers. I think that both are more or less the same. They are both ignorant to a certain level in my book. Among them, there are plenty of people who have bad intentions and might or might not know that they're promoting a scam, but do not care as long as they're getting paid.

I also think that there's a third, even worse type of network marketer. That's the one that invents the scam in the first place, like Cengiz Ehliz, Asker Sakinmaz and all other directors of Flexkom, or like Lyndon Farrington of BeepXtra.

Originally Posted by freighttrain

Maybe it's just a language thing as English is not my native language. But over here, people who call themselves network marketeers are quite dumb fucks, to be honest.

This is a truth in any language.

When approached by people in MLM I feel like a piece of meat. They never seem to be able to have a simple business discussion without prospecting, usually for the opportunity, once in a blue moon for the product. A contrived conversation both about income and the alleged lifestyle they hope one day to be living.

Online I don't get the heaving recruiting feel, other than a box full of spam. But, it is equally difficult to have a real business conversation. Everyone who has come to this thread representing FK has some variation of the same script. Even after being presented with the problems in Turkey, the fake awards, the prior history of the owners, and the failed roll-outs worldwide we get nothing but happy talk of the future. Never minding all the legal concerns of promoting what is a not so cleverly designed pyramid scheme and/or unregistered security.

In an effort to get rich quick affiliates seem to be willing to hold all the risk with minimal chance of reward. If they wipe the stars from their eyes they might see this is a piss poor trade. Russell highlights the problem with not being allowed to sell his distributorship, all his marketing efforts, and end of day not being paid. Never minding the meetings, burning gas, and shoe leather trying to place terminals all on his dime. All this servitude with ZERO risk to FK.

Sooner or later most people wake up and quit MLM. I guess others wake up and realize there is good money to be had recruiting and don't care about letting others learn the hard way.

Originally Posted by ribshaw

Russell highlights the problem with not being allowed to sell his distributorship, all his marketing efforts, and end of day not being paid.

Longcore is upset because he can't transfer a worthless license to Jason Marks? Worthless because he knows and says its a scam, right? Makes no sense unless there is something else going on. Have beepers thought to question this? And what about Lydon Farrington's history? And the "shares" being offered?

What is the missing $860 commission check for? Flexkom didn't even have stores in that time frame? Was it for recruiting without a product? Selling the opportunity?

I had to get some printer ink, and went back into that shop again. They a FlexKom terminal sitting there, next to the till.
I enquired about the FlexKom leaflets. I was told:
- You sign up and start collecting reward points.
- You don't need a smartphone.
- Take the leaflets and sign up at home.

The attached images are scanned in. The card that you can see is a real card, ie, plastic, not paper.
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Where did you go for ink? Stores like Staples and Office Depot already have their own cards to give customer discounts.

It's a small local shop, not a franchise or chain. I don't want to identify them publicly to The Internet, for obvious reasons, and they are that small that if you Googled their shop name, you'd find them 1st hit.

"ISSUES"!!!!! Just like Banners Broker?? Right on schedule I'd say.


Flexkom Updates | Flexkom

So please watch this space!! ——————————————————————————————————————————–

NEWSLETTER
From UK Country Manager Ian Driscoll

Hi Everyone,
I deeply regret the communication issues we have had with Flexkom but we now have the ability to send out to all UK Flexkom Partners up to date information on where we are, and convey latest UK news etc. Lesley and I were in Munich on the 15th 16th July with some of the UK team to find out all about the Business Center Manager and Technical trainer ( BCM & BMTT ) That is the support system that is being rolled out in all Flexkom countries and that will be great !!
Flexkom have now acquired the Business and Domain name of Flexcom.com note with a C not a K. It will not effect anything as redirects and forwards will be put in place for this. For example if you have business cards printed a redirect will take place so you can still use any materials you have. Please wait till this is announced before you use FlexKom International Holding AG.

FLEXKOM 2.0

So we move into Flexkom 2.0 as you can see the Pioneering stages are now over. If you joined Flexkom prior to the 31st March 2014 you have the Pioneering Crown in your back office and will keep the 20% as a GTM and the 20% + 10% as a GTM VIP So GTM is similar now as a K10 and GTM VIP is similar as GT VIP and we keep these percentages for life. So check out the K1 K3 K5 K10 & K20 packages for new Team Members.
OUR APP
You will notice that there have been several App updates that have upset things and knocked fields around. However there will not be the requirement to do this as much so updates will not be as frequent. You can now see the Radar Function on the App and it can guide you to the Kobi’s


OUR POS
Again same as the App many upgrades have gone out recently and there will not be the requirement for that many in the future. Have you seen the World Cup offer ??? Currently you can get a POS for just €299 and check out the Flexkom shop also. You should when you receive a POS from Flexcom do a check on it, boot it up check for updates etc. If it has any software issues contact myself and we can rectify that. If it has a hardware fault i.e. wont boot up or charge etc again please contact me. Flexcom have an exchange policy so that they will deliver a replacement to your door and you can hand the faulty unit to the delivery driver as an exchange with no cost to you
FLEXMONEY
Currently Flexkom are working through International regulations. that is one of the issues. However an issue that Flexkom were not aware of has been fixed. So the customer goes to the Kobi he gets his cashback on his Mobile the Kobi owner goes into his back office confirms the transaction, creates an invoice follows the link and pays. The Flexmoney. The Flexmoney then turns green and for now if the customer wishes they can retrieve their money into their Bank account. Over €50 it is free to transfer. If under it will cost the customer €5.00 for the transfer from their Flexmoney. The Partner needs to advise the Kobi how to make the payment.

FLEXBANK
Yes Flexkom are to be a Bank as part of requirement for our Global system. That gives us massive credibility. The Bank will be in Munich and the good news is that anyone can have a Bank Account with them. So this is moving along.

PAYONEER DEBIT CARD
In your back office now you can apply for the Flexkom Payoneer Debit card as an option to recieve funds from Flexkom. Customers Kobi’s and us Partners can all have this.

FLEXGOLD
Again the brilliant Flexgold that everyone can choose to be paid with. This is a master stroke by Flexkom for all of us. Again this is progressing and we will have notifications on that soon.

FLEXMOBILE
Progress with the Flexkom Smart phone are going well and Beta testing will commence ready for the Major launch in January 2015 ( Its just around the corner after Christmas. )

FLEXATION
Again in Early January 2015 we will be having the celebration of our achievment somewhere in Europe more details will be given on that soon. It will be a monumental meeting and well worth attending.

KOBI’S
We now have a very diverse array of shops in our Flexkom Groups, so all you need to do is open the App and show to a Shopkeeper and as long as they have more than 2 brain cells they are in, because it is no longer if it works it has worked and we can show that.
VIDEOMAIL


Flexkom have the Videomail system fully operational now as they said I will do an article on that soon for everyone.

BRISTOL ROVERS FC

Thanks to the Efforts of Tony Hodgkins and Adrian Cavill we now have our first British Football Club on board and that is Fantastic and will be the start of many more.

Best Wishes and Success
Ian Driscoll
Independant UK Country Manager

Lots of updates here from Russel Longcore. Some screen captures would be great. LRM:)

Also LRM, what about adding Flexcom with a "c" next to Flexkom in the thread title. Looks like they are trying to change their name.

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Originally Posted by ianthescammer

So the customer goes to the Kobi he gets his cashback on his Mobile the Kobi owner goes into his back office confirms the transaction, creates an invoice follows the link and pays.

Why is it this hard? So not only does the business owner have to pay to give something away, he has to waste even more time to do it. Like my examples with Staples, the cashier swipes the rewards card at their pos cash register and the whole transaction is done as normal. done.

Originally Posted by ianthescammer

FLEXBANK
Yes Flexkom are to be a Bank as part of requirement for our Global system. That gives us massive credibility. The Bank will be in Munich and the good news is that anyone can have a Bank Account with them. So this is moving along.

Why not just use a regular bank? Since when does 'being a bank' create credibility? Will this be in the blind banking network? What about the US suckers affiliates?

Originally Posted by Char

Lots of updates here from Russel Longcore. Some screen captures would be great. LRM:)

Also LRM, what about adding Flexcom with a "c" next to Flexkom in the thread title. Looks like they are trying to change their name.

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They shouldn't get to excited:

Flexcom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://www.flexcom.ch/web/EN/index.html

http://www.flexcomonline.com/

http://www.flexcom.co.ke/

https://www.google.com/search?q=flex...x-a&channel=sb

I certainly don't see how they are going to pull that off. I also don't understand why there are so many companies using that name.

Originally Posted by ianthescammer

Flexkom have now acquired the Business and Domain name of Flexcom.com note with a C not a K.

Kinda odd he neglects to mention any extension. I guess .irrelevant or .scam wouldn't look good in print.

Originally Posted by Char

Flexkom are to be a Bank as part of requirement for our Global system. That gives us massive credibility.

No it doesn't. Quite the reverse. A bank is an incredibly specialist thing to setup. Claiming you're doing this on top of the gold, the phone calls, the hotels, the auto-advertising, etc, makes it even more fairy tale than it was already. Is there any service that FlexKom doesn't claim to offer?

^^^^clarification. That's Ian Driscoll speaking not Char:)